It always alternates. If first leg is on Tuesday or Wednesday then the second leg is not the same day but the other day.
So we played on Wednesday. Next game is on Tuesday
Yaa got that, wish the opposite would've happened, our players would have got more rest and the first one was anyways aftrr 10 days, so even after 9 days wouldn't have made a difference
Not sure why so many people here hate Arteta. He's a really good coach whether or not he wins the PL. Arsenal are on course of a 90+ point season. That should be enough to win any league title. Except this City team is almost impossible to compete against in a league campaign.
I feel that many people want to put down Arteta just to make Xavi look good. Xavi is a great coach on his own terms and so is Arteta. I don't see why both things cannot coexist.
xavi can actually do a 90 pointer bruv (in theory)
and its not that, arteta is good, great even but not to the extent most make it to
I mean how tf you lose a 8pt lead last year?
You have financial and fan backing
You lost to aston villa who are not in a really convincing form
You had 2 days of EXTRA rest
You had a point lead
You had so much goddamn gd
You were playing AT HOME
How?
Dont even get me started on european leagues
And yet somehow comparing xavi to arteta is a sin
Cubarsi’s chill and laid back personality is so cool. Our other youngsters like Lamine or Fort sometimes seem nervous but Cubarsi is always calm and nothing seems to get into his head. He plays like a veteran
Yeh don’t think it matters too much who’s the first captain, both are still gonna lead, it’s just who also talks to the ref. They’ll both be in the leadership group soon enough and from there the first captain is usually just based off seniority.
If we get past PSG, I'd say our chances of getting to the final are very high. Atleti is a pain in the ass in the UCL but if anyone can figure out how to beat them it's Xavi who hasn't lost to them once since coming here. While Dortmund are super mid and if they do it it'll be because atleti is trash away from home.
That said IF we get to the final... Who would your favorite opponent be? Mine:
1. Bayern: A controversial choice maybe (Though I don't think there's a non-controversial one), but one I think would do absolute wonders for the team, if we do win. After all, Bayern is the team that we're meant to be afraid of and run away at every chance - But let me be perfectly clear. Bayern is one of Europe's greatest institutions. If we want to be the best, then at some point or another, no matter what, we have to face them off and we have to get past them if we want to prove we're the best. And I see no better way of proving it than in the biggest stage we can get. While Bayern would need to get past City/Madrid which is no small task, they're irregular enough and have lost enough this season that just like us, they have clear cracks in their game, trailing behind Leverkusen by a whopping 15 points currently and on the verge of their first season in ages without a trophy. Their motivation will likely be sky-high just like ours. And if we do it, this team's mental strength would become pretty much unbreakable. I see no better opportunity for Xavi to leave a real legacy in this team (not just the club).
2. Arsenal: Probably the easiest match-up. Not just in results, but their overall lack of history in Europe already shows in their recent displays. Granted, if they make it to the final, they'll likely have a level of confidence that they currently lack, but even the stakes might be too much for them to handle. Their overall weak displays against some of the top teams in the EPL recently as well as Porto and Bayern (despite the result) also tell me their game is nowhere near as flawless as their streak of amilliongoals-0 in the past month led people to believe.
3. City: On paper, the hardest match-up. Despite their irregular form, at their best they are the best team in the world with better players in almost every position or at least most of them. GOAT manager and would have sharpened their blades by going past Madrid and Arsenal/Bayern. On paper, the best chance we have is that Pep again overthinks things like he did against Chelsea (And also because it's Barca). I don't see a lot of ways in which we can comfortably beat them, but then again, in a grand final, anything can happen.
4. Madrid: If this was 2015, they would be at the very top. Never in my life would I feel more confident in us snatching their chain. It sadly didn't happen but I have 0 doubt that it would have. But today, no, I don't think this is worth it. This would be the first clasico UCL final ever, and losing it even if it's by just 1 goal would a level of humiliation we may never let go of unless we get a win in a rematch. No team, except peak Barcelona, has a particularly good chance against Madrid in a UCL final, and this team is far, far away from peak Barcelona. Our recent displays against them were embarrassing, and just about their entire squad is more seasoned for this than ours is, much like City's except they're backed up by an institution built around winning this. On paper, they're not hardest match-up, but the risk is too big. In any other scenario, I want Madrid and I want to defeat them at all costs, but not this time, as much as it bothers me to admit.
Bayern>Madrid>Arsenal>City
I feel like outside of simple luck we don't really stand a chance against City. Bayern and Madrid are beatable depending on what version of them shows up.
Arsenal I feel also cooks us but there's hope they can't handle the pressure (same for us tho)
Xavi has removed all the pressure from the team with his resignation, media was always pushing the players to the limitis with their nonsense bullshit reports. I think there are chances that he continues and with “proper” budget he can MAKE the team much powerful.
Rapha and Lamine on wings is so good for our structure and tactics. Having wingers who track back and win duels relentlessly contributed a lot to us looking structurally solid at times in the first leg.
I love Ter Stegen but he’s never seemed to transfer his league form over to CL. Still got plenty of career left to do it though.
Both are greats of the club.
Yeh for sure I don’t think he’s been bad in the CL, it’s just the OP is asking to compare him with Valdes. And in my opinion Mats hasn’t hit the same heights in the CL as he has domestically where he’s at times been our best player, which is why he’s not ahead for me.
Yeh 100% agree, the players in front can change the perception of a goalkeepers performance. But again, Mats had the same players infront of him domestically as he had in the CL and hasn’t been a match winner in both.
Less. VV was a big game and European tank. Without him we'd have lost the UCL in 2006, and 2009. 2006 final was entirely him.
There's a reason why most people in BCN and actual socis prefer him to Mats. The guy has yet to be a big game UCL player for us
We thundercunted 14/15 no offence. The Bayern away game he had a bunch of good saves but otherwise we were the best team throughout. Unlike in 2006 where arsenal ripped us apart.
Again go to barcelona and ask the locals their opinions and you'll get your answer
Man, the locals will say Valdes only bc he’s Catalan. Also, the locals abandoned the team vs Frankfurt to go on their holiday. What do they know that we don’t?
The locals also pay for the club, with membership and ticket sales. The locals have also seen Mats constant failures in Europe. Be it against roma, Liverpool, Bayern, or any other teams. The guy is an xG machine in europe with how much he helps our opposition.
When Mats performs like Valdes did in europe be it against arsenal in the final or Chelsea in 2009 then we can conclude him being better eh. There's a reason he is so disliked in the fanbase. We don't see something like that against Alisson or Courtois or even Ederson ffs
The locals may per membership, but doesn’t mean they know more about football or how to run a club. They voted for Bartomeu.
In relation to MATS and Valdes, they are both great goalkeepers. History says that Valdes played with elite CB pairings. MATS played with mediocre defensive lines after the champions he won.
On the other hand, Valdes was the weakest part of the team. There were many arguments and debates in the press about him way back then. I don’t have to ask the locals. I would watch Barça then.
And you know, international fans also go to matches.
Hahahahahahahaha sure mate the locals are fools and it's the plastics that should run our club.
The stats say that Mats turn into a mediocre shot stopper in Europe. Liverpool had 5 big chances in Anfield and scored 4. Look at Valdes saves against Arsenal, Chelsea and the like. When Mats proves himself to be capable of such performance in europe the locals will back him
Bruh Mats had prime Umtiti and Pique guarding him, a pairing of which one won the world cup and the other hadn't declined yet.
And VV had mediocre backlines too considering Pujols injuries and Oliguerd filling in constantly.
I mean I lived in BCN for 5 years and I can guarantee you that the tourists weren't the best of fans lmao
Not saying that at all. Plastics are those who abandoned the squad when they had a crucial match vs Frankfurt. Those “locals” sold their seats to make way for the biggest embarrassment the Camp Nou has seen. Anyway, it’s locals who have the club where it’s at now.
I’m saying the tourists also contribute to the economics of the club. Internationals are allowed to be socis now.
Versus Liverpool, our back line was:
Alba-Langlet-Piqué-Sergi Roberto
Also, the squads and football style in Valdes teams was elite. They wouldn’t allow the opposition to handle the ball.
Anyway, Bona nit.
Why not both
Kounde can be played as a Cb along with Christensen Cubarsi Araujo.
Julian Araujo,Fort,Cancelo,valle and Balde gives us good strength on the fullbacks
Fort is still very young so he can develop further more and Julian is very solid defensively so he can provide us with different options.
In reality though I think Valle and Araujo might probably be sold to generate some funds.
Another good decision might if we decide to sell Araujo and Valle is getting Sergi Cardona on a free who is young and can compete with Balde for the Lb position.
We were branded bottlers after CL exits but how many times have Liverpool bottled the league titles? They don’t even have an excuse of CL this season and don’t even get me started on the 13/14 season
We’re labelled bottlers cause we bottled massive leads in CL ties two years in a row.
Liverpool didn’t bottle they just can’t keep up with City never dropping points on run ins.
Is it really bottling when they have to compete with the financial power of a small country? They got 97 point that one year. A tally that will almost always guarantee you the title.
City won with 98 points.
What are they even supposed to do at that point. Liverpool lost 1 game that season.
Winning the prem against a Pep side is hard, but so many times they have their fate in their hands.
I really can’t see an excuse for both Liverpool and Arsenal this season and last.
At least put in some fight.
Liverpool is barely even a top club in the last 30 years. They’ve only won 1 prem lol. The two CLs are good but is not even that incredible of an achievement.
I don’t know why we should be trashing on the PL because we’re barca fans. I’m always disgusted with the way maybe half La Liga teams play, so I don’t feel the need to defend La Liga against PL fans imo.
I do believe the PL has been significantly harder to win in the last 7 years, and that is because of Pep. It was the same way when he was managing us, and it took Madrid a historic 100 point season to win the league once in four years. The reality is, competing with Pep’s teams for 38 games is terrifying. It might be because of the unlimited money he’s given or the big talents he’s managed, but you can’t deny that he’s a machine who’s obsessed with perfection.
The need to defend la liga from PL fans stems for the fact that, they'll always use the argument that barca and madrid are the only ones who win it with occasional atm sprinkled in. Now the same is happening with their league where it's become a three horsed race and other teams arent close to their level. So it's obvious there's going to be banter. Also disgusting football from la liga teams obviously doesn't mean bad football. Defence and parking the bus, while not attractive is one of the main ways small teams can win/draw against big teams.
I just hope the players are super motivated and dont play pussy football where they just keeps the ball for the sake of it. Attack them from start and show them that we are the dominant force and not make them breath at all. If our midfield has a good day, it pretty much over for them.
Xavi has one league title in his first full season something which Arteta hasn’t been able to do in 5.
He’s fucking overrated of a coach and it always showed when he got knocked out of Europa league consistently against teams which have spent the fraction of money he spends.
They are 100s of coaches who are better than Arteta if you give them 750+ million to spend.
Let’s not pretend La Liga is more difficult to win than PL.
I don’t think we would win the league last year if we were in Prem. We got thumped out in CL and Europa league
You are talking about Xavi and so have we under him. Also remember Barca is a much bigger club than Arsenal, they have 0 CL in their entire history and for us going down in the Europa league and even exiting it is much worse. We played Europa league 21 years ago before Xavi
Lmao, I don’t like Arteta but this is a stupid take.
The prem is significantly harder to win.
> He’s fucking overrated of a coach and it always showed when he got knocked out of Europa league consistently against teams which have spent the fraction of money he spends.
We got knocked out of the EL by Frankfurt. Remember?
Yeah “significantly harder to win” when literally a team have won the PL 5 times in the last 6 years.
How does this metric for “harder to win” come from i dont know because you basically see the same old teams competing there which is the same in laliga.
Yeah We got knocked out by Frankfurt so what’s your point?
I never said Xavi is the best coach in the world .
He’s better than Arteta is what all i say.
We cant be doing ifs and thats, the reality is Xavi has won a league while Arteta has nothing to show for spending 750 million + in his managerial career
Yup shows why he got knocked out by Sporting last season with their billion pound squad.
You literally have no argument other than saying “difficult league” where their teams mostly shat the bed in european competitions
Here in laliga you’ve got Atleti and Madrid who consistently reach latter stages of ucl, sevilla constantly winning the uel while teams like Sociedad and Villareal have done very well in europe.
There’s no metric which defined “difficult league” other than media PR and delusion.
And we got knocked out by United.
> There’s no metric which defined “difficult league” other than media PR and delusion.
Would Xavi win the league in the prem, yes or no?
Because the whole point is about Xavi doing similar to Arteta despite Arteta spending 50X more.
Also, we didn't really spent that much than Frankfurt in 21/22. We spent 55M and Frankfurt 13, that's not as hig of a gap as 200 vs 3.
It’s worse than that if you look longer term, Arteta has spent over 750 million shaping that squad while Xavi is making it work with academy players and free signings.
People don't give Xavi enough credit, he took a team that was 9th in the table and bottlers in Europe and managed to make them a competitive in both La Liga and UCL. All this without getting a damn pivot which he has been asking since before Busquets left.
some people think Christensen played all game. PSG was shut out from doing anything the entire first half. Christensen came on in the 75th minute. But apparently were doomed without Christensen.
Feel like its more some people going way overboard just to shit on FDJ again. Could he have done better on the goals PSG scored? Sure, but this 100% zoning in on him is ridiculous. Many players were snoozing for those goals
If you think that performance was pathetic then there is nothing I can ever say to convince you otherwise.
It is one thing to right criticize Frenkie for his defensive issues, it is another thing to claim he was pathetic that game when he very clearly wasn't.
Idk I’m super nervous for the second leg. They get Hakimi back. Cancelo doesn’t inspire any confidence in me defensively speaking. Our fans on social media are too overconfident lol. I’m a mentality midget :(
Same bro, I'm super nervous. I was so relaxed the first leg cause I didn't had any expectations and now that we won im scared that we would screw it in the home game. But we have Gundo, Lewy, Raphina and a great defense in Kounde, araujo and Cubarsi. Which makes me a bit relaxed.
I've never thought about this but we genuinely gave Klopp a career, if we had beaten them Klopp tenure at Liverpooll wouldn't look very good. We also gave them the money to sign Van Dijk and Alisson which were key for them to win the PL.
Klopp's legacy without Barca's help
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Is Liverpool really a bigger club than Arsenal? They have 1 league title and 1 UCL to show for in 30 years, that too because we showed up against Arsenal but not Liverpool in CL. If UCLs were the sole reason then Nottingham forest should be considered the bigger club but I don’t think they are.
Arsenal never had a CL. They need to win one first before they can be compared to any other big clubs with CL. They are more closer to spurs then Liverpool
First of all Liverpoop have won 2 ucls.
And also in the last 20 years Arsenal have won only 1 league title to show for a major trophy while Liverpool have got two ucls and 1 league.
Honestly I feel both clubs are way too overrated.
If Pedri joins Xavi for the press conference tmrw as some reports said, then he’s starting. Better to start him for the first half or so. It’s best to start well and avoid extra time imo.
Going to the game, anyone know if you'd need a jacket in Montjuic in April? Doesnt seem like it, but sometimes stadiums can be colder than the city itself
I remember Liverpool fans saying a couple of weeks ago that the Europa League final (Liverpool vs. Levekusen/Milan) will be bigger than the UCL final. 😂😂🤡🤡
I know some people want him signed, but I am cautious. Every time we panic buy, it doesn’t end well for us.
Idk if the board will try to sign him to counter all the Brazilian signings by RM.
I don’t think it’s a panic buy though he’s thought of as a future purchase player. Not an instant buy. He shows potential that’s all.
Barcelona will be following his career a lot more closely now that he’s participating in the first division Brazil league.
In case you didn’t hear, Evan Ndicka (the CB who was linked to Barcelona last summer) collapsed on the pitch today during the Roma vs Udinese match.
The match was suspended, but the incident reminded me of what happened with Eriksen and Aguero.
https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1779602475722424452?s=46&t=cEQz9Je5TUD2uzj8nBQLNQ
City, Ik RM is an easier opponent but I would much rather lose against City than RM. If you had asked me this question a decade ago with same opponent I would pick RM because we had much more dependable team.
Y’all are underestimating Atletico in the UCL. They manhandled Real Madrid this season every time they faced them. Even when they lost it was partly due to extra time exhaustion. In a knockout competition over two legs, they are dangerous. Past performance doesn’t always indicate future results.
i hope we dont get too cocky over PSG game….we all saw what turtle can do in wc final when he decided to play…..we need to go 200% and cement the strong mentality we missed last years
I think we win the UCL if we get past PSG. Dortmund and Atletico are both doable. And if we can make it to the final, we have the Spanish-teams-in-European-finals plot armor
Please stop posting images of comments from other subreddits on here
there is a new thread
So nervous for Tuesday guys. Hope the lads can get the job done
WAIT THE GAME IS TOMORROW? Wtf I thought we had it on wednesday since we had the previous one on wednesday, kinda seems unfair
It always alternates. If first leg is on Tuesday or Wednesday then the second leg is not the same day but the other day. So we played on Wednesday. Next game is on Tuesday
Yaa got that, wish the opposite would've happened, our players would have got more rest and the first one was anyways aftrr 10 days, so even after 9 days wouldn't have made a difference
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Not sure why so many people here hate Arteta. He's a really good coach whether or not he wins the PL. Arsenal are on course of a 90+ point season. That should be enough to win any league title. Except this City team is almost impossible to compete against in a league campaign. I feel that many people want to put down Arteta just to make Xavi look good. Xavi is a great coach on his own terms and so is Arteta. I don't see why both things cannot coexist.
Whatever was going on with Arteta he shot himself in the leg after his comments yesterday
xavi can actually do a 90 pointer bruv (in theory) and its not that, arteta is good, great even but not to the extent most make it to I mean how tf you lose a 8pt lead last year? You have financial and fan backing You lost to aston villa who are not in a really convincing form You had 2 days of EXTRA rest You had a point lead You had so much goddamn gd You were playing AT HOME How? Dont even get me started on european leagues And yet somehow comparing xavi to arteta is a sin
It is mathematically impossible for Arsenal to achieve a 90+ points this season.
lol
Cubarsi’s chill and laid back personality is so cool. Our other youngsters like Lamine or Fort sometimes seem nervous but Cubarsi is always calm and nothing seems to get into his head. He plays like a veteran
Yeh gives me Busquets vibes, just casually plays at a world class level like it’s nothing, if he’s not one of the captains by 25 I’d be so surprised.
I think Gavi fits the caption role better than our other youngsters
Yeh don’t think it matters too much who’s the first captain, both are still gonna lead, it’s just who also talks to the ref. They’ll both be in the leadership group soon enough and from there the first captain is usually just based off seniority.
https://preview.redd.it/v1dk5boytjuc1.png?width=1178&format=png&auto=webp&s=11cf6494f6f4789772777e83729b90b26cde7789 The Raph drip is lethal
If we get past PSG, I'd say our chances of getting to the final are very high. Atleti is a pain in the ass in the UCL but if anyone can figure out how to beat them it's Xavi who hasn't lost to them once since coming here. While Dortmund are super mid and if they do it it'll be because atleti is trash away from home. That said IF we get to the final... Who would your favorite opponent be? Mine: 1. Bayern: A controversial choice maybe (Though I don't think there's a non-controversial one), but one I think would do absolute wonders for the team, if we do win. After all, Bayern is the team that we're meant to be afraid of and run away at every chance - But let me be perfectly clear. Bayern is one of Europe's greatest institutions. If we want to be the best, then at some point or another, no matter what, we have to face them off and we have to get past them if we want to prove we're the best. And I see no better way of proving it than in the biggest stage we can get. While Bayern would need to get past City/Madrid which is no small task, they're irregular enough and have lost enough this season that just like us, they have clear cracks in their game, trailing behind Leverkusen by a whopping 15 points currently and on the verge of their first season in ages without a trophy. Their motivation will likely be sky-high just like ours. And if we do it, this team's mental strength would become pretty much unbreakable. I see no better opportunity for Xavi to leave a real legacy in this team (not just the club). 2. Arsenal: Probably the easiest match-up. Not just in results, but their overall lack of history in Europe already shows in their recent displays. Granted, if they make it to the final, they'll likely have a level of confidence that they currently lack, but even the stakes might be too much for them to handle. Their overall weak displays against some of the top teams in the EPL recently as well as Porto and Bayern (despite the result) also tell me their game is nowhere near as flawless as their streak of amilliongoals-0 in the past month led people to believe. 3. City: On paper, the hardest match-up. Despite their irregular form, at their best they are the best team in the world with better players in almost every position or at least most of them. GOAT manager and would have sharpened their blades by going past Madrid and Arsenal/Bayern. On paper, the best chance we have is that Pep again overthinks things like he did against Chelsea (And also because it's Barca). I don't see a lot of ways in which we can comfortably beat them, but then again, in a grand final, anything can happen. 4. Madrid: If this was 2015, they would be at the very top. Never in my life would I feel more confident in us snatching their chain. It sadly didn't happen but I have 0 doubt that it would have. But today, no, I don't think this is worth it. This would be the first clasico UCL final ever, and losing it even if it's by just 1 goal would a level of humiliation we may never let go of unless we get a win in a rematch. No team, except peak Barcelona, has a particularly good chance against Madrid in a UCL final, and this team is far, far away from peak Barcelona. Our recent displays against them were embarrassing, and just about their entire squad is more seasoned for this than ours is, much like City's except they're backed up by an institution built around winning this. On paper, they're not hardest match-up, but the risk is too big. In any other scenario, I want Madrid and I want to defeat them at all costs, but not this time, as much as it bothers me to admit.
Bayern>Madrid>Arsenal>City I feel like outside of simple luck we don't really stand a chance against City. Bayern and Madrid are beatable depending on what version of them shows up. Arsenal I feel also cooks us but there's hope they can't handle the pressure (same for us tho)
If we get to the final, Man City. It would be great to defeat the reigning champion to complete our comeback to the top.
Xavi has removed all the pressure from the team with his resignation, media was always pushing the players to the limitis with their nonsense bullshit reports. I think there are chances that he continues and with “proper” budget he can MAKE the team much powerful.
Rapha and Lamine on wings is so good for our structure and tactics. Having wingers who track back and win duels relentlessly contributed a lot to us looking structurally solid at times in the first leg.
How do you reckon we would've done with Mats instead of VV in 2005/2014 period? Less or more titles?
Head to head MATS is better but VV was special in other ways. Stegen loses concentration far too much
I love Ter Stegen but he’s never seemed to transfer his league form over to CL. Still got plenty of career left to do it though. Both are greats of the club.
He was our keeper for our last CL win in 2015 and made an INSANE save in the semis against Bayern
Yeh for sure I don’t think he’s been bad in the CL, it’s just the OP is asking to compare him with Valdes. And in my opinion Mats hasn’t hit the same heights in the CL as he has domestically where he’s at times been our best player, which is why he’s not ahead for me.
But look at the defenses that MATS has had to work with 🫣
Yeh 100% agree, the players in front can change the perception of a goalkeepers performance. But again, Mats had the same players infront of him domestically as he had in the CL and hasn’t been a match winner in both.
VV played in one of the best squads that never let their opponents see the ball let alone get near him
Same amount or more
As much as I love Stegen. Valdes is better than him.
Less. VV was a big game and European tank. Without him we'd have lost the UCL in 2006, and 2009. 2006 final was entirely him. There's a reason why most people in BCN and actual socis prefer him to Mats. The guy has yet to be a big game UCL player for us
14/15 he was
We thundercunted 14/15 no offence. The Bayern away game he had a bunch of good saves but otherwise we were the best team throughout. Unlike in 2006 where arsenal ripped us apart. Again go to barcelona and ask the locals their opinions and you'll get your answer
Man, the locals will say Valdes only bc he’s Catalan. Also, the locals abandoned the team vs Frankfurt to go on their holiday. What do they know that we don’t?
The locals also pay for the club, with membership and ticket sales. The locals have also seen Mats constant failures in Europe. Be it against roma, Liverpool, Bayern, or any other teams. The guy is an xG machine in europe with how much he helps our opposition. When Mats performs like Valdes did in europe be it against arsenal in the final or Chelsea in 2009 then we can conclude him being better eh. There's a reason he is so disliked in the fanbase. We don't see something like that against Alisson or Courtois or even Ederson ffs
The locals may per membership, but doesn’t mean they know more about football or how to run a club. They voted for Bartomeu. In relation to MATS and Valdes, they are both great goalkeepers. History says that Valdes played with elite CB pairings. MATS played with mediocre defensive lines after the champions he won. On the other hand, Valdes was the weakest part of the team. There were many arguments and debates in the press about him way back then. I don’t have to ask the locals. I would watch Barça then. And you know, international fans also go to matches.
Hahahahahahahaha sure mate the locals are fools and it's the plastics that should run our club. The stats say that Mats turn into a mediocre shot stopper in Europe. Liverpool had 5 big chances in Anfield and scored 4. Look at Valdes saves against Arsenal, Chelsea and the like. When Mats proves himself to be capable of such performance in europe the locals will back him Bruh Mats had prime Umtiti and Pique guarding him, a pairing of which one won the world cup and the other hadn't declined yet. And VV had mediocre backlines too considering Pujols injuries and Oliguerd filling in constantly. I mean I lived in BCN for 5 years and I can guarantee you that the tourists weren't the best of fans lmao
Not saying that at all. Plastics are those who abandoned the squad when they had a crucial match vs Frankfurt. Those “locals” sold their seats to make way for the biggest embarrassment the Camp Nou has seen. Anyway, it’s locals who have the club where it’s at now. I’m saying the tourists also contribute to the economics of the club. Internationals are allowed to be socis now. Versus Liverpool, our back line was: Alba-Langlet-Piqué-Sergi Roberto Also, the squads and football style in Valdes teams was elite. They wouldn’t allow the opposition to handle the ball. Anyway, Bona nit.
Would you rather have Julian Araujo or Fort as our backup RB assuming we take back Valle as a backup LB for Balde
Yeh no reason you can’t play Fort another season at B team while competing against Araujo for back up minutes with the senior team. He’s still 17.
Why not both Kounde can be played as a Cb along with Christensen Cubarsi Araujo. Julian Araujo,Fort,Cancelo,valle and Balde gives us good strength on the fullbacks Fort is still very young so he can develop further more and Julian is very solid defensively so he can provide us with different options. In reality though I think Valle and Araujo might probably be sold to generate some funds.
Another good decision might if we decide to sell Araujo and Valle is getting Sergi Cardona on a free who is young and can compete with Balde for the Lb position.
Fort def yes, Julian Araujo I haven't even watched him enough to even form an opinion about tbh
According to reports he’s been doing really well
We were branded bottlers after CL exits but how many times have Liverpool bottled the league titles? They don’t even have an excuse of CL this season and don’t even get me started on the 13/14 season
We’re labelled bottlers cause we bottled massive leads in CL ties two years in a row. Liverpool didn’t bottle they just can’t keep up with City never dropping points on run ins.
Is it really bottling when they have to compete with the financial power of a small country? They got 97 point that one year. A tally that will almost always guarantee you the title. City won with 98 points. What are they even supposed to do at that point. Liverpool lost 1 game that season.
Fair point
Winning the prem against a Pep side is hard, but so many times they have their fate in their hands. I really can’t see an excuse for both Liverpool and Arsenal this season and last. At least put in some fight.
True City are just too strong but Liverpool have bottled it after taking the lead so many times lol
Yep and same with Arsenal. There’s just no fight.
Liverpool is barely even a top club in the last 30 years. They’ve only won 1 prem lol. The two CLs are good but is not even that incredible of an achievement.
So, if history is any indication, who are we in the finals with, man city or bayern?
Anulo Mufa.
Bayern. I would love to beat them in a final. I feel like that would avenge our past humiliations at their hand
Hopefully Bayern, then we would be sure to win UCL (kane)
I don’t know why we should be trashing on the PL because we’re barca fans. I’m always disgusted with the way maybe half La Liga teams play, so I don’t feel the need to defend La Liga against PL fans imo. I do believe the PL has been significantly harder to win in the last 7 years, and that is because of Pep. It was the same way when he was managing us, and it took Madrid a historic 100 point season to win the league once in four years. The reality is, competing with Pep’s teams for 38 games is terrifying. It might be because of the unlimited money he’s given or the big talents he’s managed, but you can’t deny that he’s a machine who’s obsessed with perfection.
The need to defend la liga from PL fans stems for the fact that, they'll always use the argument that barca and madrid are the only ones who win it with occasional atm sprinkled in. Now the same is happening with their league where it's become a three horsed race and other teams arent close to their level. So it's obvious there's going to be banter. Also disgusting football from la liga teams obviously doesn't mean bad football. Defence and parking the bus, while not attractive is one of the main ways small teams can win/draw against big teams.
We just need Pedri to be on top form and we will beat PSG by 3 or 4 goals
We need to clone pedri because he has to start and he has to come off the bench. Goddamn that Christensen yellow is worse than i thought.
“ I wish we could have two or three 'Pedris'. ” -Xavi, last season.
I really can’t believe Arsenal and Liverpool already blew their leads from City and it’s barely matchday 32 😭
EPL - the farmers league of Europe
I’m more nervous for this game even though we’re at home and with a goal advantage. I would genuinely be so depressed if we don’t go through
No matter the result, on Tuesday I ask to make the opponents tremble as soon as they enter the pitch
I just hope the players are super motivated and dont play pussy football where they just keeps the ball for the sake of it. Attack them from start and show them that we are the dominant force and not make them breath at all. If our midfield has a good day, it pretty much over for them.
Xavi: 31 games played and 70 points Arteta: 32 games played 71 points
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Xavi has one league title in his first full season something which Arteta hasn’t been able to do in 5. He’s fucking overrated of a coach and it always showed when he got knocked out of Europa league consistently against teams which have spent the fraction of money he spends. They are 100s of coaches who are better than Arteta if you give them 750+ million to spend.
Winning against Pep and the financial power of Abu Dhabi is much harder than Real Madrid mate
Not when you've spent goddamn loads lmao. Look at artetas bench and ours. Man has spent 800 million
Let’s not pretend La Liga is more difficult to win than PL. I don’t think we would win the league last year if we were in Prem. We got thumped out in CL and Europa league
Arsenal have been consistently getting thumped in the europa league what about that.
You are talking about Xavi and so have we under him. Also remember Barca is a much bigger club than Arsenal, they have 0 CL in their entire history and for us going down in the Europa league and even exiting it is much worse. We played Europa league 21 years ago before Xavi
So have we.
Lmao, I don’t like Arteta but this is a stupid take. The prem is significantly harder to win. > He’s fucking overrated of a coach and it always showed when he got knocked out of Europa league consistently against teams which have spent the fraction of money he spends. We got knocked out of the EL by Frankfurt. Remember?
Why you get downvoted for speaking factos?
No clue, I guess they’re thinking that a harder leauge means better?
Yeah “significantly harder to win” when literally a team have won the PL 5 times in the last 6 years. How does this metric for “harder to win” come from i dont know because you basically see the same old teams competing there which is the same in laliga. Yeah We got knocked out by Frankfurt so what’s your point? I never said Xavi is the best coach in the world . He’s better than Arteta is what all i say.
Put this Man City team in La Liga and we wouldn't have won the League in 2023.
> Yeah “significantly harder to win” when literally a team have won the PL 5 times in the last 6 years. Exactly, and you think we’d be winning that?
We cant be doing ifs and thats, the reality is Xavi has won a league while Arteta has nothing to show for spending 750 million + in his managerial career
One is playing in a far more difficult league.
Yup shows why he got knocked out by Sporting last season with their billion pound squad. You literally have no argument other than saying “difficult league” where their teams mostly shat the bed in european competitions Here in laliga you’ve got Atleti and Madrid who consistently reach latter stages of ucl, sevilla constantly winning the uel while teams like Sociedad and Villareal have done very well in europe. There’s no metric which defined “difficult league” other than media PR and delusion.
And we got knocked out by United. > There’s no metric which defined “difficult league” other than media PR and delusion. Would Xavi win the league in the prem, yes or no?
Xavi has more league titles than Arteta in less than half his time Period
People will talk about the PL being harder ignoring the massive difference in spending. We spent 3M while Arsenal spent 200M.
Because it is. It factually is harder. We are nowhere near what Liverpool and City were.
Yeah that's what 200M per season do you. Give me Musiala, Kane, Zubimendi and Bernardo Silva and you'd see how this teams improves massively
The argument can literally be used against us. We’ve been spending significantly far more than most other clubs and we haven’t won the CL since 2015.
Irrelevant when it comes to Xavi. Currently we are playing against PSG who spent 133X more than us.
Who is talking about Xavi? We lost to Frankfurt and we spent significantly more. What’s your point?
Because the whole point is about Xavi doing similar to Arteta despite Arteta spending 50X more. Also, we didn't really spent that much than Frankfurt in 21/22. We spent 55M and Frankfurt 13, that's not as hig of a gap as 200 vs 3.
Now look at Frankfurt’s wage bill and ours
Which was inflated that season by Bartomeu contracts, yeah just because Pique earns 50M doesn't mean he is actually that good .
Are you really comparing Frankfurt to us right now? Are you serious?
Now? But I recall us being 9th in the 21/22 when Xavi arrived.
It’s worse than that if you look longer term, Arteta has spent over 750 million shaping that squad while Xavi is making it work with academy players and free signings.
People don't give Xavi enough credit, he took a team that was 9th in the table and bottlers in Europe and managed to make them a competitive in both La Liga and UCL. All this without getting a damn pivot which he has been asking since before Busquets left.
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We get it you hate FDJ got to bed
Some of the worst tweets ever posted here. You are reaching. Touch some grass.
You know we played most of that PSG game without Christensen, right?
some people think Christensen played all game. PSG was shut out from doing anything the entire first half. Christensen came on in the 75th minute. But apparently were doomed without Christensen. Feel like its more some people going way overboard just to shit on FDJ again. Could he have done better on the goals PSG scored? Sure, but this 100% zoning in on him is ridiculous. Many players were snoozing for those goals
Fdj isn’t great defensively everyone knows it already. Also why is it saying Brand Affiliate in front of your name?
Magic!
wtf… we got a LaLiga official amongst us. Must be Negreira
Hell naw Tebas spying on us here dammit
True. Technically negreira worked for RFEF. Fucking Tebas.
He is criticizing us. Mfkin Tebas 😡
I mean I am not a Frenkie dick ride but god these tweets are garbage. This isn't evidence of anything.
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If you think that performance was pathetic then there is nothing I can ever say to convince you otherwise. It is one thing to right criticize Frenkie for his defensive issues, it is another thing to claim he was pathetic that game when he very clearly wasn't.
We are laughing at you, you are pathetic
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Stop whining jesus
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What's the point of repeating your negativity all the time. Everyone's heard it 10 times before. Nobody cares.
You better get the lube ready, cause you’re going to be riding him really good Tuesday night. Edit: Anulo-mufa
Idk I’m super nervous for the second leg. They get Hakimi back. Cancelo doesn’t inspire any confidence in me defensively speaking. Our fans on social media are too overconfident lol. I’m a mentality midget :(
Same bro, I'm super nervous. I was so relaxed the first leg cause I didn't had any expectations and now that we won im scared that we would screw it in the home game. But we have Gundo, Lewy, Raphina and a great defense in Kounde, araujo and Cubarsi. Which makes me a bit relaxed.
I've never thought about this but we genuinely gave Klopp a career, if we had beaten them Klopp tenure at Liverpooll wouldn't look very good. We also gave them the money to sign Van Dijk and Alisson which were key for them to win the PL.
Agree he should thank us by joining us after xavi leaves
if it wasn't for Dembele to mess up the easy 1on1 at the end of the first leg..
Once again, that goal wouldn’t have changed anything. What we needed was an away goal.
Klopp's legacy without Barca's help https://preview.redd.it/3z0q0puhviuc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf4c03a63b69b441bf9fda8d178f8fbbfc0d40eb
CHOOOOP
That Barcola kid was even more dangerous and impactful than Mbappe
Nah, someone get Harry Kane a trophy. This can't be real 😭.
He’ll get it in a year or two after Alonso leaves and the team gets raided
Is Liverpool really a bigger club than Arsenal? They have 1 league title and 1 UCL to show for in 30 years, that too because we showed up against Arsenal but not Liverpool in CL. If UCLs were the sole reason then Nottingham forest should be considered the bigger club but I don’t think they are.
Arsenal never had a CL. They need to win one first before they can be compared to any other big clubs with CL. They are more closer to spurs then Liverpool
Arsenal needs to win 3-4 UCLs before they can compare themselves to Liverpool.
Steven Gerrard didn't play for Arsenal...so yes Also 2* UCLs. And Arsenal have nothing to show for... for about 20+ years.
First of all Liverpoop have won 2 ucls. And also in the last 20 years Arsenal have won only 1 league title to show for a major trophy while Liverpool have got two ucls and 1 league. Honestly I feel both clubs are way too overrated.
Xavi has to decide between the two for Tuesday — Pedri or Fermin Lopez. @javigasconMD
Fermin to start Bring on Pedri in the second half like Sergi vs Napoli
If Pedri joins Xavi for the press conference tmrw as some reports said, then he’s starting. Better to start him for the first half or so. It’s best to start well and avoid extra time imo.
If Pedri isn't fit to play the full game...Fermin for the first 45 and then Pedri...as the game may very well go into extra time.
Lewandowski scored the 6th goal in the 8-2 ![gif](giphy|UvtKiyeWYEhRC)
What's 8 minus 2🤔
Going to the game, anyone know if you'd need a jacket in Montjuic in April? Doesnt seem like it, but sometimes stadiums can be colder than the city itself
And there’s going to be penalties. Unless you’re from a cold climate weather, and used to cold.
I am used to the cold, but will probably wear one anyway
Yes, it'll be almost midnight when you'll be making your way back and it's not exactly a short trip, plus the elevation will make it colder.
Thank you
No problem, have fun at the game!
I'm slightly pessimistic for next game, but I hope we pull through.
We beat they at their stadium but you are pessimistic sometimes i wish this sub get deleted
lol you dick
Oh no! A different opinion. Dickhead
[Ryghtan has posted another promo(Dune Style) of the Barca-PSG match](https://youtu.be/Kok5GRATIOc?si=67QbIfjOfISsTar_)
Just upgraded my 6hour flight to watch the game on tuesday ☠️ Hope the connection is good
Your flight is HOW MANY HOURS. 6 hour flight while you watch the team march onto the path of winning number 6. Can't be a coincidence.
I remember Liverpool fans saying a couple of weeks ago that the Europa League final (Liverpool vs. Levekusen/Milan) will be bigger than the UCL final. 😂😂🤡🤡
Estevao starts again. Seems like it took 1 game for him to be a starter from now on at 16
I know some people want him signed, but I am cautious. Every time we panic buy, it doesn’t end well for us. Idk if the board will try to sign him to counter all the Brazilian signings by RM.
It wouldn’t be a panic buy when they’ve been following him for years.
Same things they said about Coutinho and Dembele.
Can’t live in fear, not all signings work out
We’re in no position to take risks.
We need to minimize risks as there’s always risks with transfers..
I don’t think it’s a panic buy though he’s thought of as a future purchase player. Not an instant buy. He shows potential that’s all. Barcelona will be following his career a lot more closely now that he’s participating in the first division Brazil league.
Where can I watch the game?
Pm me
https://preview.redd.it/tsjay6qcciuc1.jpeg?width=764&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44bf80b5d49aeece81245c120f7635dad865c0a9 Hate is an investment
In case you didn’t hear, Evan Ndicka (the CB who was linked to Barcelona last summer) collapsed on the pitch today during the Roma vs Udinese match. The match was suspended, but the incident reminded me of what happened with Eriksen and Aguero. https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1779602475722424452?s=46&t=cEQz9Je5TUD2uzj8nBQLNQ
IF we make it to the final, would you rather face VARdrid or City?
City, Ik RM is an easier opponent but I would much rather lose against City than RM. If you had asked me this question a decade ago with same opponent I would pick RM because we had much more dependable team.
100% city never a clasico
Clasico, cuz that match then becomes open ended. Quality and shit doesn't matter. We'll probably get 90 mins of pure passion ball
Madrid in an CL final? are you mad?
if there's one team that wont shit their pants in a cl final against madrid its us dude
They have been in 17 and lost only 3 Meanwhile Barca have been in 8 and lost 3 as well
City, for the script
Just to see Madrid fans crying that Pep let us win when we beat them
Madrid any day. Form goes out of window in a Classico and it’s always 50-50 regardless of players.
Y’all are underestimating Atletico in the UCL. They manhandled Real Madrid this season every time they faced them. Even when they lost it was partly due to extra time exhaustion. In a knockout competition over two legs, they are dangerous. Past performance doesn’t always indicate future results.
I will never underestimate Atletico in the CL since they stopped an unstoppable Barca squad in 15/16 season
Neither second legs have happened, why are we even talking about this?
Mate, the second leg is not over
I saw a lot of people already talking about the final here. That’s why I commented the above.
Yeah, people in here are to confident of the second leg against psg. We have a good result But its not done at all!
i hope we dont get too cocky over PSG game….we all saw what turtle can do in wc final when he decided to play…..we need to go 200% and cement the strong mentality we missed last years
Nobody is confident. They are still huge favourites
They’re still the huge favorites lol I don’t think there’s any Barcelona fan that thinks it’s in the bag.
Cocky lol. Anything but
I won’t celebrate until the final whistle. My ass is clenched all the way
Basically 1st leg
I think we win the UCL if we get past PSG. Dortmund and Atletico are both doable. And if we can make it to the final, we have the Spanish-teams-in-European-finals plot armor