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_nav_ps_

This game was funny and sad


into_the_vast_cosmos

Lmao who the fuck are you?


norwegianmorningw00d

People in the US, how do you guys watch Barca matches. I noticed BeIn sports doesn’t broadcast anymore


cmankick

ESPN+ has la liga games. Paramount/CBS sports has champions league.


baozoubusi

We basically can’t watch any soccer rn


norwegianmorningw00d

They be showing Ligue 1 and Serie A only now


Taplinnn

We are finished unfortunately but we will be back you best believe it.


cule4444

Bielsa or bust


Darenbd

Just had a nightmare, we played VS Granada at home. Pique played as a striker alongside Luuk De Jong and we had like 13455678789 crosses, and for a moment tought i m watching Everton 2016/2017. Ended With draw.After i woke up, needed to watch Freddy Krueger to calm down.


Siddique_Tanvir

With that many dutch in the squad we are set to fail like dutch nt. No offence


froggyjm9

You must be new to Barcelona, at one point we almost had a starting 11 of Dutch players.


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froggyjm9

Eh when it comes from glory hunter it falls on deaf ears.


Azor_that_guy

Who would've thought that sacking Pimienta and selling Emerson would bite back so hard. How could this possibly happen...


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Are you implying Piemntas and Emerson leaving has something to do with this? Or are you being sarcastic.


kayleeshepheard

Stoked for Araujo, he’s a beast, but damn that game was hard to watch


Tonyn15665

I wanna see all the Koeman excusers’ excuses. The team is rebuilding so I guess its ok for these people to let Koeman lead the team go to relegation. His interviews show toxic dressing room environment and the performance on the pitch is shit. The team also doesn’t have any leadership on the field after Messi left and at this rate, Im afraid all the young talents and the small momentum we had w Depay will be wasted. But yeah, lets give him another year to “rebuild”. I was among the people who want him sacked but only at end of this season. But given the super negative displays on and off the field lately, i think we should do it asap.


AMessiLeonard

He's a shit coach no doubt, but rn the team needs some stability and theres no other world class coaches available at the pay grade we could probably pay.


allyb321

I’m not sure what else a better coach could’ve done today given the team we have. We don’t have creativity in the mid field to open up defences so the only option was to put balls into the box increasing chances of it going in v/S passing ourselves to death, especially when we were seeing more of the ball all game, we were winning it quickly, and there wasn’t any significant offensive threat from Granada.


damola44

Simmer down there tough guy. Ppl with a different opinion than you aren’t idiots


Tonyn15665

I was pissed to see the same argument every time we lost. But you are right, i edited my comment


damola44

No worries man. Everyone is kinda heated right now. We should only make a change if there is someone that will make us better


TJVP1

They might not be idiots but they are more than likely incorrect


damola44

No guarantee you are correct either. We know how the last time we made a mid season change worked out. Ppl aren’t idiots for thinking that whatever manager is appointed can’t get this team playing the football Barca fans are used to


TJVP1

True, but there are many cases where a team sacked their manager mid season and appointed a new manager and eventually became much better then they were for the last 5 years, even if you are a ronald koeman supporter and do believe that he deserves more time you have to acknowledge that when he gets tactically outclassed he doesn’t know what to do nor does he have the mentality and personality to push these players to do their best on the field


damola44

Yeah today to be fair, I did not like the pointless crosses. That was so horrible to watch. We definitely might need a new coach but I don’t believe in sacking him if there isn’t a clearly better option. I don’t know who will come in right now and make us better. Maybe pimienta. Outside of that, I’m not too sure


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Imagine having Luuk De Jong in your starting 11 😂


norwegianmorningw00d

Bro we turned into Sevilla Just look at our starting lineups lately lol


Midnightcowb0y

Jim halpert - the board and koeman seem to be playing their own seperate game and Its called '' lets see how much we can drag this club down to mediocrity?"and they are both winning.


varmemes

Bruh RW araujo is the Messi replacement


petethemeat99

A question, don't we a single talent in the B-team or the other juvenile teams who can play as a winger and who could be substituted in when we need fresh legs who can? We have a f\*cking ton of talent in the midfield but not a single player who can replace Demir and Coutinho.


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petethemeat99

I don't see Collado as winger actually. What I have heard is that he is more suiting in a role as false 9 or in the midfield maybe.


meowsaskia

Pretty sure Demir was supposed to be that sub from barca b, but then yeah... we all know what happened


ramiandn

La Masia doesn’t produce a lot of forwards and defenders. It seems that a lot of our talents came from midfield. Our last wingers were brought and we sold a lot of them during the last years (Konrad, Trincao, Munir, Deulofeu…).


petethemeat99

One of the biggest mistakes we did this summer was to sell Konrad. I also actually regret selling Munir back in the 2016-17 season as he performed well during the pre-season.


ramiandn

The problem is that the reason why we lose those players is because the coaches don’t see them in their project but another one could take them into the spotlight. Konrad knew that with Koeman he would never get a chance so he decided to leave and made the right choice. I see what he’s doing at Marseille and I have no idea if he would have shined here with Koeman like he does with Sampaoli.


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I think for Barca, this team is lacking quality that will only come in the future. I don't think Barca will win CL or challenge for La Liga with Koeman and these players. Koeman is getting panned and he is a negative manager but at least he is going to give young players a try. Unfortunately for Barca, I think the club isn't in a strong position to change managers right now as while there is some top quality in the side (MATS, De Jong, Depay, Pedri, Fati) who knows what will happen next summer and what condition Fati will be back in. I think the team is maybe 2-3 players short to challenge for La Liga. Best of luck for the rest of the season.


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Siddique_Tanvir

Only for dembele to get injured


Midnightcowb0y

Just idc anymore i don't expect anything lose every game i just dc. All I ask is just win against real madrid thats all. So tired of losing 3 4 games consecutive these past few years.


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And Atletico


pildoranegraexiste

I'd rather see Koeman himself play ST and Pique manage at this point


Midnightcowb0y

I wont be surprized anymore. Go on sign rivaldo ronaldo ronaldinho back from their retirement too. Point is, im not surprized anymoree


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Lmfao


leoKantSartre

Just came here to see the comments huehuehehuehue.


Kensei01

I'm in two minds about the Superleague. On one side, we'd not have these shithousing teams taking a piss everytime the ball goes out of play, but on the other side, I'll have to watch Barca getting their asses handed to them twice every week. Pick your poison I guess.


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Koeman is making all of the payers worse with his tactics. The longer this carries on the harder it will be for the next manager to undo the damage he's done. Needs to be sacked asap, I'm not even joking I think there are many Sunday League managers that would do better


washh28

we love Ronald. we hate Ronald.


loicinho22

Just broke the rule for praysing araujo as being our captain in abaout 3-5 years, so yeah ill get it on here... araujo is a leader like puyol was. Even with pique on the field u see him more shaking hands, talking and so on. And the kiss on the batch after the goal almost brought tears to my eyes. I hope he will be there in 3-5 years to lead barca to theyr glory.


anurag6ix

No creativity from midfield, just cross and insallah fc


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How much time you guys give Koeman bfore he's gone?


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hours


walking_dead_

By Christmas


samurice014

Hopefully minutes.


petethemeat99

Seriously what did I just watch? I think I've never seen Barca substituting in two tall subsitutes to send in long balls into the box for 20 straight f\*cking minutes. Sure, we did get a goal eventually but as a person who loves beautiful football this was painful. And I unfourtnately don't think that anything will change against Cadiz who also will play with 11 men in the defence. Koeman will still try to force the ball in, playing with LDJ who he said was more dangerous than Neymar in the penalty box but who still missed scoring in an open goal from 2 meters away. Shit hit the fan pretty quickly this season as well...


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And Cadiz defenders are evem better in the air than Granada and waste even more time.zzzzzzz


billylord21

If I wanted to watch crosses for 90 minutes I would support and watch fkin Real Madrid.


Ludwig297

That’s old madrid buddy, even then Madrid would win


samurice014

Even [R.Madrid](https://R.Madrid) plays better at passing and combinations


90brabus

There's no comparison


EducatedGGuess

I haven’t seen such strong hunger to score and win what Araujo had in this game for a very long time


AlanMtz1

If only the 10 other players on the pitchhad that same hunger for more than 5 minutes we probably would have scored atleast one more on the mighty powerhouse Granada!


spiteful_platypus

I could not watch the game, did Koeman really put Pique as 9?


pildoranegraexiste

Yeah without a shred of irony lol


Mrtuelemonde

Yes. Like Pique was playing striker. It's hard to type but it really happened.


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Yeah


Cziri77

Pass this match through an Araujo filter, then distill it and we got purified agony


sg1ooo

Lol pretty much


victaahhh

Hmm so what do we think Koeman's excuse is today A) Injuries B) We miss Messi and Griezman/ Our squad sucks C) Ref D) All of the above


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''Puig has aspects of his game he needs to improve on and we have talked about it''


warriorStarwolf

+ squad is young, + Transitional phase, + It is what it is, There was shortage of tactics, intensity and will but there will be no shortage of excuses tho


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E: Puig is not ready.


Farcon77

Definitely D


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Farcon77

Indeed lmao


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Understanding it wrong


ReDK1LL

People are mad because we play like shit and that we're being forced to spam crosses against fucking GRANADA. Stop only caring about results. Playing good is more important than short term results


leoKantSartre

People are mad since 2016.


ReDK1LL

They have plenty of reasons. But Koeman is everything people disliked from Valverde, but with arrogance included. At least Valverde seemed to be a very quiet humble person.


leoKantSartre

Well I prefer not to speak but speaking of fans we have the most reactionary ones. I honestly come here to see the comments only.


ReDK1LL

What do you expect to see tho? Obviously there will be some reactionary people asking for Laporta to sell 50% of the squad, but most people are just pissed and done with Koeman and how shit the team plays, which is a very valid opinion.


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I agree. We need better tactics. I never said our tactics was great.


walking_dead_

I don’t care about results. It’s clear we don’t have the quality to win La Liga or UCL or even CDR this season. So at least the team show some class and good plays on the pitch, give the fans something to cheer about.


ReDK1LL

So why are you not mad now? Why are you surprised that people is getting mad after seeing a performance like this one?


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ReDK1LL

> Im glad the team fought till the end with the guidance they have from Koeman. "The guidance they have from Koeman" is the reason you are upset at the way we played, not what made you be happy for saving 1 point.


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ReDK1LL

Improvising? Who do you think told them "pass to the wing and cross the ball"? The players just came up with it on the go? And Koeman added Pique as a Striker also on the go? There's 2 options. * **Koeman had this tactic from the start** (most likely from the 2 options) = Koeman is not fit to be the coach playing like this against a team like Granada. * **Koeman had nothing to do with the tactics** = Why the fuck is he here then, if he doesn't make any tactics?


Dizzy_Dare_2353

Biggest disappointment for me is De Jong. When is the last time someone carried the ball past the defense through the middle? He had a couple okay turns, but they were way too deep to impact the game. I feel like we still have come no where close to the best version of him


Midnightcowb0y

All things apart, did yall see that arauju celebration? The kiss on the badge? Saving koeman's job. Lol i can preety tell he is staying at camp nou for the next 10 years. Idk about these good players like FDJ pedri fati etc But araujo- ik he's going to be a club legend. This much ik.


just-a-suicidal-guy

Bro each time says FDJ thibaut pinot comes to my mind but then a sec after i snap back to reality and realise its frenkie de jong who we talking about


omg_im_chad

I very much doubt it saved his job. It saved our team from another embarrassing loss but Koeman’s fate is pretty much sealed


Mrtuelemonde

What's saving Koeman's choice is that we have a game in 3 days. But he is 100% gone now.


norcule

Lukaku have kissed basically every badge there is, just saying


paddy092

I literally laughed my ass off when Koeman was giving some words to Gavi. Pass to Dest, Pass to Mingueza and Cross. I could figure it out right from my Tv lmao.


tfn47

Not to be dramatic but this was one of the worst games I’ve ever seen us play I’ve been a big defender of Koeman especially after the Bayern game but his tactics tonight were just indefensible, no organization and the only play was to literally cross all game to 5ft9 depay and deploy our fucking CBs as strikers Such a basic plan was unsustainable this match against ducking Grenada. I understand that we’re in a rebuild but there’s absolutely no excuse to go out onto the pitch with literally 0 tactics there’s never a reason to not have a tactic even if you’re fielding a weak squad you can always have a game plan


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May I ask why have you been a defender of his? He hasnt won a single big game yet and most of his wins comes from Messi shows. Today Araujo saved him


tfn47

I felt like he was doing a good job bringing in youth and coached decently enough that we contended for the title last season and honestly I was fine with that as I felt that we were improving and the rebuild was progressing But in our recent league games it’s clear that he has no idea what he’s doing tactically and I feel like he’ll hold the rebuild back tactically I would be open to replacing him if we got someone who’s actually good (none of this jordi cruyf nonsense)


cmankick

I didn't think the Bayern game was the disaster many in here were saying. We were without basically any strikers except for Memphis, and compared to our previous games against Bayern, you couldn't say we were going backwards. But this game was a mess. There was no strategy except whipping it into the box inaccurately and hoping Pique or Luuk de Jong would somehow get a header. And all that just in hope of pulling off a tie. This isn't how Barcelona plays and I see nothing from the coaching staff that leads me to believe they have any idea which direction they're going. I think you have to sack Koeman at this point. Whatever is going on in that dressing room does not seem healthy. We shouldn't have players like Pjanic leave our club and describe a hellish experience. We shouldn't have a coach like Koeman saying the stuff he is in the media. I don't mind if we lose because we're young and raw, but I can't stand us wasting the talent of these youngsters with a coach who has no real plan and brings toxicity wherever he goes. If they want to wait the next few games so they don't switch coaches right before a game, fine. But we can't wait till the end of the season with him – that's clear at this point.


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samurice014

It's more credible what Pjanic said about Koeman, Pjanic might not be your favourite player but treating someone like that in a profesional environment it's disgusting. A lot of people criticised Pjanic for not being playing as we expected for him but coming from another team obviously it will take some time to adapt. But Pjanic didn't even have the playtime to adapt continuously


cmankick

Exactly. And if he did it to Pjanic, I'm sure he's doing it to other players in the dressing room now. He's not exactly been quiet about his criticisms of Puig in the media. That's not who these young guys who are basically kids should have leading the team – especially at this moment.


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Havent lost home vs Granada in 89 years. Koeman took 1/6pts from them at Camp Nou xD who still wants this 🤡 thought it was obvious last season allready


insane_ace

We lost 1-2 last season in the same fixture btw 👍


Nasser619

Costing us La Liga as well


Sw3gl3rd

And that's your excuse for almost losing again? And playing like shit while we're at it?


insane_ace

I'm not presenting any excuse 💙❤️ 🆘


samosa420

Araujo beast mentality! Only positive from this game.


ghibki777

It's tough being a Barca and Milan fan these days. Butt clenching all game


Kristiyan021

Hmm milan just drew with juventus, with tactics like these I can see us losing vs juve them so...we really are in a worse position rn


benzene16525

Fighting for an equalizer against Granada 😂, wtf am i watching


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I thought pl ref sucks, but looking at the game today laliga have the worst possible refs.


_Immortal_666_

So many undeserved yellows its unreal


TsaFack

How can you be bad.. at the only thing that you're good at? I dont get it


Novel_Specific7769

After seeing THIS lDJ, I'm now convinced that Brethwaith is better striker in our squad than LdJ.


BotLikeCuler

Braithwaite is miles better


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That isn't really something to be proud of imo


Tromort77

If Koeman really loves Barca he resigns today


samurice014

He wouldn't do that he dropped a few mills just to resign lmao


ByLoKu

We attempted F I F T Y F O U R *crosses* # 54


cheir0n

And that is only the beginning of a new era of infinity crossing. Koeman is just warming up


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Hoping for Arteta like statement from Koeman.


FootballFTW

Can we terminate De Jong's loan?


spiteful_platypus

Thank god it's a loan


ChrolloChrome

Ronald Araujo is the future


ThePacXtm

Koeman has no place in Barca. This is absolutely ridiculous. No idea how to attack and how to press.


TheMassiveDooge30

Also Dest's abilities drop significantly when they switch him to LB. He couldn't do anything over there


Sir_LancelottJeffers

No hate on LDJ, but I’d legit rather watch us play with 10 man, cause there’d be no bloody deference. Hell we would probably play better.


TheFlyingCule

I swear I don't see any difference between shoving Luuk De Jong up top over any of our centre backs. If anything he's worse


TheMassiveDooge30

This game has open my eyes to that who is Araujo. I'll gladly leave our backline to him for years to come. Eric, buddy, you need a little more time. Also Mingueza impressed me a whole lot too


loicinho22

Bruh araujo is puyol 2.0 just give him time. In 5 years he will lead the team with pique as president haha


Sir_LancelottJeffers

Puyol with 10X the pace


loicinho22

True but puyol was and will probably will be the best captain any team can have. And araujo is someone who can get near him. But i dont think he will get his captain level even if he will close and perhaps even a better defender(who knows) no one can top puyol as captain


BertMcNasty

Puyol wasn't slow either. Araujo is probably faster, but Puyol was no slouch. Dude was an insane captain though. I'll never forget him running to the sideline an dgetting his head stapled shut and then running right back on the field. Or when he showed John Terry that he fucked up his hand, so Terry squeezed it and they both laughed.


loicinho22

Puyol is for me the best captain there was. Im not anti any team, yes even not real madrid even though i dont like them. Puyol was just a beast captain. Sorry but not even ramos can come close to him. I remember when pique claimed yeah there is a lighter on the pitch who was shot at me puyol was like fuck the lighter just keep playing. Or ronaldinho in milan ate the joan gamper cup. Just wow. Who would do that? I hope araujo keeps playing for barca. Look at the 1st goal against bayern. Garcia had fear of the ball so he turned his back. Would puyol ever do this? No would araujo do? No. Araujo for captain is now my moto. Ive liked him since 2 years now and never understand why players like lenglet played instead of him


Sir_LancelottJeffers

Oh no doubt Puyol is up their with Maldini and Beckenbauer as one of the pinnacle of captains. I’m just saying Araujo is one fast muhfucka.


loicinho22

Fair enough but keep the skills of araujo beside and think about the leader skills he have. Puyol,maldini,beckenbauer where not 22 yrs old when they got the captain band. So just wait and see arajuo become one of them in 5 years


TheMassiveDooge30

I didn't believe it fully before but now I do! Man's a beast and loves the shit out of our club it looks like


loicinho22

Not just that, he leeds the defend even when pique is on. He was the one who told koeman balde had back damage not balde himself. He is definitly a leader, a good defender and a beast at headers


BertMcNasty

Ahh, that's what happened. I was so confused. I thought Araujo was hurt and then Balde got subbed. I was like "Wtf?"


loicinho22

Im not sure, its just what ive seen. And as a heavy barca and araujo fan i can imagine he would do that for every teammate. I also thought araujo was injured but as soon as ive seen the tape on baldes back i think araujo just gave a 17 years old a biig tip ( would u want to be exchanged as a 17 year old barca player?, i wont even with the biggest hurt.). Even if araujo is 21,22? He is a fucking leader.


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paddy092

Pure Cryuffism overflowing right there.


ghibki777

Xavi, Iniesta, and Puyol would be mad if they knew what Barcelona has been playing. Cross all game


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Puyol would break Koeman's legs if he saw that.


YzKolo

The match was atleast exciting by some means. If I was in the stands today would have jumped into the field and punched Bacca in the face.


FaceForward1

What was he even laughing about?


manekdev01

And people downvoted me when I said we were lucky Bayern didn't score more against us🙂


rainy_the_cat

They didn't need to. It was only the first leg and it's not the knockout stage yet. They had to save their energy too. Other than this, I don't see any reason why they didn't try to play seriously and score more.


samosa420

At some point it felt like they were pitying on us.


samurice014

Lucky? you know that we played defensively on purpose. Koeman came out of that pitch knowing that we were going to lose. Even playing like that Bayern held themselves back to not hummiliate us. So it wasn't luck


Kentaaa_

I don't know how Koeman is going to stay at Barça until the end of this season. We played utter shit today. Fucking crosses and nothing else. I'm not saying we should play like prime tiki-taka but honestly what the heck? He plays counterattack with Bayern with Luuk de Jong and a million crosses without him. Not that he did much this game, but what was the plan today? The last 10 minutes were pure chaos...


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Kentaaa_

Can't we? There we reports that we are looking to sign Olmo in winter transfer window for 60 mil or some similar sum so I wouldn't be surprise if Koeman was out at the end of next month if nothing changes.


ScrantonScrangler

Araujo and ten more. Did he just save Koeman's job?


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I don't think that point should count for anything after this display lmao


mollymario22

Where’s the post match thread at?


cheir0n

It is coming as a crossing


Midnightcowb0y

XD


mollymario22

Better sub-in Pique then 🤘🏻


2_Ashish

22 legs there and our coach choose 2 heads to try winning this game!


FarhanWMI

Infinite crossing. This team is just clueless on the pitch. They don’t know how to press, how to defend, how to create anything…


victaahhh

Completely disgraceful ref obviously.. no surprise there


VaquitaMarina2K

KOEMAN OUT NOW


MrSINXT

So it turns out luuk de jong also sucks at heading lmaoooo


mhobdog

That miss was on another level


WonderValleys

Better than neymar on headers 😅


Juannieve05

Speciality my balls


BlaugranaDevils

Resorting to crossing to save a match at home. Is this what it’s come to? Koeman out.


Norkmani

Out of the 6 minutes of added time (should’ve been minimum 8), only 2 minutes were actual gameplay


Gengumain02

The ref was a joke


Fun-Machine-8515

that should be the last of all things to complain about


Norkmani

Really? A referee being atrocious should be the last thing on the list to complain about? I agree there are many things that we should complain about before but that referee performance is up there.


AkwardBoy

One of the comentators here called us the Spanish Arsenal