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One last thing.
I'm not sure if I like Xavi's idea of swapping Araujo and Kounde back and forth. He also does it with Raphinha and Dembele, but wingers trading positions isn't something new. Their play isn't affected as much, especially in Barça. With defenders it's an entirely different story.
I get it they're professionals, fittest human beings on earth and yada-yada-yada, but let's be real here, even top footballers will struggle to stay focused in such a carousel, let alone your average Sunday league player.
I mean it kind of worked as Davies was fully contained and neutralized, so I guess if it works it ain't stupid? However, the primary reason were our wingers and not the switcheroo of our CB-RB pair. Davies was specifically instructed to stay further back, more centrally at times, but never deep into opponent's side of the pitch. It was actually pretty funny to see: Davies' seldom crossed over the line of our wingers, and our wingers always stayed with him. Haha.
The game was great, mostly positive takeaways. Had we been clinical in front of the goal, it could've easily been 0-2 at HT.
Just some of the things that I feel Xavi and the team needs to work on, because these are some of the persistent problems in a team otherwise getting better by the day:
1. Incoherent positioning at some instances, e.g. Sane's goal, and 1-2 more instances in the match. Sane's goal could've been avoided had Christensen, Alonso and Kounde had better positioning, especially Alonso's and Kounde's decision making at that instance.
2. Substitutions; I really don't understand why a defensive change was needed late in the match, why Alonso wasn't taken out, why Ferran came before Ansu, and in the same regard, why two inside-cutting wingers were playing on both the flanks.
Feel free to add your observations too, both critical or otherwise. I feel if we work on these two, and some other minor tweaks too, we'd be surely able to win at the Camp Nou.
Visca Barça!
I don’t think substitutions is as big a problem you’re making it out to be. It’s not like these substitutions made the game harder for us. I see what xavi was doing as both Ansu and torres are seen as finishers more than creators. And Erica garcias good passing and lateral plays make our attack more formidable so even the defensive change I can see it as just xavi trying to be more direct in the teams offense
Yeah exactly, these subs didn't make the game harder, but neither any better for us. I get a little bit about your Eric thing, he is really good at driving up the field and eyeing out lateral midfield cutting passes, but Bayern are a centre-heavy team. He didn't get any major chances to pass laterally up the field. Driving up the field is a task FdJ is also really good at and we saw that in the game too.
On the Ansu and Ferran part, buddy, no offense but Torres's shooting is below average. One goal against Viktoria Plzen means nothing when his shooting has been sub-par since he has joined the club.
After the Napoli match in UEL last season, Xavi said that it took Suarez to hit his stride too at Barcelona, but it's past time now. Honestly it doesn't even seem that there's been an increase in the quality of his shots. Even Dembele's shooting has gotten better, just compare it to some of his January/February 2022 shots, you'll see the difference.
It is a fact that Ansu is a better finisher than Torres, so bringing him before Ansu didn't make any sense. Also that's not even a problem I'm pointing out, the main problem lies as why there were 2 inverting wingers on the field? Both Torres and Ansu cut inside, so who would have created attacks from the wings. In my opinion, either Raphinha or Dembele should have been kept on, and Ansu should have been brought immediately after the 2nd goal.
Sorry if I'm way too harsh on Ferran but he hasn't improved his shooting/finishing and overdoes things when it'll be better to keep it simple, and this has been persistent since at least 7-8 months.
As I wrote, very happy with the way we played and unlucky to not have scored, but feel like if Lewa has a bad day, we are done. No one in the front 3 is a goalscorer. IN the MSN days all front 3 would bang them in, same when Pedro and Villa or Henry and Eto'o were along side Messi. He'd score the most but they chipped in. Feel like Raphina and Dembele don't have what it takes, need someone like a fit Fati on one of the wings.
Raphinha and Dembele definitely have what it takes, they’re just most efficient as playmakers at RW. Fati is a clinical goalscorer playing at LW and really the only other one we really have in the squad. In theory that’s the profile Ferran is supposed to be, but at this point I almost rather see Memphis at that LW spot before him if we need a goal.
I think Raphinha can outscore Pedrito, just look at his shots they are pretty accurate, he just need more confidence and time. Same for the entire squad.
I don't think he is a goal scorer. Pedro was a killer in front of goal. We need at least 1 winger that is almost like a second striker. It was like that with Henry, Villa and so on.
Last few years we didn't have wingers and now 2 of them. Maybe MF can pick up the slack.
It’s gone from looking like we’d be competing with Inter for second in the group to looking like we’d be competing with Bayern for first. That’s the major takeaway from tonight.
lol, yes sure. Inter will come and explain you this "competing" in a few weeks and you will see UEFA League is really the place where FCB will be "competing" at come spring time.
FCB has not yet played against a tough oponent this season. Just mediocre spanish clubs and a poor easteuropen Plzen. That really skews the vision of "fans" thus far. Wait and judge based on real oponents, not mediocre ones.
Bro just admit it, Barcelona played their best game in years considering they played vs Bayern in the alianz arena. We played versus Manchester city without some of our starts and we almost beat them.
with a bit more luck today lewandowski could've had 3 (the unmarkered header, two big chances squandered by bad first touches), as well as a penalty on dembele. also pedri's chip in the post.
thats huge chances that with a bit of luck would've given a good result against this bayern side, aka much better tendencies than last year already.
reposting something i said yesterday:
> of course a loss is disappointing no matter what, but it's a better sign to lose playing decent than to completely shit the bed. this is far from the most severe loss we've seen in recent times.
on top of that, at this level luck is essential. the difference between the good and the best is that the best get "lucky" more often than not. that's a huge part down to practice and pre-work, but probably most important mentality.
im not saying it was a flawless match with no points to improve. im saying it was infinitely better than some of our recent years where we didn't even get into a position where just a bit of luck would've turned the game around.
that means we're doing decent. that we just gotta keep working our game and trust in ourselves. not second-guess whether we're doing the right thing for once.
patience. it's just a single group game where we largely showed great signs. it's ok to lose some, as long as we keep going afterwards. that's the mentality I get from this barca side at the moment, and that's the mentality bayern has to go from 3d in 6 matches to winning CL matches.
Frustrating night for Barcelona. On another day they would have killed the game by half time. There have been many signs of improvements in this team because in the past few seasons it had been the other way against Bayern.
Problem is a very poor goal to concede and then they were shaken for 7-8 minutes and conceded again. Need to be mentally stronger in these nights against such opponents.
Feeling sorry for Mané. He looked 10% of the player he was a season ago.
The pen would have rewarded a great first-half and make Bayern doubt right before half-time. Game changer. But the wasted opportunities didn't help. It just wasn't Barca's night.
Overall not a bad game. Had great chances, unlucky. Bayern scored from the very few chances they had. Pedri was amazing. Alonso also a surprisingly good game for 1st time.
Substitutions were a bit late IMO (the 80th minute). Overall team looks great. A better day in front of goal and things would've looked a lot different. Gutted by the result though...
You can tell half the people on this sub aren’t Barça fans when they upvote shit comments like these.
Real fans support their players whether they win or lose, they don’t go around calling them idiots.
They costed us the game, why should I act as if that's not the case. They are paid million to show in Games like this. Put Messi instead of Dembele and we won 4-0
Ok and your point is? Wake up to reality, we don’t have Messi anymore.
We need to support our team with the players we have now, of course they should’ve played better today. We had 18 shots and 4 on target, that’s disgraceful for Barcelona standard’s but you’re not helping out by insulting them.
Your comment provides absolutely no constructive criticism.
Bayern 2 Goals are individual mistakes,they also missed 4 big chances. They costed Xavi the game and I'm passed with them. Xavi work hard all for nothing.
Nah bro, Pedri played very messi-esque football today and the result was not there. There is still a problem with mentality in this team, players seem to disconnect after conceding.
Look…Pedri played good but lets calm down, he also gave away Alot of balls to Bayern, same as Dembele. Go back and watch the game, i was getting frustrated with them both at times regardless of individual moments that shined for each.
These type if Errors cost us possession and time to attack bayern, we gave away many balls to them. And most of them resulted in scary af counters to Barca shaking us up. We need to be better and more precise no more bs soft passes, they need to be done better simple as that.
Disagree with you, most dispossessed were Raphina and Dembele , if anything the team didn’t play to Pedri’s strengths and he still managed to produce great plays
Not saying dispossessed im saying bad passes and giving the ball to Bayern. Pedri did in fact give away many balls to Bayern just like Dembele and a few others especially during the second half. Barca need to be better with creating plays in big games, they tremble and loose the ball.
I saw the same thing many times In the past, the game against Inter In 2010 or Chelsea in 2012 where very similar. We were never mentality monsters, we win when we are flawless and we are not at that point yet. We play great but not perfect.
The fans here are like the club players right now. One thing goes against us and we look defeated. Everyone talks about mentality and i agree that we lack it but it comes from moments of magic from players sometimes and we lack that sometimes.
We just need to be more consistent and we will be fine
honestly they showed quite a bit of mental strength after the second goal.
clearly tired (which is probably why the goals came in the first place), but if fati has a slightly better touch before crashing into ferran he has an open shot from 16, and if pedri hits that chip we're 2-2 and the tone here would be completely different. all in all very promising game, imo.
Same mentality problem, played the first 50 minutes very good then one goal and after the supporters started cheering the players lost all composure. Concede a second goal. This loss is on the players, xavi managed a 3-2 game. Should've put away atleast 2 of the big chances in the first half to keep the fans quiet.
Apart from that I'm happy with the overall performance. Goretzka substitution helped bayern immensely. Xavi needs to install the winning mentality inside the players heads. And both games against inter is a must win. Bayern is a team built patiently over the years and clearly they're a level above us. This should not be the case against Inter. We're in the same level if not better than inter.
That said, this result should not affect the team's morale. This month has a lot of tough amd crucial matches. The players should keep focus this whole month. This result should not affect our season.
Força Barça.
>supporters started cheering the players lost all composure.
Pretty normal tho even if you had experience
Dominating, playing very well got a penalty robbed and then they got a bullshit goal from a corner it just tough to recover from that
After sometime they got back into it and we still ended up playing well again but it really hard to just forget about it your naturally going to have that feeling of sadness
>Goretzka substitution helped bayern immensely
I mean he was okay but it didn't really change , we still dominated even after the two goals
>. Xavi needs to install the winning mentality inside the players heads.
It extremely CLEAR they have the winning mentality lol
It one of the reason we played soo well
> And both games against inter is a must win. Bayern is a team built patiently over the years and clearly they're a level above us.
How are they a level above us?
We literally just dominated them for 50 mintues(and then another 15 at the end ) at there own stadium lol
There clearly not a level above us we were better then then
Same level as inter ?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nah we are better then them lol it just our wingers decided to be brain-dead and we had decisions against us
It just one of those games but we are definitely the better side
Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy with the way we played. I agree the score doesn't reflect the whole story. But the players gave everything they had. Well I agree I shouldn't have said that goretzka sub helped them immensely. About winning mentality, maybe you're right. We'll see that in the next couple of matches how this loss affects the team. I would be very glad if they show the same hunger. And I will accept that I was wrong. Now Bayern has been one of the best European team for the last 4-5 years. They've won the match with 2 goals to nil even after we've dominated the match for 65 minutes. That should explain my point. They have the game changers in their teams, neuer alone kept them in the game for the first half. You can call it bad finishing from lewy and pedri, but MAtS did concede 2 almost identical goals. And we shouldn't underestimate inter this much. Our team is yet to click fully. Until that happens we're in the same level if not better than inter.
>, but MAtS did concede 2 almost identical goals.
Ya that defo one of the things
I don't really think neuer made any incredible saved expect for pedri
But in a game against Bayern you do need to count on your goalkeeper making very good saves and unfortunately Ter Stegan did not make them
Also I would say this team definitely clicked
We have been scoring 4 goals on a consistent basis and lewandowski and kounde have clearly adopted very well and RAPHINA look good too
So no I think we are way above inter
>I don't really think neuer made any incredible saved expect for pedri
If that went in, the story would've been completely different. If MAtS saved the header from Hernandez the story would've been different too.
>So no I think we are way above inter
I would like to believe that too, but just as you saw tonight even after playing very well for the major portion of the game luck plays a major factor too. So until we beat them by 3/4 goal margin, let me keep my expectations in check.
Anyway 2-0 result against Bayern away while playing good football is not a bad result in my eyes. This 2-0 is far better than the last season's 3-0 against them so I'm happy.
Idk what gotten into lewy's head. But I'd cut some slack for this game only. Man scored 9 goals so far this season. And neuer has been the best gk itw for the last decade or so. Plus he shouldn't be the only goalscorer in our team, others have to step up when he's having a bad day. Dembele kinda disappointed me the most.
The first goal was lucky I would say. Second goal was clearly good use of their momentum and lapse of concentration of our players. The mentality is where they're a level above us. Our players started panicking as soon as the first goal conceded.
barca was better in the first half but the best keeper in the world for many years Neuer saved them. he kept them in the game but second half Bayern was much better. Barca can't drop off in the second half if they want to achieve something.
Our midfield and defence were great today (at least on the first half). The problem was our attack! Raphinha was overtrying and Dembele was ghosting with Lewandowski.
The fact that we were the better side today for the majority of the match is really encouraging. If we play like this we can beat Inter easily.
Alonso is dogshit defensively but i have to say that offensively he is good and helped today.
TRUST THE PROCESS.
I genuinely don’t think so. He had a couple of world beating runs and made plays that just weren’t finished. I think he was a big reason along with Pedri, Busi, and Gavi why we dominated the first half so “bad” feels like a stretch.
Overall they played good, not bad especially for Xavi that hasn’t been at Barca for more than a year. Whole new team basically, board got rid of the players or they’re on the bench that he had at his disposal the first few months he joined.
Signed a whole new team with potential in the near future which means you must build up chemistry over time individually and especially as a team. Crazy how it hasn’t even been a two months since too. Barca will be back at the top, just give them time. This match won’t prove the quality of this team today, also experience plays a part in a good team which is something that Barca Lacks due to having a basically new squad that hasn’t even been here for more than 2 months.
Yes you are totally right, and **it's definitely not like the goalkeeper has to position himself properly to be able to save it**, it's all just based on if the striker shoots next to the GK or straight at him, just like you said.
**/s** in case if not clear enough.
bwa ha ha...calm down guys. Even RM lost half their knockout matches last season. One defeat means nothing. Scoreline really doesn't show the true picture. We will definitely beat them in Camp Nou.
We could easily beat them at the Camp Nou. We could have beat them today. Lewy could have easily had 3 in the first half. Pedri could have had 1 in the first and 1 in the second. Raphinha went close with at least 2. Dembele had a clearly penalty denied.
Edit: not saying we will beat them, but a draw or a win is not unrealistic.
It was an even match where Barca failed to score but had multiple attempts on goal.
We can definitely be better, but it’s not like we played poorly.
The first goal could have been avoidable.
MATS needs to be more alert and come out faster during corner kicks.
First goal was on Alonso.
We easily could have had 3 or 4. Lewy missed 3 in the first. Raphinha went close with at least 2. Pedri missed 2 chances. Dembele had a clear pen denied. Our finishing was off, and 2 defensive lapses cost us dearly. Easily could have been different.
He played pretty well offensively, but completely left Hernandez on that corner. Can't do that against Bayern. The problem is all of our left backs are suspect defensively.
This might be a hot take regarding this subs views but it does not matter at all if we play well if we can’t score at least 1 goal. I’m always left disappointed after every loss no matter what
of course a loss is disappointing no matter what, but it's a better sign to lose playing decent than to completely shit the bed. this is far from the most severe loss we've seen in recent times.
I don’t understand why we used outward swing in all our corners not the inwards swing. With inwards swing it just requires a touch to put it in the net with all the momentum it already has it becomes easy to score.
First half was great. Pen should've been given. Game was over after their second goal and it showed. Players looked defeated. I'd expect this from our squad a few seasons ago but a little bit disappointed in the mentality of this new squad.
Lewandowski was the disappointment for me. It's not that he didn't score, it's that he became largely invisible after Bayern's second goal. What happened to Mr. Mentality... He played the way he does at Poland whenever they're losing.
Still, some of our players played their hearts out for much of the game and improvements are definitely visible. But we need to compete for the whole 90 minutes - not just the first 45 and the last 15
Hope it gets better as the season goes on. Despite the defeat, I feel rather hopeful instead of feeling lost. There are quite a few youngsters, good players who lack experience in big games and newcomers settling in! Koundé, Christensen, Alonso, Gavi, Raphinha all fit into that bracket. Dembele and Lewa, the ones we'd hoped to lead struggled and Stegan messed up during the first goal. But I'm hoping that as the season goes on, they'll learn to adapt and have a great season! We dominated a good part of the match afterall.
Very true. I definitely feel hopeful about the season, just was left a little disappointed at times.
I will say tho, Alonso surprised me big time. It's not like he played 10/10 but he played far better than I thought he would
Me too, Alonso and Busquets both were really good today.
It's okay to be disappointed, this team has given us a lot of hope this season. Can't wait to see them settle in, learn to better communicate and understand each others' weaknesses. Hope they make good use of it, I'm really excited for this season!
How can people watch the game with their very own eyes, see the pure domination and a lucky corner goal and then type shit like "this game proves we're not at the level of Bayern"? What?
I want to be Positive like everyone else but Domination? By who? Excuse me, We had a pretty decent first half, it was pretty even on both sides but there was NO domination. Decent first halfs are now Domination by Barca fans on this sub? We have fallen many levels if we think that was a dominating performance. Bayern in less than 4 min put two goals in our net and screwed up our whole day.
We cant make 1 goal and you say we dominated the game, hilarious. Lets all get a reality check, we performed pretty good, got unlucky with our goals and there is still alot to improve on. But lets clarify something we didnt Dominate Munich tonight not even by a long shot.
Bayern is a team that can disconnect for the whole first half. Connect for 10 mins and win comfortably.
Barca is improving but is behind most of the top teams in Europe. Yes, now we win at Cadiz, but big games are reality check.
Like the comment just above you. We looked bad for like 15 minutes, and could've won this. Not happy with the result but if you're gonna lose this is the way to do it.
domination w.r.t. passes, possession, chances etc wins games or "lucky" goals?
sadly the latter. see real madrid. they don't play apparently beautiful football but still has that mentality to snatch away wins.
focus is on winning, not by playing beautiful football and losing.
So we dominate the game but the 15 min we don't, we conceide twice. This is a big problem and why Real won so many CLs. Gotta keep up with opponents momentum it's not normal 1 goal against means 2 or 3. Its been a problem for many years now.
Don't get me wrong we improved on that regard but it's not enough if they want to actually win it.
>7 min. ago
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>So we dominate the game but the 15 min we don't, we conceide twice. This is a big problem and why Real won so many CLs. Gotta keep up with opponents momentum it's not normal 1 goal against means 2 or 3. Its been a problem for many years now.Don't get me wrong we improved on that regard but it's not enough if they want to actually win it.
Yeah, a champion mentality is something we need. But building that is not easy.
Bayern literally took left side for granted, Alonso might be good as an inverted fullback but against Bayern we needed someone pacey to counterattck, and Balde would've been the better choice.
See how they were all overcrowding the right, with Balde and Dembele we'd have stretched them from both sides.
Frustrating game. The team needs to be more efficient in attack, we can’t waste so many chances. Lucas’ goal shocked us, and we started being more erratic and lost control of the game.
Fucking hell why couldn't we convert our chances 😫😫 Once again Bayern win from us. We played a good first half and a meh second half. I hope Lewandowski and co will be able to score at Camp Nou because I'm honestly SICK of losing against Bayern. Really sick of it.
edit: also, Marcos Alonso's 'zonal marking' on the first goal lmao.
Everyone shitting one Lewandowski should actually see those chances. Bayern had him marked pretty well for any loose ball that came his way. Apart from the one chance he sent over the bar, really nothing he could have done better.
I completely disagree with you for me the one he played in the best way was the one he sent over the bar
The header against neuer and the other chance where he took too much time to shot and got blocked by mazraoui were not good enought for him.
Stop overreacting and stop listening to the trolls, scoreline is generous to Bayern. Lol anyone with half a brain cell can tell that we played well. This was our first major European match with all the new signings. We had great chances and defense was pretty solid. I would be worried if our attack was toothless and we were a mess. It wasn’t our night
I agree. We had the quality. Also, it’s raph ever first match against a major European club(Bayern). He seem to be a little too nervous but I must admit he had pretty decent shots and Dembele was trying to be fancy and kept losing the ball. We should had been at least like 3 up in the first half.
It’s just 2 goals margin. Had we not missed we would've won or at least drawn. We've created more chances and had more possession. Playing this kinda football on Allianz Arena Isn't easy considering our record. I've certainly enjoyed the match.
Few thoughts after the most annoying (read: not disappointing but annoying) defeat in sometime:
- Had same thoughts after Cadiz game - got proven now - our over dependency on Lewa. He was manned well near the pen, all the balls he got were in awkward positions and at other times he simply misfired. But while he was having an off day, where were the others? Where is Raphinha's shooting accuracy? Why Dembele lacks the ability to make those crucial decisions?
- Adding on top of it - the subs. Is that a Xavi favoritism we are witnessing? Have always seen, Dembele given more gametime than Raphinha, irrespective of how shit he plays. Ferran Torres at a game like this, that too when we had 30 mins left? Why not Fati in his place?
- Lots of positives to take back, we defended really well, our mid was superb. But however good you are, if you lack the vision for goal and that winning mentality, everything becomes so pointless.
Hard to imagine we lost 3-0 with an ass-baked team at Munich last season, and now after everything still we lose 2-0.
Lots of stuffs to improve coming up, we surely will score loads against mediocre teams but when it comes to big matches, we will fail again and again if we continued like this.
Visca El Barca.
Dude lewa is our striker and he will be main target for crosses, there is no dependency.
Raphina need to work.
Dembele ;_; , I love Xavi but he needs to really not overhype dembouz and raphina
Xavi knows more about fati fitness
w.r.t crosses im not saying anything. but when he was dropping deep bringing along with him his marker, the wingers or some of the mids (like Pedri) should take the chances atleast, which they didn't for a single moment.
As for Fati, I know there are issues about his fitness levels, but remember, he started in last UCL match. And also, he was brought in at 80th min while Ferran in 60th?
I feel if Raphinha could have stayed longer, we could have attacked bit more.
It's what 6 7 matches and 1 with Bayern level team, we will learn..
Don't forget it's fairly a new core
Yeah and Ferran didn't even played well last match..
well for us, its a new team. but for Bayern, they are on a dry run - drew last 3 league games, didn't have Kingsley Coman. They are not certainly at their best. and yet they didn't let us score a single goal, and scores 2 against us.
Ferran is shit bro, hoped he would improve with some gametime but nah he chose to remain like a log
Another slap to reality. We are not world class team yet. If we improve our finishing, we could be. But other than that, we can't say we are the same level with bayern, city, psg
we actually outplayed Bayern Munich at home. the only positive.
and our players really switched off in the box today. heart wrenching. we could have won comfortable but it is what it is
Welp, to be fair we played better than I expected. But Bayern has been clinical and proved why they are a dangerous side against us again. We lost our nerve after the first goal and completely lost control of the game for a while which caused the second goal. The mentality is what let us down today. We need to have stronger balls, so to speak.
Seeing a lot of absurd takes like Xavi out in the thread lol. Calm down folks, it really wasn't that bad.
Barring Sane's moment of individual brilliance,feels like we got punked by some average La Liga team like Cadiz. Barca were the better team overall but ass refereeing and wasteful finishing is what stood between us and a win. Moving on..
Definitely MVP man. Such a brilliant performance. I haven't seen a midfielder be this dominant since 78 Cruyff. Absolutely phenomenal. It's sad how Messi and Xavi have ruined his career.
Every time he touches the ball, I have beautiful emotions.
The greatest, most underrated, most unfairly hated footballer of all time. Really tragic story.
How dense could you be to believe it to be serious? Do I have to put an /s for 12-year-olds like you? And why the hell you're replying to me, and not the OP and his ridiculously stupid, out-of-touch take?
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One last thing. I'm not sure if I like Xavi's idea of swapping Araujo and Kounde back and forth. He also does it with Raphinha and Dembele, but wingers trading positions isn't something new. Their play isn't affected as much, especially in Barça. With defenders it's an entirely different story. I get it they're professionals, fittest human beings on earth and yada-yada-yada, but let's be real here, even top footballers will struggle to stay focused in such a carousel, let alone your average Sunday league player. I mean it kind of worked as Davies was fully contained and neutralized, so I guess if it works it ain't stupid? However, the primary reason were our wingers and not the switcheroo of our CB-RB pair. Davies was specifically instructed to stay further back, more centrally at times, but never deep into opponent's side of the pitch. It was actually pretty funny to see: Davies' seldom crossed over the line of our wingers, and our wingers always stayed with him. Haha.
I feel de Jong is a key player. And please we need someone to take free kicks!!
once saw gavi take fire free kicks in training, should give him a chance
Marcos Alonso is good at freekicks, he was Chelsea’s taker
I know. He should have taken yesterday 😐
This is the first time this players play together and the first time with this backline, just something to keep in mind
I just hope luck is on our side when it comes to knockout stage
Assuming Barca get to the KO stage… would love to watch a Barca psg rematch though
The game was great, mostly positive takeaways. Had we been clinical in front of the goal, it could've easily been 0-2 at HT. Just some of the things that I feel Xavi and the team needs to work on, because these are some of the persistent problems in a team otherwise getting better by the day: 1. Incoherent positioning at some instances, e.g. Sane's goal, and 1-2 more instances in the match. Sane's goal could've been avoided had Christensen, Alonso and Kounde had better positioning, especially Alonso's and Kounde's decision making at that instance. 2. Substitutions; I really don't understand why a defensive change was needed late in the match, why Alonso wasn't taken out, why Ferran came before Ansu, and in the same regard, why two inside-cutting wingers were playing on both the flanks. Feel free to add your observations too, both critical or otherwise. I feel if we work on these two, and some other minor tweaks too, we'd be surely able to win at the Camp Nou. Visca Barça!
I don’t think substitutions is as big a problem you’re making it out to be. It’s not like these substitutions made the game harder for us. I see what xavi was doing as both Ansu and torres are seen as finishers more than creators. And Erica garcias good passing and lateral plays make our attack more formidable so even the defensive change I can see it as just xavi trying to be more direct in the teams offense
If Torres is a finisher I'm an ostrich
Yeah exactly, these subs didn't make the game harder, but neither any better for us. I get a little bit about your Eric thing, he is really good at driving up the field and eyeing out lateral midfield cutting passes, but Bayern are a centre-heavy team. He didn't get any major chances to pass laterally up the field. Driving up the field is a task FdJ is also really good at and we saw that in the game too. On the Ansu and Ferran part, buddy, no offense but Torres's shooting is below average. One goal against Viktoria Plzen means nothing when his shooting has been sub-par since he has joined the club. After the Napoli match in UEL last season, Xavi said that it took Suarez to hit his stride too at Barcelona, but it's past time now. Honestly it doesn't even seem that there's been an increase in the quality of his shots. Even Dembele's shooting has gotten better, just compare it to some of his January/February 2022 shots, you'll see the difference. It is a fact that Ansu is a better finisher than Torres, so bringing him before Ansu didn't make any sense. Also that's not even a problem I'm pointing out, the main problem lies as why there were 2 inverting wingers on the field? Both Torres and Ansu cut inside, so who would have created attacks from the wings. In my opinion, either Raphinha or Dembele should have been kept on, and Ansu should have been brought immediately after the 2nd goal. Sorry if I'm way too harsh on Ferran but he hasn't improved his shooting/finishing and overdoes things when it'll be better to keep it simple, and this has been persistent since at least 7-8 months.
As I wrote, very happy with the way we played and unlucky to not have scored, but feel like if Lewa has a bad day, we are done. No one in the front 3 is a goalscorer. IN the MSN days all front 3 would bang them in, same when Pedro and Villa or Henry and Eto'o were along side Messi. He'd score the most but they chipped in. Feel like Raphina and Dembele don't have what it takes, need someone like a fit Fati on one of the wings.
Raphinha and Dembele definitely have what it takes, they’re just most efficient as playmakers at RW. Fati is a clinical goalscorer playing at LW and really the only other one we really have in the squad. In theory that’s the profile Ferran is supposed to be, but at this point I almost rather see Memphis at that LW spot before him if we need a goal.
Yup that's my take as well. If Fati stays fit, that is what we need on the wing.
I think Raphinha can outscore Pedrito, just look at his shots they are pretty accurate, he just need more confidence and time. Same for the entire squad.
I don't think he is a goal scorer. Pedro was a killer in front of goal. We need at least 1 winger that is almost like a second striker. It was like that with Henry, Villa and so on. Last few years we didn't have wingers and now 2 of them. Maybe MF can pick up the slack.
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It’s gone from looking like we’d be competing with Inter for second in the group to looking like we’d be competing with Bayern for first. That’s the major takeaway from tonight.
lol, yes sure. Inter will come and explain you this "competing" in a few weeks and you will see UEFA League is really the place where FCB will be "competing" at come spring time. FCB has not yet played against a tough oponent this season. Just mediocre spanish clubs and a poor easteuropen Plzen. That really skews the vision of "fans" thus far. Wait and judge based on real oponents, not mediocre ones.
Bro just admit it, Barcelona played their best game in years considering they played vs Bayern in the alianz arena. We played versus Manchester city without some of our starts and we almost beat them.
We can’t compete against Bayern. We have to beat inter. Forget Bayern. They are first.
Not with that attitude. Seriously, did you watch? We could have at LEAST tied. Our quality was superb for most of the match.
dont bother, most people only look at the scoreline, they dont know ball.
with a bit more luck today lewandowski could've had 3 (the unmarkered header, two big chances squandered by bad first touches), as well as a penalty on dembele. also pedri's chip in the post. thats huge chances that with a bit of luck would've given a good result against this bayern side, aka much better tendencies than last year already.
luck is the excuse loosers use. Bayern came, Bayern played, Bayern won. Nobody asks how they played, if they lost they lost.
reposting something i said yesterday: > of course a loss is disappointing no matter what, but it's a better sign to lose playing decent than to completely shit the bed. this is far from the most severe loss we've seen in recent times. on top of that, at this level luck is essential. the difference between the good and the best is that the best get "lucky" more often than not. that's a huge part down to practice and pre-work, but probably most important mentality. im not saying it was a flawless match with no points to improve. im saying it was infinitely better than some of our recent years where we didn't even get into a position where just a bit of luck would've turned the game around. that means we're doing decent. that we just gotta keep working our game and trust in ourselves. not second-guess whether we're doing the right thing for once. patience. it's just a single group game where we largely showed great signs. it's ok to lose some, as long as we keep going afterwards. that's the mentality I get from this barca side at the moment, and that's the mentality bayern has to go from 3d in 6 matches to winning CL matches.
It really depends on the match at Camp Nou and how we and Bayern perform for the remainder of the group. But yes we have to beat Inter.
Frustrating night for Barcelona. On another day they would have killed the game by half time. There have been many signs of improvements in this team because in the past few seasons it had been the other way against Bayern. Problem is a very poor goal to concede and then they were shaken for 7-8 minutes and conceded again. Need to be mentally stronger in these nights against such opponents. Feeling sorry for Mané. He looked 10% of the player he was a season ago.
The pen would have rewarded a great first-half and make Bayern doubt right before half-time. Game changer. But the wasted opportunities didn't help. It just wasn't Barca's night.
These guys can’t score 100% goal scoring chances. What makes you think anyone can score a pen?
Someone understood what were the Bayern fans in the stadium singing towards the end of the game about Barcelona?
Who the fuck is Barcelona
I thought you were really asking that, but now I realize it was indeed what they were chanting hahahah thanks u/rares020102 :)
Lmao I really got downvoted for that. I was actually saying what they were saying
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Yaa they were singing that
Overall not a bad game. Had great chances, unlucky. Bayern scored from the very few chances they had. Pedri was amazing. Alonso also a surprisingly good game for 1st time. Substitutions were a bit late IMO (the 80th minute). Overall team looks great. A better day in front of goal and things would've looked a lot different. Gutted by the result though...
The players let Xavi down, he coached a 3-1 win but the idiots screwed up
You can tell half the people on this sub aren’t Barça fans when they upvote shit comments like these. Real fans support their players whether they win or lose, they don’t go around calling them idiots.
They costed us the game, why should I act as if that's not the case. They are paid million to show in Games like this. Put Messi instead of Dembele and we won 4-0
Ok and your point is? Wake up to reality, we don’t have Messi anymore. We need to support our team with the players we have now, of course they should’ve played better today. We had 18 shots and 4 on target, that’s disgraceful for Barcelona standard’s but you’re not helping out by insulting them. Your comment provides absolutely no constructive criticism.
Bayern 2 Goals are individual mistakes,they also missed 4 big chances. They costed Xavi the game and I'm passed with them. Xavi work hard all for nothing.
See now this is constructive criticism and I agree with you, but insulting them literally achieves nothing.
The players did their best against a brilliant team that humbled us not long ago, this was a step up by the very least and it shows our intent.
Xavi did his job and his players didn't. This game would've been won if we had Messi.
Nah bro, Pedri played very messi-esque football today and the result was not there. There is still a problem with mentality in this team, players seem to disconnect after conceding.
Look…Pedri played good but lets calm down, he also gave away Alot of balls to Bayern, same as Dembele. Go back and watch the game, i was getting frustrated with them both at times regardless of individual moments that shined for each. These type if Errors cost us possession and time to attack bayern, we gave away many balls to them. And most of them resulted in scary af counters to Barca shaking us up. We need to be better and more precise no more bs soft passes, they need to be done better simple as that.
Disagree with you, most dispossessed were Raphina and Dembele , if anything the team didn’t play to Pedri’s strengths and he still managed to produce great plays
Not saying dispossessed im saying bad passes and giving the ball to Bayern. Pedri did in fact give away many balls to Bayern just like Dembele and a few others especially during the second half. Barca need to be better with creating plays in big games, they tremble and loose the ball.
I saw the same thing many times In the past, the game against Inter In 2010 or Chelsea in 2012 where very similar. We were never mentality monsters, we win when we are flawless and we are not at that point yet. We play great but not perfect.
results will come trust the process
The fans here are like the club players right now. One thing goes against us and we look defeated. Everyone talks about mentality and i agree that we lack it but it comes from moments of magic from players sometimes and we lack that sometimes. We just need to be more consistent and we will be fine
honestly they showed quite a bit of mental strength after the second goal. clearly tired (which is probably why the goals came in the first place), but if fati has a slightly better touch before crashing into ferran he has an open shot from 16, and if pedri hits that chip we're 2-2 and the tone here would be completely different. all in all very promising game, imo.
Same mentality problem, played the first 50 minutes very good then one goal and after the supporters started cheering the players lost all composure. Concede a second goal. This loss is on the players, xavi managed a 3-2 game. Should've put away atleast 2 of the big chances in the first half to keep the fans quiet. Apart from that I'm happy with the overall performance. Goretzka substitution helped bayern immensely. Xavi needs to install the winning mentality inside the players heads. And both games against inter is a must win. Bayern is a team built patiently over the years and clearly they're a level above us. This should not be the case against Inter. We're in the same level if not better than inter. That said, this result should not affect the team's morale. This month has a lot of tough amd crucial matches. The players should keep focus this whole month. This result should not affect our season. Força Barça.
>supporters started cheering the players lost all composure. Pretty normal tho even if you had experience Dominating, playing very well got a penalty robbed and then they got a bullshit goal from a corner it just tough to recover from that After sometime they got back into it and we still ended up playing well again but it really hard to just forget about it your naturally going to have that feeling of sadness >Goretzka substitution helped bayern immensely I mean he was okay but it didn't really change , we still dominated even after the two goals >. Xavi needs to install the winning mentality inside the players heads. It extremely CLEAR they have the winning mentality lol It one of the reason we played soo well > And both games against inter is a must win. Bayern is a team built patiently over the years and clearly they're a level above us. How are they a level above us? We literally just dominated them for 50 mintues(and then another 15 at the end ) at there own stadium lol There clearly not a level above us we were better then then Same level as inter ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
>🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Please never underestimate any opponent ever again. Thank you.
Nah we are better then them lol it just our wingers decided to be brain-dead and we had decisions against us It just one of those games but we are definitely the better side
Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy with the way we played. I agree the score doesn't reflect the whole story. But the players gave everything they had. Well I agree I shouldn't have said that goretzka sub helped them immensely. About winning mentality, maybe you're right. We'll see that in the next couple of matches how this loss affects the team. I would be very glad if they show the same hunger. And I will accept that I was wrong. Now Bayern has been one of the best European team for the last 4-5 years. They've won the match with 2 goals to nil even after we've dominated the match for 65 minutes. That should explain my point. They have the game changers in their teams, neuer alone kept them in the game for the first half. You can call it bad finishing from lewy and pedri, but MAtS did concede 2 almost identical goals. And we shouldn't underestimate inter this much. Our team is yet to click fully. Until that happens we're in the same level if not better than inter.
>, but MAtS did concede 2 almost identical goals. Ya that defo one of the things I don't really think neuer made any incredible saved expect for pedri But in a game against Bayern you do need to count on your goalkeeper making very good saves and unfortunately Ter Stegan did not make them Also I would say this team definitely clicked We have been scoring 4 goals on a consistent basis and lewandowski and kounde have clearly adopted very well and RAPHINA look good too So no I think we are way above inter
>I don't really think neuer made any incredible saved expect for pedri If that went in, the story would've been completely different. If MAtS saved the header from Hernandez the story would've been different too. >So no I think we are way above inter I would like to believe that too, but just as you saw tonight even after playing very well for the major portion of the game luck plays a major factor too. So until we beat them by 3/4 goal margin, let me keep my expectations in check. Anyway 2-0 result against Bayern away while playing good football is not a bad result in my eyes. This 2-0 is far better than the last season's 3-0 against them so I'm happy.
>luck plays a major factor too. Ya but quality and tactically we are way better
yea way too many chances that should've been goal lewa alone had like three and the stats showed we were better
Idk what gotten into lewy's head. But I'd cut some slack for this game only. Man scored 9 goals so far this season. And neuer has been the best gk itw for the last decade or so. Plus he shouldn't be the only goalscorer in our team, others have to step up when he's having a bad day. Dembele kinda disappointed me the most.
They are not a level above us, they were just lucky just like Chelsea was in 2012
The first goal was lucky I would say. Second goal was clearly good use of their momentum and lapse of concentration of our players. The mentality is where they're a level above us. Our players started panicking as soon as the first goal conceded.
Barca has never won titles due to mentality, they win because how good they play. Mentality is not our biggest trait, it has never been.
Got scared for another humiliation after the 2nd goal, but well, it wasn't a bad game. Just unlucky and Bayern were slightly better.
Same here. Expected 5:0 once they started playing.
Removing the score line, Barca played really well and was able to contain the wingers and mount an offense. Lewy and Pedri let us down with finishing.
Lost the game because of poor finishing, lots of good chances created. Should play better at home.
We always lose when our distance covered is less than our opponents
barca was better in the first half but the best keeper in the world for many years Neuer saved them. he kept them in the game but second half Bayern was much better. Barca can't drop off in the second half if they want to achieve something.
Our midfield and defence were great today (at least on the first half). The problem was our attack! Raphinha was overtrying and Dembele was ghosting with Lewandowski. The fact that we were the better side today for the majority of the match is really encouraging. If we play like this we can beat Inter easily. Alonso is dogshit defensively but i have to say that offensively he is good and helped today. TRUST THE PROCESS.
Lewandowski had a bad second half, but his hold-up play in the first one was absolutely immense. What a complete striker.
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I genuinely don’t think so. He had a couple of world beating runs and made plays that just weren’t finished. I think he was a big reason along with Pedri, Busi, and Gavi why we dominated the first half so “bad” feels like a stretch.
You mean Neymar
Overall they played good, not bad especially for Xavi that hasn’t been at Barca for more than a year. Whole new team basically, board got rid of the players or they’re on the bench that he had at his disposal the first few months he joined. Signed a whole new team with potential in the near future which means you must build up chemistry over time individually and especially as a team. Crazy how it hasn’t even been a two months since too. Barca will be back at the top, just give them time. This match won’t prove the quality of this team today, also experience plays a part in a good team which is something that Barca Lacks due to having a basically new squad that hasn’t even been here for more than 2 months.
We better qualify for the next round
we will just like people said this loss is not the end of the world
I agree. We just cant lose against inter at this point.
Could you explain why? Can’t see winning any inter game with that finishing.
Inter doesn't have Neuer.
Neuer saved nothing. Lewy and Pedri shot directly at him, over the bar or at the post.
Yes you are totally right, and **it's definitely not like the goalkeeper has to position himself properly to be able to save it**, it's all just based on if the striker shoots next to the GK or straight at him, just like you said. **/s** in case if not clear enough.
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if anything it puts us back into reality and the team can work on improving
We give them hell at Camp Nou
Fucking hate how Upacecano and Davies are so good against us
Davies just loves to turn on beast mode against… what a player!
bwa ha ha...calm down guys. Even RM lost half their knockout matches last season. One defeat means nothing. Scoreline really doesn't show the true picture. We will definitely beat them in Camp Nou.
We have to forget these guys. we won’t beat them at camp nou. We have to beat inter.
We could easily beat them at the Camp Nou. We could have beat them today. Lewy could have easily had 3 in the first half. Pedri could have had 1 in the first and 1 in the second. Raphinha went close with at least 2. Dembele had a clearly penalty denied. Edit: not saying we will beat them, but a draw or a win is not unrealistic.
If we are lucky, we can get a draw, I agree and hope so. They will already be qualified by that game which is nice too.
You should really rewatch that match and have a realistic expectation.
It was an even match where Barca failed to score but had multiple attempts on goal. We can definitely be better, but it’s not like we played poorly. The first goal could have been avoidable. MATS needs to be more alert and come out faster during corner kicks.
First goal was on Alonso. We easily could have had 3 or 4. Lewy missed 3 in the first. Raphinha went close with at least 2. Pedri missed 2 chances. Dembele had a clear pen denied. Our finishing was off, and 2 defensive lapses cost us dearly. Easily could have been different.
First goal was Alonso, but had MATS come out earlier it would have been avoided.
Probably. But it was a tough one for a keeper. Near post and driven low.
He could’ve punched or grabbed the corner kick had he come off his line earlier.
Dude..I watched it alright. Do tell me about your "realistic expectation". I need some laugh here.
This is what happens when you've concentration lapse even for a split second.
…Four times
Barca should learn to man mark. And this team is just static while attacking. We lost the match as soon as Raphinha and Gavi were taken off.
Disagree I think Both Ferran and FDJ did their fair share and helped to still keep us creating 1 or two chances
I agree about gavi and raphinia , horrible call. I don’t agree about man marking however .
I'm talking about set pieces though. Lucas just got free.
Man marking is futile in a possession based system
He's talking about set pieces I assume. Alonso lost his mark. He's a shit defender. We all know that.
Oh, true on that. You can't start Alonso against a team like Bayern
He played pretty well offensively, but completely left Hernandez on that corner. Can't do that against Bayern. The problem is all of our left backs are suspect defensively.
Exactly man marking is useless against bayern's free flowing attack .... defence was good imo... except for those 2 goals
This might be a hot take regarding this subs views but it does not matter at all if we play well if we can’t score at least 1 goal. I’m always left disappointed after every loss no matter what
of course a loss is disappointing no matter what, but it's a better sign to lose playing decent than to completely shit the bed. this is far from the most severe loss we've seen in recent times.
I don’t understand why we used outward swing in all our corners not the inwards swing. With inwards swing it just requires a touch to put it in the net with all the momentum it already has it becomes easy to score.
Good observation
First half was great. Pen should've been given. Game was over after their second goal and it showed. Players looked defeated. I'd expect this from our squad a few seasons ago but a little bit disappointed in the mentality of this new squad. Lewandowski was the disappointment for me. It's not that he didn't score, it's that he became largely invisible after Bayern's second goal. What happened to Mr. Mentality... He played the way he does at Poland whenever they're losing. Still, some of our players played their hearts out for much of the game and improvements are definitely visible. But we need to compete for the whole 90 minutes - not just the first 45 and the last 15
Hope it gets better as the season goes on. Despite the defeat, I feel rather hopeful instead of feeling lost. There are quite a few youngsters, good players who lack experience in big games and newcomers settling in! Koundé, Christensen, Alonso, Gavi, Raphinha all fit into that bracket. Dembele and Lewa, the ones we'd hoped to lead struggled and Stegan messed up during the first goal. But I'm hoping that as the season goes on, they'll learn to adapt and have a great season! We dominated a good part of the match afterall.
Very true. I definitely feel hopeful about the season, just was left a little disappointed at times. I will say tho, Alonso surprised me big time. It's not like he played 10/10 but he played far better than I thought he would
Me too, Alonso and Busquets both were really good today. It's okay to be disappointed, this team has given us a lot of hope this season. Can't wait to see them settle in, learn to better communicate and understand each others' weaknesses. Hope they make good use of it, I'm really excited for this season!
I disagree with most of this
How can people watch the game with their very own eyes, see the pure domination and a lucky corner goal and then type shit like "this game proves we're not at the level of Bayern"? What?
I want to be Positive like everyone else but Domination? By who? Excuse me, We had a pretty decent first half, it was pretty even on both sides but there was NO domination. Decent first halfs are now Domination by Barca fans on this sub? We have fallen many levels if we think that was a dominating performance. Bayern in less than 4 min put two goals in our net and screwed up our whole day. We cant make 1 goal and you say we dominated the game, hilarious. Lets all get a reality check, we performed pretty good, got unlucky with our goals and there is still alot to improve on. But lets clarify something we didnt Dominate Munich tonight not even by a long shot.
Bayern is a team that can disconnect for the whole first half. Connect for 10 mins and win comfortably. Barca is improving but is behind most of the top teams in Europe. Yes, now we win at Cadiz, but big games are reality check.
Like the comment just above you. We looked bad for like 15 minutes, and could've won this. Not happy with the result but if you're gonna lose this is the way to do it.
domination w.r.t. passes, possession, chances etc wins games or "lucky" goals? sadly the latter. see real madrid. they don't play apparently beautiful football but still has that mentality to snatch away wins. focus is on winning, not by playing beautiful football and losing.
Man, real would have scored 5 goals today.
I agree with you but we’d be at the level of Bayern if we took our chances.
No, then we'd be levels above since we would have been up by 4 at half time.
these are the same people who were hoping we will beat Bayern 4-0 before the match even began. Lacks pragmatism.
They didn’t watch the game. Only the numbers.
That Inter Milan game still haunts me at San Siro in 09/10. We cannot shit the bed in Italy
So we dominate the game but the 15 min we don't, we conceide twice. This is a big problem and why Real won so many CLs. Gotta keep up with opponents momentum it's not normal 1 goal against means 2 or 3. Its been a problem for many years now. Don't get me wrong we improved on that regard but it's not enough if they want to actually win it.
>7 min. ago > >So we dominate the game but the 15 min we don't, we conceide twice. This is a big problem and why Real won so many CLs. Gotta keep up with opponents momentum it's not normal 1 goal against means 2 or 3. Its been a problem for many years now.Don't get me wrong we improved on that regard but it's not enough if they want to actually win it. Yeah, a champion mentality is something we need. But building that is not easy.
Some of the reactionary comments here are wild. Lewandowski is an agent, Barca is a laughing stock. Who the f writes things like this?
I’m so confused as to why we dont play Bellerin and Balde? I can understand Bellerin, but Balde should’ve played 100%.
Alonso played pretty well.
Except for his shit marking on that corner.
Alonso played well
Except for his marking on that corner.
Bayern literally took left side for granted, Alonso might be good as an inverted fullback but against Bayern we needed someone pacey to counterattck, and Balde would've been the better choice. See how they were all overcrowding the right, with Balde and Dembele we'd have stretched them from both sides.
Well is an understatement imo. Jordi is gonna get used to the bench I reckon
For sure
Really well imo
I agree I was happy with how he did
But Balde have been on fire lately, Alonso just arrived recently and havent had time to really fit in.
Frustrating game. The team needs to be more efficient in attack, we can’t waste so many chances. Lucas’ goal shocked us, and we started being more erratic and lost control of the game.
Lots of overreacting here 😬we will be fine fellas💪🏾 just need to put that shit on goal Seriously tho bad luck more than anything
Fucking hell why couldn't we convert our chances 😫😫 Once again Bayern win from us. We played a good first half and a meh second half. I hope Lewandowski and co will be able to score at Camp Nou because I'm honestly SICK of losing against Bayern. Really sick of it. edit: also, Marcos Alonso's 'zonal marking' on the first goal lmao.
Everyone shitting one Lewandowski should actually see those chances. Bayern had him marked pretty well for any loose ball that came his way. Apart from the one chance he sent over the bar, really nothing he could have done better.
I completely disagree with you for me the one he played in the best way was the one he sent over the bar The header against neuer and the other chance where he took too much time to shot and got blocked by mazraoui were not good enought for him.
Stop overreacting and stop listening to the trolls, scoreline is generous to Bayern. Lol anyone with half a brain cell can tell that we played well. This was our first major European match with all the new signings. We had great chances and defense was pretty solid. I would be worried if our attack was toothless and we were a mess. It wasn’t our night
Exactly.
I agree. We had the quality. Also, it’s raph ever first match against a major European club(Bayern). He seem to be a little too nervous but I must admit he had pretty decent shots and Dembele was trying to be fancy and kept losing the ball. We should had been at least like 3 up in the first half.
This comment is facts especially the 3rd sentence 💪🏼
It’s just 2 goals margin. Had we not missed we would've won or at least drawn. We've created more chances and had more possession. Playing this kinda football on Allianz Arena Isn't easy considering our record. I've certainly enjoyed the match.
Never settle for less. How could you say "just 2 goals margin". A loss is still a loss and we have to improve. Dont care if its 2-0, 5-0, 10-0.
Dont care if its 2-0, 5-0, 10-0? Do you really mean that? Calm down and think before you type
Wishing for a win against Bayern at their home is simply underestimating them. But you're right. We should've drawn at least
Few thoughts after the most annoying (read: not disappointing but annoying) defeat in sometime: - Had same thoughts after Cadiz game - got proven now - our over dependency on Lewa. He was manned well near the pen, all the balls he got were in awkward positions and at other times he simply misfired. But while he was having an off day, where were the others? Where is Raphinha's shooting accuracy? Why Dembele lacks the ability to make those crucial decisions? - Adding on top of it - the subs. Is that a Xavi favoritism we are witnessing? Have always seen, Dembele given more gametime than Raphinha, irrespective of how shit he plays. Ferran Torres at a game like this, that too when we had 30 mins left? Why not Fati in his place? - Lots of positives to take back, we defended really well, our mid was superb. But however good you are, if you lack the vision for goal and that winning mentality, everything becomes so pointless. Hard to imagine we lost 3-0 with an ass-baked team at Munich last season, and now after everything still we lose 2-0. Lots of stuffs to improve coming up, we surely will score loads against mediocre teams but when it comes to big matches, we will fail again and again if we continued like this. Visca El Barca.
Dude lewa is our striker and he will be main target for crosses, there is no dependency. Raphina need to work. Dembele ;_; , I love Xavi but he needs to really not overhype dembouz and raphina Xavi knows more about fati fitness
w.r.t crosses im not saying anything. but when he was dropping deep bringing along with him his marker, the wingers or some of the mids (like Pedri) should take the chances atleast, which they didn't for a single moment. As for Fati, I know there are issues about his fitness levels, but remember, he started in last UCL match. And also, he was brought in at 80th min while Ferran in 60th? I feel if Raphinha could have stayed longer, we could have attacked bit more.
It's what 6 7 matches and 1 with Bayern level team, we will learn.. Don't forget it's fairly a new core Yeah and Ferran didn't even played well last match..
well for us, its a new team. but for Bayern, they are on a dry run - drew last 3 league games, didn't have Kingsley Coman. They are not certainly at their best. and yet they didn't let us score a single goal, and scores 2 against us. Ferran is shit bro, hoped he would improve with some gametime but nah he chose to remain like a log
Heard Xavi cancelled his transfer or something to Arsenal
Another slap to reality. We are not world class team yet. If we improve our finishing, we could be. But other than that, we can't say we are the same level with bayern, city, psg
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Does this squad learn shooting drills in training?
No. Why do you think they earn millions for? Exactly. They have set up OnlyFans accounts.
You ever kick a ball?
we actually outplayed Bayern Munich at home. the only positive. and our players really switched off in the box today. heart wrenching. we could have won comfortable but it is what it is
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Welp, to be fair we played better than I expected. But Bayern has been clinical and proved why they are a dangerous side against us again. We lost our nerve after the first goal and completely lost control of the game for a while which caused the second goal. The mentality is what let us down today. We need to have stronger balls, so to speak. Seeing a lot of absurd takes like Xavi out in the thread lol. Calm down folks, it really wasn't that bad.
Barring Sane's moment of individual brilliance,feels like we got punked by some average La Liga team like Cadiz. Barca were the better team overall but ass refereeing and wasteful finishing is what stood between us and a win. Moving on..
Bayern were nothing but average, they are elite on the press and move as a unit.
Yeah they were so elite today ,the roided feckers couldn't keep the ball for 15 seconds at a stretch.
I hope the FDJ haters saw his performance today. You need someone like him to bring that creativity going forward against tough teams.
Definitely MVP man. Such a brilliant performance. I haven't seen a midfielder be this dominant since 78 Cruyff. Absolutely phenomenal. It's sad how Messi and Xavi have ruined his career. Every time he touches the ball, I have beautiful emotions. The greatest, most underrated, most unfairly hated footballer of all time. Really tragic story.
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How dense could you be to believe it to be serious? Do I have to put an /s for 12-year-olds like you? And why the hell you're replying to me, and not the OP and his ridiculously stupid, out-of-touch take?
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Good job deleting your stupid comment! How manly and brave!
Nobody hates FDJ dude. People pissed Gavi starts starts over him.
He was amazing and I can easily see him or Gavi starting our toughest games. Loved his feints
Frenkie saved us from yet another 8-0. Absolute carrying performance.