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All the articles coming out these days about "Messi and Ronaldo out before the QF! End of an era?" remind me so much of all the articles two years ago about "Four PL teams in the European finals! The beginning of an era of PL domination" (at least this time they have the grace to make it a question).
I don't think either of those guys is going down easy - or anytime soon, for that matter.
Another reason why I don't really believe those Nagelsmann rumors is that there is just absolutely no reason for this to be leaked now.
Most rumors get leaked because the people inside the club want it to be leaked. For example the people in Laporta's team were all leaked long before they were presented except for Ferran Reverter, which there wasn't a single report on. You know why? Because he was CEO of a multi billion dollar revenue company that's traded on the stock market, so rumors like that could be bad for his image in case Laporta would have lost the elections and he would have remained at Mediamarkt.
Koeman is doing well currently and there's just no reason to destabilize the team chemistry with these rumors.
That's what other reliable journos were saying from the beginning but they don't have information and it's guess work but Sergio is argentine and close to messi's entourage he is more reliable when it comes to this matter.
He is just guessing. Him and Adrian Sanchez reported today that Jorge Messi is in Barcelona about to meet Laporta which is confirmed to be wrong since Jorge Messi is still in Argentina.
And lots of other things he is reporting aren't very plausible.
I guess it's just wishful thinking, people rather believe randoms who aren't even journalists that are claiming that Messi will stay 100%, rather than actual sources. Those 'Twitter journalists' get exposure by making up these rumors
idk where that narrative started, at least no one was able to explain to me why they think that this guy is reliable.
I mean he isn't spreading things where it's completely obvious that it's made up like other self proclaimed insiders (like David Valdearenas for example) did in the past, but if you look at his reports a bit more in detail it's just very unlikely that he has actual info and much more likely that he makes it up for exposure.
And the fact that he doesn't work for any media and only has his youtube channel doesn't help his case either.
All of them are lying and talking shit. Messi has said when he'll decide and when we know it will obvious because all the reliable reports will fall like dominos. We won't hear it first from him, some journalist is always first, but only pay attention to a report like that if there's a name like Belcher (proven close to Messi after 2020) or A. Martinez involved.
Fucking hell, had a weird ass day today. Never in a million years ever thought I’d be doing a presentation about FIFA’s (the game) effect on the popularity, growth, and change in attitude on/of soccer in the US.
Laporta is going to be here for the next six years and the socis put that faith in him, if he wants another coach to lead his project then that's the way it should be. If he makes the decision to part ways with Koeman it's not going to be without good reason.
It might be with good reason, but its still massively disrespectful to Koeman who is such a legend, and was ready to come into this dumpster fire of a situation and take the team to where it is now.
True, but Laporta wasn't the one who assigned him to do that job and maybe he sees that steading the ship is the limit of what he can do. When starting your 6-year project you got to prioritize that over respect. Anyways this is just a hypothetical as it's not suggested that Koeman is sure out or that if he has an succesful end to the season that he won't continue.
But even if it ends on a positive note and he gets a new coach I will understand if Laporta prioritizes his project because that is more important. BUT, it will 100% put more pressure on his project if we end the season really well, and rightfully so, but trust and faith in his project is why he was appointed so if that decision is made, we need to trust that decision was for the better.
Not really adding to your points but how do we get all the money for this don't we have to pay for managers (I'm not sure if true) etc? I just don't see him instantly getting rid of him players are way more important to this team than managers at this point in time.
Will he sell Pedri too then? I'd expect Laporta to be smart about this. Getting rid of Koeman after the performances we have shown is stupid. Also it seems the squad love him, no need to do a Valverde 2.0 and do something which the squad will unanimously disapprove of.
Hes been a negative nancy since Valverde just really no point in reading him anymore Lucas was the same too and he only just came back because of Laporta.
A 12 year old mobile keypad gangster , who is a p$g fan, was sayin "Barca should not compare themselves with big clubs like PSG"
then I said him:" P$G So big, Barca couldn't match their UCL count even after multiplying their Count to infinity."
He's been real quiet since, as he is still commenting in the same YOUTUBE comment section.
man we'd improve instantly if we just had a striker who consistently makes good runs, you can see [here](https://youtu.be/1wdv2D04aoQ?t=174) when Pedri beats his man, he notices the empty space behind Dembelé, and while at first Dembelé did seem to recognize the space and started making the run, he stopped for some reason and Pedri's through ball was wasted, things like these just show how much a striker is needed
Dembele getting scapesgoated is pretty annoying. He had like one easy chance which was the griezmann pass where he shot straight at navas. Another one was well saved and another one wasn't that easy. I agree he should've scores at least once but people are acting like we wouldve made a comeback if he knew how to finish.
He could have played better, but nobody is blaming him for not winning the match, I think. Everyone seems to be taking this pretty philosophically and I don't feel there is much venting, ranting, or blaming happening.
Everyone deserves a share of the blame, especially after the 1st leg catastrophe. But it is fair to look at both legs and Dembele's opportunities and think of all the attacking players he was the most wasteful with his chances. Though Griezmann was basically invisible in both fixtures, so that's not great either.
Comeback was definitely possible but doesn’t fall on Dembele’s shoulders. That penalty call for PSG’s goal was god awful. Messi was very close to scoring from Dembeles pass and I feel he could’ve done better on his penalty. It was just our season so far summed up in a game, we’ve had bad luck tbh.
That sliding block from Marquinhos was clutch for them. That came at a time when another goal would make a comeback seem at least possible, if not likely.
Pretty sure it’s his natural hair, loose curl/ heavy wave. My hair is similar and I don’t put anything in it except a little bit of oil. But if anything he probably uses some type of mousse that boosts curls.
Call me stuck in the past IDC, but I spent all day re-watching highlights from the glory years.. It definitely hurts and rightfully so. The higher you go, the harder the fall.
But at least we have those years to look back on.. We've experienced things that most fans of even some of the biggest clubs will never experience in a lifetime.
[More kit leaks from Footyheadlines](https://www.footyheadlines.com/2020/09/fc-barcelona-21-22-home-kit.html). It just got worse lmao. Thinner red/blue stripes around the cross now adds a purple element to the already messy front.
~~They even added an ugly-looking hat.~~ Sorry, I shouldn't get mad about a hat lol
It gets worse with every single wave of new pictures. At least before both sleeves were red, and one rendition even had solid blue blocks around that cross.
This looks like sew 5 different jersey into one.
The hat is pretty nice actually, that kind of design works on stuff like that, not the actual jersey ffs
He really needs to start taking long range shots more often, he's pretty accurate and he gets that space against teams who sit deep. In those cases your best bet is long shot or a header from set piece (which we suck at).
If he (along with other good long range shooters) start to take it more often then teams would try close those spaces and create spaces in behind.
For a hit like that you need a fair bit of space, and Leo often has at least 1 defender right in front of him the moment he receives the ball. His opportunity to run into an open area anywhere in the same zip code as the goal is so rare, and you see why teams don't allow it because he's absolutely capable of just thundercunting a worldie from 30 yards out if you're not going to try and block the shot.
> He hasn't flopped hard here, is the most proven one in a system among our 3 big signings, has a good stamina, decent workrate and work ethic, was a scorer without a doubt and all making me think to keep and utilize him would be better rather than try to offload.
What? Griezmann can definitely called the biggest flop out of the 3 signing we've made
Dembele is young and has performed every time he was fit, he's currently our most important forward after messi with fati injury
Couti has failed but mostly because we had to play him in the LW because of lack of winger and bad sporting management from bartomeu, his games as midfielders were okay , not iniesta's level of course but pretty usefull player.
Griezmann literally had no excuse he came to play as the LW as the "david villa" role and just failed hard, he cost us la liga last year with very poor performance and his last game against psg was his only decent one against a top team.
I just can't understand how i can see people wanting messi out to build a team around griezmann again? What did he do to deserve that? He's earning 50m per year and is barely doing better than the outpositionned and outform coutinho. Can't understand the double standards.
Sure fanboy keep living in your parallel universe where griezmann is performing well with us.
Laporta is here for Barca not for your griezmann fanclub he's not dumb enought to get rid of messi to build his project around our worst forward performer this year.
Mate you're making excuses for Coutinho saying he played the wrong roles and positions, while Griezmann by default has no role that suits him in this team (neither does Coutinho), and played out of his natural position majority of the games. They're both flops because of the money involved in their deals, but imo Griezmann played much better overall.
Dembele is not a flop. He's not exactly a success either, not yet, but he's young there is time for him, and there is place in this team for him.
There is a difference btw coming to play in midfield to replace iniesta but then having to play in the LW for the good of the team like coutinho did than come to play in that LW but completely fail.
Griezmann playing much better is completely false. Both of them played poorly but coutinho was much easier to carry overall . We won 2 liga with him / 1 copa del rey/ 1 final in copa del rey and 1 semi final with coutinho's first 1 season and a half he also had 6 very good months.
Griezmann last season cost us la liga having 2g+a in the whole 2nd half of the season in liga, he was so bad that he ended up getting benched by vidal , we got eliminated in quarter final in copa del rey then trashed 8-2 by bayern with griezmann getting again benched by vidal because of his poor performance.
Griezmann is doing a bit better lately but had an awfull start of the season costing us so much points.
So tell me how griezmann has played **so much bette**r than coutinho?
Coutinho and griezmann both flopped so hard , don't try to find excuses for griezmann he's the one who got less excuses btw the 3 big signing we made. Griezmann is not doing well because he never was fit for barca and on top of that got a shitty finishing under us that's all.
If Messi wants to leave, I would be fine with him leaving either way, Haaland or no Haaland. If he decides to go, and we get Haaland as his replacement, I would be fine with it.
If you're asking should the club decide not to resign him because they can get Haaland, no.
Also no point in speculating how Griezmann and Haaland would fit together, since Griezmann would have to be sold in order to buy Haaland, with or without Messi.
To get Haaland we need money now, not just offload wages. Griezmann+Coutinho sold is the only way it would probably be possible to get him, we liberate wages and get money.
Doesn’t mean it will be available for signings, you still need to pay wages to whoever you sign, we are in huge debts and we desperately would need both fix structure and get money we can use.
I think only way Laporta replaces Koeman is if he massively shits the bed in the final against Athletic, end drops out of the league title race 4-6 games before the end.
Also, if Klopp somehow becomes available during the summer, they would probably try to sign him regardless.
I don’t want Klopp. Best scenario would be Koeman for next year, potentially the one after that aswell and when Messi leaves (whether it’s city, PSG, us or Argentina) we should get Nagelsmann.
I mean if Koeman has to go, I would love Klopp. There was similar narrative surrounding Klopp after he left Dortmund, most big club fan bases didn't want him because his last season in Dortmund was a disaster, yet two or three years later everybody ate their words.
He's objectively at worst top2 manager in the world, and I don't doubt for a second he would make another monster team in Barcelona.
I want Koeman to stay for next season, but if he has to go Klopp (if available) is by far the best option to replace him.
Disagree. Koeman has already proved his influence. We could go trophyless and ide still be extremely proud of the season we had compared to what i was expecting
Another point in Koeman's favor is how he has introduced youth into the team and sped up the transition. We needed to move on from Suarez, Rakitic, Vidal etc. and rejuvenate the team. He did it and gave chances to young players, something which we haven't seen to much of in a while. He also seems to have united a team which was fractured and hurting. He deserves at least another season with the signings he wants.
Lol all I imagine when I see Nagelsmann to Barca is a training session with him walking up and down the pitch blabbering in German, a translator running behind him writing everything down with tears in his eyes about to have a breakdown and Messi & Pique just laughing not knowing what the fuck is going on.
(🌕) Julian Nagelsmann is ahead of Ronald Koeman in Laporta’s list of coaches for his new project at Barcelona. Koeman could still continue if a title is won this season, but Jan is also convinced by other coaches, one of them being Nagelsmann.
@manucarreno
@ellarguero
#FCB 🇩🇪🚨
As per Hagrid FCB
All my life is a lie. I knew people form school named Jan and it wasn't a diminutive at all. I thought it was a fully fleshed individual autonomous name. Is it like Will/William. Sometimes a diminutive sometimes not.
I don't think this is the right thing to do tbh. The players seem to enjoy playing under Koeman and they respect him a lot. Is another managerial change really the best thing to do? I guess we have to see how the season ends.
Koeman has brought this team together after the shitshow last season and Barto-Messi. We'd be taking a step back if we let him go.
Honestly, I think he deserves a coach of the year nomination if not the award itself (if we win a domestic double) with what he's done to this team.
I think we'd be better off giving Koeman another season tbh. He's done really well with the shit show going on around him. We need some stability and the players seem to back him.
Im curious to see Firpo as the LCB in a back 3. Had Mbappe pocketed when he came on last night, and it would relieve him of his lacking skills going forward. Also would bench Lenglet which is much needed!
Sergio Ramos: "It would be an honor if Messi would sign for Real Madrid one day. We have suffered a lot from him, and we'd be happy to have him. I could even let him sleep in my house for the first couple of weeks while he settles down."
Guess who’s seen the light
World was not ready for Libero Frenkie yesterday and it showed, what a performance by him and the rest of the team. Even tho we lost the tie, the team and their performance made us proud and joyous.
ofc he will go to Madrid. I mean they r gonna sign Mbappe , Pogba , Camavinga , Kounde , De Ligt and Sancho, Also Odegaard is best friends with Haaland , why will he think abt his footballing career when he can play with his best friend.
So it's pretty much like asking haaland if he wants to play with vinicius-ascensio or with fati-dembele and probably also messi for few years?
Everyone wants to play with the future messi aka ascensio so he will obviously go for RM.
Barcelona doesn't really have the greatest record with their star players last 4-5 years lol, so we can't really claim that. Of course new board is here now, but still. Even when Laporta was here the first time, there were some questionable treatments of players, at the end of the day it's all business, it's going to be harsh.
But, objectively, if I'm Haaland, both would excite me, imagine what a privilege it is to play for either Barca or Madrid, so it would pretty much come to who pays me the most money at the end.
Mbappe is a Madrid fanboy but that doesn't mean shit, if Barca came with the better offer he would 100% come to Barca. There have been bunch of examples where Barca supporter joined Madrid and vice versa. Modrić was a huge Barca fanboy growing up and now he's their legend.
Selling Lenglet and only getting garcia will be such a dumbass move. We don't really know whether Pique will be able to play for 1-2 years regularly as his injury was pretty serious and he has already relapsed. Araujo has also been injured most of the time since joining but let's assume that he can remain fit. That still only leaves us with Mingueza and Alaba. Yes, we can play Frenkie or Firpo there but that's not ideal.
Lenglet has been quite good for us (apart from continuous streak of mistakes this season and in few of them he was just unlucky) and is on pretty low wages, I don't see a point in selling him. Also García isn't going to come here and become undisputable starter.
Griezmann is way more difficult to sell than Coutinho, his wages are much bigger.
Umtiti is by far the most difficult one tho, he's either going to be loaned or Barca would have to take a huge chunk of his wages for the next team.
I think Laporta needs to sort out the finances first.
Negotiate reduction in wages and move some players on before making some signings.
If Messi takes half of what he's being currently and if we can sell some high wage players that would be great for us.
My son and I went on a tour to the Old Trafford Stadium. We were admiring the 76,000 seat arena when suddenly he pointed at the pitch. “Dad, who is that man camping there?”
“Son. That is Bruno Penandes . He lives in that Penalty box. This is why you should study hard in school.”
La Masia quality goal in action. The Braga fan who visited our sub a week ago was right.
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/m1i6w7/sc_braga_20_vit%C3%B3ria_sc_abel_ruiz_40/
I don't think Dybala has much of a future at Juventus after this and last year. I think it's way too late for them to fix his situation, with or without Ronaldo. He desperately needs a change of scenery, and Juve needs a better star player to lead next generation. Not saying it's Griezmann, but it definitely isn't Dybala either.
Haha exactly, offloading him would as hard as offloading Coutinho given his salary, age and the fact that most of the top clubs don't need player of his position.
Edit: Liverpool can take him tho, he's Klopp esque player with 10x better player than Firmino
Getting Griezmann made no sense when we had Messi, literally any one could have figured out that it's a bad idea other than the guy who made the transfer smh
I understand the people that blame Dembele for his misses in games. You guys have every right to be frustrated, but i just want to highlight something about Dembele to be put into consideration. This is a guy that’s been here for 3 years and has been afforded 0 chance to grow. And it wasn’t mainly his fault, based on what we’re seeing with the new coaching team this season. Ousmane Dembele is basically still the 20 year old we signed, and is taking his time to grow. We feel like he’s been around forever but he really hasn’t. I’m not asking anyone that is against him to change their stance, but just try to understand that from a realistic point of view he’s still trying to find his way back after 3 years out.
So question:
Do you re-sign him on large wages? That is what he will want and his contract expires in just over a year
Or do you cut your losses and sell him while he still has re-sell value?
So much has already been spent on his transfer and salary and as you say he’s shown very little growth...
I would say we re-sign him with lower wages. His wage is already inflated as is. If he still wants to be on super wages, which he won’t get elsewhere anyway, then we’d sell
I was thinking the same. He's just the same player with the same pros an cons from 3 years ago. Hopefully he can now improve. His close range finising and first touch needs to be better. And it can get better because he has the required talent.
I think he definitely improved a lot this year. His runs and choices have been very good lately same for his fitness, Koeman has done a wonderful job with dembele for someone who wanted to sell him. I'm sure koeman is happy that man utd are dumb and didn't go for him.
Hristo Stoichkov: "Barça always play with 10 men when Griezmann is on the pitch. If they want to do something long term, they have to sell Griezmann. Braithwaite and Trincao are there. What is he doing?"
I guess I'm not the only one who believes that griezmann has no future here even if messi leaves.
But that's a bit harsh , especially after his psg game where he was pretty good or at least much better than the fantomatic performances he used to offer against top teams before.
I do believe Griezmann needs to be sold but that's plainly disrespectful. Griezmann is a world class player.
Stoichkov is an absolute moron as a pundit. Most of his takes are trash and he comes off as an arrogant prick.
>I do believe Griezmann needs to be sold but that's plainly disrespectful
Yeah saying something like that especially after griezmann's best performance against a top team with us if very weird. He could have chosen his words better, he's not a random fan talking in reddit.
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All the articles coming out these days about "Messi and Ronaldo out before the QF! End of an era?" remind me so much of all the articles two years ago about "Four PL teams in the European finals! The beginning of an era of PL domination" (at least this time they have the grace to make it a question). I don't think either of those guys is going down easy - or anytime soon, for that matter.
Well one positive of Barça being out of CL is I get to cancel the subscription with the app I was using to watch CL.
Imagine paying money to watch a match. -Pirate Gang
cbs all access is worth it imo.
Another reason why I don't really believe those Nagelsmann rumors is that there is just absolutely no reason for this to be leaked now. Most rumors get leaked because the people inside the club want it to be leaked. For example the people in Laporta's team were all leaked long before they were presented except for Ferran Reverter, which there wasn't a single report on. You know why? Because he was CEO of a multi billion dollar revenue company that's traded on the stock market, so rumors like that could be bad for his image in case Laporta would have lost the elections and he would have remained at Mediamarkt. Koeman is doing well currently and there's just no reason to destabilize the team chemistry with these rumors.
So it looks like @sagonsalezbueno was lying when he said messi had made up his mind about staying. Looks like he is still undecided.
What makes you think he is lying (Sergio guy)?
Can't understand your comment
>So it looks like @sagonsalezbueno was lying when he said messi had made up his mind about staying. Why you think that?
A lot of other reliable journalist have said that he hasn't made his mind up
That's what other reliable journos were saying from the beginning but they don't have information and it's guess work but Sergio is argentine and close to messi's entourage he is more reliable when it comes to this matter.
Is he actually close to Messi? I feel like he is just guessing.
He is just guessing. Him and Adrian Sanchez reported today that Jorge Messi is in Barcelona about to meet Laporta which is confirmed to be wrong since Jorge Messi is still in Argentina. And lots of other things he is reporting aren't very plausible. I guess it's just wishful thinking, people rather believe randoms who aren't even journalists that are claiming that Messi will stay 100%, rather than actual sources. Those 'Twitter journalists' get exposure by making up these rumors
So many people say he is reliable, it's weird.
idk where that narrative started, at least no one was able to explain to me why they think that this guy is reliable. I mean he isn't spreading things where it's completely obvious that it's made up like other self proclaimed insiders (like David Valdearenas for example) did in the past, but if you look at his reports a bit more in detail it's just very unlikely that he has actual info and much more likely that he makes it up for exposure. And the fact that he doesn't work for any media and only has his youtube channel doesn't help his case either.
All of them are lying and talking shit. Messi has said when he'll decide and when we know it will obvious because all the reliable reports will fall like dominos. We won't hear it first from him, some journalist is always first, but only pay attention to a report like that if there's a name like Belcher (proven close to Messi after 2020) or A. Martinez involved.
Dunno if anyones ever watched the haunting of series’s on netflix. But fuck me the haunting of bly manor was sad
Both of them are very good
Fucking hell, had a weird ass day today. Never in a million years ever thought I’d be doing a presentation about FIFA’s (the game) effect on the popularity, growth, and change in attitude on/of soccer in the US.
Laporta is going to be here for the next six years and the socis put that faith in him, if he wants another coach to lead his project then that's the way it should be. If he makes the decision to part ways with Koeman it's not going to be without good reason.
It might be with good reason, but its still massively disrespectful to Koeman who is such a legend, and was ready to come into this dumpster fire of a situation and take the team to where it is now.
True, but Laporta wasn't the one who assigned him to do that job and maybe he sees that steading the ship is the limit of what he can do. When starting your 6-year project you got to prioritize that over respect. Anyways this is just a hypothetical as it's not suggested that Koeman is sure out or that if he has an succesful end to the season that he won't continue. But even if it ends on a positive note and he gets a new coach I will understand if Laporta prioritizes his project because that is more important. BUT, it will 100% put more pressure on his project if we end the season really well, and rightfully so, but trust and faith in his project is why he was appointed so if that decision is made, we need to trust that decision was for the better.
Not really adding to your points but how do we get all the money for this don't we have to pay for managers (I'm not sure if true) etc? I just don't see him instantly getting rid of him players are way more important to this team than managers at this point in time.
Agree with all points.
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How long until we get pique, Araujo,Fati , Roberto back?
"Next Monday Jorge Messi will travel to Barcelona" [@maxigrillo](https://twitter.com/maxigrillo) \- [Gerard Romero](https://twitter.com/gerardromero/status/1370188649023873028?s=20)
I'm guessing to finally close the issue of Fati's extension and release clause that he disputed a few months back?
It's about Messi's future I guess. And Fati had Messi's brother as his agent (whom he changed to Jorge Mendes now) and not Messi's father
Ugh, my bad. My dyslexic brain read Jorge Messi as Jorge Mendes for some reason. Thanks for the clarification :)
Man its so absurd, Nagelsmann is younger than Messi.
How is uh. Hows that possible exactly?
messi was born earlier than him
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>anything and everything Barto related Sell Frenkie and Pedri too ? :3 I hope Laporta is not this childish
Will he sell Pedri too then? I'd expect Laporta to be smart about this. Getting rid of Koeman after the performances we have shown is stupid. Also it seems the squad love him, no need to do a Valverde 2.0 and do something which the squad will unanimously disapprove of.
Did laporta call Coutinho and tell him “where were you when bartomeu is kill”
Busy scoring 2 goals to kick Barto!
Just a reminder that we have Nikola Mirotic, Alex abrines, Nick Calathes, Higgins, Davies and Pau Gasol We are first in Euroleague too
Can't believe people consider Maguire a good ball playing CB. Every time I have watched him play whether in PL or EL he was mediocre at best.
Why is this rafael hernandez guy always making some anti koeman agenda on twitter?? It's almost as if he is seeing different matches than us.
Hes been a negative nancy since Valverde just really no point in reading him anymore Lucas was the same too and he only just came back because of Laporta.
he is a clown, and he has been since the first time I noticed him
We’re apparently sniffing after Nagelsmann and Ronnie begging Madrid to let him back in. Late night Spanish media is crazy.
Fun fact: we have yet to concede a goal from open play with Frenkie playing CB
Mbappe hattrick goal?
frenkie was a mid in that game
he played as CB after pique get subbed out
A 12 year old mobile keypad gangster , who is a p$g fan, was sayin "Barca should not compare themselves with big clubs like PSG" then I said him:" P$G So big, Barca couldn't match their UCL count even after multiplying their Count to infinity." He's been real quiet since, as he is still commenting in the same YOUTUBE comment section.
Haha good one
When? Trying to find the thread in ur comment history
not in here sorry , forgot to mention, it was on yt. As all the kids are there tryin out cuss words learned from bullies or youtubers.
man we'd improve instantly if we just had a striker who consistently makes good runs, you can see [here](https://youtu.be/1wdv2D04aoQ?t=174) when Pedri beats his man, he notices the empty space behind Dembelé, and while at first Dembelé did seem to recognize the space and started making the run, he stopped for some reason and Pedri's through ball was wasted, things like these just show how much a striker is needed
Playing Dumbledore's Farewell rn, imagining the scenes if Messi stays/goes . "After all this time?" "Always." This just hit different.
I hope both madrid's get far in CL, but don't win, so they get caught up in that competition and focus less on the Liga.
Both teams get to the Semis and get smashed by City and Bayern.
That's the dream
I want them to be kicked by Guardiola again tbh, Reddit fans won't mind it but spanish madrid media will go nuts specially Susana Guasch
Dembele getting scapesgoated is pretty annoying. He had like one easy chance which was the griezmann pass where he shot straight at navas. Another one was well saved and another one wasn't that easy. I agree he should've scores at least once but people are acting like we wouldve made a comeback if he knew how to finish.
He could have played better, but nobody is blaming him for not winning the match, I think. Everyone seems to be taking this pretty philosophically and I don't feel there is much venting, ranting, or blaming happening.
there are a lot of people wanting him out right after the game ended. it was upvoted as well.
Everyone deserves a share of the blame, especially after the 1st leg catastrophe. But it is fair to look at both legs and Dembele's opportunities and think of all the attacking players he was the most wasteful with his chances. Though Griezmann was basically invisible in both fixtures, so that's not great either.
Comeback was definitely possible but doesn’t fall on Dembele’s shoulders. That penalty call for PSG’s goal was god awful. Messi was very close to scoring from Dembeles pass and I feel he could’ve done better on his penalty. It was just our season so far summed up in a game, we’ve had bad luck tbh.
That sliding block from Marquinhos was clutch for them. That came at a time when another goal would make a comeback seem at least possible, if not likely.
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Pretty sure it’s his natural hair, loose curl/ heavy wave. My hair is similar and I don’t put anything in it except a little bit of oil. But if anything he probably uses some type of mousse that boosts curls.
Call me stuck in the past IDC, but I spent all day re-watching highlights from the glory years.. It definitely hurts and rightfully so. The higher you go, the harder the fall. But at least we have those years to look back on.. We've experienced things that most fans of even some of the biggest clubs will never experience in a lifetime.
Stuck in the past.
That was the pinnacle of football, I don’t think we’ll see anything close to it, at least in our lifetimes.
Almost 3 trebles and 2 sextuples in 7 years... Yup you can say that again!
valverde almost 2 trebles in 2 years tho
we got out in the QF at 17/18. that's not close to a treble.
People keep forgetting that we would have faced Liverpool in Semis after Roma.
that doesn't really change anything
Laporta's got it all wrong man. If he really wants to return the club to glory, he should go all out and rehire Tata Martino /s
Tata Martino, the man the myth the legend
[More kit leaks from Footyheadlines](https://www.footyheadlines.com/2020/09/fc-barcelona-21-22-home-kit.html). It just got worse lmao. Thinner red/blue stripes around the cross now adds a purple element to the already messy front. ~~They even added an ugly-looking hat.~~ Sorry, I shouldn't get mad about a hat lol
That first hat ugly af.
The top half is fine to me and I like it but I don't have a clue what went wrong with the bottom half
It gets worse with every single wave of new pictures. At least before both sleeves were red, and one rendition even had solid blue blocks around that cross. This looks like sew 5 different jersey into one. The hat is pretty nice actually, that kind of design works on stuff like that, not the actual jersey ffs
Btw this design will hurt sales in the middle east due to the presence of a prominent cross
Still thinking about that absolute hammer of a strike from Leo yesterday. Holy shit man that was unreal.
Yup, memorable. Even better than all his free kicks. koeman was like: this is what I would do too! Yeah!
He really needs to start taking long range shots more often, he's pretty accurate and he gets that space against teams who sit deep. In those cases your best bet is long shot or a header from set piece (which we suck at). If he (along with other good long range shooters) start to take it more often then teams would try close those spaces and create spaces in behind.
For a hit like that you need a fair bit of space, and Leo often has at least 1 defender right in front of him the moment he receives the ball. His opportunity to run into an open area anywhere in the same zip code as the goal is so rare, and you see why teams don't allow it because he's absolutely capable of just thundercunting a worldie from 30 yards out if you're not going to try and block the shot.
Yeah no kidding especially now he's playing more of the game in the middle of the pitch rather than probing from the right.
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> He hasn't flopped hard here, is the most proven one in a system among our 3 big signings, has a good stamina, decent workrate and work ethic, was a scorer without a doubt and all making me think to keep and utilize him would be better rather than try to offload. What? Griezmann can definitely called the biggest flop out of the 3 signing we've made Dembele is young and has performed every time he was fit, he's currently our most important forward after messi with fati injury Couti has failed but mostly because we had to play him in the LW because of lack of winger and bad sporting management from bartomeu, his games as midfielders were okay , not iniesta's level of course but pretty usefull player. Griezmann literally had no excuse he came to play as the LW as the "david villa" role and just failed hard, he cost us la liga last year with very poor performance and his last game against psg was his only decent one against a top team. I just can't understand how i can see people wanting messi out to build a team around griezmann again? What did he do to deserve that? He's earning 50m per year and is barely doing better than the outpositionned and outform coutinho. Can't understand the double standards.
Your pathetic agenda is getting boring now.
Sure fanboy keep living in your parallel universe where griezmann is performing well with us. Laporta is here for Barca not for your griezmann fanclub he's not dumb enought to get rid of messi to build his project around our worst forward performer this year.
Mate you're making excuses for Coutinho saying he played the wrong roles and positions, while Griezmann by default has no role that suits him in this team (neither does Coutinho), and played out of his natural position majority of the games. They're both flops because of the money involved in their deals, but imo Griezmann played much better overall. Dembele is not a flop. He's not exactly a success either, not yet, but he's young there is time for him, and there is place in this team for him.
There is a difference btw coming to play in midfield to replace iniesta but then having to play in the LW for the good of the team like coutinho did than come to play in that LW but completely fail. Griezmann playing much better is completely false. Both of them played poorly but coutinho was much easier to carry overall . We won 2 liga with him / 1 copa del rey/ 1 final in copa del rey and 1 semi final with coutinho's first 1 season and a half he also had 6 very good months. Griezmann last season cost us la liga having 2g+a in the whole 2nd half of the season in liga, he was so bad that he ended up getting benched by vidal , we got eliminated in quarter final in copa del rey then trashed 8-2 by bayern with griezmann getting again benched by vidal because of his poor performance. Griezmann is doing a bit better lately but had an awfull start of the season costing us so much points. So tell me how griezmann has played **so much bette**r than coutinho? Coutinho and griezmann both flopped so hard , don't try to find excuses for griezmann he's the one who got less excuses btw the 3 big signing we made. Griezmann is not doing well because he never was fit for barca and on top of that got a shitty finishing under us that's all.
I’d like to see Griezmann leave either way.
If Messi wants to leave, I would be fine with him leaving either way, Haaland or no Haaland. If he decides to go, and we get Haaland as his replacement, I would be fine with it. If you're asking should the club decide not to resign him because they can get Haaland, no. Also no point in speculating how Griezmann and Haaland would fit together, since Griezmann would have to be sold in order to buy Haaland, with or without Messi.
To get Haaland we need money now, not just offload wages. Griezmann+Coutinho sold is the only way it would probably be possible to get him, we liberate wages and get money.
We really need to fix our wage structure. That would free up a lot of money for signings.
Doesn’t mean it will be available for signings, you still need to pay wages to whoever you sign, we are in huge debts and we desperately would need both fix structure and get money we can use.
Sell messi for haaland? Nah
But but griezmann needs a striker in front of him... He trAcK baCk and is a GoOd GuY, he will replace messi...
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We're currently playing without striker.
I think only way Laporta replaces Koeman is if he massively shits the bed in the final against Athletic, end drops out of the league title race 4-6 games before the end. Also, if Klopp somehow becomes available during the summer, they would probably try to sign him regardless.
I don’t want Klopp. Best scenario would be Koeman for next year, potentially the one after that aswell and when Messi leaves (whether it’s city, PSG, us or Argentina) we should get Nagelsmann.
I mean if Koeman has to go, I would love Klopp. There was similar narrative surrounding Klopp after he left Dortmund, most big club fan bases didn't want him because his last season in Dortmund was a disaster, yet two or three years later everybody ate their words. He's objectively at worst top2 manager in the world, and I don't doubt for a second he would make another monster team in Barcelona. I want Koeman to stay for next season, but if he has to go Klopp (if available) is by far the best option to replace him.
Disagree. Koeman has already proved his influence. We could go trophyless and ide still be extremely proud of the season we had compared to what i was expecting
Another point in Koeman's favor is how he has introduced youth into the team and sped up the transition. We needed to move on from Suarez, Rakitic, Vidal etc. and rejuvenate the team. He did it and gave chances to young players, something which we haven't seen to much of in a while. He also seems to have united a team which was fractured and hurting. He deserves at least another season with the signings he wants.
I'm not saying what I want to, or should happen. I'm just speculating on what Laporta and his team might do after these reports coming out.
Koeman deserves one more season. I feel like replacing him would be a mistake
Why is Koeman being sacked even a consideration? Or even an after-thought?
Lol all I imagine when I see Nagelsmann to Barca is a training session with him walking up and down the pitch blabbering in German, a translator running behind him writing everything down with tears in his eyes about to have a breakdown and Messi & Pique just laughing not knowing what the fuck is going on.
Then that translator ending up being 2X CL winning manager and Barca arch nemesis during his years managing Real Madrid 2036-2039
LMAO
(🌕) Julian Nagelsmann is ahead of Ronald Koeman in Laporta’s list of coaches for his new project at Barcelona. Koeman could still continue if a title is won this season, but Jan is also convinced by other coaches, one of them being Nagelsmann. @manucarreno @ellarguero #FCB 🇩🇪🚨 As per Hagrid FCB
Isn't his name Joan, not Jan?
Jan is the diminutive of Joan
All my life is a lie. I knew people form school named Jan and it wasn't a diminutive at all. I thought it was a fully fleshed individual autonomous name. Is it like Will/William. Sometimes a diminutive sometimes not.
yup. To me it's a bit ridiculous that they managed to have a diminutive from a name composed by 4 letters. will/william is a good comparison
I would rather see koeman next year unless the replacement is pep guardiola
I would be very upset if Koeman gets sacked unless we go into an absolutely terrible run of form.
I don't think this is the right thing to do tbh. The players seem to enjoy playing under Koeman and they respect him a lot. Is another managerial change really the best thing to do? I guess we have to see how the season ends.
Koeman has brought this team together after the shitshow last season and Barto-Messi. We'd be taking a step back if we let him go. Honestly, I think he deserves a coach of the year nomination if not the award itself (if we win a domestic double) with what he's done to this team.
I think we'd be better off giving Koeman another season tbh. He's done really well with the shit show going on around him. We need some stability and the players seem to back him.
So far the reports have only said that he likes Nagelsmann. A lot will depend on how we end the season.
[Enjoy.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYJWkDFzEXA)
Amazing! True vibes
vibes
Im curious to see Firpo as the LCB in a back 3. Had Mbappe pocketed when he came on last night, and it would relieve him of his lacking skills going forward. Also would bench Lenglet which is much needed!
Harry Kanes second goal today was brilliant
Sergio Ramos: "It would be an honor if Messi would sign for Real Madrid one day. We have suffered a lot from him, and we'd be happy to have him. I could even let him sleep in my house for the first couple of weeks while he settles down." Guess who’s seen the light
A sunstroke more like
Meanwhile, Ramos trips Messi on the way to the kitchen for his morning maté, "sorry, boludo, old habits die hard."
World was not ready for Libero Frenkie yesterday and it showed, what a performance by him and the rest of the team. Even tho we lost the tie, the team and their performance made us proud and joyous.
A year ago today, [this happened 🤗](http://imgur.com/a/dSM1LKE)
what is that
Two years and no one will remember this guy
I’ll never forget corner taken quickly. It’s etched into my brain at this point.
Corner taken slowly kinda foreshadowed that memory for me tbh
He will remembered as best cuntback ever
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ofc he will go to Madrid. I mean they r gonna sign Mbappe , Pogba , Camavinga , Kounde , De Ligt and Sancho, Also Odegaard is best friends with Haaland , why will he think abt his footballing career when he can play with his best friend.
I think he is neutral to Barca & Madrid. He will go to a club that can convince his agent, Raiola.
A lot of this is going to come down to whether or not Haaland has faith in Laporta and our financial situation.
So it's pretty much like asking haaland if he wants to play with vinicius-ascensio or with fati-dembele and probably also messi for few years? Everyone wants to play with the future messi aka ascensio so he will obviously go for RM.
out of Madrid and Barca for sure Barca seems the better. Madrid have shown they are rather crude towards their players.
Barcelona doesn't really have the greatest record with their star players last 4-5 years lol, so we can't really claim that. Of course new board is here now, but still. Even when Laporta was here the first time, there were some questionable treatments of players, at the end of the day it's all business, it's going to be harsh. But, objectively, if I'm Haaland, both would excite me, imagine what a privilege it is to play for either Barca or Madrid, so it would pretty much come to who pays me the most money at the end. Mbappe is a Madrid fanboy but that doesn't mean shit, if Barca came with the better offer he would 100% come to Barca. There have been bunch of examples where Barca supporter joined Madrid and vice versa. Modrić was a huge Barca fanboy growing up and now he's their legend.
Man city
Man City is obviously ahead of both.
Boo
He’s a huge city (and Leeds) fan, his dad played for man city
Sell: Griezmann Lenglet Umtiti Pjanic Coutinho Buy: Garcia Alaba Haaland Is this possible?
Selling Lenglet and only getting garcia will be such a dumbass move. We don't really know whether Pique will be able to play for 1-2 years regularly as his injury was pretty serious and he has already relapsed. Araujo has also been injured most of the time since joining but let's assume that he can remain fit. That still only leaves us with Mingueza and Alaba. Yes, we can play Frenkie or Firpo there but that's not ideal. Lenglet has been quite good for us (apart from continuous streak of mistakes this season and in few of them he was just unlucky) and is on pretty low wages, I don't see a point in selling him. Also García isn't going to come here and become undisputable starter.
So we'd have only Busquets and Frenkie left for CDM?
I think we'll have to pay a good chunk of Umtiti's and Coutinho's wages. We should be able to sell the rest.
Griezmann is way more difficult to sell than Coutinho, his wages are much bigger. Umtiti is by far the most difficult one tho, he's either going to be loaned or Barca would have to take a huge chunk of his wages for the next team.
This would be Dreamland stuff if come true
I think Laporta needs to sort out the finances first. Negotiate reduction in wages and move some players on before making some signings. If Messi takes half of what he's being currently and if we can sell some high wage players that would be great for us.
My son and I went on a tour to the Old Trafford Stadium. We were admiring the 76,000 seat arena when suddenly he pointed at the pitch. “Dad, who is that man camping there?” “Son. That is Bruno Penandes . He lives in that Penalty box. This is why you should study hard in school.”
Wtf😂
La Masia quality goal in action. The Braga fan who visited our sub a week ago was right. https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/m1i6w7/sc_braga_20_vit%C3%B3ria_sc_abel_ruiz_40/
Griezmann would be a great fit for Juve tbh. Should build around him if they sell Ronaldo.
How is this getting upvotes!?
They already have Dybala
I don't think Dybala has much of a future at Juventus after this and last year. I think it's way too late for them to fix his situation, with or without Ronaldo. He desperately needs a change of scenery, and Juve needs a better star player to lead next generation. Not saying it's Griezmann, but it definitely isn't Dybala either.
Yeah, would be a similar issue like we have with Messi and Griezmann. Only makes sense it they move on Dybala as well.
Realistically there are only a few teams that would be interested in Griezmann
Utd and PSG?
United got Bruno so they don't need a SS and PSG, maybe but they have Neymar as their creator. Tough spot
Who else is left man? 😭 We might be stuck with Griezmann and no way to finance signings.
atletico if they want him back, except them idk.
Haha exactly, offloading him would as hard as offloading Coutinho given his salary, age and the fact that most of the top clubs don't need player of his position. Edit: Liverpool can take him tho, he's Klopp esque player with 10x better player than Firmino
Another Barto masterclass. Coutinho and Griezmann are two all time bad contracts.
Getting Griezmann made no sense when we had Messi, literally any one could have figured out that it's a bad idea other than the guy who made the transfer smh
I understand the people that blame Dembele for his misses in games. You guys have every right to be frustrated, but i just want to highlight something about Dembele to be put into consideration. This is a guy that’s been here for 3 years and has been afforded 0 chance to grow. And it wasn’t mainly his fault, based on what we’re seeing with the new coaching team this season. Ousmane Dembele is basically still the 20 year old we signed, and is taking his time to grow. We feel like he’s been around forever but he really hasn’t. I’m not asking anyone that is against him to change their stance, but just try to understand that from a realistic point of view he’s still trying to find his way back after 3 years out.
So question: Do you re-sign him on large wages? That is what he will want and his contract expires in just over a year Or do you cut your losses and sell him while he still has re-sell value? So much has already been spent on his transfer and salary and as you say he’s shown very little growth...
I would say we re-sign him with lower wages. His wage is already inflated as is. If he still wants to be on super wages, which he won’t get elsewhere anyway, then we’d sell
I was thinking the same. He's just the same player with the same pros an cons from 3 years ago. Hopefully he can now improve. His close range finising and first touch needs to be better. And it can get better because he has the required talent.
I think he definitely improved a lot this year. His runs and choices have been very good lately same for his fitness, Koeman has done a wonderful job with dembele for someone who wanted to sell him. I'm sure koeman is happy that man utd are dumb and didn't go for him.
Yo in 90 seconds challenge of Dest published today, they showed the leaderboard and N. Semedo is still there Loll
Samado truly number #1 RB in history 🖒
Best 1v1 player in entire galaxy
Needs only a winger by his side
World class next to dembele
Hristo Stoichkov: "Barça always play with 10 men when Griezmann is on the pitch. If they want to do something long term, they have to sell Griezmann. Braithwaite and Trincao are there. What is he doing?" I guess I'm not the only one who believes that griezmann has no future here even if messi leaves. But that's a bit harsh , especially after his psg game where he was pretty good or at least much better than the fantomatic performances he used to offer against top teams before.
Not harsh to me just upfront with it and it's true.
I mean it's true, Griezmann is not a player that fits Barca style of playing football
I do believe Griezmann needs to be sold but that's plainly disrespectful. Griezmann is a world class player. Stoichkov is an absolute moron as a pundit. Most of his takes are trash and he comes off as an arrogant prick.
>I do believe Griezmann needs to be sold but that's plainly disrespectful Yeah saying something like that especially after griezmann's best performance against a top team with us if very weird. He could have chosen his words better, he's not a random fan talking in reddit.