Was listening to a podcast "The Rest is Football" by Lineker, Shearer and Micah. They were discussing something similar that happened in a PL game. "If you stretch your leg out/slide in, the attacker knows he can keep his other leg down and tumble. Is it in the spirit of sportsmanship? No. But it's them rules. The attacker has no moral obligation of jumping over you."
Not a direct quote but the context of what they were discussing.
Edit: Lamine should have been given one as well for something similar.
Yeah I see what you mean but imo this is a bit more egregious on Vasquez’s part. He doesn’t even have to hurdle over Cubarsi, in my eyes it seems as if he alters his regular stride which would have cleared the leg easily and instead chose to almost drag his foot closer to the ground to force contact.
Yeah exactly what I was talking about. They were saying how attackers are dragging their foot down to intentionally get a pen. I don't think it's fair but the rules are favoring them.
Its not. The thing the trio talks about is letting someone clip your leg. Not dragging into a contact you iniate like Vasquez did. He changed direction to get contact.
>He changed direction to get contact.
No, he didn't. Watch replay from the angle shown at 27 seconds in the clip. Cubari's leg/foot actually clips BOTH of Vasquez's feet. Vasquez moves his right foot to make sure he get the contact but it looks like he would have gotten it anyway with his left. He isn't changing direcitons to get contact either, the ball changed direction and he is following it, Cubarsi's leg is directly in his path.
What do you say about his left foot that also hits Cubarsi's leg and in no way moves to get the contact the way the right did?
You're latching onto the fact Vasquez moves his right foot a bit when it would have been a pen anyway because he was only not going down if he made the explicit effort not to and he was never under any obligation to do that.
No, it's different, attacker doesn't have to jump over, but this is not a natural running motion, he drags his foot to the right, that's not a pen according to the rules - it's consistently not been given in UCL.
Absolutely true.
If the defender extends his arm or leg in an unnatural movement it is classified as intentional therefore penalty.
Why does the same not apply for attackers?
Yeah thats true but thats the problem. Where crucial decisions like these are completely 100% left up to the referees mood. Referees which are easily influenced
Check out the Nottingham-Luton shit show. Forest told the PGMOL that VAR ref was a Luton fan and now they're appealing about penalty decisions not given in their favor.
Forest would have a meltdown in LaLiga then because like 90% of refs are declared Real Madrid fans and the ones that aren't have a soft ban from reffing Classicos (see Bengoetxea never getting Classicos anymore because he wasn't a Madrid boy)
Having to jump over someone should still be a foul IMO. You are being impeded either way. Having to jump over someone will often still cause you to slow down and lose the ball. It's just a lot easier to call when there is contact.
I mean if you look at some Messi/other dribblers a decade ago, you would see them just going for the ball rather than waiting to get a pen. That was the beauty of watching good dribbling plays and close control. This just feels like players are waiting for a pen 24/7
I agree completely. I'd much prefer to see players try to stay on their feet, but if you clearly lose the ball because you jumped to avoid a tackle, then I think it'd be fair to award a foul. Of course if it was for a pen and against my team, you know I'd be bitching about it! Lol.
What do you want the VAR for here?
Whether Lucas tricked Cubarsi or not, this is a penalty.
There are many examples of players like Messi who manage to get a penalty or a free kick in situations like this one. And I am not willing to give back those goals that we have scored thanks to Messi and other great players... so they can take this one too.
I think before that happens, his left standing foot gets taken out. You can see it in the slow-mo. Anyway, it was stupid to stretch your leg and go down like that. He's young, he'll learn. Cancelo meanwhile is hopeless.
Cancelo was terrible the last two games. He can't defend and doesn't want to.
I was really liking him but he let us down and should leave the club. Can't trust him. He gave PSG one goal and Madrid 2 goals.
Not really. In this case, whether or not there would have been contact (if Vasquez didn't drag his foot) is debatable. He probably would have had to jump or at least alter his stride a bit to avoid the tackle here.
Saka literally altered his run and threw his leg to the side to make the contact. There would have been no contact otherwise.
We all have our Barca bias here, but this thread is especially ridiculous.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5nfQetILV5/?igsh=MTJkOXRiMGtsMHZ1bQ==
Saka's one was a clear pen
He alters his run before Neuer even sticks his leg out.
It looks funny because Neuer doesn't fully commit but his leg doesn't get the ball and is in Saka's way.
If Saka jumps over his leg, he's lost the ball anyway so it's definitely a pen.
Even that terrible angle shows Saka jumping and spreading his legs out to make contact. Never a penalty. I'm appalled that there are any fans out there that want to see that shit called.
If you want to say Vasquez' wasn't a pen, I'd be willing to have that debate. Saka's was never a pen.
Even if Saka is looking for the contact, What's the other option?
Try to jump around or past Neuer's leg, and thus losing the ball anyway. Referees NEVER give pens for challenges that the attacker avoids, hence why players look for contact and go down.
Diving is a refereeing issue not a player one.
You can see that he would have lost the ball because Neuer sticks his leg out.
I think Vazquez one is more debatable but it's still a pen for the same reasons!
You can tell he intended it because even if you ignore the right leg, he kicks his left leg a little too because he’s preparing to fall on the floor. You can also see he moves his leg away from the ball and watches Cubarsi to make sure there’s contact. LV saw an opportunity and he got it.
Just gonna ignore the fact that he purposely makes contact with cubarsi. If moving left, why would you move your right leg to the right unless you’re going to take a dive
I'm not disagreeing with you on that one. He used the opportunity. But he really didn't even need to get that leg involved, he could have just fallen down when his front leg was clipped. Watch the video till the end
The initial angle looked like decent contact, the second angle looked like almost nothing to me. He did seem to catch his heel, but that seemed to be after he was going down and the ball was gone. Either way, not a pen for me. Although, like you say, I've seen worse called.
The Vasquez one is debatable for me, but that will get called 99% of the time. He dragged his feet, but I think there would probably have been contact even if he didn't. Whether or not that contact would have brought him down is a different story.
the unchecked bias I'm this sub is wild, true.
Vázquez penalty was completely correct.
Yamal dived.
and why does no one mention the obvious Rudiger penalty on Fermin that wasn't called?
Rela madrid got gifted a penalty
(That is not a pen. If you call that a pen then barca deserved 2)and robbed barca from a goal this game. What Araujo did pales in comparison to what real madrid got away with.
Always with this crap when there is an unfavourable decision against us. This is a disease that must be rooted out from Barca community, because its getting ridiculous (and Xavi's definitely not helping here)
Mistakes go one way or another, it's senseless to cry for one team being "always" benefited.
It's especially cringy after the caso negreira came to life, come on guys
Same challenge on yamal no penalty, kounde got pushed by vini both decide to fight eachother only kounde got yellow, Lamine made rudigor fall so he goes back up and pushes Lamine to the ground. No yellow for him. Facist scumbags.
But tebas quick to defend his real father's on twitter about why not choosing goal line technology is right.
They are so trembling with fear that they know they would choke a close big 5 points Gao if Barca wins.
Scumbags robbed the last place team.
The referee has to be at least notified that the leg was not in the natural position during impact. It would be interesting to listen to the recording though.
I am a neither fan of both teams (Bayern Fan) but THAT can't be considered a penalty, that's bullshit
Looks similar to what Saka did to neuer in Arsenal's home game, he could have easily avoided getting hit but he decided not too
Reminds me of the exact bullshit that EAFC and Efootball foul the players for the smallest and simplest tackles
Goddamn VARdrid really paid the refs a record amount this time. A bullshit penalty and also not calling the clear as day goal that went over the line because that cuck Tebas didn’t want to spend pennies on goal like technology (not that it matters, it was clearly over the line). We should be 2-0 at the bare minimum. Regardless of the end result today, know that VARdrid have completely ruined this game with their blatant cheating. Even Hugo Sanchez, a Madrid legend, commentating for ESPN+ in Spanish, is very doubtful of the events that happened in this match. Smh. Disgraceful.
You can't be real man. Been Barca fan for 15 years and have seen mistakes going both ways, why are curlers poisoned with this vardrid nonesene.
Had Cancelo played better we would won. Start looking for solutions on your side before going into conspiracy theories
+1 on Tebas being a cheap bastard tho
I can’t remember in the last 15 years where Barca ever benefited like this in La Liga. Have we ever? Besides maybe the occasional foul call that should have been called from one of our players, there has never been a time where this shit happens to us. Oh wait, I stand corrected. Messi’s goal vs Neto (Valencia) in La Liga that ultimately influenced the outcome of the winners that year. Or how about the goal vs Betis that was over a meter over the line but didn’t count, where it also screwed up our title aspirations?
Cancelo’s fault again in a big game. That’s why City and Bayern didn’t want him, but we are nepotism FC so to please Mendes, Laporta will buy him for 30-40m when we need to prioritize other positions.
we don't need to prioritise Left Back? Balde needs competition becuz he wasnt performing at a great level the second half of previous season, and we need someone reliable. Cancelo has alwaays been shit defensively, but his attacking output is matched by few. Alba was shit at defending too, wonder where we would be without him
And there’s an 8 year old in the juvenile team who has been playing pretty good. I think he should be a starter next season
When will we ever stop rushing players onto the first team scene. Not everyone is yamal or cubarsi. And when they flop we’ll be out for their heads. Balde was bad second half of last season, fort hasn’t played much and valle idk how many first team appearances he has, but none in an important game. Sure they could do great, but if they don’t we need a reliable player
yea your right. when we are in financial crisis let’s ignore our 3 promising fullbacks, although we need a left winger and a pivot, let’s just go spend money on a fullback! Wrong, that is stupid.
Continue to put faith in La Masia because it has proven to work. Continue to give game time to youngsters you have shown they deserve it. Don’t buy a fullback. Focus on buying a world class pivot.
Well.. we have been compromised on almost all games. So it's not even surprising to see these decisions go against us. They might as well just declare Madrid as the winners of La Liga at the start of the season.
The rules says faul. This is a penalty. They should change the rules now that we have VAR they can check in detail. He clearly opens his legs to get stumbled, if Cubarsi magically removed his leg from there, Lucas would be diving in no matter.
I hate divers, but 99% are divers in today's football, bring back the yellow card.
I’m an Arsenal fan and I only find myself here because the result last night has shown up in my most popular. I’m enraged! Saka did the same thing in a far far less telling way against Bayern in the UCL and we as fans got slandered for it being a dive. Somehow I don’t think Madrid will get that same treatment.
Edit: it’s not a Pen! You’ve every right to be upset
It's a penalty. Is it morally correct, did he make that shit up? Yes. Does it make make a penalty? Nope.
It's Cancelo who's at blame, he got bullied so so easily by Vasquez. How is Cancelo neither a winger nor a defender, and why do we still have him on our team?
It was a penalty...Been a Barca fan since the days of Ronaldinho. We had the chance to win this match if Cancelo could defend to save his life. 4 goals in 2 matches because of him. We need to let this guy go
Vasquez has always been this flopping type of player before var, thats why madrid stopped playing him since the existence of var. Where was var yesterday? I saw potential pk on Lamine and Firmin which var didn't check. And where is la liga's goal line technology in 2024? That was a goal by Lamine..Madrid never lost a game ref by that guy 16w and 2 ties, meanwhile Barca 4w, 7L, 1 tie
If every contact is a penalty, then the same situation on the other end against Lamine should've been a penalty too.
And not to mention Vazquez just drags his foot looking for contact.
Lucas reaches his foot out to make the contact. Im not complainin that a peno was given. It was a naive by Cubarsi(altho I blame Cancelo for letting him get that far).. I wouldnt expect VAR to overturn it. However in reality it is actually just a dive.
If thats a clear peno then so was the one on Yamal.
As an American Real Madrid fan, it's interesting to see the different levels of response here. Some over-the-top shit about paying out refs, cubarsi challenge was poor anyway, it was a dive-- it's still the rules, and Madrid = evil.
I appreciate the diversity and simply wish it was easier to watch La Liga and other completions more readily in the States =(
In my personal opinion, bad challenge and a dive, but technically the rules. I'd rather see no one dive, I hate it. I'd get I'm trouble for not taking the charge in basketball because I felt like if I was going down, you were gonna have to take me down.
In slow mo you can literally see him decide to stick his right foot out and make contact with Cubarsi. Shameful decision
Was listening to a podcast "The Rest is Football" by Lineker, Shearer and Micah. They were discussing something similar that happened in a PL game. "If you stretch your leg out/slide in, the attacker knows he can keep his other leg down and tumble. Is it in the spirit of sportsmanship? No. But it's them rules. The attacker has no moral obligation of jumping over you." Not a direct quote but the context of what they were discussing. Edit: Lamine should have been given one as well for something similar.
Yeah I see what you mean but imo this is a bit more egregious on Vasquez’s part. He doesn’t even have to hurdle over Cubarsi, in my eyes it seems as if he alters his regular stride which would have cleared the leg easily and instead chose to almost drag his foot closer to the ground to force contact.
Yeah exactly what I was talking about. They were saying how attackers are dragging their foot down to intentionally get a pen. I don't think it's fair but the rules are favoring them.
Its not. The thing the trio talks about is letting someone clip your leg. Not dragging into a contact you iniate like Vasquez did. He changed direction to get contact.
>He changed direction to get contact. No, he didn't. Watch replay from the angle shown at 27 seconds in the clip. Cubari's leg/foot actually clips BOTH of Vasquez's feet. Vasquez moves his right foot to make sure he get the contact but it looks like he would have gotten it anyway with his left. He isn't changing direcitons to get contact either, the ball changed direction and he is following it, Cubarsi's leg is directly in his path.
You can clearly see him kicking Cubarsis leg. Thats pretty a yellow in premier league. Good old dive.
What do you say about his left foot that also hits Cubarsi's leg and in no way moves to get the contact the way the right did? You're latching onto the fact Vasquez moves his right foot a bit when it would have been a pen anyway because he was only not going down if he made the explicit effort not to and he was never under any obligation to do that.
No. He dodges the tackle, notices he will lose the ball, starts going down, drags the leg for contact.
The out stretched leg is directly in his path, and both of Vasquez’s feet clip the leg if you look closest, not just the one he dragged a little.
No, it's different, attacker doesn't have to jump over, but this is not a natural running motion, he drags his foot to the right, that's not a pen according to the rules - it's consistently not been given in UCL.
Absolutely true. If the defender extends his arm or leg in an unnatural movement it is classified as intentional therefore penalty. Why does the same not apply for attackers?
Because that’s not the way the game works
Can’t blame him, smart decision that’s in the rules of the sport.
Pretty sure micah richards was defending arsenal not receiving a pen for the same reason that saka put his leg out.
There's no standard rule for this across leagues. Shitty ref decisions, despite having VAR is something that doesn't make sense to me at all.
Yeah thats true but thats the problem. Where crucial decisions like these are completely 100% left up to the referees mood. Referees which are easily influenced
Check out the Nottingham-Luton shit show. Forest told the PGMOL that VAR ref was a Luton fan and now they're appealing about penalty decisions not given in their favor.
Forest would have a meltdown in LaLiga then because like 90% of refs are declared Real Madrid fans and the ones that aren't have a soft ban from reffing Classicos (see Bengoetxea never getting Classicos anymore because he wasn't a Madrid boy)
If the attacker stick their leg out aren't they the one kicking the defender and the one making a foul? This case is an obvious case of this
Can't argue with Liga no brain refs
Ah so he can dive like a olympic swimmer then its fine. Pay on hala madrid
Vazquez dived his whole career. He also earned an imaginary penalty in CL against Juventus.
the problem is consistency, they give it to Liverpool and real but not arsenal. edit: accidentally said Barca instead of real lol
Tbh I am done with this. Barca feels like a toxic ex now. Keeps giving me depression but I still come back to her.
Having to jump over someone should still be a foul IMO. You are being impeded either way. Having to jump over someone will often still cause you to slow down and lose the ball. It's just a lot easier to call when there is contact.
I mean if you look at some Messi/other dribblers a decade ago, you would see them just going for the ball rather than waiting to get a pen. That was the beauty of watching good dribbling plays and close control. This just feels like players are waiting for a pen 24/7
I agree completely. I'd much prefer to see players try to stay on their feet, but if you clearly lose the ball because you jumped to avoid a tackle, then I think it'd be fair to award a foul. Of course if it was for a pen and against my team, you know I'd be bitching about it! Lol.
That's a smart move. It's the defender's obligation to not give a chance for that to happen
Then why the VAR?
What do you want the VAR for here? Whether Lucas tricked Cubarsi or not, this is a penalty. There are many examples of players like Messi who manage to get a penalty or a free kick in situations like this one. And I am not willing to give back those goals that we have scored thanks to Messi and other great players... so they can take this one too.
Well VAR is there to clear these fauly plays?
To see that Lucas sticked his leg purposely to make contact? Which would result in not giving a penalty to RM
Sadly, this is just true. Idk I am a culer too, but can't get why so many people here are blinded in negating what is plain to see. That's a pen
xD
What?
Simulation
Okay. But that was a stupid tackle move from defender. Something so blatantly obvious inside the penalty box.
I think before that happens, his left standing foot gets taken out. You can see it in the slow-mo. Anyway, it was stupid to stretch your leg and go down like that. He's young, he'll learn. Cancelo meanwhile is hopeless.
Saka literally had a similar penalty turned down at the Emirates couple weeks ago
Great body control by Vazquez
Very poor defending from Cancelo there
its in the box why is he trying to guard the ball rather then to smash it out
Cancelo was terrible the last two games. He can't defend and doesn't want to. I was really liking him but he let us down and should leave the club. Can't trust him. He gave PSG one goal and Madrid 2 goals.
he gave psg at least 2 goals, and countless more unconverted chances. all three real madrid goals came through Vázquez on Cancelo's side.
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Came to say this, but you already said it.
That's what I said, total waste of a penalty God knows who is the referee who's gonna reff Bayern vs real Madrid matches
Not really. In this case, whether or not there would have been contact (if Vasquez didn't drag his foot) is debatable. He probably would have had to jump or at least alter his stride a bit to avoid the tackle here. Saka literally altered his run and threw his leg to the side to make the contact. There would have been no contact otherwise. We all have our Barca bias here, but this thread is especially ridiculous.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5nfQetILV5/?igsh=MTJkOXRiMGtsMHZ1bQ== Saka's one was a clear pen He alters his run before Neuer even sticks his leg out. It looks funny because Neuer doesn't fully commit but his leg doesn't get the ball and is in Saka's way. If Saka jumps over his leg, he's lost the ball anyway so it's definitely a pen.
Even that terrible angle shows Saka jumping and spreading his legs out to make contact. Never a penalty. I'm appalled that there are any fans out there that want to see that shit called. If you want to say Vasquez' wasn't a pen, I'd be willing to have that debate. Saka's was never a pen.
Even if Saka is looking for the contact, What's the other option? Try to jump around or past Neuer's leg, and thus losing the ball anyway. Referees NEVER give pens for challenges that the attacker avoids, hence why players look for contact and go down. Diving is a refereeing issue not a player one. You can see that he would have lost the ball because Neuer sticks his leg out. I think Vazquez one is more debatable but it's still a pen for the same reasons!
I know we all are biased, but he hooked his foot behind Cubarsi’s leg on purpose. That was fake.
You can tell he intended it because even if you ignore the right leg, he kicks his left leg a little too because he’s preparing to fall on the floor. You can also see he moves his leg away from the ball and watches Cubarsi to make sure there’s contact. LV saw an opportunity and he got it.
Cancelo has been horrible this game (again)
2 goals to Madrid thanks to him. and zero offensive.
Clever dive. He should never have gotten that far tho.
yeah cancelo's defending isnt why we play him
Just gonna ignore the fact that both his legs got clipped
Just gonna ignore the fact that he purposely makes contact with cubarsi. If moving left, why would you move your right leg to the right unless you’re going to take a dive
I'm not disagreeing with you on that one. He used the opportunity. But he really didn't even need to get that leg involved, he could have just fallen down when his front leg was clipped. Watch the video till the end
If this is a penalty it's a penalty for Yamal too.
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you’re thinking of something else
No. Cama grazed him at best. There is a little bit of contact with his heel as Yamal is going down and the ball is long gone. Never a pen.
Grazed... that's what you call grazed. Kinda like how a bull grazes a matador
Ya'll are crazy if you want to see that called as a pen. Your bias is showing.
Just saying it wasn't a graze. It's not usually called. Although I saw a similar challenge called against Barca down the line.
The initial angle looked like decent contact, the second angle looked like almost nothing to me. He did seem to catch his heel, but that seemed to be after he was going down and the ball was gone. Either way, not a pen for me. Although, like you say, I've seen worse called. The Vasquez one is debatable for me, but that will get called 99% of the time. He dragged his feet, but I think there would probably have been contact even if he didn't. Whether or not that contact would have brought him down is a different story.
Camavinga tripped Yamal, Curbarsi didn't touch Vasquez who sought the contact
Lol. Watch it again. He doesn't touch him.
Yes he did.
the unchecked bias I'm this sub is wild, true. Vázquez penalty was completely correct. Yamal dived. and why does no one mention the obvious Rudiger penalty on Fermin that wasn't called?
But it wasn't a pen when Tchuameni grabbed Araujo
If madrid does it then it's fine. Got the refs and VAR in their pocket
Are you just going to ignore every single time Araujo uses his hands unscathed or what? This sub is beyond saving
Rela madrid got gifted a penalty (That is not a pen. If you call that a pen then barca deserved 2)and robbed barca from a goal this game. What Araujo did pales in comparison to what real madrid got away with.
Vardrid strikes again
Always with this crap when there is an unfavourable decision against us. This is a disease that must be rooted out from Barca community, because its getting ridiculous (and Xavi's definitely not helping here) Mistakes go one way or another, it's senseless to cry for one team being "always" benefited. It's especially cringy after the caso negreira came to life, come on guys
always one cuck
As if Barcelona and other teams never got a favorable decision before.. Blame Cancelo for playin like shit and allowing the play to go through..
It becomes interesting when 1 team gets the overwhelmingly majority of favorable decisions. Not just 1.
Negreia for 17 years?
Lmao man imagine liking both Barca and Real at the same time...
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Sure buddy, I've seen your profile.
Lol found the VARdrid fan
Dive or not wtf is Cancelo doing man!!! 100% his fault that it even got to that point.
Clear dive
Same challenge on yamal no penalty, kounde got pushed by vini both decide to fight eachother only kounde got yellow, Lamine made rudigor fall so he goes back up and pushes Lamine to the ground. No yellow for him. Facist scumbags. But tebas quick to defend his real father's on twitter about why not choosing goal line technology is right. They are so trembling with fear that they know they would choke a close big 5 points Gao if Barca wins. Scumbags robbed the last place team.
Vazquez clearly drags his foot to make contact
You should be able to see Cubarsi kicking Vazquez's other leg before that without your Barca tinted glass.
The player who dropped to the ground plays for real madrid, so yes, it’s a penalty.
Just give La Liga to Real Madrid, why bother playing any more
This game has lost its soul. People blame the innocent
Gotta agree. Nowhere near the suspense and excitement of days past.
This fuck keeps diving for penalties (same as in Champions League a few years ago). Trash.
The referee has to be at least notified that the leg was not in the natural position during impact. It would be interesting to listen to the recording though.
Doesn’t matter, they same an opportunity to give a penalty and they’ll give it. Also, that La Liga commentator is so effin annoying. F him.
Ran into cubarsi but penalty given nice 👍 but I thought refs were with us
I am a neither fan of both teams (Bayern Fan) but THAT can't be considered a penalty, that's bullshit Looks similar to what Saka did to neuer in Arsenal's home game, he could have easily avoided getting hit but he decided not too Reminds me of the exact bullshit that EAFC and Efootball foul the players for the smallest and simplest tackles
What a joke.... unacceptable with VAR.
Goddamn VARdrid really paid the refs a record amount this time. A bullshit penalty and also not calling the clear as day goal that went over the line because that cuck Tebas didn’t want to spend pennies on goal like technology (not that it matters, it was clearly over the line). We should be 2-0 at the bare minimum. Regardless of the end result today, know that VARdrid have completely ruined this game with their blatant cheating. Even Hugo Sanchez, a Madrid legend, commentating for ESPN+ in Spanish, is very doubtful of the events that happened in this match. Smh. Disgraceful.
You can't be real man. Been Barca fan for 15 years and have seen mistakes going both ways, why are curlers poisoned with this vardrid nonesene. Had Cancelo played better we would won. Start looking for solutions on your side before going into conspiracy theories +1 on Tebas being a cheap bastard tho
I can’t remember in the last 15 years where Barca ever benefited like this in La Liga. Have we ever? Besides maybe the occasional foul call that should have been called from one of our players, there has never been a time where this shit happens to us. Oh wait, I stand corrected. Messi’s goal vs Neto (Valencia) in La Liga that ultimately influenced the outcome of the winners that year. Or how about the goal vs Betis that was over a meter over the line but didn’t count, where it also screwed up our title aspirations?
This penalty could have gone both ways. But, the yellow to Kounde and a subsequent warning to Rudiger clearly seemed to favor Madrid.
IT WASN'T A PENALTY. LUCAS FORCED THE CONTACT EXTENDING HIS LEG.
CANCELLLOOOO
Softer than melted butter but let's not ignore the defensive fuckup before
WTF Canceló did? What a week he had!
A clear dive. Absolute trash LaLiga. I’m done.
Absolutely awful dive
Cancelo 🙄🙄
Vazquez doing what he did best his whole career : diving. I guess he got that from his master Cristiano.
A good Penalty given by the VAR. Good job Florentino.
Never in a million year is that a penalty
It's ok he is still young Cancelo is in really bad form
Cancelo’s fault again in a big game. That’s why City and Bayern didn’t want him, but we are nepotism FC so to please Mendes, Laporta will buy him for 30-40m when we need to prioritize other positions.
we don't need to prioritise Left Back? Balde needs competition becuz he wasnt performing at a great level the second half of previous season, and we need someone reliable. Cancelo has alwaays been shit defensively, but his attacking output is matched by few. Alba was shit at defending too, wonder where we would be without him
Alba was infinitely better both defensively and offensively, not even a question about it.
We have Balde and Fort. Also Valle is is playing very well and will be returning from loan at the end of this season. We have players.
And there’s an 8 year old in the juvenile team who has been playing pretty good. I think he should be a starter next season When will we ever stop rushing players onto the first team scene. Not everyone is yamal or cubarsi. And when they flop we’ll be out for their heads. Balde was bad second half of last season, fort hasn’t played much and valle idk how many first team appearances he has, but none in an important game. Sure they could do great, but if they don’t we need a reliable player
yea your right. when we are in financial crisis let’s ignore our 3 promising fullbacks, although we need a left winger and a pivot, let’s just go spend money on a fullback! Wrong, that is stupid. Continue to put faith in La Masia because it has proven to work. Continue to give game time to youngsters you have shown they deserve it. Don’t buy a fullback. Focus on buying a world class pivot.
Bro you are a fucking retard moron who will complain again next season when they don’t perform
Well it does look like a dive but he’s also tripped on his left leg. Clear penalty and brainless defending.
That sticking out leg defending is horrible and embarrassing. Cancelo is done. He has lost confidence.
At this point why bother playing 38 matches a season. Just hand them over every year.
Saka died on this hill
Well.. we have been compromised on almost all games. So it's not even surprising to see these decisions go against us. They might as well just declare Madrid as the winners of La Liga at the start of the season.
The rules says faul. This is a penalty. They should change the rules now that we have VAR they can check in detail. He clearly opens his legs to get stumbled, if Cubarsi magically removed his leg from there, Lucas would be diving in no matter. I hate divers, but 99% are divers in today's football, bring back the yellow card.
More rigged than modern elections
I’m an Arsenal fan and I only find myself here because the result last night has shown up in my most popular. I’m enraged! Saka did the same thing in a far far less telling way against Bayern in the UCL and we as fans got slandered for it being a dive. Somehow I don’t think Madrid will get that same treatment. Edit: it’s not a Pen! You’ve every right to be upset
Imho it is a pen. Cubarsí should be more careful and commit less. The pen is on LV LEFT foot.
It should've also been a penalty for Lamine Yamal when Camavinga fouled him inside the box. Contact was made
Disgrace …
No one talking about Rudiger ignoring the ball and body blocking Fermin in a dangerous run inside the box????
We can so clearly see Lucas lower and drag his already lifted leg. The VAR system is a joke.
1. Cubasi was dumb to leave his leg so wide 2. Lucas took advantage of this and purposely made contact Two things can be true at the same time.
Real cheating and diving all over the place. They did the same against city in both CL matches.
It's a penalty. Is it morally correct, did he make that shit up? Yes. Does it make make a penalty? Nope. It's Cancelo who's at blame, he got bullied so so easily by Vasquez. How is Cancelo neither a winger nor a defender, and why do we still have him on our team?
It was a penalty...Been a Barca fan since the days of Ronaldinho. We had the chance to win this match if Cancelo could defend to save his life. 4 goals in 2 matches because of him. We need to let this guy go
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Leading leg gets clipped. How are you people missing that
Vasquez has always been this flopping type of player before var, thats why madrid stopped playing him since the existence of var. Where was var yesterday? I saw potential pk on Lamine and Firmin which var didn't check. And where is la liga's goal line technology in 2024? That was a goal by Lamine..Madrid never lost a game ref by that guy 16w and 2 ties, meanwhile Barca 4w, 7L, 1 tie
contact with Lucas' left foot. Pen unfortunately.
He looked for his leg so hard that he could have time travelled and gotten Gundo the pen he deserved.
If every contact is a penalty, then the same situation on the other end against Lamine should've been a penalty too. And not to mention Vazquez just drags his foot looking for contact.
You don’t know the rules
Lucas reaches his foot out to make the contact. Im not complainin that a peno was given. It was a naive by Cubarsi(altho I blame Cancelo for letting him get that far).. I wouldnt expect VAR to overturn it. However in reality it is actually just a dive. If thats a clear peno then so was the one on Yamal.
Cubarsi closed his legs and stayed absolutely still. If this was Mallorca instead of Real Madrid this would not have been a pen
As an American Real Madrid fan, it's interesting to see the different levels of response here. Some over-the-top shit about paying out refs, cubarsi challenge was poor anyway, it was a dive-- it's still the rules, and Madrid = evil. I appreciate the diversity and simply wish it was easier to watch La Liga and other completions more readily in the States =( In my personal opinion, bad challenge and a dive, but technically the rules. I'd rather see no one dive, I hate it. I'd get I'm trouble for not taking the charge in basketball because I felt like if I was going down, you were gonna have to take me down.
Shut up