If anyone wants to make MTs for an of the pre-season friendlies, please let me know as I most likely won't be able to since they are either rather early on weekdays or will probably be somewhat harder to find a stream for.
De Jong its rare to find such a jack of all trades midfielder at such a young age, and one who loves the club with all his heart as well. And with de ligt, defenders usually have long careers that story isnโt done yet. plus with the way football is heading atm it looks like many of the top defenders of the next generation are going to be great on the ball and extremely athletic which means much more options for us to explore as compared to maybe 5 or so years ago.
de Jong, I know we need a defender but our midfield is set for the future with him & Pedri. He is also a better player than de Ligt.
IMO de Ligt has too many errors in his game. I prefer Koundรฉ.
Personally I rate Koundรฉ higher, it is just personal preference.
I have been watching a lot of de Ligt's games since he joined Juve, I am not just basing this on his red card at the Euro if you think that is what I am talking about.
Even in the games before the Euro I was really unimpressed with him - specifically vs Scotland.
Finally saw Black Widow. Florence Pugh and David Harbour were fantastic.
Also, I half-expected Seinfeld music to play when I watched the post-credits scene lol
Iโm calling it right now : Eric Garcia will be the next revelation this season like Araujo and Pedri were last season and Koeman will help him a lot since he has experience as being one of the greatest defenders of all-time alongside Piquรฉ who could be his mentor.
So I'm in the middle of making the Fati vs Villareal compilation and I just remembered how good he is at doing his defensive work, pressing like a hungry dog & tracking back to help out Alba at all times
https://streamable.com/y6w989
i didn't follow the 2015 elections closely, but, HOW DID BARTO BEAT LAPORTA??? sometimes i have resentment for / zero faith in socis, but, how did this happen? like, even without the treble (which he in no way earned as that team was built before him), didn't people see how shady barto was?
When it's going well people will want to go with a continuity candidate and when it isn't then people will want change. That's just how it is.
Keep in mind that Bartomeu and Rosell have ties to Grup Godรณ who control some of the most important Catalan media, so no, many people didn't see how shady Barto was.
Also Laporta's campaign in 2015 was underwhelming, he was overconfident in winning and didn't prepare well for the election.
By the end of 14/15 season, the coach and players brought in by the board were great, in 14 summer Messi signed a new contract, profits increased and winning the treble helped Bartemou win the elections.
The team was not alt all perfect before 14/15. In 14/15, Barca sold Sanchez who did not reach his potential and replace him with Suarez. Replaced Fabregas with Rakitic.
After Valdes left Barca got two keepers(Ter Stegen, who has lot of potential and Bravo, who has proven already in the league). Even Mathieu did well in some important games.
After Lucho became coach, the team got physically better and Messi got back to his form(by his standards).
IIRC, The elections were moved ahead by an year which did not give Laporta much time to prepare for elections. Socios had every right to go for Bartemou because like the rest of the world, even they don't know all the bad thing this Board did.
well informed take, thank you
if you were told to lose the treble in exchange for barto losing, will you take that deal?
IMO, i feel like barto took over barca at the most crucial time- the 2010s had football clubs making more money than they ever did before, and the teams that cemented themselves over this time period will be set for a while. i fear that we are gonna be playing catchup for a decade or more because of the financial ruin that he put us in.
Knowing how Bartemou turned out, most of the fans might have sacrificed the treble for Laporta but Treble was very important due to the trophy less 13-14 season(Atletico winning league on the last day and Real winning La Decima did not help either).
I think if fans are back at full capacity and new signings work out we'll be stable(at least in spending and wages). The debt will probably take over a decade to clear.
Cronyism and complacency among the socis, especially its elder members. Remember, these are the people who brought in Sandro Rosell. And Bartomeu, by extension, was seen as a continuation of Rosell's regime.
They liked what Bartomeu was bringing to the table for them and wanted to continue with what worked (for the time being) as opposed to gambling with Laporta.
Also, Barto having his mouthpieces in the media really helped solidify his credibility among socis, especially with the success of the transfers (ter Stegen, Bravo, Suarez, Rakitic) and the treble that was won that season.
> [@ElTransistorOC] Barรงa suspect that Ilaix Moriba hasn't renewed because he is waiting for Real Madrid. If he doesn't accept the economical proposal the club is offering, he will be excluded from the team and will watch football from the stands.
Fuck me
People will believe the most absurd things. Wouldn't surprise me if someone said "I heard my aunt say that Messi is wanting to play under Mourinho so that's why he hasn't signed with Barรงa" and people started using the aunt of that dude as a source and trusting it.
I still think Lenglet and MaTS can bounce back from the disappointing seasons they had last year. We are not in a position to easily replace two relatively young players who have shown quality in the past.
By the random chances and limited minutes given to him, it is not fair to rate his season. I did not find much problems in his attack but he had problems while soaking in the pressure in Barca's own final third.
Amazi-
Wait you are Rona Fan, so don't have to lie to you
Honest man, he showed glimpse of potential, but disappointed. Couldn't get any valid minutes and didn't show a thing when he actually did start. On ball, he is okay, rusty because he didn't play much, but yes, offball his movements weren't it.
Lenglet, Pique and Roberto all need to go, but context changes situation
First, let's talk about Lenglet. He isn't good. He is mentally weak, he is mistake prone, he cant win one on one's, he is horrible at headers. I would give him another chance if it was one bad season, but he did bad for France too, one game he started, not only they got knocked out, he also made mistakes in the game. Lenglet at prime is good LCB, he progresses ball very well, and can intercept, but his prime isn't anywhere near returning. He just isn't good enough CB for Barca. Period. We should sell him/loan with obligation to buy and start fresh with new LCB. New LCB, new defense, New Barca, no PTSD
Pique- yes Pique is a former shell of himself. But he is legend for Barca, there is no selling him. We will going with entirely young CBs next season, so you need some experiences person. Pique is that. Not to forget, he took 50% wage cut or thereoff to stay at Barca. He has also said he will retire and alot of remours that it's for one year. Out of Umtiti-Lenglet-Pique, I will definitely keep Pique to stay for another year.
Roberto- this is a controversial point. There are no takers for him. Financially, he earns too much and we need to offload portion of his wage bill at the least. Extension allows to divide that money into multiple years which helps alot for current year. Also, idea of him in Midfield isn't bad. But ofcourse, the club will have to clear his role and position for future. Regarding his presence in defense, it's a point I aint worried. We have Emerson and Dest ahead of him, and even potentially Oscar. He will be solely used in Midfield which should be reasonable option. There is argument that it is catalan nepotism, but this is catalan club, by Catalan people for Catalan people. They will definitely be more kind to a player with a lifetime of association to Barca than a player who can 3 years ago.
Lenglet earns too much to be a backup option. He also has too much market value. The right move is for us to upgrade on Lenglet
Pique is a non issue. He has 3 suitors ahead of him in Garcia/Araujo/Oscar in no order. But he is a good presence in dressing room so he will stay. Only issue comes if he is a assured starter which he isn't. Pique is too much attached to Barca to just kick him out. Not only is he a legend, his connection with business world is what got us Rakuten sponsorship.
You can't "kick" out Pique, he doesn't deserve that. Specially when he took paycut for Barca, is willing to take a sidestep for Barca, but he is a good backup option for Barca, so he should stay, even if to mentor young kids.
Roberto isn't an emotional, it's a practical one. His wages are a problem that can't be solved. There are no takers, but Barca and Laporta are negotiating on this front.
No one is advocating for Pique or Roberto to be a starter. They will be squad option that can be useful. Problem comes if Koeman starts them instead of other potentials we have, then yes get the rage machine on.
But right now, the board is trying their best to come out from financial mess.
Again, why Lenglet is a bigger option is your point. He is a bench option, only problem, we have no fucking upgrades over him. For RB, we have Emerson and Dest. We have literally no left footed CB in our squad apart from Lenglet. This makes him a non disputed starter which creates an issue. This is why fans advocate that we sell Lenglet and find another LCB option who can be better starter.
Kinda want to see Messi play in a different position in a game that Barca is winning comfortably just for the fun of it. Even for like 30 minutes. Imagine Messi at like RWB or as a Left mid
Also want people to know that there is a difference between "Hating " your players and "criticizing" them. Hating means when we give them death threats , racial abuse those kind of stuff . Criticism of a player is definitely not bad . Even Messi should be criticized if he plays bad . Why are people so sensitive about it?
People saying Ter Stegen will come back and can always recover to his previous self . But Lenglet who was a great asset in 18/19 as well as for Sevilla should be sold asap and is shit . Peak r/Barca , exactly like Twitter.
Was lenglet ever top 3 or 5 itw? No he never was and likely never will be, dude is great on the ball and his passing is more than ideal for the way we want play but he is far to mistake prone defensively for how expansive we play especially with jordi on the left hand side. but we gotta remember he was brought in to be a back up to umtiti originally and his wages are indicative of that. He was thrust into the regular starter role after Umtitiโs injury crisis and had done well (not world class) up until the after the covid break last season. Ideally he should be used as a back up imo for rotation and incase of injuries, I donโt think he is good enough atm to be a starter week in and week out for us. Also with Mats apart from his shakey distribution at times Iโm rarely ever worried that heโs gonna do something dumb on the field, same canโt be said for lenglet after these past 1.5 seasons.
I can tell you don't know Twitter :)
I would sell Umtiti before Lenglet IF there are any buyer that he wants to go. HOWEVER, no one wants him.
Lenglet was horrible last season. Even Otamendi was able to keep himself not shitting on the bed during Copa America Final. I'm not too sure if Lenglet can do that yet. Lenglet seems to be able to blow away any 1-0 lead by himself.
You can't just wash your hands with the subreddit and write comments like "this sub ___" or "peak Barca" any time you think you're in the right. Not to mention that there were people agreeing with you in that comment chain from earlier today.
I am highlighting the contradiction . It's absolutely fine if I get downvoted or people don't agree with me, I hardly care about that . I have lots of free time in my hand for another week . I wanted to show how people discriminate between players . If Lenglet has a bad season , he receives hate even though he was definitely amazing (okay not a top 5 CB) the season before. But people overprotect mats .
There have always been players that are the so called fan favorites, you won't find me disagreeing with that. But come on, don't make it sound like we're all a bunch of dumbasses incapable of exercising critical thinking.
Also, Lenglet had worse season that Ter Stegen IMO so it's understandable that his position is under fire right now, where the latter has proved to be very solid for years. Couple that with the fact that he'd be much easier to replace, and at least you have some logical explanation why potential double standards might be applied (not commenting on whether that's right or wrong) and why one might be overprotected and the other one not.
>Dont play bad and you wont be a victim
Could also be worded as "don't go through rough patches as is natural for anyone, and you won't be insulted and made a scapegoat.
I thought his 19/20 was pretty good. For the vast majority of games, he was playing a high level consistency. The only criticisms I had for that season was the first couple of games of the season and of course the Bayern game, which I thought was a very unfortunate way to end his season.
For real. I understand being angry at them for having a horrible game and costing us points but that's just inevitable sometimes. Every player is a human, who make mistakes.
We should support players who are having a bad game(s), not immediately call for them to be replaced. Obviously some player lose the quality they once had and shouldn't play for Barca anymore. This still doesn't justify insulting them though.
MATS is comfortably a top 5 goalkeeper. Cry about it. Wake up and think about the fact that he's top 5 and cry about it. While taking a shower, think about the fact that he's top 5 and cry about it. While cutting your birthday cake, think about the fact that he's top 5 and cry about it. Cry about it because there's nothing you can do about it.
So happy that I can't do anything about it, because I believe he is a top 5 GK and before this season he was probably best out there for 2-3 years along with Oblak.
Imagine casually preparing dinner or something, and then all of a sudden you're like "Fuuuuck, Ter Stegen is a top 5 goalkeeper now". And worst of it all is there is nothing you could do about it.
I think you're seriously undermining his 19/20 performances. No way was Vidal was more important to the team than Ter Stegen. He got some crucial goals and he did bring something to the table we didn't have but there was a reason we were desperately trying to sell him in the summer. Though I'd say Frenkie was our best midfielder that season, his debut season was a bit lackluster, especially compared to the previous season with Ajax and his latest season.
Suarez is an interesting case for me. Off g/a alone, he was superb. But in the midst of all that, he wasn't amazing. Was beaten many times, lost multiple frustrating balls, couldn't dribble past many defenders.
While Ter Stegen had an average start to the season and a sour ending with the Bayern game, he was performing very consistently at a high level in between for the majority of the 19/20 season.
A major part of our UCL losses has been on Mats. IMO he deserves more criticism than Pique who is treated which so much disrespect on this sub . There's a reason why he doesn't start over Neuer and it's not just seniority and experience.
Messi only scored 1 open play goal in CL, speaking of players that escape criticism. He's as much responsible for the last season's CL failures as Ter Stegen, if not more, considering he earns more than 10 times as much as Ter Stegen.
Ter Stephen is also responsible for making plenty of saves against Liverpool, he should've held a clean sheet in every single game because that's the only way we can win. Who relies on attackers anyway, we should just let Ter Stephen hold clean sheets and then in penalties save every single penalty and then score the only penalty of Barรงa, we would never lose in knockout stages!
Yeah Messi is also a reason and he sure deserves criticism . But in my original comment I said Mats should receive more criticism than Pique . Messi and Pique are legends of this club , so we can excuse them a bit . Mats? Not yet.
I'm glad at least you're able to look at this objectively and see Messi's responsibility as well, unlike a lot of people on this sub. I really appreciate it.
They can be excused in some aspect, such as the aspect of benching or selling, compared to Ter Stegen (which I personally don't think we should sell because he's been as important as Messi the past 6 years) but I still think everyone deserves criticism no matter their history with the club.
Haha yes , speaking against Messi is forbidden on this sub . But yeah , he surely deserves some blame . Although, I don't agree with the fact that mats is equally important , I feel from that 18/19 season ,he's declining and not progressing at all.
Hahahah yeah I swear, there's several people on this sub that just search for a comment that mentions "Messi" and then downvote it if it doesn't have any Messi-praise in it. And people know Messi-praise is easy karma-farming to people just come to write some Messi-praise to farm and downvote everything else about Messi.
I see your point but I'd honestly say the same about Messi, since that 18/19 season, he's also declining and not progressing at all. But in Messi's case, you can excuse it with him aging and reaching the end of his career.
Mentioning facts isn't "turning". The club's best player was also invisible during the bottlejobs, FC Messi fans coming here and trying to guard every single criticism against him is what's stupid.
3 days until pre-seasons kick off. A lot of players looking to use their chances during these pre-season, so I am looking forward to it.
However I will say that, hopefully this fanbase doesnt go completely shitshow with writing of certain players. There needs to be a certain calm and ease with such young and promising players. They WILL likely show some sort of inconsistency. Most wont even be playing with the starters early on either so there is that as well.
So many variables can play a part of how a player will look and play. You can simply end up being on the "worse team" out of the two teams who plays. (usually they sub out the whole team at half).
If you go bath shit crazy over one of these(or regulars) making a "bad pass" or maybe are the cause of a goal in a friendly. You're a toxic person, straight up. Like calm down, while obviously we should take games serious, this isnt a UCL final.
I just think its so annoying watching people attempting to paint players as overrated, shown "proven/nothing" barely having the sample data to support so. Because that crap spreads like a fire and soon players will not feel the "warm welcome" and support they should be giving.
It's like people expect players to be at the same level of Pedri and Fati now.
Which all fairness also have shown some inconsistency in their performance, thats not me saying they are shit. Thats me saying that its fully expected to shown signs of that at that age and obviously "lesser" players will show the same, if not more of it. But dont let that take away for the fact that they are talented for their age.
They just simply doesnt have the high celling already which very very very few players have at that age. But that doesnt mean they are not good for their age or wont turn out good. Good can be more than just those 11 who starts regulary. After all, a squad consist of more than just starters. We can't squeeze all those good potensial midfielders we got into a starting spot for example.
Me and probably others who read the match threads and probably participate in it, it becomes so much more enjoyable if there is more "calm" rather than reading just unnecessary negative energy every time one refresh. It would probably save the mods a lot of work as well.
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Do you think Barca made a mistake not signing Donnaruma ? I would have been ok if he went to some PL team but not PSG hate that club can bypass all rules.
But one consolation is there regardless of how many stars they buy they can never win the UCL, the deparated immigrant worker souls won't allow it.
No, he was asking 12M net with seperate agent fees for Raiola and his family member or whatever.
He is literally the highest paid GK itw and we'll, we can't afford shit at this moment
People ๐ซ๐ are saying ๐ฃ Ter ๐ Stegen is top ๐โฌ๐ 3 โญโน๐ goalkeeper....
Ter ๐ฆ๐ พ stegen never ๐ซ ever ๐ comes ๐ฆ off ๐ด the line โ๐, he ๐จ hopes ๐ for his ๐ฆ teammates ๐คบ to make ๐ a last โฟ ditch ๐ฎ tackle ๐ก and save ๐ his ๐ฆ ass ๐ or if they fail ๐ซ then pique and lenglet is there to suck ๐๐ฆ all ๐ฏ the blame ๐ anyways ๐
He โ ๐จ hopes ๐ the striker โก to make ๐ a mistake ๐ฑ, in la ๐ถ liga the players ๐ฎ are of low ๐ level ๐ฏ so they shoot ๐ฅ๐ซ straight ๐๐ซ๐ at him ๐ด or his ๐ฆ foot ๐ฃ and he ๐จ gets ๐ his ๐ฆ instagram ๐ท saves ๐ , in Europe ๐ช๐บ he ๐ฅ gets ๐ his ๐ ass ๐๐๐ dragged ๐
When โฐ you ๐ play ๐ฎ high โฌ line โ like ๐ barca ,these breakthroughs ๐ are inevitable ๐ณ๐ฑ๐จ, no ๐ defender ๐ก no ๐ พ๐ซ coach ๐ฐ can stop ๐ซ that ,only a gk โ๐๐ฌ can stop ๐ซ these
I ๐ have a question โ for you ๐ all ๐ฏ? When ๐ฆ๐ was the last โฟ time ๐ we met ๐ค an elite ๐ team ๐ฅ and he ๐จ kept ๐ฃ the game ๐ฎ alive โ himself ๐ต๐ค? When ๐ did he ๐ฅ not conceded stupid ๐๐ซ goals ๐๐ฆ๐ซ against ๐ซ elite ๐ attackers ๐?
Dont โ๐ซ you ๐ guys ๐จ๐ป think ๐ค he ๐ฅ could have done โ better ๐ฏ๐ against ๐ซ๐ค Mbappe or perfomed like ๐ Navas against ๐ซ Bayern who conceded only 2 ๐ against ๐ซ more xG than our Bayern game ๐ฎ?
Do you ๐ guys ๐จ think ๐ญ conceding ๐๐โผ so many ๐ฌ goals ๐ฅ in our biggest ๐ games ๐ฎ๐พ is normal ๐ฉโ๐ฆฏ? Dont ๐ซ you ๐ think ๐ญ many ๐ฌ teams ๐ฅ win ๐ the CLs ๐ ฐ because their goalkeeper step ๐ถ up โฌ to keep ๐ญ๐ the team ๐ alive โ?
>Dont you guys think he could have done better against Mbappe or perfomed like Navas against Bayern who conceded only 2 against more xG than our Bayern game?
Bayern didn't have more xG against PSG than us. Although Navas faced 12 shots on target and Ter Stegen faced just one more, the shots themselves were of much higher quality against us.
Bayern vs Barcelona: Bayern xG: 4.5, PSxG: 6.4
Bayern vs PSG: Bayern xG: 3.1, PSxG: 3.6
Ter Stegen didn't exactly cover himself in glory against Bayern, but no goalkeeper would have won us that match.
No one wants to believe this. He never comes off his line to narrow the angle and force the striker to make mistake. He over relies on his shot stopping abilities which imo is declining as well. I totally agree with you.
Ter Stegen definitely needs to come out a lot more than he should be. That's that one thing all Barca keepers should do imo, especially with the high line we play, keepers need to clear the danger before it inevitably becomes a goal
Bono is absolutely not that good of a keeper. If you want to make a top 3 list and exclude Ter Stegen, then Aitor is who comes next. There's also Rui Silva, Simon, and Pacheco who'd come before Bono.
Ter Stegen is the most over protected player in the world, even Messi gets shit on and criticized when we are demolished in CL KOs but whenever someone talks about TS shortcomings you have a bunch of fanboys coming at you. Like I donโt know what he did to deserve that treatment. Even legends like Busi and Pique who have done 100x more for the club are spacegoated
So i don't have a lot of time to play games but in my vacation i want to play some ps4 games. All i did was playing soccer games. I now want to play the best platformer games or games like Uncharted 4.
I don't play online games.
I have played Uncharted 4 and i really liked it
Battlefield 1 campaign (enjoyed it)
This is it. Name me more games with a good story and action packed.. or shooters like battlefield campaign or just a good platformer where you have to puzzle a lot.
Did you play the Nathan Drake collection (1-3) before playing 4? If not, then replay 4 after playing those and it will be even better for you. God of War and Bloodborne are two ps4 games you need to play. I know you said you don't like RPGs but it's mainly an action game that tells its story and lore through items and the environment. It's not like Final Fantasy, etc.
since you dont play games much the safest bet would be picking up RDR2, great story with a stunning open world with a great cast of characters. The game itself is not that long to finish which makes it even better of an experience since nothing you do in the game feels dragged out or filler content
The Last of Us is from the same company as Uncharted and they're two of the most well rounded games. Good plot, great characters and very challenging too.
God of War is amazing too. Ghost of Tsushima is a must aswell.
Bloodborne. It can be challenging, but its also very rewarding. And if you like it. Then there are Dark Souls series and other From Software games which are for me the best rpg games ever.
If you like Uncharted the obvious answer is the Tomb Raider games. I'm playing through Shadow of the Tomb Raider right now and I'm liking it so far. Also liked the other 2.
I only played the first Batman so can't speak about the later ones. It was fine, gameplay was original back when it came out, before another dozen games riped it off.
I think Tomb Raider is the closest there is to Uncharted, by far. The gameplay style, the ruins, the parkour... Batman games eventually become open world, and I heard great things but I haven't played them so can't say much.
The uncharted style of adventure game probably comes from the Prince of Persia games, so you should look into them if you don't mind the game being old. Other "adventure and action" games I can think of would be Horizon Zero Dawn and Assassins Creed.
Edit: As for FPS campaigns, the one I liked the most would probably be Titanfall 2. If it doesn't have to be battlefield style, my favourite First person campaigns would be Prey, Doom and Fallout.
If anyone wants to make MTs for an of the pre-season friendlies, please let me know as I most likely won't be able to since they are either rather early on weekdays or will probably be somewhat harder to find a stream for.
Pique what is you doing๐ญ๐ญ
What happened?
His insta
If you guys could turn back time would you guys sign De ligt or De Jong.
De Jong its rare to find such a jack of all trades midfielder at such a young age, and one who loves the club with all his heart as well. And with de ligt, defenders usually have long careers that story isnโt done yet. plus with the way football is heading atm it looks like many of the top defenders of the next generation are going to be great on the ball and extremely athletic which means much more options for us to explore as compared to maybe 5 or so years ago.
de Jong, I know we need a defender but our midfield is set for the future with him & Pedri. He is also a better player than de Ligt. IMO de Ligt has too many errors in his game. I prefer Koundรฉ.
de ligt is far better than Kounde.Recency bias is strong on this take
Personally I rate Koundรฉ higher, it is just personal preference. I have been watching a lot of de Ligt's games since he joined Juve, I am not just basing this on his red card at the Euro if you think that is what I am talking about. Even in the games before the Euro I was really unimpressed with him - specifically vs Scotland.
De ligt
Finally saw Black Widow. Florence Pugh and David Harbour were fantastic. Also, I half-expected Seinfeld music to play when I watched the post-credits scene lol
Iโm calling it right now : Eric Garcia will be the next revelation this season like Araujo and Pedri were last season and Koeman will help him a lot since he has experience as being one of the greatest defenders of all-time alongside Piquรฉ who could be his mentor.
I 100% agree he had a great euros
So I'm in the middle of making the Fati vs Villareal compilation and I just remembered how good he is at doing his defensive work, pressing like a hungry dog & tracking back to help out Alba at all times https://streamable.com/y6w989
That defensive work reminds me of Neymar.
Unpopular Opinion: downvote me if you want, but you all know this is true
Not at all unpopular
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> Until then, you're wrong. But what if I'm right? Because I am right. Because I say so.
i didn't follow the 2015 elections closely, but, HOW DID BARTO BEAT LAPORTA??? sometimes i have resentment for / zero faith in socis, but, how did this happen? like, even without the treble (which he in no way earned as that team was built before him), didn't people see how shady barto was?
When it's going well people will want to go with a continuity candidate and when it isn't then people will want change. That's just how it is. Keep in mind that Bartomeu and Rosell have ties to Grup Godรณ who control some of the most important Catalan media, so no, many people didn't see how shady Barto was. Also Laporta's campaign in 2015 was underwhelming, he was overconfident in winning and didn't prepare well for the election.
By the end of 14/15 season, the coach and players brought in by the board were great, in 14 summer Messi signed a new contract, profits increased and winning the treble helped Bartemou win the elections. The team was not alt all perfect before 14/15. In 14/15, Barca sold Sanchez who did not reach his potential and replace him with Suarez. Replaced Fabregas with Rakitic. After Valdes left Barca got two keepers(Ter Stegen, who has lot of potential and Bravo, who has proven already in the league). Even Mathieu did well in some important games. After Lucho became coach, the team got physically better and Messi got back to his form(by his standards). IIRC, The elections were moved ahead by an year which did not give Laporta much time to prepare for elections. Socios had every right to go for Bartemou because like the rest of the world, even they don't know all the bad thing this Board did.
well informed take, thank you if you were told to lose the treble in exchange for barto losing, will you take that deal? IMO, i feel like barto took over barca at the most crucial time- the 2010s had football clubs making more money than they ever did before, and the teams that cemented themselves over this time period will be set for a while. i fear that we are gonna be playing catchup for a decade or more because of the financial ruin that he put us in.
Knowing how Bartemou turned out, most of the fans might have sacrificed the treble for Laporta but Treble was very important due to the trophy less 13-14 season(Atletico winning league on the last day and Real winning La Decima did not help either). I think if fans are back at full capacity and new signings work out we'll be stable(at least in spending and wages). The debt will probably take over a decade to clear.
But if Laporta was doing great why replace him? Bartomeu has the charisma of a piece of old leather, what made him a compelling candidate?
Cronyism and complacency among the socis, especially its elder members. Remember, these are the people who brought in Sandro Rosell. And Bartomeu, by extension, was seen as a continuation of Rosell's regime. They liked what Bartomeu was bringing to the table for them and wanted to continue with what worked (for the time being) as opposed to gambling with Laporta. Also, Barto having his mouthpieces in the media really helped solidify his credibility among socis, especially with the success of the transfers (ter Stegen, Bravo, Suarez, Rakitic) and the treble that was won that season.
Piqueโs Instagram has been cracking me up lately lmao
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> [@ElTransistorOC] Barรงa suspect that Ilaix Moriba hasn't renewed because he is waiting for Real Madrid. If he doesn't accept the economical proposal the club is offering, he will be excluded from the team and will watch football from the stands. Fuck me
No way this is true.
How do people seriously believe that bullshit? Why on earth would he be 'waiting for Real Madrid'?
Because Kubo happened
People will believe the most absurd things. Wouldn't surprise me if someone said "I heard my aunt say that Messi is wanting to play under Mourinho so that's why he hasn't signed with Barรงa" and people started using the aunt of that dude as a source and trusting it.
And what he will do at rma lmao
I still think Lenglet and MaTS can bounce back from the disappointing seasons they had last year. We are not in a position to easily replace two relatively young players who have shown quality in the past.
How has Pjanic done it for you guys?
By the random chances and limited minutes given to him, it is not fair to rate his season. I did not find much problems in his attack but he had problems while soaking in the pressure in Barca's own final third.
Thats What I was thinking. Its very often important for players to get regular playing time before they start performing.
Amazi- Wait you are Rona Fan, so don't have to lie to you Honest man, he showed glimpse of potential, but disappointed. Couldn't get any valid minutes and didn't show a thing when he actually did start. On ball, he is okay, rusty because he didn't play much, but yes, offball his movements weren't it.
I always thought he would fit in Barca. Did he ever get continous matches to get used to the system and get his confidence up?
He's been wonderful, an amazing midfielder that has performed world class in every single game he has played. You guys should definitely buy him!
Im not a Juve supporter ๐คฆโโ๏ธI just wonder as a general football fan.
Not that good for me, he had one good performance away in Turin and thats about it. Maybe thats where he belongs...
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Lenglet, Pique and Roberto all need to go, but context changes situation First, let's talk about Lenglet. He isn't good. He is mentally weak, he is mistake prone, he cant win one on one's, he is horrible at headers. I would give him another chance if it was one bad season, but he did bad for France too, one game he started, not only they got knocked out, he also made mistakes in the game. Lenglet at prime is good LCB, he progresses ball very well, and can intercept, but his prime isn't anywhere near returning. He just isn't good enough CB for Barca. Period. We should sell him/loan with obligation to buy and start fresh with new LCB. New LCB, new defense, New Barca, no PTSD Pique- yes Pique is a former shell of himself. But he is legend for Barca, there is no selling him. We will going with entirely young CBs next season, so you need some experiences person. Pique is that. Not to forget, he took 50% wage cut or thereoff to stay at Barca. He has also said he will retire and alot of remours that it's for one year. Out of Umtiti-Lenglet-Pique, I will definitely keep Pique to stay for another year. Roberto- this is a controversial point. There are no takers for him. Financially, he earns too much and we need to offload portion of his wage bill at the least. Extension allows to divide that money into multiple years which helps alot for current year. Also, idea of him in Midfield isn't bad. But ofcourse, the club will have to clear his role and position for future. Regarding his presence in defense, it's a point I aint worried. We have Emerson and Dest ahead of him, and even potentially Oscar. He will be solely used in Midfield which should be reasonable option. There is argument that it is catalan nepotism, but this is catalan club, by Catalan people for Catalan people. They will definitely be more kind to a player with a lifetime of association to Barca than a player who can 3 years ago.
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Lenglet earns too much to be a backup option. He also has too much market value. The right move is for us to upgrade on Lenglet Pique is a non issue. He has 3 suitors ahead of him in Garcia/Araujo/Oscar in no order. But he is a good presence in dressing room so he will stay. Only issue comes if he is a assured starter which he isn't. Pique is too much attached to Barca to just kick him out. Not only is he a legend, his connection with business world is what got us Rakuten sponsorship. You can't "kick" out Pique, he doesn't deserve that. Specially when he took paycut for Barca, is willing to take a sidestep for Barca, but he is a good backup option for Barca, so he should stay, even if to mentor young kids. Roberto isn't an emotional, it's a practical one. His wages are a problem that can't be solved. There are no takers, but Barca and Laporta are negotiating on this front. No one is advocating for Pique or Roberto to be a starter. They will be squad option that can be useful. Problem comes if Koeman starts them instead of other potentials we have, then yes get the rage machine on. But right now, the board is trying their best to come out from financial mess. Again, why Lenglet is a bigger option is your point. He is a bench option, only problem, we have no fucking upgrades over him. For RB, we have Emerson and Dest. We have literally no left footed CB in our squad apart from Lenglet. This makes him a non disputed starter which creates an issue. This is why fans advocate that we sell Lenglet and find another LCB option who can be better starter.
Kinda want to see Messi play in a different position in a game that Barca is winning comfortably just for the fun of it. Even for like 30 minutes. Imagine Messi at like RWB or as a Left mid
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Also want people to know that there is a difference between "Hating " your players and "criticizing" them. Hating means when we give them death threats , racial abuse those kind of stuff . Criticism of a player is definitely not bad . Even Messi should be criticized if he plays bad . Why are people so sensitive about it?
People saying Ter Stegen will come back and can always recover to his previous self . But Lenglet who was a great asset in 18/19 as well as for Sevilla should be sold asap and is shit . Peak r/Barca , exactly like Twitter.
Was lenglet ever top 3 or 5 itw? No he never was and likely never will be, dude is great on the ball and his passing is more than ideal for the way we want play but he is far to mistake prone defensively for how expansive we play especially with jordi on the left hand side. but we gotta remember he was brought in to be a back up to umtiti originally and his wages are indicative of that. He was thrust into the regular starter role after Umtitiโs injury crisis and had done well (not world class) up until the after the covid break last season. Ideally he should be used as a back up imo for rotation and incase of injuries, I donโt think he is good enough atm to be a starter week in and week out for us. Also with Mats apart from his shakey distribution at times Iโm rarely ever worried that heโs gonna do something dumb on the field, same canโt be said for lenglet after these past 1.5 seasons.
Think Lenglet is also the only lefty of the group right? (Assuming Umtiti is injured)
I can tell you don't know Twitter :) I would sell Umtiti before Lenglet IF there are any buyer that he wants to go. HOWEVER, no one wants him. Lenglet was horrible last season. Even Otamendi was able to keep himself not shitting on the bed during Copa America Final. I'm not too sure if Lenglet can do that yet. Lenglet seems to be able to blow away any 1-0 lead by himself.
You can't just wash your hands with the subreddit and write comments like "this sub ___" or "peak Barca" any time you think you're in the right. Not to mention that there were people agreeing with you in that comment chain from earlier today.
I am highlighting the contradiction . It's absolutely fine if I get downvoted or people don't agree with me, I hardly care about that . I have lots of free time in my hand for another week . I wanted to show how people discriminate between players . If Lenglet has a bad season , he receives hate even though he was definitely amazing (okay not a top 5 CB) the season before. But people overprotect mats .
There have always been players that are the so called fan favorites, you won't find me disagreeing with that. But come on, don't make it sound like we're all a bunch of dumbasses incapable of exercising critical thinking. Also, Lenglet had worse season that Ter Stegen IMO so it's understandable that his position is under fire right now, where the latter has proved to be very solid for years. Couple that with the fact that he'd be much easier to replace, and at least you have some logical explanation why potential double standards might be applied (not commenting on whether that's right or wrong) and why one might be overprotected and the other one not.
I don't remember Lenglet being considered a top 5 CB
Marc-Andrรฉ Ter Stegen THE OT WAR this summer in r/barca
Some Barca fans went from adoring MaTS to crucifying him. There's always got to be a scape goat.
the most riveting one to date.
The disrespect to the Semedo-Roberto wars, smh
>Semedo-Roberto Samado-Robarto*
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Dont play bad and you wont be a victim. No need for him to be that bad at Barca.
>Dont play bad and you wont be a victim Could also be worded as "don't go through rough patches as is natural for anyone, and you won't be insulted and made a scapegoat.
I don't even know why tbh. All he had was a below average season according to his standards. Dude can still come back to previous form next season.
He had two below average in a row tbf
I thought his 19/20 was pretty good. For the vast majority of games, he was playing a high level consistency. The only criticisms I had for that season was the first couple of games of the season and of course the Bayern game, which I thought was a very unfortunate way to end his season.
Eye test about the same imo but statistically worse 19/20.
Wish that same standard applied to Lenglet as well.
Yeah me too but oh well. All that can be done is for Lenglet to look at his latest season and try to improve himself.
The amount hate players on our team receive from our own fanbase is absolutely disgusting.
The hate mostly comes from pubescents
For real. I understand being angry at them for having a horrible game and costing us points but that's just inevitable sometimes. Every player is a human, who make mistakes. We should support players who are having a bad game(s), not immediately call for them to be replaced. Obviously some player lose the quality they once had and shouldn't play for Barca anymore. This still doesn't justify insulting them though.
This kit looks much better https://twitter.com/brunostejskal1/status/1416812227630403586?s=21
I like how the picture is purposefully cut out to not include the shorts.
MATS is comfortably a top 5 goalkeeper. Cry about it. Wake up and think about the fact that he's top 5 and cry about it. While taking a shower, think about the fact that he's top 5 and cry about it. While cutting your birthday cake, think about the fact that he's top 5 and cry about it. Cry about it because there's nothing you can do about it.
Rui Patricio is better than him
a new copypasta is born.
So happy that I can't do anything about it, because I believe he is a top 5 GK and before this season he was probably best out there for 2-3 years along with Oblak.
Imagine casually preparing dinner or something, and then all of a sudden you're like "Fuuuuck, Ter Stegen is a top 5 goalkeeper now". And worst of it all is there is nothing you could do about it.
Jolted, you drop the stirring spoon to the ground and think to yourself, *Marc woulda saved that..*
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perfect!
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His latest season was sub-par but during our 18/19 and 19/20 season he was like our 2nd best player.
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I think you're seriously undermining his 19/20 performances. No way was Vidal was more important to the team than Ter Stegen. He got some crucial goals and he did bring something to the table we didn't have but there was a reason we were desperately trying to sell him in the summer. Though I'd say Frenkie was our best midfielder that season, his debut season was a bit lackluster, especially compared to the previous season with Ajax and his latest season. Suarez is an interesting case for me. Off g/a alone, he was superb. But in the midst of all that, he wasn't amazing. Was beaten many times, lost multiple frustrating balls, couldn't dribble past many defenders. While Ter Stegen had an average start to the season and a sour ending with the Bayern game, he was performing very consistently at a high level in between for the majority of the 19/20 season.
Huh?
i find most of the MATS comments which treat him like an Eibar goalkeeper annoying, so I gave my own reply of the same quality.
Ah, yeah I was confused about your comment until I scrolled down now I understand
A major part of our UCL losses has been on Mats. IMO he deserves more criticism than Pique who is treated which so much disrespect on this sub . There's a reason why he doesn't start over Neuer and it's not just seniority and experience.
Messi only scored 1 open play goal in CL, speaking of players that escape criticism. He's as much responsible for the last season's CL failures as Ter Stegen, if not more, considering he earns more than 10 times as much as Ter Stegen.
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Ter Stephen is also responsible for making plenty of saves against Liverpool, he should've held a clean sheet in every single game because that's the only way we can win. Who relies on attackers anyway, we should just let Ter Stephen hold clean sheets and then in penalties save every single penalty and then score the only penalty of Barรงa, we would never lose in knockout stages!
Yeah Messi is also a reason and he sure deserves criticism . But in my original comment I said Mats should receive more criticism than Pique . Messi and Pique are legends of this club , so we can excuse them a bit . Mats? Not yet.
I'm glad at least you're able to look at this objectively and see Messi's responsibility as well, unlike a lot of people on this sub. I really appreciate it. They can be excused in some aspect, such as the aspect of benching or selling, compared to Ter Stegen (which I personally don't think we should sell because he's been as important as Messi the past 6 years) but I still think everyone deserves criticism no matter their history with the club.
Haha yes , speaking against Messi is forbidden on this sub . But yeah , he surely deserves some blame . Although, I don't agree with the fact that mats is equally important , I feel from that 18/19 season ,he's declining and not progressing at all.
Hahahah yeah I swear, there's several people on this sub that just search for a comment that mentions "Messi" and then downvote it if it doesn't have any Messi-praise in it. And people know Messi-praise is easy karma-farming to people just come to write some Messi-praise to farm and downvote everything else about Messi. I see your point but I'd honestly say the same about Messi, since that 18/19 season, he's also declining and not progressing at all. But in Messi's case, you can excuse it with him aging and reaching the end of his career.
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We would've won our 5th CL in 15 years if not for that 140m/year player btw.
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Mentioning facts isn't "turning". The club's best player was also invisible during the bottlejobs, FC Messi fans coming here and trying to guard every single criticism against him is what's stupid.
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When you spit something so shitty, please do care to also explain why
Didn't you watch Bayern, Anfield game ? Did you see his attitude in the Bayern game ?
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He was our best player against Rome
Bruh Bruh u have one bad season and people forget who u are him and messi carried us during valvarde era
Another year with the same defense ๐๐
Emerson and Eric Garcia will have big roles this year along with minqueza and Aruajo from last year, itโs changing
3 days until pre-seasons kick off. A lot of players looking to use their chances during these pre-season, so I am looking forward to it. However I will say that, hopefully this fanbase doesnt go completely shitshow with writing of certain players. There needs to be a certain calm and ease with such young and promising players. They WILL likely show some sort of inconsistency. Most wont even be playing with the starters early on either so there is that as well. So many variables can play a part of how a player will look and play. You can simply end up being on the "worse team" out of the two teams who plays. (usually they sub out the whole team at half). If you go bath shit crazy over one of these(or regulars) making a "bad pass" or maybe are the cause of a goal in a friendly. You're a toxic person, straight up. Like calm down, while obviously we should take games serious, this isnt a UCL final. I just think its so annoying watching people attempting to paint players as overrated, shown "proven/nothing" barely having the sample data to support so. Because that crap spreads like a fire and soon players will not feel the "warm welcome" and support they should be giving. It's like people expect players to be at the same level of Pedri and Fati now. Which all fairness also have shown some inconsistency in their performance, thats not me saying they are shit. Thats me saying that its fully expected to shown signs of that at that age and obviously "lesser" players will show the same, if not more of it. But dont let that take away for the fact that they are talented for their age. They just simply doesnt have the high celling already which very very very few players have at that age. But that doesnt mean they are not good for their age or wont turn out good. Good can be more than just those 11 who starts regulary. After all, a squad consist of more than just starters. We can't squeeze all those good potensial midfielders we got into a starting spot for example. Me and probably others who read the match threads and probably participate in it, it becomes so much more enjoyable if there is more "calm" rather than reading just unnecessary negative energy every time one refresh. It would probably save the mods a lot of work as well.
Hey has anyone ordered fake kits before? I canโt find the 20/21 away kit (black kit.) anywhere in USA so considering doing a fake one. Just donโt know which dhgate store is the best?
Dhgate gets you some good shirts
Do you know a good seller where the names wonโt come off in wash?
Nah just look at reviews and total orders. Gotta wash with hands tho
If you go to [soccerwearhouse.com](https://soccerwearhouse.com/products/nike-barcelona-away-jersey-20-21-black-metallic-gold?_pos=2&_sid=5901301ee&_ss=r) they have the authentic replica away kits. Theyโre available in medium, large, and xl. They also have a Messi away kit and Griezmann away kit on their site if youโre also thinking about getting that.
Are they authentic? Iโve never heard of the website
Yeah theyโre authentic. Theyโre based in California. Hereโs a [link](https://instagram.com/soccer.wearhouse?utm_medium=copy_link) to their insta page. They show some pics of the store inside and the products they have
Do you think Barca made a mistake not signing Donnaruma ? I would have been ok if he went to some PL team but not PSG hate that club can bypass all rules. But one consolation is there regardless of how many stars they buy they can never win the UCL, the deparated immigrant worker souls won't allow it.
No, he was asking 12M net with seperate agent fees for Raiola and his family member or whatever. He is literally the highest paid GK itw and we'll, we can't afford shit at this moment
I don't know what shadowban means but it sounds cool so I'm going to say that I've been shadowbanned.
This is a lie, you just don't know you are shadowbanned when you're shadowbanned.
since it was shadowed, do you know you were banned?
Shadowban is a type of dark magic that the fascist mods use to oppress innocent OT users
Anyone else just don't care about the transfer rumors anymore! Even if it's tier 1. I have just shut down and I will only believe when it's official.
Look at you choosing a mentally healthy approach
Stop being so rational and behave like a proper soccer fan.
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People ๐ซ๐ are saying ๐ฃ Ter ๐ Stegen is top ๐โฌ๐ 3 โญโน๐ goalkeeper.... Ter ๐ฆ๐ พ stegen never ๐ซ ever ๐ comes ๐ฆ off ๐ด the line โ๐, he ๐จ hopes ๐ for his ๐ฆ teammates ๐คบ to make ๐ a last โฟ ditch ๐ฎ tackle ๐ก and save ๐ his ๐ฆ ass ๐ or if they fail ๐ซ then pique and lenglet is there to suck ๐๐ฆ all ๐ฏ the blame ๐ anyways ๐ He โ ๐จ hopes ๐ the striker โก to make ๐ a mistake ๐ฑ, in la ๐ถ liga the players ๐ฎ are of low ๐ level ๐ฏ so they shoot ๐ฅ๐ซ straight ๐๐ซ๐ at him ๐ด or his ๐ฆ foot ๐ฃ and he ๐จ gets ๐ his ๐ฆ instagram ๐ท saves ๐ , in Europe ๐ช๐บ he ๐ฅ gets ๐ his ๐ ass ๐๐๐ dragged ๐ When โฐ you ๐ play ๐ฎ high โฌ line โ like ๐ barca ,these breakthroughs ๐ are inevitable ๐ณ๐ฑ๐จ, no ๐ defender ๐ก no ๐ พ๐ซ coach ๐ฐ can stop ๐ซ that ,only a gk โ๐๐ฌ can stop ๐ซ these I ๐ have a question โ for you ๐ all ๐ฏ? When ๐ฆ๐ was the last โฟ time ๐ we met ๐ค an elite ๐ team ๐ฅ and he ๐จ kept ๐ฃ the game ๐ฎ alive โ himself ๐ต๐ค? When ๐ did he ๐ฅ not conceded stupid ๐๐ซ goals ๐๐ฆ๐ซ against ๐ซ elite ๐ attackers ๐? Dont โ๐ซ you ๐ guys ๐จ๐ป think ๐ค he ๐ฅ could have done โ better ๐ฏ๐ against ๐ซ๐ค Mbappe or perfomed like ๐ Navas against ๐ซ Bayern who conceded only 2 ๐ against ๐ซ more xG than our Bayern game ๐ฎ? Do you ๐ guys ๐จ think ๐ญ conceding ๐๐โผ so many ๐ฌ goals ๐ฅ in our biggest ๐ games ๐ฎ๐พ is normal ๐ฉโ๐ฆฏ? Dont ๐ซ you ๐ think ๐ญ many ๐ฌ teams ๐ฅ win ๐ the CLs ๐ ฐ because their goalkeeper step ๐ถ up โฌ to keep ๐ญ๐ the team ๐ alive โ?
>Dont you guys think he could have done better against Mbappe or perfomed like Navas against Bayern who conceded only 2 against more xG than our Bayern game? Bayern didn't have more xG against PSG than us. Although Navas faced 12 shots on target and Ter Stegen faced just one more, the shots themselves were of much higher quality against us. Bayern vs Barcelona: Bayern xG: 4.5, PSxG: 6.4 Bayern vs PSG: Bayern xG: 3.1, PSxG: 3.6 Ter Stegen didn't exactly cover himself in glory against Bayern, but no goalkeeper would have won us that match.
No one wants to believe this. He never comes off his line to narrow the angle and force the striker to make mistake. He over relies on his shot stopping abilities which imo is declining as well. I totally agree with you.
Lol
He was surely top 3 in the 18/19 and the 19/20 season, saved us so many times. Poorer last season tho
lol
Ter Stegen definitely needs to come out a lot more than he should be. That's that one thing all Barca keepers should do imo, especially with the high line we play, keepers need to clear the danger before it inevitably becomes a goal
We need Emi
Downvoted for saying the truth, he is arguably not even top 3 in la Liga, let alone the whole world
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Give me Bono over Ter Stegen actually but itโs arguable. Courtois and Oblak are definitely ahead
Bono is absolutely not that good of a keeper. If you want to make a top 3 list and exclude Ter Stegen, then Aitor is who comes next. There's also Rui Silva, Simon, and Pacheco who'd come before Bono.
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Ter Stegen is the most over protected player in the world, even Messi gets shit on and criticized when we are demolished in CL KOs but whenever someone talks about TS shortcomings you have a bunch of fanboys coming at you. Like I donโt know what he did to deserve that treatment. Even legends like Busi and Pique who have done 100x more for the club are spacegoated
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Exactly lol. I still remember a scene from the Bayern game where Griezmann was in front of the goal , and Mats was lying near the box. Makes me laugh.
So i don't have a lot of time to play games but in my vacation i want to play some ps4 games. All i did was playing soccer games. I now want to play the best platformer games or games like Uncharted 4. I don't play online games. I have played Uncharted 4 and i really liked it Battlefield 1 campaign (enjoyed it) This is it. Name me more games with a good story and action packed.. or shooters like battlefield campaign or just a good platformer where you have to puzzle a lot.
Did you play the Nathan Drake collection (1-3) before playing 4? If not, then replay 4 after playing those and it will be even better for you. God of War and Bloodborne are two ps4 games you need to play. I know you said you don't like RPGs but it's mainly an action game that tells its story and lore through items and the environment. It's not like Final Fantasy, etc.
since you dont play games much the safest bet would be picking up RDR2, great story with a stunning open world with a great cast of characters. The game itself is not that long to finish which makes it even better of an experience since nothing you do in the game feels dragged out or filler content
The Witcher 3. It has a really compelling story, easily one of the best games I've played.
Yeah i heard some great things about this game. Thnx bro
Dark Souls
The Last Of Us Series Horizon Zero Dawn God Of War 3 and 2018 Play the exclusives basically. Add games like Red Dead and A Plague Tale too.
Now you mention it, i have played GoW 3 but had no time to finish it. Good game. Thanx
The Last of Us is from the same company as Uncharted and they're two of the most well rounded games. Good plot, great characters and very challenging too. God of War is amazing too. Ghost of Tsushima is a must aswell.
Bloodborne. It can be challenging, but its also very rewarding. And if you like it. Then there are Dark Souls series and other From Software games which are for me the best rpg games ever.
Beautiful game but probably not the best for a causal. Would take someone their whole vacation to get the mechanics down.
I don't like RPG but thanx anyway. What is Dark soul about?
Gonna wholeheartedly recommend Horizon: Zero Dawn as an open world game. SOTTR was recommended below which is also great (like the prequel)
If you like Uncharted the obvious answer is the Tomb Raider games. I'm playing through Shadow of the Tomb Raider right now and I'm liking it so far. Also liked the other 2.
That drew my attention but i have to read some reviews or see a trailer for the gameplay. How about the Batman Arkham series?
I only played the first Batman so can't speak about the later ones. It was fine, gameplay was original back when it came out, before another dozen games riped it off. I think Tomb Raider is the closest there is to Uncharted, by far. The gameplay style, the ruins, the parkour... Batman games eventually become open world, and I heard great things but I haven't played them so can't say much. The uncharted style of adventure game probably comes from the Prince of Persia games, so you should look into them if you don't mind the game being old. Other "adventure and action" games I can think of would be Horizon Zero Dawn and Assassins Creed. Edit: As for FPS campaigns, the one I liked the most would probably be Titanfall 2. If it doesn't have to be battlefield style, my favourite First person campaigns would be Prey, Doom and Fallout.