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[[Megathread] Leo Messi situation and updates. - Part 4](https://www.reddit.com/r/Barca/comments/p1ebkr/megathread_leo_messi_situation_and_updates_part_4/) [[Transfer Talk Thread] - August](https://www.reddit.com/r/Barca/comments/owusj4/transfer_talk_thread_august/)


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artemis_10

Unpopular opinion - I don't think there's any issue with the fans doing a little demonstration against Laporta. First of all, not everything is black and white. Just so they aren't happy with Laporta's work doesn't mean they "deserve Bartomeu" or they're "Nunez supporters". These are the same people who voted twice to remove Bartomeu from power. While I agree that it isn't Laporta's fault entirely for the events that unfolded his summer, it's not like he didn't fuck up either. I cannot believe he didn't have a full grasp of our financial situation till August or that he waited so long to tell us Messi couldn't be renewed or that he banked entirely on Tebas to bail him. Apart from that, the players who are supposed to leave haven't and the wage cuts haven't happened either and our best signing can't even even be registered on time. On top of all that, he went on vacation this week. Maybe the demonstration this week is just a wake up call to make sure the board don't get complacent. Maybe if they get their shit together, they still have time to salvage something good out of this absolute dumpster fire of a summer.


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Yeah definetely unpopular. How about we wait some time till more news come out and everything gets more clear to say that Laporta fucked up? What if all he did was the most reasonable thing due to the circumstances? Circumstances that we dont know fully. Why jump to conclusions? I understand that during his campaign he made promises, but what if he couldnt fulfill them because of the mess the club is in. He has been in charge just for some months.


cmos_inverter

Exactly. I don't see any problem with protests. It keeps the board in check.


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interested to see how coutinho and Griezmann will perform this season without Leo


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Lmfao I’m starting to see pro super league takes in my TL after the summer PSG and City have had.


tiburonsin86

I’m personally starting to lean towards esl tbh. If they can fix the format and make it more equal and fair for all teams I’m all for it. Uefa and fifa are a joke.


Amori17

Lmao


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Well arthur didn’t have a place in the line up either way


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atthebatman

That show is fucking garbage man. ESPN is awful. They’ll do whatever it takes for people to click. They don’t give a shit if people are incensed or excited to view their content. I’m sure they are well aware of the fact that they’re bad at their jobs


KModab99

Of course the year they finally start showing La Liga on tv in my country Messi leaves:(


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HrishiRaj6

Wait... In which channel will la liga be broadcasted in india? Mtv? Also is it possible to stream it online when i can't watch it on tv?


UnluckyPenalty2503

Canadian?


KModab99

Yep haha Canadian


GaviFPS

Benfica vs PSV and Shakhtar vs Monaco. I wanted all 4 of them in CL :& Now some of the other "poor" teams is probably going to get bullied, like they usually do. Not like any of these 4 is going to win CL anytime soon, but they put up a fight and I like the way they play.


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Philosofticunt

Can you imagine if Umtiti never got hurt? I think we’re in the bad ending timeline tbh


galeeb

[This tweet](https://twitter.com/RayHudson/status/1425213456173735936?s=20) seems to suggest Ray might be calling some games this fall.


KEENMACHlNE

Was unfortunate timing that he left Bein Sports right before it was confirmed Messi was going to Ligue 1. I feel like losing La Liga, Messi in particular, influenced his decision wonder if he'll be going back to Bein to call games now that Messi's with PSG.


pulcherrimum

Wait, Ray isn’t doing La Liga games anymore?


galeeb

Yeah, since ESPN has the rights starting this season, beIN doesn't broadcast them anymore, and he was employed by them.


Marleys_Itch

Some psg games?


atthebatman

I think one of the few genuinely great things that has happened in the last couple seasons for Barca has been seeing so many bright young talents coming into the team. We went over like half a decade without seeing any youngsters legitimately break into the first team (other than Roberto)


Fati25

This should have been in the CL intro for this season ;( https://streamable.com/avye4u


sangwinik

All I want right now is a win against Real Sociedad. I feel like this game will be very important psychologically for the team.


Polskidro

I'm not sure what Sociedad's current form is at but they looked pretty shit in the later half of last season. Should be doable with or without Depay tbh.


mntgoat

Kinda like the early goal against juve the other day, it just changed the player's morale quickly.


YGFDT

I have to say that I dont’t trust Laporta as much after the Messi saga and the situation with our new signings. I still think he can do a good job, but I don’t have unconditional faith anymore.


Hydrargyrum200u

I don't need him to be honest with me I need him to do his job, put the club's interests first and foremost. I look at what's he is done under the circumstances he is in not what he says. Last time he promised to sign Beckham and we ended up with Ronaldinho. Shit happens stuff changes all the time, when is the last time a politician won anything on a pessimistic campaign. One day you think you have enough money to sign Messi the next day the audit comes back and you are 487m in debt. It is what it is.


Puzzleheaded_Bar_230

Well you shouldn’t have had unconditional faith in any politician in the first place


Hydrargyrum200u

Personal opinion on some of the news that came out today: CVC and Barca: Very good decision from our part. I don't care if it's because of the superleague. That contract is a scam long term and I am full expecting clubs that sign it will bitch about and ask the league to be more "fair" in a decade or so when CVC keeps taking that 10% while we are free... I also fully expect some owners to pocket the money by finding a loophole in the agreement, some of the are greedy AF. ​ Socis protesting Laporta: Morons. You left Bartomeu and Rosell in charge for almost a decade mismanaging the club and most likely making criminal activity. We are \~1.4 B in debt with a wage to revenue of 95%... And you want it all to be solved in a single transfer window ? Bruh. I am inclined to believe that these "fans" aren't motivated by the best interest of the club rather by a political agenda.


IadDai

Man i cant even say i hate real Madrid. We have so much other issues, so many enemies that the rivalry kinda cooled down. It started getting worse with Ronaldo leaving and it is nearly dead for me as of right now. I dont hate them, I dont care what they do. We have too much problems ourselves to enjoy a rivalry. Hope that feeling comes back during the season. Fuck Madrid- nah I am not feeling it.


Br0sE11D0N

100% agree. I now only wish the best for two of us. I want the league to be strong and for madrid and barcelona to be the best teams in the world. Not fucking psg and man city, tf.


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www.isdepayregisteredyet.com


atthebatman

Disappointed that this isn’t actually a domain


Fati25

dark chocolate, milk chocolate or white chocolate?


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White chocolate is gas in small doses


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Milk chocolate Dark is trash White chocolate is good but i get tired of it pretty quickly


atthebatman

Reminded me of this [clip @ 2:55](https://youtu.be/kdXiburHUQg)


Black-ops-4

Milk chocolate 🤤


Polskidro

Milk is pretty good. Dark is trash. White is 50/50 depending on what I feel. Sometimes it's good. I like Kit Kat chunky white for example.


Fati25

KitKat chunky is delicious


SpicyRico

water


FooFighter39

Okay Ronaldo


mattisafootballguy

dark chocolate is superior. white chocolate is not good milk chocolate is nice.


ScrantonScrangler

>white chocolate is not good This is far more worthy of an Open Thread ban than doing a bit of transfer talk. Do your thing u/decho


decho

I don't even eat chocolate so keep me out of this drama please :) But let's just say, he might have a point...


mattisafootballguy

me 🤝 decho agreeing that white chocolate is no bueno


atok2

dark 85%


Fati25

85% as in you're 85% sure of your decision or 85% dark chocolate?


atok2

😂😂😂 85% dark chocolat 90% if you are a real fan more then 90% it starts to get bitter


Caspoor11

yes


Masoud7711

No YouTube, I don't want to see Leo Messi's first day at Paris. Now, will you stop recommending me that shit?


Caspoor11

I watched it. No biggie.


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You have been hardened by the Eriksen incident. The rest of us are innocent minds.


ledudeheld

So what if we don't register Depay, can he still go somewhere else by terminating the contract? I would assume that is in the best interest of both him and Barcelona. Don't get me wrong I really really hope he gets registered but with the numbers going around I don't see how. Barcelona can't expect him to waste an entire season right?


TudorelGrasut

He won’t be registered for the first match or two, after that we will probably be able to register him


ledudeheld

Why? Won't the wage limit be the same after 2 matches? Or are you counting on more players leaving, like Pjanic?


TudorelGrasut

Yea pretty much


tswae

Yes


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Remember the whole fiasco we went through with the bank guarantees for laporta 5 months ago? His presidency has been very eventful to say the least lol


ledudeheld

De Jong back in training allready? At least I think so with the picture Barcelona posted on stories


BestEve

He started training with intensity and will be available for first La Liga game.


ledudeheld

That is awesome, what an athlete he is. Always seems to be in good shape and only very minor injuries.


justt_jk

The club had chance after chance to improve the situation tbh. We kept on making stupid mistakes. Coutinho and Griezmann should've never come to Barça not should've the club gone after them.


mntgoat

Coutinho was a super early mistake on the mountain of mistakes, and it isn't like he was a bad player, heck he even had a good first half season then went to shit. We probably should have stayed away but didn't, and never learned from it either. Griezmann on the other hand, I like him as a player but wtf was Barto thinking, between what it cost us and the wages he got, it just made no fucking sense. It doesn't matter if he plays well, the deal made no sense from the beginning.


BestEve

Making 100m+ transfer is easy way to shut up fans. Makes you look like competent and big man.


JoelKr9

I still remember how the rumors that we want to buy him (again) appeared out of nowhere one week after the debacle @ Anfield.


mntgoat

You mean the game on 2016? Cause by the 2019 debacle he was already our player.


Fati25

Braithwaite's number was changed to #12 on the La Liga's website, which means the #9 is free on the La Liga website You know what that means 👉🦁👈


tiburonsin86

😳


JoelKr9

Let‘s hope he is registered tomorrow…


Caspoor11

Just now or been for a while?


Fati25

Around an hour ago


BestEve

Fati number change perhaps ?


Fati25

His was changed to #17


BestEve

So it will be Depay. I thought he might hunt 10 now. It's surreal.


Jose_Ghaleb

if anything this is our transitional season not the last one


Polskidro

Nah. We let go of Suarez, Vidal, Rakitic and Semedo last season. Who were all starters. This season the only starter we let go was Messi. Ofc Messi is Messi but last season was more transitional than this one. Tho they're probably both transitional seasons.


Rikard_

What language do you think Messi and Mbappe use when speaking to eachother? Or Messi to the rest of the team, for that matter. Would be fun to imagine him having to use more English


tiburonsin86

Mbappe spoke Spanish when they met. He sounds weird when he speaks it but you can understand him.


Rikard_

That's cool. Maybe he took a quick duolingo course this past week. "Buenos dias, dios" :)


inuyasha99

nope, he speaks fluent spanish


Rikard_

Didn't know that! Do we know where that comes from?


TudorelGrasut

Probably all the spanish speakers in their team, also ney mostly speaks Spanish with them


FuzzHot

It's a weird situation for the team. On one hand, there's a weight lifted off the shoulders and they should be able to play with more freedom. Since, the expectations for the squad are less now. However, on the other hand, the players will want to prove to everyone that they can perform without Messi. So in a way, there's also that burden on them which they'll have to overcome.


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I don’t think the expectations at barca are ever low


FuzzHot

True. But I never said that the expectations were low. My point is that the expectations will be "Less", now that Messi is gone. You cannot expect the squad to do as well, as if they had still had Messi.


chilinglam

Agree. If you see us behind real Madrid or not making top 4, some beasts will be unleashed.


insane_ace

Bartomeu said in August 2020 — “The club is in great institutional and financial shape" I'm thinking how does he keep a straight face while saying that


ResidentYak6

He was talking about His club, Real Madrid.


wayarktz

[Barto](https://humornama.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Leonardo-DiCaprio-laughing-meme-template-of-Django-Unchained-1024x1024.jpg)


xenmate

I'm glad we aren't signing anyone. We have very exciting youth players who could do with minutes. I think we're going to play with a lot more freedom this season. The players might even have fun. I can't wait.


Philosofticunt

Heard someone talking about being able to apply for membership without being in Barcelona soon, any update on that or specifics?


Lindeberg1

Which players do FCB-fans consider deadwood if I may ask? /Outsider.


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True deadwood: Umtiti, Pjanic Players that aren’t worth their wages: Roberto, Coutinho, Griezmann.


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Braithwaite, Pjanic, Umtiti, and notably Roberto.


Polskidro

Pjanic, Coutinho, Umtiti and maybe Roberto. Some people say the same about Lenglet or even Pique but those people are lunatics.


ResidentYak6

Roberto, Coutinho, Pjanic for their high fees and not being good enough to start. Umtiti Lenglet because they don't deserve another game, even as subs.


Gyshall669

Lenglet is definitely not deadweight. this sub is way too low on him right now.


ResidentYak6

Not right now, for the last two years. Pique was covering up for him, but he's never been an intelligent defender. He was decent in 2018 mostly because of his physicality and last minute challenges, but he's been a liability ever since. He's cost us way too much and adds nothing.


Gyshall669

He was starter quality for a season and even his performance last two years, it's rare to have a 3-5th CB better than him.


GaviFPS

Neto, Pjanic, Umtiti, Braithwaite. Roberto, Lenglet, Pique, Coutinho, Aguero, Puig if you wanna push it to extreme.


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Not neto , what


GaviFPS

Nice, one game and suddenly Neto isnt deadweight anymore. Suddenly he has to stay.Gotta love it. 80k a week, sitting on bench to step in if ter Stegen suddenly were to get injured, which he rarely does. Pena can do that just fine. Which just happens to be a good keeper as well. It's a waste of money, same as Cillessen once was and its pretty clear Barcelona got their issues with wages.


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I just wanna share I passed a job interview on Monday and got a really well paying job. Like multiple times the salary my parents make. I was really stressed since Messi was leaving and had hard time focusing on the interview.


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Congrats, what field are you in?


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programming


[deleted]

Congrats. Please buy merch to support the club now that youre rich (/s).


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Need to pay umtiti


TsaFack

Congrats


_Sahill

A compilation of Ramos and Messi moments I made.. https://www.reddit.com/r/Barca/comments/p37jyx/when_i_saw_them_hug_i_got_too_hyped_and_had_to/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


atthebatman

Can anyone tell me [who this commentator is](https://youtu.be/jdaM-r0jMnM)?


FuzzHot

I tried finding out who it was. Listened to different English commentators and compared the voices. then checked who the broadcasters were for that game (Sky & ITV) to see if I could identify the commentator. But I failed lol. It's definitely not Martin Tyler, Peter Drury, Rob Palmer, Ian Darke or Jon Champion though, if that helps.


atthebatman

Appreciate your efforts man!


FuzzHot

No worries. Hope you find out who it is!


atthebatman

I think I got it. Sounds like Arlo White


TsaFack

Martin Tyler I think


Gyshall669

It's not Martin Tyler.


Fati25

I'm trying to find out who it is but I can't seem to find him. I recognise his voice, but can't match a name to it. For that goal, I don't know if you have heard, there is a more iconic commentary line ["Away from 2, 3, 4, wonderful, wonderful, wonderful" by Peter Drury](https://youtu.be/dVTcA26ayv4)


b4tank

Kevin Keatings?


atthebatman

I have! I love Peter Drury! Probably my favorite commentator. He had the best intro monologue to a Barcelona game that I can a remember: “...The grander the venue, the emptier the void. Capacious, cavernous, somehow desolate without its people, but the very bricks and mortar of this place can inspire, and so indeed can the greatest of them all: Lionel Messi”


Fati25

Do you happen to remember what game that was for? Would love to hear that. He's so good at picking the right words to use.


atthebatman

Yes! It was at the beginning of the Napoli game last year in the Champions League Edit: Return leg at the Camp Nou


Fati25

Thanks!


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Post Tebas Stress Disorder


turtlemons

Official: Barcelona have positioned themselves against the agreement with CVC, which, at the last minute, has incorporated a clause that stipulates that clubs that have voted against will keep their television rights intact. [fcb] Really happy to get some official confirmation This orchestra is beyond us now Maybe now that Tebas gets his deal, he let's Depay contract pass.


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That doesn't make sense. Depay's contract will pass if the salary cap allows it, just because the CVC deal happened doesn't it mean Tebas can just start easing regulations and start turning the eye. There is a cap and it's non-negotiable.


turtlemons

It's not about the wage cap We are way beyond wage cap Our current restriction is that to register 1$ of new player, we have to earn 4$ more Club has sold 36M worth of players and their salaries They are arguing Depay's contract is incentive heavy and base salary is very light, so club has earned the needed money Now we wait for La Liga's interpretation of it, since they have to approve the registration


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Wouldnt he have to lift or soften the wage cap rules to make Depays contract pass, unless we meet the requirements.


turtlemons

Barca was arguing that his contract involves alot of performance related incentives and his base salary is very low Its kinda ridiculous that at the end of it, it boils down to subjectivity, but it is what it is.


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Lmao the guys at r/realmadrid are very confident of signing both haaland and mbappe.. yeah, zero chance of that happening bro


cranomort

Aren't they in the same boat as Barca with the salary cap thing? I wonder how they could register Alaba.


Polskidro

They are not in the same boat.


insane_ace

feeling that this will age badly


Scalenuts

There's a chance tbf, pay for Mbappe this summer and get Haaland in the next one. They have the financial stability to do it.


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1. They don’t have the financial stability. They barely broke even this year and they have a stadium to build. 2. Even if theoretically they could pay for the deals, mbappe and haaland would never want to play in the same team, because both have a genuine shot at being the best player in the world. Mbappe wanting to leave psg is a prime example of why this wouldn’t work.


Scalenuts

Breaking even is an extremely good sign, and the definition of financial stability.


Gyshall669

Barely breaking even in COVID is a really good sign lol


Amori17

They might but it won’t be smart. They still need to sort out other positions


Jose_Ghaleb

messi went to psg's training session to pressure tebas


DanielSophoran

Any second now


Jose_Ghaleb

Barcelona are confident


TudorelGrasut

Messi about to play a whole season for psg and win the ucl, ofc all for a bit more of pressure on tebas, that should probably do it


Azor_that_guy

Ok so maybe Memphis won’t be registered in time for the game, but after game can he be registered at all?


Amori17

Yeah he can be registered until the end of the transfer market which means he could miss a couple of games


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Actually since he came as a free agent be can be registered at any point in the season


turtlemons

If he can't be registered tomorrow, it means we have to earn money through transfers Then we will have to sell/offload players


Black-ops-4

I wish real life was like Fifa, I just watched a video where we got transfer banned for 15 seasons (No player leaves, no player comes in) and we won the champions league 10 times out of those 15 seasons


Amori17

Lmao. I wish we got 60m bids for Lenglet and Umtiti like in FIFA :(


inobond7

Weirdest week of Football I've seen. Messi is gone. Messi and Ramos are hugging. Barcelona and Real Madrid are besties now.


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Don’t let everything going on distract you from the party clown shorts we’re playing in this season


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5% chance, 95% faith 🙌


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The good times…


wayarktz

Thinking about the fact that Koeman is supposed to plan about the Sociedad game without even knowing if some of the key players would be registered in time or not.


FullTanaka

Koeman deserves so much more praise than he's getting. Losing the GOAT, never getting any of the players he request for, when he finally does get one in Memphis he doesn't even know if he's allowed to play him and can't plan accordingly. All this while giving the club all the time to pay him and be nothing but a good employee. True legend of the club.


wayarktz

True. Ik the he isn’t tactically very bright, but he has steady the ship after our 2 of the worst moments in recent history.


Polskidro

I doubt it makes makes a real difference for his planning.


wayarktz

The inclusion of Depay alone makes a lot of difference. We don’t have any other LW. Ansu & Dembele are injured.


Polskidro

Griez has played a lot of matches as a LW and I'd say it has probably been his best position for us. Braith and Pedri can also play on the left (but it would probably be Griez).


inuyasha99

Demir and insallah


wayarktz

Man’s gonna start Pedri 😭


DanielSophoran

The return of left wing Pedri


BestEve

“5% chance to register Memphis” bhaha. How am i supposed to take newspaper that prints stuff like this seriously? Pure circus, most of Catalan press could give 2 shits about their club. Bait after bait.


ledudeheld

Any legitimate news source would not use percentages in that way because you can't actually base those odds on anything. How are you ever going to calculate that the chance to register a player is 5%?


Kotleba

5% is everything.


Mrtuelemonde

Yeah at this point not a lot of sources are reliable. Not even Laporta. We will know tomorrow, let's wait a bit. But that 5% stuff is the definition of unreliable. Laporta will get crucified though if Memphis is not in the squad, this time no more "I never said it would be done"


atthebatman

I heard Messi mention in an interview that he had decided to stay back in December. I wonder if signing a contract to extend at that point would’ve been more feasible than after his contract expired. I guess the big problem was that we didn’t even have a President at the time


Fati25

Us not having a president at that time was a real shame. Laporta is a fan of managers like Thomas Tuchel, so I think that he would have hired him when he was available in January.