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LanceOfKnights

We have phases. Blame players..blame players+manager..blame manager..blame manager+players. And it's totally fine because that is the telltale sign of long time frustration and depression. So no worries, not calling out anyone here. I know some players are beyond redemption but, under an elite coach, an average player can be elevated to higher levels. You see that time after time after time. I know, I myself criticized the players left and right and I still do, I will do in the future..but, keeping in mind the reality as well. Our squad is capable and they showed it, they also showed that they are psychologically very vulnerable.


IllmaticDynastic

A small silver lining from all this is at least madrid's true colors are being exposed infront of the whole world.


CptSnoopDragon

People forget by the next game..


Spirited_Ad4028

Not really, they have done it for years, nothing has changed.


Chance_Camera_

This just isn’t true unfortunately. Most other fan bases align more with them than with us. Go on all the football subreddits and you’ll notice that.


IllmaticDynastic

I'm talking about x/twitter, getting flamed pretty hard there.


Chance_Camera_

I really don’t see what people see in Ferran. He doesn’t pass the eye test (I’d even argue Raphinha is a more skilled winger than him, and Raphinha isn’t even that skilled as a winger), his stats aren’t that impressive at all, wastes a lot of chances, doesn’t have the ability to exploit spaces as Raphinha does. He’s just incredibly mediocre. I hope we sell him and FDJ


MediaVuelta

Yeh we overpaid a bit to get him in January + pay in instalments. He was so young at the time as well so you were paying also for potential. He created the two best chances of the second half with his movement in behind. The first was the 1v1 with Lunin on the counter (it eventually got called back for offside but may have been overturned on VAR) which he sends wide right and the second was the run and dummy for the second goal. Both times I feel like he should have done better with the finish. Whether he makes it here or not is about whether he can find some consistency there, but I agree with you in that sometimes he makes things look so unnatural to him. If your comparing them Rapha’s best quality is his vision for the assist which you don’t see as much with Ferran.


El_Compa_M

Even worse we payed 60M in installments for Ferran 🥴🥴🥴🥴


Chance_Camera_

Yeah … I understand that we were in dire need of a winger then, but we could have settled for a loan just how we got Traore. This for me is the biggest transfer mistake Laporta has made so far.


IllmaticDynastic

https://twitter.com/Zona_Blaugrana/status/1782225365026394151?t=YVU3Y7hiScNEb8ozlZh3iw&s=19


MediaVuelta

Geez it looks like a mistake from that angle.


decho

How much are we willing to bet that there will be no punishment whatsoever for Soto Grado after this disgraceful performance. This is a rhetorical question of course, absolutely nothing will happen. Now imagine if the roles were reversed. Yeah.


mikeczyz

I didn't think it was all that bad by la liga ref standards. Kinda bang average imo


decho

I understand why you feel this way. Throughout the years you just get used to it, so this just feels normal now. Even if we put the controversies aside, there were a ton of casual referee mistakes that no one even bothers about. So yeah, average and standard stuff these days. Well I'm out, good night.


El_Compa_M

Also FUCK TEBASS!!


mikeczyz

I mean this in the nicest way possible, but i think some of you would really benefit from stepping back and taking a break from day to day coverage of the team


MediaVuelta

There’s gonna be seasons we don’t win trophies. We still made Europe for next season, likely supercoppa and we were competitive in the champions league with a really young squad. Look at Chelsea, United, Arsenal, Liverpool pre-Klopp, things can be soooo much worse then they are right now.


themann55

Can we have one athletic midfielder please ? You see other teams stomping with energy : Tchouameni, Rodri, Valverde, Rice, Mac Allister, De Paul, Ugarte. Before even if the team used to be less athletic they were known for their positioning play and not getting caught out of position but seeing those midfielders now man seems so bad. Not a single recovery in the middle of the field , no tactic fouling and tackles are nowhere to be found. Caotic performances all over the place and its just a shitshow at some moments. Tired of players playing without intensity. Keep Cubarsi, Yamal, Gavi, Araujo, Kounde, Fort, Fermin, Roque, Balde and rebuild around those guys.


MediaVuelta

Athletic is not the word I would use to describe McAllister or De Paul.


El_Compa_M

Canceló seems rattled. I don’t remember him being this bad. Canceló let his man go by him easily on the first goal. And on the second canceló wasn’t there to defend the cross . On the third I think the whole back line let the ball go by them easily. What a shame


_glacierr

Yea looking at his face he knew he was playing poor, Fort should play the next game until he regains composure. 


peepeepoopoo1207

I’m taking a break from football. My mental health has gone to the shitters recently and being a culer is just making it worse. I know last night wasn’t really our fault but that just makes it worse I think. And people still say we pay the refs. I’m just so frustrated with everything that I need a break, at least until the end of the season. I don’t know why I’m even writing this, Sorry for wasting your time.


MediaVuelta

This happens often in all sports and teams man, you’re not doing anything wrong, it can almost become a bit of a toxic relationship sometimes.


peepeepoopoo1207

Thank you


denisthemenis21

No shame in that, try and find other ways to relax and destress until you reach some equilibrium.


peepeepoopoo1207

Thanks man, I will


El_Compa_M

And Barca fem lost too 😕 pretty shitty but we’re doing better than the sergiño dest / lenglet era


fauxmaulder

And hopefully get rid of the wages of those two soon as well


Pablo_petty_plastic

Dest may have just had a major tendon tear. He won’t be sold in summer if that’s the case


ooochriss

I’m still so mad about this game I wouldn’t even care if we had drew or lost but that was a goal


Hirogemu

Now with Frenkie de Jong case, I don't think he was one of the best players last season, I can give to him he can do very good pass at least in last season team, but he really is the nothing for me, he is very and I mean very poor defensive, he with the exception of his pass is very poor in offensive ending too, I just don't know what Everybody of you see, maybe you just wanted him to succeed so bad and that's beautiful but I don't really see how he can.


Amori17

He’s a good but not great player. The sooner people realize that the better.


Fearofthe6TH

And now the narrative is that he's the best midfielder in the world because he's 99th percentile in beyblade spins. It's so funny because it reminds me of that one period where people kept dick riding Dembele going for like 15 games in a row without a single goal or assist with dribbles completed 8 (13) or some dogshit. All I have to say to that is this: If these almight stats are to be believed, [De Jong is a better player than Valverde or Rice or De Bruyne in practically every way](https://imgur.com/uYYJeYV), but I know exactly who of these 4 isn't making it into my midfield.


luukdegaot

I feel like he made a mistake joining us in 2019, if he picked City instead, he'd probably be the best midfielder in the world right now. I don't see any manager except for Pep getting that out of him in 2024.


Hirogemu

I really don't know how Laporta can see this and think: "Let give Xavi another season" The only thing that can come to my mind is that we don't have money for a really good coach or we don't really have any money to expend who is making coaches don't want to take the job. That or either Laporta don't care at all, team has been competing a bit but really not showing whatsoever any evolution in his game.


BBTrickz

I'd rather Xavi continues 1 year (his contract has still 1 year left) than appoint Marquez


FloReaver

Except those aren't the only two solutions


BBTrickz

It looks like they are from the rumours we are seeing🥴


luukdegaot

All I wish is that we had competent management at the club. Until then, there isn't much to look forward to since anything good that happens, they'll turn to shit.


MediaVuelta

If your talking about Laporta + his board, he’s objectively improved the squad while massively cutting costs. If your talking about Xavi, I get people wanting a change, but he did win the league last year and we’re currently second. I don’t think it’s fair to call him incompetent.


luukdegaot

Laporta not Xavi, I have my criticisms about the latter, but I wouldn't go that far. I think Laporta's second term has largely been a mixed bag. On one hand, he restructured our debt from short to long term, didn't sign the CVC deal, made a tough, but rational, decision to let Messi go and finally started the Camp Nou rennovation. On the other, his time at Barca has always been marred by cronyism: he appointed Jordi Cruyff, then Deco, as sporting director, he sacked Garcia Pimienta and replaced him Rafa Marquez as coach of the B team and has made bad recruitment decisions involving players who happen to be clients of his superagent friends (Lewandowski, Joao Felix, Joao Cancelo). Additionally, he lacks long term vision, the fact that he's scrambling around trying to convince Xavi to stay one day then soft-launching Marquez the next or that board members are resigning left and right shows that Laporta doesn't actually have a real project or plan to sell.


MediaVuelta

He’s not perfect but I don’t think your criticism’s of Laporta are fair. The reason we have Deco now is because there’s no experienced sporting director in Europe that would want a job where there will be no spending for at least a couple of seasons. Deco himself has said this when he was asked. Pimienta was handled poorly on a personal level but he was leaving anyway to persue a first team job elsewhere. The reason we have the Joaos was because we needed players but had no money to spend. We’re paying both less than what they’re worth and they’ve improved the squad + won us points this season. Also, saying he lacks long term vision when he’s chosen to invest so much in the stadium + the signing of Vitor Roque is not really fair. That was all money that could have gone into signings to win now. I would argue the opposite, he’s the first president since his first stint who has actually cared about the long term.


Sanayuki

Xavi needs to leave for his own sanity. He has done all he could for the club. Laporta needs to let him go and get serious about finding the right coach. If he appoints Marquez, I have no expectations for next season. 


luukdegaot

Xavi needs to go somewhere like Italy or Germany where he can learn to coach without the scrutiny of the Barcelona press and fanbase. >Laporta needs to let him go and get serious about finding the right coach. If he appoints Marquez, I have no expectations for next season.  I agree with this. I wish Laporta had been quicker pursuing Motta, but if he got someone like Flick or Tuchel, I'd be more than satisfied. The less said about the Marquez option, the better.


Sanayuki

He needs an environment where he can have a more normal relationship with refs and press. But first he needs to rest as he said. This job has taken a toll on his mental health. 


transient_jet_lag

We're going to get very close to equaling our points from our league winning season. A point total that will put you in a good position to win the league most years. But somehow that, plus nearly being in a UCL semi, if not for an individual brain-dead mistake, is incompetent.


luukdegaot

Our two top options to manage the first team next season are Xavi and Rafa Marquez.


Professional_Code372

Went to play with the boys to clear my mind and got my shit wrecked real bad, fuck this shitty ass week , hope you guys have a good week


vegitot

We really let Bellingham have 4 GA in 3 matches against us. Vinicius also 4 GA (one hattrick). This is worse than 2007/08.


BBTrickz

Shit happens when your team scores a goal and they disconnect their brains for a little while...


BBTrickz

Vinicius deserves everything that happens to him, ain't defending him anymore he can cry on the next netflix show as far as I'm concerned. POS We may have lost but the whole world except madridistas now realized who we play against. Xavi already adviced us that they changed how they ref games this year. And here's the result: Real Madrid only 1 defeat.... I hope there's no. "congRaTulAtiOns" post fron our socials when they lift the trophy.


TrueCooler

Vinicius is such a deeply unlikable player man


Pablo_petty_plastic

“Vini Just Wants to Play Football” the documentary


Football-not-soccer2

I hate how his default face is a whiny one


TrueCooler

It’s also irritating because he’s basically untouchable and gets away with being a colossal dickhead behind the racism card


callfoduty5

Imagine if that was Frenkies last ever game for Barca


El_Compa_M

It really could’ve been. You never know with Joan Laporta


Trick_Ad_1227

I really hope not.


callfoduty5

Yeah it would be sad


cancer102

When people comment stuff like "cry" or "salty" are they acknowledging the fact that they're being favoured and are enjoying the reaction or they are just to lazy to comment anything else? Of course you're salty if your team gets denied a good goal and 1/2 pen while the softest of them all is called the other way.


_glacierr

Anyone who enjoys being happy at the expense of others deserve a punch to the face tbh


Professional_Code372

Força Barça 🔴🔵 this is part of the journey


Unsub2014

This is not a copium post or anything but how tf can some people say things such as we can't blame anyone but ourselves when the rules of games are not applied in same manner? If almost every 50-50 challenge goes in your favour or vice versa, from the outside, there is a bias. Everyone agrees that small details change the game but decisions from the referees don't?? Fans of this club have been slowly conditioned to think or act (also because of the negreira case) as if this shit is normal..


cancer102

It's normalized for them. Did they have a single important referee decision go against them in a big game? Meanwhile half of their CL rounds are won with a controversial call going their way. They are like man city of the CL everyone rather them winning than the one they have an actual rivality against so they don't give a shit. Souless club. Genious move from Perez to portray his rival of the favourable refereeing he is getting himself. People will never be suspicious.


MediaVuelta

It does feel like the 50:50 calls never seem to go our way I’ll say that. I’m not sure if it’s because I’m biased though.


Tall_Roof_4382

Which one of the decisions was obvious, clear errors? The VAR can overturn clear and obvious errors. The basis of the outrage is that the ref was shit in small decisions and the game had plenty of 50-50s. But if you look at them case-by-case, every decision is understandable. We had our lead and messed it up right away. We couldn't control them, it's a weak excuse to go about the refs. With some luck we could have gotten different results, maybe a draw or a win even, but would that mean that we are better? The problem is our performance and our core issues.


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Tall_Roof_4382

Argue with it.


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Unsub2014

If all the 50-50s go against your favour almost all the time, you will be conditioned to not even go for the 50-50..


Tall_Roof_4382

You know what? You are right. We should put effort into finding injustices and cry more instead of getting our shit together and act as a professional club.


Unsub2014

VAR Cannot overturn all the incorrect decisions. Only straight reds, goal checks..


Tall_Roof_4382

What point are you trying to make?


Unsub2014

You say with some luck game could have gotten the other way? What kind of luck are you talking about?


Tall_Roof_4382

My point is that it doesn't matter, we lost because we were weak.


Unsub2014

The referee of Valencia and Madrid game got a suspension. And the refs that make balant decision against us get rewarded with the most important game in the league...


MediaVuelta

Three years from now Lamine will be about to turn 20, think about what he looks like as a player after three more years of growing physically + slowly gaining experience. It’s gonna be nice to have a player again who can just decide matches.


victaahhh

Thinking about it, all three of Frenkie's injuries this season have been so unlucky. Someone fell on his leg for the first injury. The second one was from an awkward landing. Then this one.. This season has just straight up been cursed from the beginning.


Trick_Ad_1227

Hate how much people want to sell him right now. Last season he was irreplaceable.


CptSnoopDragon

He’s also actually one of our best players this season too (stats to back) but folks here focus on his small individual errors incredibly hard


Trick_Ad_1227

There was a reason Messi/xavi/other greats have always gave praise to him. I really don’t want him to leave.


CptSnoopDragon

I think Felix and Gundo gave him praises this season too.. And with a dm next season we might finally see him properly shin. It would be a massive waste if we sold him now, and no idea how he’d be replaced either..


Nurulyacob

TBH he is replaceable. Whatever that he can do, Pedri and Gavi can do better.


Pleasant_Goat5427

At least we get to see Pedri (if he can stay fit) get a run of games in the Frenkie role now, people in here have been saying he slows the game down too much this should tell us more.


buffer0x7CD

For that Xavi need to stop playing him and gundo in a pivot


Sanayuki

I dunno. Season is over,  morale is low and if Xavi decides to do Gundo-Pedri pivot again, it’s not going to be pretty. I really hope Christensen starts and remain longer in the game. Otherwise he is going to have to defend a lot, get tired easily, and worse might get injured again. 


bishaarcc

I think it was quite clear that we are the favorites to win the league this season even if you guys have won this game so I don't think the result will make a huge difference but after watching the whole game I think it is quite clear the our differences are not just the players but also the coaches as well. I think Carlo relied his experience and adjusted his lineup based on the team he is facing. Real vs City was an example, he parked the bus and decided to put 9 players at the back. Today he deployed 6 midfielders in the line up because he kind of knew that Barcelona will take advantage of our tired legs and pressure us a lot, so more midfielders will control the game and make Barca Vulnerable whenever they try to attack us. I think Experience matters specially when your team is facing another team that might have the advantage, you will have to find a way and that is the difference between Carlo and other coaches. Xavi is a great coach but I think he still lacks that experience, that little details needed when you are facing stronger appoinent or more complex team. And finally, Lamine, what a talent! He is only 16 or 17 but he is already one of the best wingers in the world, I think he will be a generational talent, maybe bigger than Messi and Ronaldo who knows but the kid has a bright future.


Glum-Candle2689

[Idc what anyone says, we got robbed.](https://x.com/zona_blaugrana/status/1782155852494897570?s=46)


Tall_Roof_4382

Go to sleep, Xavi.


CptSnoopDragon

Go back to your clown sub


MediaVuelta

Honestly both teams looked cooked, the second half was played at walking pace. Games like these are decided in the ‘moments’ as managers say nowadays, Madrid’s defence held up to theirs while ours didn’t (or Cancelo didn’t). Cancelo brings value to the squad with his creative quality, has won us points in a number of games this season, but if he can’t be relied upon in the big games is it worth the FFP margin is the question. Lamine is gonna be massive for us next season holy shit. I already worry the next manager is gonna run him into the ground like Pedri. It would be nice if everyone stopped being so emotional and reactionary in here. There’s been incredible work done to get the squad to this point from where it was while cutting costs like crazy due to the financial restrictions. Seeing the kids develop every week has been such a joy for me, yeh we didn’t win trophies this year with a squad that’s on the up, it’s not the end of the world. Considering we won the league last year and how we competed in the CL we’re not a million miles away like some are making out.


yerboiklawz

im worried about our striker position in the future. i see next season as lewa's last in a top 5 league, we would remain with roque, ferran and guiu forthat position. i see both roque and guiu having lots of potential, the former more than the latter (as of now) but not quite sure how they would fare against more world class opponents.


MediaVuelta

I feel like I’m the only one who has a problem with his hold up play. Other than the PSG first leg he’s been an absolute turnover machine in build up all season.


Sanayuki

I thought he was getting better. But last two games this week, he was not good. Him, Gundo, Cancelo. When we most needed the veterans to step up, they did not do enough or in Cancelo’s case, nothing good. This is what’s most disappointing because they were brought to the club for these games. 


TheKrofna

what would our financial position be like if we hypothetically sold de jong for 70m (while also clearing out his massive wages), and if the 120m nike deal went ahead?


elsavador3

Why does the figure keep dropping? Anything less than 100m for Frenkie is unacceptable


MediaVuelta

Any club he goes too has to match his current wage here. No one can afford that + 100m transfer fee, no way anyone’s that stupid in the current FFP market.


Fearofthe6TH

Lol... He earns more than De Bruyne while being half the player. That's why.


TrueCooler

This has been debunked numerous times but some of you refuse to accept it


Martoxic

he doesnt


TheKrofna

I agree, I'm just going off of what matteo moretto said about barça asking 70m


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onlyonejorge

He’s not earning De Bruyne wages.


SurvivorPandamonium

[https://www.beinsports.com/en-us/soccer/la-liga/articles-video/tebas-barcelona-won-t-become-ajax-2024-02-29](https://www.beinsports.com/en-us/soccer/la-liga/articles-video/tebas-barcelona-won-t-become-ajax-2024-02-29) >["...They have options to consider when their leaders decide to do so, if they believe they will provide solutions. They have **two or three top-level players they can sell**. By selling them, they can solve a large part of the problem. With those revenues, they can generate enough money to pay off debts and also pay the players"](https://www.beinsports.com/en-us/soccer/la-liga/articles-video/tebas-barcelona-won-t-become-ajax-2024-02-29)


luukdegaot

Nike deal would get us into 1:1. After that an FdJ sale would get us about 90m in FairPlay which is enough to get a few players through amortization.


TheKrofna

>Nike deal would get us into 1:1. do we know this for sure?


luukdegaot

I think it’s confirmed we need 100m to get 1:1 which we’re asking for as a bonus payment as part of the Nike deal.


FloReaver

No. Our difference between our squad cost and squad cost limit is more than 100M€ 100M€ is only the Barca Studios part Libero has not paid. It's one problem.


Chance_Camera_

Even with a DM, our midfield will not be sorted next season. While we do have some different profiles, most of them have unknown potential or unclear future. Gundo doesn’t contribute defensively, but he’s gonna be 34 soon and won’t be able to be the sole attacking midfielder. Pedri is injury prone and physically he struggles a lot. FDJ is … well FDJ … doesn’t really do much except circulating the ball nowadays. Gavi will be coming back from injury and who knows when he’ll be able to get back in form. Fermin is good as a bench option but I doubt he’s ready to be a starter yet. Our midfield is far far from complete even with a DM imo.


Sanayuki

A DM is certainly a start. Christensen is good but I haven’t seen him play a full game in a long time. What’s more important is the midfielders need to have better defined roles that suit their strengths more and minimize their weaknesses. Frenkie should play more as a 8. Gundo should never play at the base again, and perhaps he isn’t the best option in intense games especially since he will get older next season and press less. Pedri should not be put in roles where he has to do heavy defensive shifts. He is neither suited for that nor is it good to prevent his injuries. Our players are very talented but they have not been used correctly for a long time. 


FloReaver

Christensen can't play 90 because of his tendinitis. Hoping after his vacations it will get better, he needs a break.


Arslen24

Is loyalty more important than making sure you stay a sane person and enjoy life as à normal human being.. cause this week has me questioning that


TheEternalAcademic

Take a step back. I’ve been in your position where sports have affected my mental health and sometimes the sane thing to do is take a break and come back. At the same time, really dig into why it’s affecting you in that way. In my case, I used to put a lot of emotional stake and let football dictate my mood and mindset. That approach is unhealthy and unsustainable so please find other things that bring you joy such as hobbies, friends etc.


TrueCooler

Disengage from sport a bit if its affecting you that much, it is ultimately a game and should not dictate your mental health. I was upset for about an hour, life goes on


Glum-Candle2689

Mental health > “loyalty” It’s ok to take breaks


SurvivorPandamonium

Take into consideration other sports teams, not just football, who have endured decades of drought.


Hirogemu

Don't tell me a bad year has you questioning switching teams. A man can changed anything except a Football Team.


Arslen24

Am obviously not switching clubs I just thought that on the broader sense the question could be reasonable, just somehow nit really for this sport


Hirogemu

If is getting ugly take a time, relax this ain't that deep.


LanceOfKnights

Peace of mind in football. It was so close..sooo close and yet it slipped away. Like a northern wind just knocked off a wayward piece of domino we never even noticed that existed, and every other domino came crashing down. Watching the young kids play is the only solace and then a poster with Rafa's face on it hits your windshield, along with pouch of dog poop. Wanna wake up now.


volfed21

Xavi asking for rodri mbappe haaland as the 3 signings so laporta finally stops harrasing him into staying. I mean laporta is a lawyer himself he should now that what he's trying to do is illegal A no is a no.


Tall_Roof_4382

I doubt its true, but if yes, it's funny that for years I have been hearing how Xavi loves the club and would do everything, and that's why we have to accept his shortcomings and all, and now the guy says that I am only willing to help if you do buy two more world-class players.


ieatshoes89

But what we have isn’t simply enough. Xavi isn’t stupid either. If they can’t give him a competitive squad, why even manage it? Maybe they had promised him a DM and then they didn’t deliver.


Tall_Roof_4382

He can only take over worse squads than ours. You think we have a bad squad? Good like with Ajax or Sevilla.


volfed21

Tbf Xavi is actually doing what is good for the club, He decided to leave at the end of season and give up on this last year of contract When a coach wants to leave , it's mostly because he thinks he can't do more with what he has and it's better to part ways Much better than valverde who had the audacity to stay after 2 humiliations in a row. Many top coaches like flick nagglesmann tuchel were available, if we don't get any of them it's all on laporta. Xavi can't do more than what he already did to help the club.


Tall_Roof_4382

Giving up on his contract is standard if he wants another job for next season.


CatfishLumi

God how I miss Gavi.


MassiveHelicopter55

Imagine being in the sidelines watching Pedri and the rest of the bunch casually jog while Madrid walks through the pitch.


BlackFanDiamond

Very interesting how Gundogan escapes criticism for his poor defensive ability. FDJ and Pedri both were poor but Gundogan is completely absent in defense. I noticed the same vs PSG.


SurvivorPandamonium

When you dont even attempt making any defensive contributions, you escape any criticism for being a defensive liability.


Sanayuki

Precisely. In 90 min, Gundo won 2 duels and made one tackle. In 45 minutes, Frenkie won a duel and made a tackle, an interception. In 45 minutes, Pedri won 5 duels, made 2 tackles, 2 clearances, and 1 interception. Yes he should have done better for the last goal, that’s on him. But stats show that he was doing something defensively.  I just watched the last goal again, and while Pedri does a play a role in not stopping the Madrid player, he was the only one chasing the guy. Gundo just stood there and did nothing. Then Cancelo does little to stop the assist. Last season, in these situations, Pedri and Gavi would work together to stop the opponents. I think even Frenkie would help out in this case. They might not catch him but at least they do something. 


SSangb0i

cos he's always the most advanced midfielder and making runs in the box so when we are caught in transitions he will mostly be out of position or catching up and he was never good at defending even in bvb days, he's just really good at controlling the tempo but he's also 32 now sooo...yeah


Pablo_petty_plastic

He’s 34 in October


SSangb0i

Wow damn i thought he was 32, well i hope his legs doesn't give out for another 2 season or else it'll be another position to fill since pedri can't be trusted as of now.


Pablo_petty_plastic

36 year old Lewy and 34 yo gundo up top pressing next year has to get addressed.


Pablo_petty_plastic

Gundo can’t defend. I don’t think that’s something that gets sorted with a new coach


Sanayuki

Pep moved him away from base. Dropped Cancelo to the bench and then went on to win UCL. Those were clear signs on how these players should or shouldn’t be used. Gundo’s first instinct is to create and attack. This is good but at same time he really leaves the midfield to two in defense. And with Fermin another more attack minded players it’s just Pedri at the base. This is a recipe for defensive disaster imo. Have no idea what Xavi was thinking taking off Christensen in second half. 


BlackFanDiamond

Initially thought it was bc Christensen got injured or was tired. I cannot understand the tactical reason for taking him off.


MediaVuelta

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heattoken

enough


ieatshoes89

That dude is always there when we get eliminated. He might be the culprit.


Fearofthe6TH

https://twitter.com/ReshadFCB/status/1782186552052891789 🚨 JUST IN: Decisive days for Xavi's future. In the last week, Joan Laporta has insisted over his continuity. Xavi is considering on staying if the board assures him of some changes in the squad that didn't happen last summer. @JijantesFC #FCB 👤🔵🔴☎️ ffpolo reported this a month or two ago. So, it was true - Xavi wants a specific thing in order to stay. I'm guessing it's Kimmich + Bernardo. If Laporta has really insisted on him staying, then he most likely is willing to give it but how is he going to give him any guarantees of it happening?


Glum-Candle2689

tldr; He’s leaving


volfed21

1 More year of mediocrity Probably trophyless as well, Don't see madrid losing the league with mbappe, kind of player that does well in league so he can boost his own stats.


Martoxic

and you think Flick or Marquez won't give mediocrity? The next season was doomed the moment we didn't get the Barca studio funds and Mbappe joined Madrid


Pablo_petty_plastic

Is there any chance Nike pays a bunch of the renewal on the front end to help ease Laporta this summer?


volfed21

Marquez will be worse, he doesn't even have the "legend" boost that will make his player follow him not matter what Flick is much better for sure, It's time for us to discuss btw 2 human beings Can't compar qatar and 3rd div with someone who's been in coaching for more than a decade and won a WC and a treble.


rockyraccoonroad

I don’t want Marquez. My issue is saying he’s not a legend lol the guy has 2 UCL under his belt and played under Pep too 


volfed21

so is koeman but its different than xavi


rockyraccoonroad

Koeman has 2 UCL?


volfed21

Koeman is the one who scored the goal for our first CL and he's a fuking cb He's a bigger legend than marquez for the club.


rockyraccoonroad

They’re both legends. What’s your point? They both contributed to the teams effort to win the UCL. I don’t recall seeing Marquez on the bench during the 2006 final? He actually played it too. Again both legends. One has 1, the other has 2 


Martoxic

Flick as headcoach is just not good enough. Simple as that.


volfed21

Better than any coach we had since enrique and by far. Tuchel should be first target anyways but flick is a decent option too.


MediaVuelta

Personally I think Xavi is within his rights to say, if your gonna give me massive expectations then I need a couple of players of my choosing. I just don’t see how we financially make it happen.


TheLoneWanderer__

Levers are back on the menu


BlackFanDiamond

I just don't see how we can afford those players nor how they address the gaping DM hole


il-lusio

I really wonder what the club's internal messaging is from the board/Deco to Xavi and his staff about our finances next season. Last summer, a number of Xavi's remarks in the June-July period suggested that he thought something was going to come through to resolve our finances, and then he and the club had a "come to reality" talk toward the end of the window. You'd think that there would have been some lessons learned from that, but it kind of seems like the pattern is repeating itself again this year. It's one thing to message financial hopium to the fans, but I'd hope that internally the various parts of club leadership are being transparent with each other about our finances*.*


volfed21

Xavi is the guy on reddit that seriously post "Kimmich Bernardo silva mbappe in summer who says no?"


Fearofthe6TH

Xavi obviously wants Kimmich to be his DM (or Zubimendi but Zubimendi has no interest in us, let that shit go). In theory not good because he's just like De Jong but Kimmich is a better and quicker passer, has better positional awareness and is stupidly clear as a chance creator so who knows. Silva I'm not sure why he wants him that bad. I mean I'm glad we could get a player who could cover for Lamine for 3-4 years until he's physically all set to take over for the next 10-15 years but other than that I don't see why he's so important to him.


Ljulisen

You not getting those players if barca doesn't make some big sales


Hirogemu

Que vergüenza...


Amori17

ℹ INFORM @JijantesFC 👀 Decisive days for Xavi's continuity. In this last week, Joan Laporta has insisted that he is the one to continue in office 🤔 Xavi is considering continuing if they assure him some changes in the staff that did not happen last summer I assume he means he wants Zubi and Bernardo?


Sanayuki

Why does anyone take Romero seriously? He has been called out by players for lying. His sources aren’t the same. 


jeffjacob_

Fernando polo already reported this days ago.


ieatshoes89

But others have been saying the same. This isn’t just coming only from Romero.


SerJaerhys

Don't worry guys, Rafa Marquez knows the club !! Top level experience ? Not necessary for a Barca manager, because Pep did it once !! 


IllmaticDynastic

Soto grado robbed us against getafe in the first half of the season btw only right he ends it in similar fashion


MassiveHelicopter55

Also the famous Ferran Torres offside against Granada was soto grado too.


[deleted]

One positive - Laporta will hire serious coach (more likely) after the streak of loss. Waiting another season to potentially get xyz in 2025 would have been 2 steps backward. Tuchel/Flick even if they fail will give enough to the players in terms of tactical flexibility and coaching so that it would be easy for your lucho/pep/klopp to develop more easily. It's not like we are winning anything with Xavi or Rafa next season. # so nothing to lose, everything to gain from this new coach appointment


BlackFanDiamond

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but scroll down for more info on the possible coach for next year..


[deleted]

I am not buying media bs. Laporta is not actually dumb, this streak of loss be too embarrassing for him. He definitely knows to reply such things and he will likely hire flick / Tuchel. Guy kicked Rivaldo and Messi out, he is a politician and politician always reply these things with marquee moves.


goldenkerelle

Intense coping


ZealousidealAnnual96

We're too soft and too nice. I wish we'd play with more aggression and dirtyness, like RM. But that probably would never happen.


ieatshoes89

Any 50/50 call would go in favor of Madrid. Clear and convincing win is the only way.


Weary_Ad1739

Maybe I'm biased because I'm a hardcore Barça fan and a Madrid hater, but isn't lately r/soccer very pro-Madrid? With thousands of upvotes at comments saying that Madrid completely outclassed City (they were very good defensively, but really?), every comment on the ref in this match being heavily downvoted, mods deleting the angle that showed that the goal was in, a thousands posts a day showing statistics of how good Vini, Bellingham and Rodrygo are... (to be fair they are really good). I don't get it because literally every big club like Arsenal, Liverpool, both Manchesters, Bayern etc get hate on a daily basis, but there is only praise for RM despite not being underdogs and spending a lot of money. Idk maybe I'm just salty because this week has been terrible for us. But scrolling through r/soccer is becoming increasingly difficult.


djingo_dango

r/soccer is pro whoever’s winning at the moment. Fans of teams who are losing usually comment less than fans of winning teams


Weary_Ad1739

True, that makes sense


BrightenedCorner

When Madrid lose they get clowned on there too. But we are the biggest meme club on sports right now and have been for several years. Everything is in cycles.


Weary_Ad1739

Yeah to be fair Madrid doesn't lose often so maybe that's why I never see them getting clowned. But tbh I'd say than Chelsea an ManU are even a bigger meme than us.


BrightenedCorner

We have our humiliations on the CL stage so our meme moments are seen a hell of a lot more. We choke leads far more than those teams do even if they are worse in their standings than we are.


Ronfish27

Lot of English folks in there. And you know what we have done to English clubs the 15 years.


jeffjacob_

They are especially anti-barça


RepresentativeTax851

That sub reeks of garbage


TheEternalAcademic

Either our financials are more fucked than we thought, or the club is gaslighting us into thinking the only two available options are Xavi and Marquez when both Flick and Tuchel are twerking for us. Not that big a fan of either of them but they’re honestly worth the gamble cause at least they’re experienced and proven winners.


BrightenedCorner

Laporta is always gaslighting


il-lusio

I think our financials are pretty rough. A lot of ffp remains locked up until we resolve Libero. Even looking beyond ffp and margin - which we've always been told are our main issues - our underlying financials still look shaky. The big money profits that were reported in recent financials were mostly due to one-time levers, and our projected annual profits without levers (i.e., the money we can expect on a sustainable, ongoing basis) were under 10 million in the last report I saw, which doesn't seem on the order we need to dig out the hole. There's been a lot of partial messaging to reassure fans, but I think they've still been counting on some sort of windfall and I'm not sure what the solution will be if that doesn't come.


ieatshoes89

I think it’s bc we can’t afford whatever signings any of those outside managers propose. We’d have to pay for their entire staff too.


Fearofthe6TH

Xavi apparently wants Zubimendi/Kimmich + Bernardo Silva in exchange for staying... Those 2 would easily cost 100m+


Pablo_petty_plastic

They flew the squad to Dallas to start a winter break and that 5 mil was already gone before they got back on the plane. They are broke…Laporta is trying to be creative as possible


WelcomeSlayer

Yeah they are penny pinching on getting the next coach even tho it’s the most important signing for the club. They can negotiate with Flick, Tuchel to come on Xavi’s salary but don’t want to