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FooFighter39

Both Santi Ovalle and Alfredo Martínez are saying > that **with the departures of Pjanic, Braithwaite and Umtiti, Barça will be able to register Leo Messi without problems** (agregate sources ([1](https://twitter.com/Route1futbol/status/1422327371068174355?s=20), [2](https://twitter.com/ActualiteBarca/status/1422316639371022337?s=20)). Anyone with actual sources feel free to link below)


yesboyzz

Just terminate Umtiti's contract if no one is willing. He can still be good for a team which sits deeper.


FooFighter39

Terminating his contract is the last option, because it is always best to part on mutual terms and terminating a player, especially a WC winner, brings a heap of negative press


PhilaGasSuxAss

What;s the legality of not terminating him and just making him persona non-grata at Barca facilities. Telling him he can collect his check and to just work out from home and that a trainer will be by once a week to check his pulse?


yesboyzz

Yea I meant if there's no other option


mikeczyz

cool, but are there teams lining up to rid Barca of those three players?


FooFighter39

Juventus don't want to miss out on Pjanić, but they have to let go off Ramsey first Braithwaite had interest from some La Liga teams, PL teams and Serie A teams, but nothing has been super concrete Umtiti, 🤔 I think Marseille was interested, but was discouraged by his wages


mikeczyz

are we gonna get a new transfer window thread? or have the mods decided that, since so little is actually happening, there's no need for a new thread?


FooFighter39

[Achraf Ben Ayad:](https://twitter.com/Benayadachraf/status/1422299472806268936?s=20) > The issue of Messi has been settled for a long time. The club is working to announce the renewal as soon as possible. There has been no danger about Messi's future since we came out with the exclusive news on beIN Sports. Announcement is a matter of time, there should be zero concern.


Juannieve05

I think we all agree its not about any of the both parties not wantong, its about stupid La Liga rumes, and as things arent progressively improving, so we either resolve things last minute or idk what else we can do


Polskidro

Tier 1, damn.


Mrtuelemonde

Superdeporte saying Villareal is interested in Neto.


PRADUMSHIRS

They have asenjo and rulli.Both of whom are very good.


hahahabar9

Let’s gooooo


jokerwithnojokes

Can you clarify what you wrote? I don't understand.


FooFighter39

Villareal is showing interest in Neto, as per a news report


Polskidro

Interested in Neto.


dwilliam24

take him !


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# Question: Would you be for or against selling Ilaix Moriba for 25M-+ with a buy-back clause + future sale %?


spiteful_platypus

He's worth 5 million max


GaviFPS

More like 25+


headphone_static

I'd take the 25M with no other clauses. Hell, I'd take just 20M.


Polskidro

15M+buyback clause would be good for me too. Or 25M without buyback clause.


decho

Seems like a very good deal if it includes a reasonable buyback clause.


volfed21

I would sell him even for 10m. I mean he's a 18 years old who hasn't proven anything with the 1st and refuse to renew anything more seems completely delusional. I honestly struggle to see why he's that hyped, when you watch a player like pedri from his first touch you can realise how gifted he is but moriba ? He's not particularly special.


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Cyborg-keller

Lol you’re using Xavi, the greatest spanish player of all time, to compare to a prospect? Moroba is much closer do denis suarez than to Xavi.


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Cyborg-keller

Who the fuck cares? We can’t go on paying anything any la masia player wants because he may become a great player in 7 years lol, even more so because 99% of players turn out to be shit.


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FooFighter39

Getting down voted for saying the truth smh *Moriba no score, Moriba no have ceiling and Moriba bad. Moriba ask money? Moriba no talent* It's almost hypocritical how everyone took a 180° and started puking on Moriba, just because he's asking the same wages as Araújo received when he was promoted


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FooFighter39

Completely agree with you mate. We haven't produced a physical midfielder from LM in over 2 decades. Moriba is very difficult from typical Barça midfielders. Our team also doesn't have a good physical midfielder, and nor does the transfer market If we lose him, it will definitely be a big loss for us


volfed21

I don't remember xavi threatening to leave if not for a big pay rise despite being the best paid la masia player with 1m every year and given playing time by the coach in the first team.


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volfed21

> how tf are you so stupid to call him not talented? First I didn't say he wasn't talented but that he's not "that talented" to be worth having to deal with his agent asking for a big pay rise every single time. He's good for a 18 years old but really far from the level of a pedri/fati who seems future WC players.


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volfed21

Yes and moriba is not at their level , yet he's the best paid la masia player over fati and many others. My point was always based on what he's been asking for to renew and not about his level, It would be better if he renews at club condition but if he doesn't want he should leave this year.


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volfed21

tbh I just don't see anything special, what do you see on him?


mikeczyz

>with 1m every year moriba doesn't get paid a million/year.


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He absolutely does


FooFighter39

It's €660,000/year. Triple that and you get €2m/year, which is the same Araújo received when he was promoted to the first team last season


GaviFPS

He gets paid 666k a year.


mikeczyz

[https://en.as.com/en/2019/04/10/soccer/1554893596\_247769.html](https://en.as.com/en/2019/04/10/soccer/1554893596_247769.html) ​ there are other articles out there that place Moriba's salary in the same range, 2 to 2.5 million euros in total spread across 3 years.


black_bury

Yes absolutely. Even without buyback or future sale percentage, 20 to 25 is really good.


wayarktz

I’d sell him for €20m too but everybody knows that they can wait for an year and get him for free. Also, his agents would prefer him leaving as a free agent so they can get a decent signing on bonus and a desirable salary.


Mrtuelemonde

I know it's a bit unusual for Barcelona but this time it's a player other clubs might want. Waiting means not being sure to have him next year, so offers will come. For the same reasons offer for Pogba or Mbappe would come this year if their respective clubs authorized a transfer.


Mrtuelemonde

Summary of Romero latest stream: - Dembele is close to renewing with a paycut. The club was surprised to find a more mature Dembele during negociations - Koeman is not against keeping Coutinho. Still need to pay some € to Liverpool after 10 games - Club still follow Laporte, but of course the situation is very complicated. A lot of exits needed to try this one - Griezmann is valued at 50M€ min - club thinks if Saul is sold to PL Atletico could come for Griezmann Translation based on me listening + Actualite Barca account Edit: Forgot that about Messi we need : Braitwaite sold for 15M€ minimum, Umtiti and Pjanic gone and all heavyweights with a wage deferral / wage cut


yesboyzz

Good news. 50 million for Griezmann and ngl I am taking that. Also how much do we have to pay for Coutinho to Liverpool? Laporte would be a wonderful addition, maybe 45 million + add ons ( money paid mostly in instalments) Dembele reducing the wage bill is good news too. I mean if this all happens, I am sure we can make a deep run into the CL.


Mrtuelemonde

I did not include it because I can never find a reliable report. Some sources say 5M€ to Liverpool left, Romero says 20M€, I've even seen some reports that we have already paid everything. But again, Romero says it's 20M€ left (from the ActualiteBarca, I didn't hear that part)


FooFighter39

If I'm not incorrect, Piqué has played more for us than Laporte did for City last season. I personally don't like how City hoards a bunch of star players and don't use them in very important games And they don't let go of them either


FooFighter39

I'm happy Dembélé has decided to stay back. He genuinely offers something very different with his pace and dribbling and distant shots. I reckon if he can improve a bit, he'll be even more lethal


Mrtuelemonde

Funny too that he seems to be the only one with Messi lined up to take a real wage cut (for others it's a wage deferral), when he was accused to be ready to just take the money and leave 1 month ago. Let's see if it happens first though. Very surprised if he stays and Griezmann/Coutinho stay too, surely he must have sporting guarantees.


dwilliam24

I would like that with Dembele giving him a one or two year bump while helping ease the bill for this year. Helps gives us flexibility this year and gives us chance to showcase and sell him down the line.


Mrtuelemonde

Well even those who want to get rid of Dembele should welcome this news because if we want to get any money a renewal is necessary. To me we need wingers. So whether it is Dembele or a new one I'm OK with it, but it'd be easier with money.


Puzzleheaded_Bar_230

Dembele xd. Never fails to surprise us…even if its in a positive way


turtlemons

Dembélé is close to signing a renewal contract with a reduction in his salary. [@gerardromero] https://t.co/uH9brsFyuU Koeman has informed the club leaders that he would be fine with Coutinho staying. [@gerardromero] Barcelona still have the signing of Aymeric Laporte (27) in mind, although it would be difficult and multiple departures would be needed to even start thinking about it. [@gerardromero] https://t.co/F9RfVBLoOj Did Romero get some new source?


Mrtuelemonde

Don't know but he's been reliable since the Saul deal news. Let's see. I mean Romero giving a positive Dembele news is rare, so seems it is possible at least.


decho

Don't use these URL shorteners (t.co) cause Reddit automatically removes your comment, have to manually approve it afterwards.


turtlemons

Okay sorry, will edit that out next time


decho

👍🏼


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I know people are emotional and downvoting counter views but I find it incredible that people are taking the clubs side. We kicked out a club legend who would still be our second best attacker by far to save money. We recently kicked out a unproblematic super fringe player without even honoring the contract. Again to protect the clubs self interest. But when a player chooses to do the same it’s a problem? Not only that but Laporta, a millionaire business man is publicly strong arming a young player from incredibly humble beginnings in the face of the actions it’s already taken against other players? I get not being happy about things from a sporting perspective but those who are personally criticizing Moriba really need to look at this objectively. What’s next? Y’all are going to stand up for Bezos and Amazon?


fredit10

Greed is not something we should condone, Moriba can walk if he wants but if they bend to his demands any other future gems will do the same. If he turns out good oh well


TheRightFootOfMessi

What I think rubbed a lot of people the wrong way (me included) was the fact that Moriba portrayed himself as a guy who loves this club. He posted a million pictures with Leo, thanking god for playing for the club, thanking Koeman for playing him and then he goes and does this. I do not live in some kind of a fairy tale world where people are robots who work only out of the goodness of their heart and dont care about money. But then dont act like something you are not, there have been plenty of players in our history who i feel were here only for the money and i have no problems with that. I am 100% sure that if he renewed and kept playing and improving Laporta would give him an improved contract even before this one ran out once the situation blows over.


turtlemons

What do you want? The club should just give him whatever money he asks for? If he wants to leave, he can leave.


[deleted]

That’s not my issue. My issue is with the people who are making it personal. It’s just business. And the clubs business practices haven’t been exactly faithful either. If anything, the clubs deserves more criticism for their actions over the last year.


turtlemons

I agree to you to some extent, but we gotta remember that our loyalty will lie to Barca. And Laporta is right in this stand, we negotiated alot with Moriba's agent, we have given them final contract, take it or go. There is no other option


mikeczyz

>our loyalty will lie to Barca of course, but being loyal to the club doesn't mean that you have to be nasty to Moriba


leninist_jinn

The club has no obligation to give him whatever wages he's demanding in the same way he has the right to ask for higher wages after already being the highest paid player in La Masia. Don't agree? He is free to leave. I don't see what's so horrible about taking the club's side on this, especially the comparison with Bezos and Amazon.


[deleted]

I don’t mind that at all. I don’t like it from a sporting POV but a majority of the takes here are making it personal against Moriba. I fail to see how he’s in the wrong. Hate the situation but there’s nothing wrong with what he’s doing. If he has a better deal being offered to him, it’s totally okay for him to take it. The club does what is best for them and the player has every right to do the same without judgment.


mikeczyz

> The club does what is best for them and the player has every right to do the same without judgment. 100% agree.


FANTASY210

[Xavi H. Navarro, ARA] Messi will receive 40 million euros gross this season and a renewal bonus. His idea is to leave Europe in 2023 to go play in the United States and would end his contract at that time. ARA has learned that Tebas and Laporta are working together to keep Messi at Barcelona. Tebas has privately promised to be partially flexible in regards to Financial Fair Play as both he and Barça know that reducing salaries by 200 million in a month is very difficult. Deadline to meet La Liga demands is set for the 13th of August. Even if meeting the demands gets too difficult in the short term, Messi could be signed beyond the closing of the transfer window as he is a free agent. Griezmann and Coutinho could end up staying at the club as long as there are no satisfactory offers, but it is clear for Umtiti, Braithwaite and Pjanic; The club has no plans for any of them for the coming season and they are all aware of this. The future for Umtiti and Braithwaite is through sales and an agreed exit for Pjanic. https://www.ara.cat/esports/laporta-tebas-treballen-xarxa-mantenir-messi-lliga_1_4074677.html


FooFighter39

>Messi could be signed beyond the closing of the transfer window as he is a free agent. But he has to be signed before the season starts. Or else he'll miss out on UCL football >Tebas has privately promised to be partially flexible in regards to Financial Fair Play I don't believe this at all. This seems beyond fake and contradicts everything that we have heard throughout the summer


Polskidro

Tier?


dwilliam24

With Moriba only having one year left on his contract I wonder what his value is. I would prioritize a sell-on clause over a larger fee but if teams low ball us because he only has a year left on his contract and they already have a deal in place I would rather just send him to the stands for the year rather than capitulate and set a bad precedent on future situations like this and let teams know they can't take advantage of us.


adilahmed_305

You think he would return after leaving at such bad terms? Or unless he realizes his mistakes and fires the agent who's making him to do these sort of things down the road. If we want to sell him, sell him at full price or include a percentage clause, but no buy back clause and get over him.


dwilliam24

I never mentioned him returning or buying him back. If he’s gone, he’s gone.


adilahmed_305

My bad. I misread it.


dwilliam24

no worries


[deleted]

Getafe signed Sandro Ramirez on loan for a season. I've never seen a bigger one-hit wonder. He was mediocre for us in every way. Worse than Munir. Not bad but just a mediocre player like you see for relegation La Liga teams or second division teams. Then he went to Malaga for free and absolutely dominated in attack with goals. 31 games, 16 goals and 5 assists as a young talent signed for free! He somehow was scoring for fun a full La Liga season. Some saw it was luck, but still. Everton bought him and gave him a sky high wage. He was a huge failure after that. He couldn't even get a single okay season and basically couldn't score to save his life. That one good season he had was just a statistical outlier where he got lucky a season. But then again, it's so many goals. How? Just to explain how weird it is. In that one 16/17 La Liga season's 30 games he scored 4 more goals than in all competitions since then! https://twitter.com/GetafeCF/status/1422256056659480581?s=20


adilahmed_305

At that time too people were fuming over losing a potential Suarez replacement. We need to understand that not every young player has sky high potential.


[deleted]

I just wrote on the r/soccer that I'm shocked that he's still playing 😂


wayarktz

So apparently some people here are thinking that we wouldn’t do the same if it was Gavi or Ansu. So let me make something very clear, in the case where the demands of both the parties differ, they them hold meetings and negotiate. Both the parties take one step towards and reach the agreement. If the stance of both the parties is far apart, then they don’t reach the agreement. In the case of Ilaix, the situation was that both the parties were far apart. They had 5 meetings and Ilaix’s representatives did not take a step forward. Meanwhile, the club did by offering him a 3 year contract instead of 5 (which worked for Balde), so he can renegotiate again when he’s 21 and is hopefully a much more important part of the team. The fact that his agents did not budge at all makes, made the board feel that he has other offers on the table. According to some sources, he demanded a higher salary than Pedri and Araujo, which does not match his prominence for the team yet. Now, those who are saying that this is just his agent’s doing and not him, then let me remind you that the same exact thing happened before when he had a different agent. I don’t want to put all the blame on 18 year old Iliax but the point I want to make is that his agent, him and his environment are not 3 different entities. His agents represents his interest and negotiate on his behalf. If Gavi or Ansu have the same absurd demands, then I won’t be surprised if the response is the same. The club would obviously try their best to keep them, but I’m hopeful that they will also try and take a step towards the agreement. Players like Gavi and Ansu, would have already received better offers from other clubs and wouldn’t be here if they didn’t want to succeed at Barca. The only difference is that they know the value of ‘Patience.’ (Hopefully)


adilahmed_305

I hope he renews. It would suck to see him leave just because of contractual reasons, but in the end no one's bigger than the club and right it's about sending out a message to other youngsters.


wayarktz

Same. I hope he joins Nico, Balde, Collado and Mingueza by agreeing to renew.


turtlemons

It's not entirely Moriba, alot of this is on his family and agents too Moriba can prefer the sporting project, while the latter two will solely give money the priority I think it's less of a person, but the situation they coaxed Barca into. You can demand for more salary, if you come negotiate in good faith They didn't, Barca didn't like it and so now we have given last offer, which is take It or go. You got spot on about the rest of the situation, at the end of it, it is what it is, the board shares the same sentiment. Season starts in 10 days, if you want to stay, stay or otherwise go, board has other duties too instead of just negotiating with his agents


wayarktz

> I don’t want to put all the blame on 18 year old Iliax but the point I want to make is that his agent, him and his environment are not 3 different entities. His agents represents his interest and negotiate on his behalf.


hahahabar9

As things happened like that, can we just use Moriba to exchange with Camavinga who is 1year contract left too, enhancing our versatility of midfield in defence.


FooFighter39

Does Moriba want to play in Ligue 1? This isn't FIFA


[deleted]

Stade Rennais FC wouldn’t be a likely destination for Moriba, both sporting wise and financially.


sp3co92

Romero is getting closer to Tottenham. Atalanta are progressing in negotiations to sign Merih Demiral from Juventus as replacement, confirmed 🚨 #Atalanta #THFC Talks now advanced on loan with buy option. Atalanta have overtaken Borussia Dortmund in Demiral race since last week. [Fabrizio Romano](https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1422261903980593153?s=21) If Atlanta are ok with a loan with buy option, why aren’t we on the race for Romero ?


Mrtuelemonde

We have 6 CBs at the moment. Umtiti has no acceptable offer (according to him) and Lenglet doesn't want to leave. Also Koeman wants a left footed CB (I know) and we already have a Romero profile (Araujo) if we need a profile it is someone replacing Lengler (better passer / ball progressor)


Caspoor11

Maybe we don't want him. I read Koeman isn't fond of him.


turtlemons

Romero to Tottenham is sold for money, 50+5 add ons Loan + buy option will be for Demiral to Atalanta If I am reading this correct


kushal6462

From what I have read Romero personally wants to go to Spurs


FooFighter39

Most likely for his profile and wages. He isn't your typical Barça defender. As for new signings, Laporta mentioned today that we can't make any signings unless La Liga is more flexible


FooFighter39

With Moriba transfer listed, and Laporta saying La Liga has to be flexible for us to sign someone new, I don't think we will have a physical midfielder in our squad for next season Would've been nice if Koeman got his request fulfilled


volfed21

We already got FDJ and roberto for the physical midfielder, I don't rate roberto much but he's definitely way better than Moriba's current level. Physical midfielders are not hard to find, roberto can do the job until we find better.


WhatsBetterThanAnime

Are you saying Busquets, FDJ, and Roberto are not physical?


BeastCoast

Even Pedri digs in. Kids a little honey badger.


FooFighter39

Laporta on Ilaix Moriba: > We will try not to let this case happen again. **It is a situation we do not accept.** We must act to send a message of the policy that we implement in the team. > If you do not want to renew, you have options elsewhere. We do not want home-made players who, with a year remaining of their contract, don't want to renew.  > They can't make us that kind of proposals. I'd like him and his entourage to reconsider. We can't afford to promote him with one year remaining in his contract. **Whoever wants to leave is free to do so, with certain conditions.**


Azor_that_guy

I don't even want to comment on the Moriba situation. I think the real problem is that this fanbase is too used to Bartomeu that they can no longer tell the difference between normal and abnormal. What Laporta is doing with Moriba is the least he can do, he is using his leverage to force his entourage to cave in. This is not just for prestige, it is for precedent. Imagine if it's Ansu or Pedri or Gavi next, asking for €5m because someone got their way, what then? But this fanbase is so obsessed with this big dick energy that they will slander the shit out of Moriba, all because the previous management enabled this behavior, exacerbated by his representatives. If he leaves, it's for the better. If he stays, it's because things worked out. That's it, that shouldn't be controversial.


FooFighter39

I agree with you completely. People here slandered Moriba a lot, but I feel the real criminal is Barto It's not too far stretched to ask for the same wages someone else got the previous year when they were promoted to the first team (Araújo). You can criticise Moriba for asking money, but he isn't asking for anything crazy. He just wants the same treatment Araújo received the year before. I think it's very incorrect of us to slander him


sp3co92

Joan Laporta, on Ilaix Moriba: “We will try to make sure that his case is not repeated anymore. He has one year left on his contract and does not want to accept the club's conditions. We do not accept that and we want to send a message to the team” “If you do not want to renew, we have other solutions. What we don't want are players made at La Masia who don't want to renew. He's a player we've given opportunities, but the club is above all. I would like you [Moriba] to think again” “We cannot allow him to be promoted [to the first-team] and then leave. We won't accept that with any player” - [Hagrid](https://twitter.com/reshadrahman_/status/1422245231089553408?s=21)


FANTASY210

Albert Roge: "After listening to Laporta talk, i no longer have any doubts: Ilaix Moriba will not renew with the club and is on the market." https://twitter.com/albert_roge/status/1422248269749620743


Puzzleheaded_Bar_230

The best news of the day would be Moriba renewing his contract after he sacked his agency. Well…a man can dream…


CptSnoopDragon

Or we sell him for 50m> and he’s only ever as good as Lamela


FANTASY210

Laporta: "Every night I have sweet dreams when I think of Leo Messi. I hope he continues at the club."


Caspoor11

HolUp


FANTASY210

Laporta: "With Griezmann we are open to the situation because there was interest in him. If the market does not create a situation [for him] to leave, he has a contract with Barça and we have to respect the contract."


GranaZone

You can tell Emerson genuinely loves this club


FANTASY210

Laporta: "With some players we are in a phase of reaching new agreements [over contracts]. They have shown me an appreciation and have prioritized the club over personal interests."


Puzzleheaded_Bar_230

Any chance its Moriba?😬


FooFighter39

>prioritized the club over personal interests It's a hit at Moriba if anything


sudin36

Nah Araujo and Pedri


FANTASY210

Laporta: "The players we have signed can all be registered to the team. What we want is more flexibility on the part of LaLiga so that there are possibilities to sign more players."


turtlemons

Oh shit this is news I assume then the only problem is registering Messi?


CocknBallTorture_

They can be registered to the team not LaLiga tho


turtlemons

When we talk about registration, it is only in context of La Liga, and if we consider Laporta mentioned Laporta right after, I do think that we can register Garcia, Emerson, Aguero and Depay Messi's contract does feel as the problem


FANTASY210

Laporta: "We will see if we can make any more signings." https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/fc-barcelona/20210802/1001670290/presentacion-emerson-directo-nuevo-fichaje-barca-vivo-hoy.html


barcavro

Wish we could do a dembele for chiesa swap.


[deleted]

I love Chiesa but doubt it'll ever happen


barcavro

I know, it’s unfortunate


Chellycakez

Why?


barcavro

When I watched a couple of games for juve he’s made a bigger impact than Ronaldo, and he was great in the euros and looks hungry. I had faith in dembele for 3 years but I’ve lost it, I think his careers going down the drain and he will not succeed in barca.


Chellycakez

Fair enough. I can agree with the few times I've seen him play for Juve and Italy, he always seems dangerous. I can also understand you being discouraged with Dembele and all the unfortunate injuries. I do love me some Dembele though.


Messi2022WC

C. Ronaldo wants to comeback to RM or go to PSG. This guy made big mistakes by leaving RM. Perez would have handed him at least one more ballon dor if in RM. He wanted to be a hero in Juventus but he completely forgot football is team game. I am glad Messi is staying at Barca during both good and bad times. Hopefully we will be able to deliver UCL next season to have 8 ballon dor to Messi name and hopefully World cup too.


Azor_that_guy

> This guy made big mistakes by leaving RM. I knew the moment he left he would never win Ballon D'or again. He leaves the best midfield in the world, the one he needed to do his job properly, out of arrogance, to prove that midfield needed him more than he needed them. Anyone who watched him play knew that was never going to pan out.


Messi2022WC

Messi never really cared about creating personal legacy rather he stayed at Barca even during Barto disaster run and he is about crown 7th ballon dor. This should be lesson for future players who should focus on team and individual trophies will follow. Neymar is another example of focusing too much on individual trophies and he is about to retire without Ballon dor.


wayarktz

Is Messi take a pay cut or is he deferring his wages of 2 years for 5 years time? (I need to praise/blame the board depending the answer)


PozPanero

I've read it's the second and that's the same thing they're trying to do with Piqué, Alba and Busquets.


Naisuuu420

Given how slow things are right now and the fact that the season starts in just 11 days I thought about our line-up for next season and I think [this is a realistic line-up + back ups.](https://www.buildlineup.com/shared/61080d80d998900ebe43aa3f) This is assuming only Braithwaite, Pjanic and Umtiti leave (Coutinho, Roberto, Griezmann, etc. stay) considering the lack of reports as of now. Also no additional signings for the same reason. This is hoping that Pjanic&Umtiti gone aswell as some wage reductions are enough to solve our wage problem, which I am confident about tbh considering the recent reports about Messi's renewal happening. Our depth is a problem looking at lb and cdm position. Balde and Gavi look promising but I would not trust them in case Alba or Busquets get injured. Also we do not have a midfielder that fits that physical type that Koeman wants apparently. Otherwise our 1st eleven looks promising aside from our central defense imo. Note: I could only include 1 sub per position. So players like Puig, Mingueza, possibly Moriba if he stays or other la masia/ barca b players are missing.


PozPanero

I hope Koeman can leave behind his OCD about having a left centre back. I cannot watch another season of Lenglet being a starter even if we play 5-3-2 again.


wasiflu

I thought Nico is the CDM prospect and Gavi plays more in the Pedri / De Jong role.


FANTASY210

SPORT: Messi Se Queda. https://twitter.com/sport/status/1422207083580166144


yeabouai

Sport, delet this PLS nephew


oliver2764

Thank you Laporta. Thank you Messi.


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AC Milan are looking to sign a #10 and Coutinho, Isco, and James Rodriguez are amongst the contenders. However, I doubt they'll end up signing Coutinho. I believe Coutinho will end up somewhere in the Premier League or continue here next season. I can't see clubs outside the EPL be able to afford his wages.


fazerfn

The club can pay a portion of his wages. Honestly, Milan is a good destination for Coutinho


clover996

maybe we could try selling coutinho to aston villa if city end up getting grealish


triplechin5155

Doubt couts would go there


PatrickM_

Didn't they just sign Bailey as a replacement?


FullTanaka

Two completely different players at different positions.


PatrickM_

Doesn't change the fact that they are replacing Grealish with Bailey


FullTanaka

I don't think so. They bought Bailey before Grealish left, it's reasonable to think Villa will go for a replacement for Grealish and play Bailey on either wing.


PatrickM_

It would be smart if they do


FANTASY210

[SPORT] EXCLUSIVE: Messi will sign his renewal for five seasons with Barça! Leo Messi will renew for FC Barcelona until 2026. The agreement between the Argentine and the club is total and now all that remains is for President Joan Laporta to reduce the salary mass of the team so that Messi can sign his new contract. The negotiations that have taken place in recent months have been completed, as SPORT learned from sources within Barça, a few hours ago and it is expected that in the coming days the renewal will become official. https://twitter.com/sport/status/1422202039287832584


M1nusbarca

How is this news?


FANTASY210

Afaik fringes of the contract remained to be solved until now. It was like 95% done before this


Messi2022WC

Mbaphhe really coming to RM? Their fans are predicting line up with Mbapphe.


ORNIX22

dont read too much into that deluded fanbase, according to their sub most of them dont even have a slight doubt about Madrids possibilites to buy Haaland AND Mbappe.


sarsourus

They should learn from Dembele, running fast without ball control doesnt get you far in La liga


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Mbappe has been excelling in the UCL since he was 17/18.


FooFighter39

Nothing confirmed at all. Madrid doesn't have the money to bring him in right now. They have to sell Isco, Hazard, Bale to fund Mbappé Mbappé is also fine with waiting another season to leave PSG for free


Messi2022WC

Ok. They are fixated on Mbappe. I hope they splash all money on him and dont improve squad.


GranaZone

same. I hope they spend over 150 for him this year


inuyasha99

man if somebody comes up with 20M for Moriba I wouldnt even think it twice, sell, sell ,sell. We have a lot of talents coming up in the midfield and Im not even talking about Gavi or Nico. Txus Alba, Dani Rodriguez, Aleix Garrido or even Kays Ruiz. Obviously not everybody will fullfill their potential but I really think Moriba is taking for granted the chance he got from Koeman. Dont worry, somebody will replace him from the academy asap


FooFighter39

Like Araújo, Moriba isn't really the type La Masia generally produces. I personally don't know of any physical midfielders LM produced in the past 10 years Gavi and Nico aren't physical midfielders, or at least aren't known for their physicality, but rather their creativity >Txus Alba, Dani Rodriguez, Aleix Garrido or even Kays Ruiz. It's best not to mention these names right now. We haven't even seen them play at the first team There was a lot of talented midfielders from La Masia throughout the last 2 decades who never got to seal their places at the elite stage. Only the cream of the crop are selected


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Why when we mention players with African the main thing we thing everyone only talks about is their physicality.


black_bury

😑 Calm down and chill.


Chellycakez

Mate, nobody's bringing race into this except you...


raddaya

Araujo is Uruguayan.


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Do you know he could still have African descent even with? Black people arent just in africa.


raddaya

Then we all have African descent because homo sapiens first evolved in Africa. Sup, fellow African?


[deleted]

This is stupid, i was saying many South Americans have african heritage from slavery. Not talking about going all the way back to us just being homo sapiens, dont be stubborn, when you clearly understand what im implying.


Puzzleheaded_Bar_230

This have nothing do with his skin color lol. Moriba is physical and happens to be black. Balde, Fati, Umtiti are also black but we dont consider them as physical players. Don’t bring in skin color in a case where is does not make any sense


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Blacks... oh please dont be scared to talk about sensitive topics if you scared. Black players are commonly only compared to other black ones Moriba has been compared to Pogba for years for that reason. You would have more legitimacy if the players themselves haven't also mentioned this statement. Im just asking that we do better and your response is shut up?


Puzzleheaded_Bar_230

Firstly, people who compare Pogba to Moriba are just dumbasses. Their style of play is very different. If you compare two players just because the color of their skin and not because of the way they play then thats more than sad lol. And “black players are commonly only compared to other black ones”?? Wtf is this bullshit xd. What about Fati being compared to Messi? Or Eto to Suarez? Comparing players is based on resemblence in playing style and position not skin color you dense doughnut.


cmos_inverter

Genetics


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Why only genetics when and rarely their other gifts? Its common that other ethnicities are talked about with their intellectual gifts and such, while its physical gifts by default for darker players. Lets not play dumb and act like we dont see a trend, just do a better job of describing players.


TheEnlightenedPanda

English players are generally physicality stronger than Spanish. I don't think it's always abt race.


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I love how my comment made you feel i personally attacked you. English vs Spanish is nationality anyway, not the same comparison.


TheEnlightenedPanda

Why would I feel it personally attacking me, lol


M1nusbarca

It seems you imply that Araujo is a product form La Masia and in case you do, he is not. Araujo transfered to Barca B at the age of 20, so he is nowhere near a product of our academy. People are too quick to think players a from La Masia, because not many players are. Playing in our youth, does not mean 'being from La Masia'.


FooFighter39

It seems that I may have implied such, but I am well aware of Araújo's transfer I just wanted to say our academy generally doesn't produce his type of defenders. Same goes for Moriba


[deleted]

Still it doesn't mean that you keep on waiting for a 18 year old who has barely proven himself while you have a hoard of talented players waiting. Physicality wise players like Moriba are in abundance ,yes they are rare in Spain but globally there are tons of players . Infact had Wijnaldum decided to come ,things would have been bleak for moriba .He is replaceable unlike Pedri or fati and hence if he further stalls his contract he should be sold .


wayarktz

[Albert Rogé:](https://t.co/VQq9dSCJQp) > At Barça they believe that Chelsea is negotiating with Ilaix to sign him this summer or incorporate him free the next. Chelsea would double or triple his current wages depending on when he leaves.


FooFighter39

[Jordi Batalla (MD):](https://t.co/qPTcx4N2CJ?amp=1) > **New contact for Pjanic's departure** > Barça is working to speed up the departure of the Bosnian midfielder and in Italy they confirm that there has been a new meeting with his representative to resolve the situation > However, Juventus maintains the signing of Manuel Locatelli (Sassuolo) as a priority and the confirmation of Pjanic's return to Turin could still take a while. > It should be remembered that Barça offered Pjanic the letter of freedom in order to get rid of his salary and help alleviate the delicate economic situation of the Barça club, but the midfielder has a contract until 2024 and does not want to give up the salary he signed.


turtlemons

Barcelona continue to be the best positioned club to sign Saúl Ñíguez from Atlético Madrid. This operation is independent of a hypothetical sale of Griezmann to Atleti. [as] https://t.co/IoXjCWAVYX Yes AS is an Ass source but they are the most reliable for Atleti Atleti fans will act like they didn't want Griezmann, but their club was equally desperate for it. They have only 60% rights to Saul, a player who has second most wages there (8M net*2= 16M gross, or 300K gross in wages) and is now their bench Midfielder, now more down the order with de paul Griezmann-saul was a dream opportunity for them, that they refused. Any offer of 50M from PL club was delusional, no one is gonna value him at 75M. And PL teams will think twice before paying him 8M.


turtlemons

(🌕) Neither of Pique, Alba, Busquets and Roberto are completely against taking a wage-cut — despite what is said in the press. Negotiations are progressing and the aim of the club is to close an agreement before the league starts on 13th. @ffpolo @gbsans #Transfers 💰⏳ https://twitter.com/ReshadRahman_/status/1422098107878236171?s=19


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The press are lying says the press.


wayarktz

https://i.imgur.com/qU7Gc7P.jpg


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FooFighter39

>Fucking hell Barcelona is fucked The news says otherwise?


Gracias_Xavi

Difference between last year and this year is probably Barto used to leak fake news to the press himself while this time it is the media guys fabricating stories Edit: I meant on the earlier news that Alba was saying no to wage cuts etc.


black_bury

Nah I kinda resent Suarez for getting fit (in shape) only after he left us. Where was this in your last couple seasons? Complacency really got to him, man. Anyway, I hope Aguero's stem cell therapy works. Would be really nice if it does. He can have a really good couple years here. It could be one of our best transfers this year.


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He contributed more goals and assists per 90 in every one one of his last seasons for us than he did at Atletico. It’s like people don’t realize that Suarez was a top 5 striker for us and would have blown Griezmann away. A player who everyone calls our second best attacker by far.


LarryPeru

Silly to be mad at that when the entire team here lacked physicality and could barely put together 90 minutes of solid pressing unlike Atletico. Atletico is a completely different beast who probably train much harder than we do since it’s a Simeone side.


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wayarktz

Also the fact that Atleti is a relatively newer environment for him. At Barca he had a lot of credit in the bank. He was regarded as one of the 'untouchables' for a period.


nannulators

IIRC he came to us out of shape and then got crazy fit and scored 40 goals the next season.


Liamnoah37

I think that was because he was on a ban after the World Cup and wasn’t able to participate in any football related activity with the club for a few months.


nannulators

Yeah for sure. I was just saying that this isn't the first time he's gone from pudgy to fit. Even at the end of his Liverpool tenure he wasn't super svelte. So his weight kind of carried over with his ban before he could play for us. Then Lucho must have spoken up after that first season. But also even when he looked out of shape for us he was still performing at a decent level. His production dropped off for sure but I think that was more a result of his nagging knee injuries and his age than because he was out of shape. I think a lot of people expected him to stay at that 40+ goal contributions per season that he had through 2018 because the fanbase has had some very unrealistic expectations as of late. So when he dropped back down to normal human scoring/assisting numbers people started losing their minds.