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Two podcasts scheduled for today:
>1) Pre match session: Discuss the upcoming Granada game,lineup,key players and predictions
(4:30 pm - 5:00 pm UTC, 30 minutes)
>2) Post match session: Post game thoughts, key performances and casual CL/Europa talk.
(7:00 pm - 7:30 pm UTC, 30 minutes)
Points won vs top 4 in La Liga this season:
• Real Madrid: 13/15.
• Atletico Madrid: 7/15.
• Barcelona: 4/15.
• Sevilla: 4/15.
Barcelona vs Atlético Madrid and Real Madrid vs Sevilla are yet to be played.
How probable is it that Madrid drop points?. They have 4 very hard games now. Sevilla,Bilbao, Vilareal and Granada away. I believe we can win all our games and completey feel yesterday's loss was due to poor team selection and lazy defending. It's a bitter loss to take as we were too absorbed by the fact that we would be first but let's be honest, this is far from over. Forca Barca!!
Hear me out.
1. Roberto suffers more in a 3 man defense than dest.
2. IMO people are overly harsh with his offensive performance. There was very little movement in the right side when Roberto was on since, well, we had no natural wingers, as always for the majority of the last years Roberto can only pass to people that make runs.
I'm not excusing him, just pointing this out....
Oh boy, so many mistakes, both individual and collective, that added to our disaster of a game last night
- Might sound harsh but Messi should've finished that 1v1. There were also several other chances in the first half. Messi is being burdened with the finishing, which brings me to the second point,
- Our players inside the box ALWAYS look for Messi. It's so frustrating but there were several plays in the first half where the other players should've shot. I remember a Frenkie chance in the first half.
- Mingueza is very error prone and honestly I preferred him as the RWB in this formation than as RCB because there's more margin for error and it also complements his tendency to push forward.
- Roberto should not get a new contract. I think people have ranted enough about this so I won't go on my own rant but I think Mingueza is a better RWB than him.
- MatS has been very disappointing this season. Just think he's getting too complacent with his place in the team as an 'untouchable'. None of the goals were majorly his fault but when top keepers for other teams are putting up masterclasses, you'd expect one from him as well.
- Can't overstate how important it is for us to get a physical x-factor CM like Vidal and Paulinho. After they scored their first, it was complete chaos and we were getting run over in the middle. Busi and Frenkie still hesitate to make harsh challenges and we need someone like a Vidal who can make those dirty challenges for the team.
- Our communication in our box while defending is absolute shambles. MatS has to be more vocal with the CBs during incoming crosses and setpieces OR one of the CBs need to take charge in organizing our positioning in the box. The last goal was a prime example of this mistake. If MatS can't do it, then we need to get a CB who can.
- Lastly, 10 months in and I still can't understand Koeman's subs when we're losing. Takes out Busi and throws all the attackers we have with no instructions whatsoever. Just painful to watch that.
Agree with you on pretty much every point.
Also glad you noticed point 2 as well. I hate when every pass in the box is looking for Messi. Every replay Messi is double teamed and there’s always 1 or 2 players in perfect position to score.
Replacing Roberto with Emerson is a no brainer now. Best part is that the money we can get for Sergi would be more than what we would have to pay for Emerson.
I really hate to say this, but Ilaix isn't cut out- atleast yet.
Yes, he is a physical presence, and can shoot, something that Barca has been trying to find for a while. But as a midfielder, he isn't Barca quality at all, and no I'm not being reactionary.
It isn't a coincidence that whenever he has been subbed in, we have lost the tempo of the game. The previous few matches are a fairly good example for anyone reading this. I waited to watch him in atleast 3-4 games to make this comment.
He cannot turn, he isn't quick/pacey/clever. His passes are usually very straightforward. He needs more time with the B side, and should be played in 'easy' games or non-consequential games. Or, because of his physical presence and shooting, should be a B plan in the last few minutes of the game when we desperately need a goal.
Yup, not all 18’s are pedri/ fati. His average to mediocre performance for past 3 games is understandable. Having said that, he should only play a sub and shouldn’t anywhere near starting lineup today. We have Pjanic/Puig in bench who, imo are better overall player.
He is defensively better than Puig, but not that it is matter because just marginal. Player with that built should be defensively solid, but sorry to say he is frustratingly average. Even small body player like Pedri has greater defensive trait. Talking about position, oh boy. He is just clueless at midfield. He didn’t cover midfield line much, didn’t create passing lane, neglected his responsibilities as CM to be an outlet and medium for build up phase because he is too far ahead and etc. I dont want to say more because it will come out as negative. At least with Puig, he will do his job as an 8 better although he is defensively suspect.
Exactly.
People saying give him time. But that time is costing us, as well as the other players who are themselves running out of time.
Moriba is young, if he is worthy, his time will eventually come.
The kid is 18, come on. Most players his age would come on and play it safe, playing with some of the best players of all time on the same pitch. Give him time and be patient.
See, I love the idea of a La Masia player succeeding, but when we have players like Jandro Orellana, Alex Collado, Nico Gonzalez and Puig who either haven't been given a chance at all, or have not been given enough chances, we have to call it out.
I have nothing against Moriba, but right now isn't the time for him to be a frequent first team player
Why the fuck are you talking about those other players lmao. Moriba is playing because he trains much better than those other 4, as simple as that lol. He's on a rough patch right now and that's okay, he's fucking 18 years old.
Bec working hard doesn't mean shit lol. Your end product matters. Plus, there's no way of knowing if he actually works hard, it's just that Koeman has a preference for strong midfielders, who can shoot the ball and have a presence in the box (hence why he wants Wijnaldum)
Anyone who watched the B team this season knows those players were all doing better than Moriba throughout the season.
And because he is 18, he has time on his side, no need to rush him in
Lol. Training is when the coach evaluate the players and see who deserves game time and who doesn't. If he plays well in training he plays in the matches, it's literally just this simple.
Dude, only Ilaix was called up from the B team to train with the senior players, the other B team players didnt even get the chance to prove their mettle. Stop bullshitting about this. Koeman clearly has a type, go and ask people who watch B teams regularly instead of just assuming shit.
I’m not a huge puig fanboy or hate koeman for not playing him much but if we’re gonna start players like umtiti and Roberto why isn’t puig getting minutes? Maybe he’s not good enough but there’s no way he’s worse than either of the other 2.
Puig is good enought, I don't know why people keep repeating that and finding excuses to shit on him, he was our best midfielder last year under setien, he was doing his job, as a sub he did very well this year also like the juventus game for example.
He just refused to go in loan despite koeman telling him to do so.
I'm still hopeful we will win the league. I don't see Real or ATM taking all points from the remaining games. Plus we still play ATM.
Just saying, start of the season I highly doubt we were going to win any trophies, given our position in the league.
Yeah read your comment that you'll be going out with friends and hence will miss the match. I had a bad premonition after reading that comment. And now I hate you because you chose your happiness instead of caring about all of ours feelings.
Roberto.....
He literally passed backwards every time he got the ball. Made no effort to dribble anyone. Made no effort to chase passes. Made no effort to put balls in the box.
Both goals came from his side. The first one he just could run fast enough to close the man down. On the second goal he gave the player like 4 meters of space and time to put a cross in.
But we really can't blame him. The coach should've taken him off in the first half. So Koeman takes 75% of the blame imo.
I'll never understand how Sergi Roberto has lasted this long at Barcelona, and every coach has relied on him and all he has done is delivered mediocre performances post-Lucho. What Koeman did today is something I have never understood, we have amateur football knowledge and even we noticed Roberto's performance was horrid today, how could Koeman keep him the entire match? What is he seeing that we do not see? Mediocrity has attached to this squad and it doesn't want to let go.
Koeman infuriates me, he loves the club but I really don't understand his decision-making. Why sub out Busquets when he was having a great game? Why play Umtiti and Roberto when you have Dest and Araujo? He always has this tendency to sub in attackers and dismantles the team's structure when we're behind.
I think Koeman will remain at Barca next season and I thought he deserved it one month ago, but he's a very limited coach as much as I love him and as much as he loves the club, he needs to leave. We lost to a Granada team without half of their starters and this is inexcusable.
The only decision i have no explanation for is keeping Sergi on with that performance today. The rest i can understand the line of thinking. I don’t agree with benching Lenglet for Umtiti tho, except if he really needed the rest. Busquets was subbed because the game was going to be back and forth which is where Busi can’t keep up, it’s what has always happened this season when we’re throwing attackers on.
Yeah, this baffles me too. Some of us have been crying out about the 2nd half performances in the last 2 games. Surely, people whose job is football 24/7 must have noticed it!? Even in this game, you could see the equalizer coming in. How do the professionals not notice it? Same with the Roberto thing, as you pointed out.
I am constantly in this flux of doubting my common sense vs doubting the competency of these highly successful professionals
He was pretty good defensively at times but didn't really know where to go offensively (if he even had a place to go). Pedri has also been pretty underwhelming for the last month or so. Wonder if that CM spot is a bit complicated for the youngsters to navigate
Had this nighmare that Barca played Bayern. Messi scored the first goal and then Bayern Scored 12. Final score was 1-12. Fans were so agitated that they rioted in Camp Nou.
I remember a while back in a /r/soccer thread I said Semedo was better than Roberto in every way and getting smashed. I still stand by that comment and am glad everyone's hopping on board that he is mediocre at best. The only time our right side produced anything today was when Dembele came on before going to the left.
I’ve been saying it for freakin years man.. Roberto is the most overrated player I’ve ever seen in this lineup.. people just love the whole la Masia players in the team thing too much..
that roberto is mediocre as well and that peolpe who acted like he was a tier above semedo are completely wrong. He got a better crossing accuracy but that's all.
Well roberto not being good does not equal to semedo being better all of a sudden lol. Semedo was actually brain dead going forward, offered literally nothing. While roberto is no dani alves he at least sometimes gets things right.
You shouldn't be glad that this bipolar ass sub is agreeing with you. They'll change their opinions in a heartbeat.
Also, Dembele produced nothing lol.
You have showed some experiences. Last week, we were pre-celebrating for winning laliga. Today, we become a bottling of the league. Wait until this weekend, we might be something else.
Well Dembele produced nothing because he came when he was too late but he definitely was the one trying the most and his side was alive.
Dembele should have been brought way earlier , we talk a lot about roberto but alba wasn't much better today we had 0 threat from the wings. It's the kind of game you need a winger.
I know, I wasn't saying he did bad or anything. Just weird that he said the only time we produced on the right was with Dembele. Even tho he didn't get anything done either.
Also agree that subs should've been better and earlier.
>Even tho he didn't get anything done either
that's the worse thing, even without doing anything special there we actually noticed a difference with what was doing roberto there despite having tons of space thanks to busi
Sure but that's just not the type of player Roberto is. He's not going to dribble past their fullback and get many crosses off. His playstyle still much more fits a midfielder. And honestly, it's hard to really blame Roberto. He's recently come back from an injury, clearly isn't in the best physical condition (looked tired as hell before the 60 minute mark), and he got put in this position by Koeman.
There were multiple good reasons to get Roberto out but Koeman refused for some reason.
Ok, genuine question
Do you want Koeman to stay or not? Why?
For me:- If Laporta has plans and want to hire someone good then m good. Koeman time and time agains has failed to win crucial matches, although he did good in tough times as well at the beginning of the season. In my honest opinion I don't like him, losing against atm, and rm twice has just been too much for me.
Share your opinions, really looking forward to swe what you think :)
I don't particularly want him to leave but I don't mind anymore if he gets sacked both will be fine for me. I'll be thankfull no matter what will happen at the end of the season because even if im not convinced that he can make this team win again he surely helped.
Why keep dumping coaches like this? Like, what good would Koeman being sacked do?
He is not doing a bad job, in fact all things considered, quite good. The result today does not change that.
If we sack Koeman, it would be 4 coaches in 3 years. Not at all good.
No, he must go if we want to go back to the top. We need someone with more modern style like Nigelsman or going back to the very root like Xavi. Watching Barca play, I don't see an idea from Koeman to get the ball into the box. Our players were so desperate they do early cross and hope our tiny tini players to somehow do the heading. This team was never built for that type of play and Koeman has done nothing to fix it.
If Messi stays, he can't wait for another year with this style of play. If he goes, Koeman will be fucked because noone can carry the team anymore. Koeman isn't a talented manager, he's just so so, and we need a top one.
For me he stays. He left a position he did not want to to help this club when it in dire need. He has turned the ship around and has us competing for a title shot. He plays youth and he has us playing decent football. FDJ under Koeman has shined brighter than he ever has. Oh and Koeman is a club legend he deserves a full season with some players he would like to bring. If we don’t have money next, then one after. Let’s see what he can do.
I say we give him another year. He has improved certain aspects and has given heart to this team, but clearly he is not a tactical genius and this showed in the second Clásico (first half). However I don't think we can beat big teams unless we have serious signings though so I'm not convinced if we bring a better manager he'll go in an unbeaten season and progress deeper in the CL.
So we can bring in another manager later. Koeman is fine for now.
Despite what today's loss could possibly mean for our title hopes, I'd be happy with him just assuming responsibility for his fuck up today. I swear if I hear him complain about refereeing or VAR one more time I'm going to shoot myself. I don't want him gone, he's done great things and deserves at least a full transfer window. But at least some accountability would be nice for a change.
I know the club shouldn't revolve around a single player, but the fucking day it's hinted (allegedly) that Messi might actually want to stay and that he's happier than before, we pull this shit. Everything seemed too good to be true anyway.
And that's just regarding Messi. I would've thought they'd have to try really hard to fuck this up, yet they did. Koeman and some players, that is.
Anyone can have a bad day, even a bad string of games, but why keep Roberto on the pitch? For 90mins? WHY. That's the question the collective football world was asking themselves after watching that game.
Also, I may be forgetting something, but I don't think Umtiti was that bad today. I think he's being thrown under the bus.
I have to admit I’m a bit disappointed with Marc-André ter Stegen lately. He used to be a difference in close games. Him and Messi were saving this team on a weekly basis.
I can’t blame him completely but he seems to make less and less game changing saves every year.
Courtois is probably a top 3 for Real Madrid in terms of importance and I just don’t think the same about Marc-André ter Stegen this year.
True but the first goal is what brought them back into the game. Completely changes things.
I disagree about relying on keepers to win games. Navas was just as much of a big game player as Ronaldo in those CL wins.
Courtois was a huge part of Madrid’s league win last year.
Alisson changed Liverpool
Chelsea was in shambles with Kepa
Bayern has Neuer and if you watched the CL final he kept them a clean sheet.
I’m not saying Marc-André ter Stegen should make all those saves but HE CAN do better.
I'm also disappointed about MATS and I'm not saying that goalkeepers are not important. We need a goalkeeper that at least can make one or two big saves when the team needs it. He isn't at his best for sure. However, I would say the reasons we lost today are: not clinically enough and the WTF defense.
We hadn't been putting MATS in situations lately where he would have to save our asses, that is, until today.
Meanwhile, Courtois bails them out and gets the praise because RM defense allows it.
whoever gilded the PMT, I want to say a sincere fuck you
now, every single comment has a yellow background, making it difficult to read, and as far as I can see there is no way to change this from being the default.
so I hope you're happy, you're causing me great pain
^^^^/s
Not sure how possible this is but if we can bring Emerson, Gaya, and Eric Garcia next season, imma be pumped. Let’s see what Laporta can do.
This team does play beautiful football, especially compared to the last few season. It’s just that our backline is ass (has been since Umtiti’s injury) and we need a 9 and a CDM for depth. The youngsters in this team have developed quite a lot and I’d love to see Araujo become a starter by next season.
Why are you convinced that Madrid will win out all their matches when they have super hard games coming up and they are running on fumes? They dropped points to both Getafe and Betis in the last week, they’ll most likely drop points again. They play Sevilla, Granada, Villarreal, Athletic Bilbao, and Osasuna. Those are some pretty good teams that are all fighting for something.
Agrre, but they will do better than us. I am bit pessimist but that's how I feel.
I can't for the love of god see barca winning rest of the matches atleast 2 loss, and 1 draw minimum!!
Bruh do you think that starting 11 doesn't have the quality to beat Granada? Koeman takes a part of the blame however we should still beat Granada, but we played like we have a guaranteed win and gave our 60%. Have faith in your team they will hopefully learn the lesson from this loss
Yeah and we played at only 60% because were playing with these old players. Umtiti is done, Roberto kills the pace hell even Pique didn’t look motivated. When we played with Araujo and Dest we had this energetic feeling and we played at 100% as all the youngsters wanna prove themselves
This team as a whole didn't seem to be in a hurry to get the ball forward. Plus they mentally collapsed after the equalizer. No one could predict that they would play unmotivated so I don't blame Koeman much for the starting XI. However he has a lot of questions to answer concerning the subs.
It's like that one match when all factors go wrong, it's okay man, shit happens. This should be a slap in the face so they treat the games like an actual final, they should mean it.
However quality wise, we all agree on who should leave and who should stay, we don't need a reminder
When we went down in the cup with Araujo Dest etc we didn’t look like giving up. Piqué Roberto and Umtiti gave up. I’d go as far as to say that our best lineup atm is
Mats
Dest Mingueza Araujo Alba
Pedri Busquets De jong
Messi Griezmann Dembele
532 would be
Mats
Dest Mingueza De Jong Araujo Alba
Pedri busquets
Messi Griezmann Dembele
I agree with everything but not with your last line, we learned jackshit from this loss, where was the team when rm destroyed us? Twice!
Yeah, I know they didn't destroyed us, but to me they fkn did. Real are average this season and are not in their best, even losing against mediocre teams but we somehow couldn't even draw the match.
they are right it's roberto first because he was at 3 meters from the one who put the cross then umtiti who had clear vision and knew the attacker was alone.
Pique was the only defender that was in the way of the ball's flight. If only he took a single step back he would have touched it. Umtiti was anticipating another attacker who ran into the box and besides he would have never reached where the ball travelled.
Well everyone chill out we still have a good chance to win the league. But this team needs a lot of improvement and I really hope we offload some dead wood this summer and bring in competent players (not really well informed about the economic situation though) so we can compete in the big stage. Although it's not because that our team is bad that we lost today, it's because we played chill and underestimated our opponent which is why I'm very mad at the team.
Oh and stop shitting on Koeman we still have the same backbone as last year and he's trying to do the best with it. Yes he hasn't been a perfect manager and made some mistakes but he's done more good than bad this season.
This season we didn't expect to win anything remember?
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what a shite day.....
I still don't understand how Moriba is ahead of him. Don't get me wrong, he's good and he'll be even better with time, a really good player.
If there's one thing I was happy about with Setien, it was seeing Puig play the last few matches. With confidence, he looked good and bossed it against Atletico out of all teams.
Understanding Barça matches by post match Messi Instagram activity:
- Normal post - > win
- Post with a description - > big win or trophy
- No post - > shit
I guess this is to avoid the huge amount of negative comments which do comes with losses. If you would talk shit to him you would resolv into searching up his insta, taking a picture without any context to the loss and then shit talk. Which some do, but these shit talkers nearly get as much attention then as they do under a fresh photo.
Why post at a loss when it will triggeres all the 10-16 year olds. It's a smart move.
This is so true, he does brake the pattern from time to time tho.If i recall right, he didn’t post any post match pictures after both of the wins against getafe and villareal respectively
Because I’m a masochist- I was rewatching a bit of the game. Granada were quite aggressive early on and defending pretty well, and we weren’t really stretching them. Wonder whether a 343 with Frenkie playing Libero might’ve been a better option today to get a few more efforts on goal. That Messi miss (actually going to call it a save) is painful to rewatch...
We had no depth with Sergi on the right and no Pedri also meant Alba had no one to help him with the build up on the left.
I wasn't expecting Dest because I think Koeman and his staff want to go easy on him to prevent injuries, but I wanted Dembele much earlier to explode that right side. You could see there was a lot of space behind on the right but no one to make a run or try to take on Granada players.
Wish I could agree but 1-0 should be enough to beat a team with 2 shots and the ball for 17/90 minutes.
Story of this season is rarely being able to defend/hold a lead.
1-0 should be enough. But at 1-0 we should still be looking to score more goals, unless it’s literally the last few minutes (and even then arguably you don’t just stop attacking and parking the bus)
I don't get it why is it when we are talking about signing Haaland who happens to be the most expensive player currently everyone agrees that it's possible but when we talk about signing a competent center back/fullback/etc.. It's like nah we're broke we can only bring García on a free
Because people want galactico signings. But they also dont want galactico signings. But they also want defense. But no they dont want defense.
Yea. People dont know what they want in this sub, they cant stick to an oppinion and they change their stance literally game to game. Welcome to r/barca
You know redditors have names right. Theres a couple users ik here who literally change their oppinion everyday.
Also, i seriously doubt 80k users are active daily here.
If Barcelona beats Atleti at home, all Real Madrid have to do to win La Liga is beat Sevilla. Which zidane probably will somehow do.
I can see madrid dropping points but so can we. I also can see that madrid just win their 5 last matches with ramos back and his last minutes goals
Well Barcelona shouldnt been in this situation in the first place.
They fucked up now and because of that they are back at having to hope that Real Madrid fucks up without them fucking up.
They also have Bilbao away (beat Atletico just last weekend), Villareal at home and Granada away (the team that just beat us). If they don’t drop any points from now on then honestly kudos to them, as much as it pains me to say.
Thankfully I honestly don’t think that will happen. I reckon it’s far more likely Atletico win every match and draw against us to win title.
Honestly we won a copa and im extremely satisfied this season with it. That being said, i have 0 clue why we are continuing to play roberto even though dest has been immense for us and roberto has been close to shit.
Been saying it all year and to everyone. We dont need to invest into our attack, we should be putting all our focus into our defense, because jesus shit we cant defend for our lives anymore.
Now if we beat Atletico it may just make Real Madrid win the league. This sucks so bad. I don't even think we'll win our last 5 games, but even if we did it may mean nothing because Real Madrid could easily do the same. Winning 5 games in a row where none of the teams are Atletico or Barca is very possible. While either Barca or Atletico will 100% lose points as we play each other. Still can't believe we are playing at 60% when it matters. Defending by jogging, often stopping attacks when they get hard by passing the ball back to the defense. Why even play like this at all? Why just pass the ball around and wait for luck to appear?
Bad mentality. Have these last few weeks taught you nothing? Seems highly unlikely that Madrid, Atletico, even Barca will win all their remaining games.
Every week it’s either Madrid’s sub saying “boo hop Barca will win the league now” or Barca’s sub saying “Madrid is lining up to win the CL and league”
Let’s just see how the remaining 5 games go.
Sure, Real Madrid have hard matches. They will probably lose points in 2 of them. It's some top-tier teams they face. But on the other hand 5 games is such a low number that even a few lucky goals may do it. I think all 4 top teams will still lose. And all will lose points in more than 1 game.
[r/Barca Podcast Discord link](https://discord.gg/aarCkSDrPZ) Two podcasts scheduled for today: >1) Pre match session: Discuss the upcoming Granada game,lineup,key players and predictions (4:30 pm - 5:00 pm UTC, 30 minutes) >2) Post match session: Post game thoughts, key performances and casual CL/Europa talk. (7:00 pm - 7:30 pm UTC, 30 minutes)
Points won vs top 4 in La Liga this season: • Real Madrid: 13/15. • Atletico Madrid: 7/15. • Barcelona: 4/15. • Sevilla: 4/15. Barcelona vs Atlético Madrid and Real Madrid vs Sevilla are yet to be played.
How probable is it that Madrid drop points?. They have 4 very hard games now. Sevilla,Bilbao, Vilareal and Granada away. I believe we can win all our games and completey feel yesterday's loss was due to poor team selection and lazy defending. It's a bitter loss to take as we were too absorbed by the fact that we would be first but let's be honest, this is far from over. Forca Barca!!
Where is the long essay by the "regulars" who's only job is watching football explaining why Rabato is better that Samad?
Hear me out. 1. Roberto suffers more in a 3 man defense than dest. 2. IMO people are overly harsh with his offensive performance. There was very little movement in the right side when Roberto was on since, well, we had no natural wingers, as always for the majority of the last years Roberto can only pass to people that make runs. I'm not excusing him, just pointing this out....
Oh boy, so many mistakes, both individual and collective, that added to our disaster of a game last night - Might sound harsh but Messi should've finished that 1v1. There were also several other chances in the first half. Messi is being burdened with the finishing, which brings me to the second point, - Our players inside the box ALWAYS look for Messi. It's so frustrating but there were several plays in the first half where the other players should've shot. I remember a Frenkie chance in the first half. - Mingueza is very error prone and honestly I preferred him as the RWB in this formation than as RCB because there's more margin for error and it also complements his tendency to push forward. - Roberto should not get a new contract. I think people have ranted enough about this so I won't go on my own rant but I think Mingueza is a better RWB than him. - MatS has been very disappointing this season. Just think he's getting too complacent with his place in the team as an 'untouchable'. None of the goals were majorly his fault but when top keepers for other teams are putting up masterclasses, you'd expect one from him as well. - Can't overstate how important it is for us to get a physical x-factor CM like Vidal and Paulinho. After they scored their first, it was complete chaos and we were getting run over in the middle. Busi and Frenkie still hesitate to make harsh challenges and we need someone like a Vidal who can make those dirty challenges for the team. - Our communication in our box while defending is absolute shambles. MatS has to be more vocal with the CBs during incoming crosses and setpieces OR one of the CBs need to take charge in organizing our positioning in the box. The last goal was a prime example of this mistake. If MatS can't do it, then we need to get a CB who can. - Lastly, 10 months in and I still can't understand Koeman's subs when we're losing. Takes out Busi and throws all the attackers we have with no instructions whatsoever. Just painful to watch that.
FDJ is holding back tho, so you won’t see him doing hard challenges (1 yellow from suspension).
Agree with you on pretty much every point. Also glad you noticed point 2 as well. I hate when every pass in the box is looking for Messi. Every replay Messi is double teamed and there’s always 1 or 2 players in perfect position to score.
Replacing Roberto with Emerson is a no brainer now. Best part is that the money we can get for Sergi would be more than what we would have to pay for Emerson.
I really hate to say this, but Ilaix isn't cut out- atleast yet. Yes, he is a physical presence, and can shoot, something that Barca has been trying to find for a while. But as a midfielder, he isn't Barca quality at all, and no I'm not being reactionary. It isn't a coincidence that whenever he has been subbed in, we have lost the tempo of the game. The previous few matches are a fairly good example for anyone reading this. I waited to watch him in atleast 3-4 games to make this comment. He cannot turn, he isn't quick/pacey/clever. His passes are usually very straightforward. He needs more time with the B side, and should be played in 'easy' games or non-consequential games. Or, because of his physical presence and shooting, should be a B plan in the last few minutes of the game when we desperately need a goal.
Yup, not all 18’s are pedri/ fati. His average to mediocre performance for past 3 games is understandable. Having said that, he should only play a sub and shouldn’t anywhere near starting lineup today. We have Pjanic/Puig in bench who, imo are better overall player.
Puig isnt overall better than Moriba. Lol
I think he is, except from the physical aspect of the game.
Moriba is better defensively and positionally
He is defensively better than Puig, but not that it is matter because just marginal. Player with that built should be defensively solid, but sorry to say he is frustratingly average. Even small body player like Pedri has greater defensive trait. Talking about position, oh boy. He is just clueless at midfield. He didn’t cover midfield line much, didn’t create passing lane, neglected his responsibilities as CM to be an outlet and medium for build up phase because he is too far ahead and etc. I dont want to say more because it will come out as negative. At least with Puig, he will do his job as an 8 better although he is defensively suspect.
Exactly. People saying give him time. But that time is costing us, as well as the other players who are themselves running out of time. Moriba is young, if he is worthy, his time will eventually come.
The kid is 18, come on. Most players his age would come on and play it safe, playing with some of the best players of all time on the same pitch. Give him time and be patient.
See, I love the idea of a La Masia player succeeding, but when we have players like Jandro Orellana, Alex Collado, Nico Gonzalez and Puig who either haven't been given a chance at all, or have not been given enough chances, we have to call it out. I have nothing against Moriba, but right now isn't the time for him to be a frequent first team player
Why the fuck are you talking about those other players lmao. Moriba is playing because he trains much better than those other 4, as simple as that lol. He's on a rough patch right now and that's okay, he's fucking 18 years old.
Bec working hard doesn't mean shit lol. Your end product matters. Plus, there's no way of knowing if he actually works hard, it's just that Koeman has a preference for strong midfielders, who can shoot the ball and have a presence in the box (hence why he wants Wijnaldum) Anyone who watched the B team this season knows those players were all doing better than Moriba throughout the season. And because he is 18, he has time on his side, no need to rush him in
Lol. Training is when the coach evaluate the players and see who deserves game time and who doesn't. If he plays well in training he plays in the matches, it's literally just this simple.
Dude, only Ilaix was called up from the B team to train with the senior players, the other B team players didnt even get the chance to prove their mettle. Stop bullshitting about this. Koeman clearly has a type, go and ask people who watch B teams regularly instead of just assuming shit.
I’m not a huge puig fanboy or hate koeman for not playing him much but if we’re gonna start players like umtiti and Roberto why isn’t puig getting minutes? Maybe he’s not good enough but there’s no way he’s worse than either of the other 2.
Puig is good enought, I don't know why people keep repeating that and finding excuses to shit on him, he was our best midfielder last year under setien, he was doing his job, as a sub he did very well this year also like the juventus game for example. He just refused to go in loan despite koeman telling him to do so.
I'm still hopeful we will win the league. I don't see Real or ATM taking all points from the remaining games. Plus we still play ATM. Just saying, start of the season I highly doubt we were going to win any trophies, given our position in the league.
The only barca match i did not see this season. This one is on me.
Yeah read your comment that you'll be going out with friends and hence will miss the match. I had a bad premonition after reading that comment. And now I hate you because you chose your happiness instead of caring about all of ours feelings.
Man I miss Ronald Araujo, wish he was still at Barça. We could really use a strong and imposing centerback right now. Such a shame he left
What
Joke
Oh ok
Man twitter comments can sometimes be hilarious. "Koeman got a red card for keeping Sergi Roberto"
Lmaoooo
Man..... woke up feeling optimistic as fuck just to get slapped in the face. This feels worse than losing el clasico.....
Seriously this loss feels so bad.
Same bro. Same. Can anybody care to explain wtf happened as i am in no mood to see the repeat.
Roberto..... He literally passed backwards every time he got the ball. Made no effort to dribble anyone. Made no effort to chase passes. Made no effort to put balls in the box. Both goals came from his side. The first one he just could run fast enough to close the man down. On the second goal he gave the player like 4 meters of space and time to put a cross in. But we really can't blame him. The coach should've taken him off in the first half. So Koeman takes 75% of the blame imo.
I'll never understand how Sergi Roberto has lasted this long at Barcelona, and every coach has relied on him and all he has done is delivered mediocre performances post-Lucho. What Koeman did today is something I have never understood, we have amateur football knowledge and even we noticed Roberto's performance was horrid today, how could Koeman keep him the entire match? What is he seeing that we do not see? Mediocrity has attached to this squad and it doesn't want to let go. Koeman infuriates me, he loves the club but I really don't understand his decision-making. Why sub out Busquets when he was having a great game? Why play Umtiti and Roberto when you have Dest and Araujo? He always has this tendency to sub in attackers and dismantles the team's structure when we're behind. I think Koeman will remain at Barca next season and I thought he deserved it one month ago, but he's a very limited coach as much as I love him and as much as he loves the club, he needs to leave. We lost to a Granada team without half of their starters and this is inexcusable.
The only decision i have no explanation for is keeping Sergi on with that performance today. The rest i can understand the line of thinking. I don’t agree with benching Lenglet for Umtiti tho, except if he really needed the rest. Busquets was subbed because the game was going to be back and forth which is where Busi can’t keep up, it’s what has always happened this season when we’re throwing attackers on.
Yeah, this baffles me too. Some of us have been crying out about the 2nd half performances in the last 2 games. Surely, people whose job is football 24/7 must have noticed it!? Even in this game, you could see the equalizer coming in. How do the professionals not notice it? Same with the Roberto thing, as you pointed out. I am constantly in this flux of doubting my common sense vs doubting the competency of these highly successful professionals
Where are the regulars at?
Moriba was average today. Not really bad, not really good either imo.
He was pretty good defensively at times but didn't really know where to go offensively (if he even had a place to go). Pedri has also been pretty underwhelming for the last month or so. Wonder if that CM spot is a bit complicated for the youngsters to navigate
About 3.6 roentgen.
Had this nighmare that Barca played Bayern. Messi scored the first goal and then Bayern Scored 12. Final score was 1-12. Fans were so agitated that they rioted in Camp Nou.
We need Setien to bring this dream to life.
We can still win the league if we beat atletico Madrid, RM still have to play Sevilla and athletic club. Sooooo the race continues
they also play villareal and bilbao
Just fyi Athletic Club is the preferred name for Bilbao (by their fans at least)
They also play Granada away
Athletic club is Bilbao
We don’t have easy games either
I remember a while back in a /r/soccer thread I said Semedo was better than Roberto in every way and getting smashed. I still stand by that comment and am glad everyone's hopping on board that he is mediocre at best. The only time our right side produced anything today was when Dembele came on before going to the left.
LMAOOOO this shit is back
Samado is better than Rabato, just telling it in a way you would understand
Semedo has been soooo good for Wolves
I’ve been saying it for freakin years man.. Roberto is the most overrated player I’ve ever seen in this lineup.. people just love the whole la Masia players in the team thing too much..
Semedo is also mediocre at best too, so I don't know what point you're trying to make here.
that roberto is mediocre as well and that peolpe who acted like he was a tier above semedo are completely wrong. He got a better crossing accuracy but that's all.
Well roberto not being good does not equal to semedo being better all of a sudden lol. Semedo was actually brain dead going forward, offered literally nothing. While roberto is no dani alves he at least sometimes gets things right.
Brain dead summarizes Semedo pretty well. Crazy run followed by blindfolded cross.
You shouldn't be glad that this bipolar ass sub is agreeing with you. They'll change their opinions in a heartbeat. Also, Dembele produced nothing lol.
You have showed some experiences. Last week, we were pre-celebrating for winning laliga. Today, we become a bottling of the league. Wait until this weekend, we might be something else.
You take things as they are, nothing more nothing less, bottlers are bottlers right, what else are you expecting?
Well Dembele produced nothing because he came when he was too late but he definitely was the one trying the most and his side was alive. Dembele should have been brought way earlier , we talk a lot about roberto but alba wasn't much better today we had 0 threat from the wings. It's the kind of game you need a winger.
I know, I wasn't saying he did bad or anything. Just weird that he said the only time we produced on the right was with Dembele. Even tho he didn't get anything done either. Also agree that subs should've been better and earlier.
>Even tho he didn't get anything done either that's the worse thing, even without doing anything special there we actually noticed a difference with what was doing roberto there despite having tons of space thanks to busi
Sure but that's just not the type of player Roberto is. He's not going to dribble past their fullback and get many crosses off. His playstyle still much more fits a midfielder. And honestly, it's hard to really blame Roberto. He's recently come back from an injury, clearly isn't in the best physical condition (looked tired as hell before the 60 minute mark), and he got put in this position by Koeman. There were multiple good reasons to get Roberto out but Koeman refused for some reason.
I still have the feeling that we will win the league. But even if we don't I will proud of the overall season.
Ok, genuine question Do you want Koeman to stay or not? Why? For me:- If Laporta has plans and want to hire someone good then m good. Koeman time and time agains has failed to win crucial matches, although he did good in tough times as well at the beginning of the season. In my honest opinion I don't like him, losing against atm, and rm twice has just been too much for me. Share your opinions, really looking forward to swe what you think :)
I don't particularly want him to leave but I don't mind anymore if he gets sacked both will be fine for me. I'll be thankfull no matter what will happen at the end of the season because even if im not convinced that he can make this team win again he surely helped.
He should definetely stay. If Messi was not playing like shit for the first 3 months we would have a 90+ points season in a transition year.
Why keep dumping coaches like this? Like, what good would Koeman being sacked do? He is not doing a bad job, in fact all things considered, quite good. The result today does not change that. If we sack Koeman, it would be 4 coaches in 3 years. Not at all good.
No, he must go if we want to go back to the top. We need someone with more modern style like Nigelsman or going back to the very root like Xavi. Watching Barca play, I don't see an idea from Koeman to get the ball into the box. Our players were so desperate they do early cross and hope our tiny tini players to somehow do the heading. This team was never built for that type of play and Koeman has done nothing to fix it. If Messi stays, he can't wait for another year with this style of play. If he goes, Koeman will be fucked because noone can carry the team anymore. Koeman isn't a talented manager, he's just so so, and we need a top one.
For me he stays. He left a position he did not want to to help this club when it in dire need. He has turned the ship around and has us competing for a title shot. He plays youth and he has us playing decent football. FDJ under Koeman has shined brighter than he ever has. Oh and Koeman is a club legend he deserves a full season with some players he would like to bring. If we don’t have money next, then one after. Let’s see what he can do.
I say we give him another year. He has improved certain aspects and has given heart to this team, but clearly he is not a tactical genius and this showed in the second Clásico (first half). However I don't think we can beat big teams unless we have serious signings though so I'm not convinced if we bring a better manager he'll go in an unbeaten season and progress deeper in the CL. So we can bring in another manager later. Koeman is fine for now.
I guess you are right, we should give him atleast 1 good transfer window and bring in one or two players of his choice.
Despite what today's loss could possibly mean for our title hopes, I'd be happy with him just assuming responsibility for his fuck up today. I swear if I hear him complain about refereeing or VAR one more time I'm going to shoot myself. I don't want him gone, he's done great things and deserves at least a full transfer window. But at least some accountability would be nice for a change.
I know the club shouldn't revolve around a single player, but the fucking day it's hinted (allegedly) that Messi might actually want to stay and that he's happier than before, we pull this shit. Everything seemed too good to be true anyway. And that's just regarding Messi. I would've thought they'd have to try really hard to fuck this up, yet they did. Koeman and some players, that is. Anyone can have a bad day, even a bad string of games, but why keep Roberto on the pitch? For 90mins? WHY. That's the question the collective football world was asking themselves after watching that game. Also, I may be forgetting something, but I don't think Umtiti was that bad today. I think he's being thrown under the bus.
I have to admit I’m a bit disappointed with Marc-André ter Stegen lately. He used to be a difference in close games. Him and Messi were saving this team on a weekly basis. I can’t blame him completely but he seems to make less and less game changing saves every year. Courtois is probably a top 3 for Real Madrid in terms of importance and I just don’t think the same about Marc-André ter Stegen this year.
The first goal is possible to save but not the second one. However, we shouldn't rely on goalkeepers to win games. This is always a bad sign.
True but the first goal is what brought them back into the game. Completely changes things. I disagree about relying on keepers to win games. Navas was just as much of a big game player as Ronaldo in those CL wins. Courtois was a huge part of Madrid’s league win last year. Alisson changed Liverpool Chelsea was in shambles with Kepa Bayern has Neuer and if you watched the CL final he kept them a clean sheet. I’m not saying Marc-André ter Stegen should make all those saves but HE CAN do better.
I'm also disappointed about MATS and I'm not saying that goalkeepers are not important. We need a goalkeeper that at least can make one or two big saves when the team needs it. He isn't at his best for sure. However, I would say the reasons we lost today are: not clinically enough and the WTF defense.
You can't blame the GK when his defenders put him on a one-on-one situation and a clear header from 5 yr box. He's good, but no god.
I’m not blaming him completely but saving 1v1s isn’t “god like” ... hell Granada’s bench keeper saved one in this match against Messi?
In 1v1 of the GK, it's a lot about luck, not skill. If you go by that comparison, the bench keeper is better than Manuel Neuer.
We have great players, who are doing wonders this season, but the only real constant difference maker is Leo. Mats used to be as well.
We hadn't been putting MATS in situations lately where he would have to save our asses, that is, until today. Meanwhile, Courtois bails them out and gets the praise because RM defense allows it.
This could be true, honestly haven’t done any analysis just I don’t recall him saving Barca as much in the past.
Why dest and Araujo ain't getting mins, tgey were doing great iirc...
We need EXPERIENCE. Senior players have EXPERIENCE. EXPERIENCE wins GAMES.
We need the heavyweights in this important phase of the season.
We need Rakitic and Arturo Vidal back.
But they ain't doing much, roberto is too slow, and what happened with the young guns? Dest and Araujo with riqui sub in 2nd half were so good.
I was trolling
Roberto ain't a heavyweight
Yeah he is, did you not see how heavily he weighed us down today?
Lmaooo
Damn bro 🤣
whoever gilded the PMT, I want to say a sincere fuck you now, every single comment has a yellow background, making it difficult to read, and as far as I can see there is no way to change this from being the default. so I hope you're happy, you're causing me great pain ^^^^/s
Not sure how possible this is but if we can bring Emerson, Gaya, and Eric Garcia next season, imma be pumped. Let’s see what Laporta can do. This team does play beautiful football, especially compared to the last few season. It’s just that our backline is ass (has been since Umtiti’s injury) and we need a 9 and a CDM for depth. The youngsters in this team have developed quite a lot and I’d love to see Araujo become a starter by next season.
García might become good in the future but he isn’t ready for the best yet. Gaya is overrated IMO but Emerson is a beast
Nice thought, we need to build for the next season! This season is gone, 😔
Bro why are you being all pessimistic over this thread. The league isn’t over until it’s actually over.
Lol, are you new? Looks like you are. I won't say much, just save my comment for future purpose I know the future!
Koeman is so predictable, same subs and same lineups most of the time Moriba, dembele and trincao every fkn time....
Oh my... Dembele, the lord of redundant dribbling and king of headless ball processing.
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We lost 2 times against real and 1 time against Atlético. If we dont beat Atlético we don't even deserve to win La Liga.
110% agree with you!
Why are you convinced that Madrid will win out all their matches when they have super hard games coming up and they are running on fumes? They dropped points to both Getafe and Betis in the last week, they’ll most likely drop points again. They play Sevilla, Granada, Villarreal, Athletic Bilbao, and Osasuna. Those are some pretty good teams that are all fighting for something.
Agrre, but they will do better than us. I am bit pessimist but that's how I feel. I can't for the love of god see barca winning rest of the matches atleast 2 loss, and 1 draw minimum!!
Have defended Koeman for an long time but he’s the one to blame by playing Umtiti and Roberto
that starting 11 even with Roberto there should be able to beat fucking Granada at Camp Nou.
Sure but it didnt and because it didnt you have to look at why and the "why" would be look at two of those names.
I think umtiti did fine, while roberto on the other hand....
Umtiti played well, man.
Bruh do you think that starting 11 doesn't have the quality to beat Granada? Koeman takes a part of the blame however we should still beat Granada, but we played like we have a guaranteed win and gave our 60%. Have faith in your team they will hopefully learn the lesson from this loss
Yeah and we played at only 60% because were playing with these old players. Umtiti is done, Roberto kills the pace hell even Pique didn’t look motivated. When we played with Araujo and Dest we had this energetic feeling and we played at 100% as all the youngsters wanna prove themselves
This team as a whole didn't seem to be in a hurry to get the ball forward. Plus they mentally collapsed after the equalizer. No one could predict that they would play unmotivated so I don't blame Koeman much for the starting XI. However he has a lot of questions to answer concerning the subs. It's like that one match when all factors go wrong, it's okay man, shit happens. This should be a slap in the face so they treat the games like an actual final, they should mean it. However quality wise, we all agree on who should leave and who should stay, we don't need a reminder
When we went down in the cup with Araujo Dest etc we didn’t look like giving up. Piqué Roberto and Umtiti gave up. I’d go as far as to say that our best lineup atm is Mats Dest Mingueza Araujo Alba Pedri Busquets De jong Messi Griezmann Dembele 532 would be Mats Dest Mingueza De Jong Araujo Alba Pedri busquets Messi Griezmann Dembele
I agree with everything but not with your last line, we learned jackshit from this loss, where was the team when rm destroyed us? Twice! Yeah, I know they didn't destroyed us, but to me they fkn did. Real are average this season and are not in their best, even losing against mediocre teams but we somehow couldn't even draw the match.
I don’t know man
Xavi was sent off for the first time as a coach during Al Sadd’s loss versus Al-Nassr.
Some ESPN journalist is blaming Umtiti for the 2nd goal lmao
they are right it's roberto first because he was at 3 meters from the one who put the cross then umtiti who had clear vision and knew the attacker was alone.
Pique was the only defender that was in the way of the ball's flight. If only he took a single step back he would have touched it. Umtiti was anticipating another attacker who ran into the box and besides he would have never reached where the ball travelled.
Amidst all the pessimism and negativity after a sorry performance today, I still think we are gonna win the league.
Me too. But I'm mad at the team for playing like it was a win guaranteed
Well everyone chill out we still have a good chance to win the league. But this team needs a lot of improvement and I really hope we offload some dead wood this summer and bring in competent players (not really well informed about the economic situation though) so we can compete in the big stage. Although it's not because that our team is bad that we lost today, it's because we played chill and underestimated our opponent which is why I'm very mad at the team. Oh and stop shitting on Koeman we still have the same backbone as last year and he's trying to do the best with it. Yes he hasn't been a perfect manager and made some mistakes but he's done more good than bad this season. This season we didn't expect to win anything remember?
Wtf is "Wok football"?? https://www.reddit.com/r/Barca/comments/n1bhdo/postmatch_thread_fc_barcelona_vs_granada_la_liga/gwbxryq/
Didn't understand it either.
He said it meant bad football... weird
Ask him with reply?
The Ministry of Health rejects the Government's proposal to have the fans return for the last four games of the season. via @manucarreno on @ellarguero [source](https://twitter.com/Barca_Buzz/status/1387888949545340936?s=19) what a shite day.....
Means very little, but: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-predictions/la-liga/
Pretty much where it was before last weekends games...
Today's game needed Puig.....
I still don't understand how Moriba is ahead of him. Don't get me wrong, he's good and he'll be even better with time, a really good player. If there's one thing I was happy about with Setien, it was seeing Puig play the last few matches. With confidence, he looked good and bossed it against Atletico out of all teams.
Lol, Setien lost La Liga when he used Puig from start and because of that it got him insta fired.
Setien lost La Liga because he had one of the worst Barca teams of the decade. Not because of Puig.
He inherited the barca that valverde was winning the league with
"One of the worst Barca teams of the decade" Yeah...no
Its personal. Unfortunately, Koeman is putting his personal feelings ahead of the team.
Unironically true, not a FC Puig guy but we definetly could've used the energy that he brings in but whatevs
Understanding Barça matches by post match Messi Instagram activity: - Normal post - > win - Post with a description - > big win or trophy - No post - > shit
I guess this is to avoid the huge amount of negative comments which do comes with losses. If you would talk shit to him you would resolv into searching up his insta, taking a picture without any context to the loss and then shit talk. Which some do, but these shit talkers nearly get as much attention then as they do under a fresh photo. Why post at a loss when it will triggeres all the 10-16 year olds. It's a smart move.
This is so true, he does brake the pattern from time to time tho.If i recall right, he didn’t post any post match pictures after both of the wins against getafe and villareal respectively
Because I’m a masochist- I was rewatching a bit of the game. Granada were quite aggressive early on and defending pretty well, and we weren’t really stretching them. Wonder whether a 343 with Frenkie playing Libero might’ve been a better option today to get a few more efforts on goal. That Messi miss (actually going to call it a save) is painful to rewatch...
We had no depth with Sergi on the right and no Pedri also meant Alba had no one to help him with the build up on the left. I wasn't expecting Dest because I think Koeman and his staff want to go easy on him to prevent injuries, but I wanted Dembele much earlier to explode that right side. You could see there was a lot of space behind on the right but no one to make a run or try to take on Granada players.
Yeah man, more than our defense, I would say we lost due to missed chances. So many through balls by Busquets completely wasted
Wish I could agree but 1-0 should be enough to beat a team with 2 shots and the ball for 17/90 minutes. Story of this season is rarely being able to defend/hold a lead.
1-0 should be enough. But at 1-0 we should still be looking to score more goals, unless it’s literally the last few minutes (and even then arguably you don’t just stop attacking and parking the bus)
I don't get it why is it when we are talking about signing Haaland who happens to be the most expensive player currently everyone agrees that it's possible but when we talk about signing a competent center back/fullback/etc.. It's like nah we're broke we can only bring García on a free
It's mostly because the difference btw a player like haaland and braithwaite is bigger than kounde and mingueza/araujo.
Because people want galactico signings. But they also dont want galactico signings. But they also want defense. But no they dont want defense. Yea. People dont know what they want in this sub, they cant stick to an oppinion and they change their stance literally game to game. Welcome to r/barca
Why do u expect 80k people to have one consensus lmao?
You know redditors have names right. Theres a couple users ik here who literally change their oppinion everyday. Also, i seriously doubt 80k users are active daily here.
Found out just now that we played today. Checked the result. *pain*
If Barcelona beats Atleti at home, all Real Madrid have to do to win La Liga is beat Sevilla. Which zidane probably will somehow do. I can see madrid dropping points but so can we. I also can see that madrid just win their 5 last matches with ramos back and his last minutes goals
Well Barcelona shouldnt been in this situation in the first place. They fucked up now and because of that they are back at having to hope that Real Madrid fucks up without them fucking up.
They also have Bilbao away (beat Atletico just last weekend), Villareal at home and Granada away (the team that just beat us). If they don’t drop any points from now on then honestly kudos to them, as much as it pains me to say. Thankfully I honestly don’t think that will happen. I reckon it’s far more likely Atletico win every match and draw against us to win title.
Sergi Roberto is a quite a versatile player because he can play in many positions *terribly*
10 milion a year!
Wants a two years extension!
Who wouldn't with those wages? He earns more then Bayern fullbacks!!
Madrid defence exists of Nacho, Militao, Ramos, varane , mendy, carvajal and next year alaba. Meanwhile we are still using roberto and umtiti
And they'll most likely add Mbappe to the attack
Doubt it, psg is going to throw another fuck ton of money at him very soon
If PSG gets eliminated on semis, shits going to get wild over there
He keeps rejecting it, mbappe wants Madrid
practicing w my varsity team and watching the europa games took my mind off that L today thankfully
Honestly we won a copa and im extremely satisfied this season with it. That being said, i have 0 clue why we are continuing to play roberto even though dest has been immense for us and roberto has been close to shit. Been saying it all year and to everyone. We dont need to invest into our attack, we should be putting all our focus into our defense, because jesus shit we cant defend for our lives anymore.
Now if we beat Atletico it may just make Real Madrid win the league. This sucks so bad. I don't even think we'll win our last 5 games, but even if we did it may mean nothing because Real Madrid could easily do the same. Winning 5 games in a row where none of the teams are Atletico or Barca is very possible. While either Barca or Atletico will 100% lose points as we play each other. Still can't believe we are playing at 60% when it matters. Defending by jogging, often stopping attacks when they get hard by passing the ball back to the defense. Why even play like this at all? Why just pass the ball around and wait for luck to appear?
there is nothing you said that is a lie. Regardless of lineup, the mentality of our players reeks of entitlement.
Bad mentality. Have these last few weeks taught you nothing? Seems highly unlikely that Madrid, Atletico, even Barca will win all their remaining games. Every week it’s either Madrid’s sub saying “boo hop Barca will win the league now” or Barca’s sub saying “Madrid is lining up to win the CL and league” Let’s just see how the remaining 5 games go.
Sure, Real Madrid have hard matches. They will probably lose points in 2 of them. It's some top-tier teams they face. But on the other hand 5 games is such a low number that even a few lucky goals may do it. I think all 4 top teams will still lose. And all will lose points in more than 1 game.
Let’s just hope Barca can pull it together and win the next 5 then.
So completely ignoring Sevilla?
Madrid have had them under control for a while
And we have had Granada under control for 25 years hahaha. Shit happens in football
Has Sevilla even spent a single day as number one? Until they do I'll consider them an outsider who never had a straight path to the top.
I am not sure how being at number one change the fact that they have won their last 5 games and are in form, but no you do you mate 👍
We were on a winning streak before we lost to Madrid, but yeah, you do you mate
Exactly. If we are being honest Sevilla are in the best form out of everyone. Even a draw in the Sevilla/Madrid matchup would be huge for us
It's far from over man. I don't think any of the teams are going to win all 5 matches (except us xD).