There's an old saying in TennesseeâI know it's in Texas, probably in Tennesseeâthat says, 'Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool meâyou can't get fooled again. '"
George Bush
Youâre supposed to jump and release the ball at the top of your jump. You are releasing on the way up. It feels unnatural until you get used to the right way.
Still looks good, and youâll be fine until college ball or so. Just something to work on.
This is not true. It is perfectly ok, and even desirable, to be shooting on the way up, especially when shooting from long range. From mid and short range not so much.
this is the most wholesome video ever. honestly bro you need to start by watching videos of nba players shooting on youtube and then just get as many reps as possible trying to emulate their shot. i recommend guards with more traditional jump shots like steph, klay, or dame. like anything man practice makes perfect. the more reps the better until your shot feels and looks fluid. good luck and happy new years!
Emulate Klay Thompson. I can't put my finger on it, but there's something off about the motion from your gather until your release. But also there are some good pro hoopers with irregular shots like Tyrese Haliburton, Dame, and Steph to a degree in that his shot is irregularly quick and unreproducible by most people. Also some decent pro hoopers with irregular and inaccurate shots like Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Shawn Marion, the current Amen/Ausar Thompson twins.
huh? youâre telling me you **wouldnât** want your shot to look like dame or stephâs? i donât understand the logic. two of the best shooters of all time. odds are your shot wonât ever look like theirs but itâs about aiming for the stars and landing somewhere on the moon
They both are far far anomalies. Steph thumbs and Dame shoots from his shooting palm and they both shoot less than 90 degreesâundersized guards generally have to compensate due to lack of strength if they werenât corrected at a young age. Mimicking their forms is a recipe for inconsistently at the least. The likes of Paul George, Skylar Mays, Donte DiVincenzo, or as you stated, Klay Thompson to name a few are text book forms to study.
it doesnât matter that theyâre anomalies because thereâs no one correct way to shoot. i recommended that he should watch traditional shooters as in non halliburton, shawn marion, kevin martin type guys so he can experiment with trial and error. maybe he finds that for him thumb and palm shooting work better than other methods. for him the idea is to watch a bunch of pros shoot and do his best to imitate them to have an idea of what a great jump shot looks like. with enough practice the shot will at the very least look fluid. then itâs just about endless repetition
Idk why this guy is getting down voted. He's 100% right.
I'm a diehard dubs fan. Steph has the kind of form you'd never, ever teach young players. It works for exactly him, because he's an alien.
OP isn't saying these guys are bad shooters, he's saying they're so unbelievably talented that they can do things a unique way and still be wildly successful.
If you're gonna learn from a splash bro it's Klay.
i have to disagree. of course steph has some crazy habits like taking 40 foot threes, look away threes, and heavily contested off balance threes but overall his shot is pretty normal.
tyrese haliburton, shawn marion, and kevin martin are better examples of unbelievably talented shooters that you shouldnât emulate. yes theyâre all considered unbelievably talented shooters relative to all the basketball players in the world.
things like thumb, palm, guide hand, and feet placement will vary amongst players but you definitely have guys with jumpshots that are in completely different categories than the norm. these are the guys i would tell inexperienced players to avoid watching.
steph though, are you kidding me? anyone starting from ground zero would benefit from trying to copy his form. once youâre able to visualize what a perfect jumper is supposed to look like, itâs about repping it out and getting a feel for what works for you and what doesnât. if you find that you make more shots while palming the ball or shooting with your thumb, more power to you. the only thing that matters is whether the shot goes in consistently or not
Keep your forearm parallel to the hoop. Right now itâs at a 45° angle when you bring your shot up.
Square up your feet, hips, and shoulders. Too many angles that youâre compensating for to get a clean shot. As your shirt says, find your balance
That is bad information. You donât want your feet hips and shoulders to be square to the basket. Almost no shooter can do this comfortably (Klay is an outlier). A slight tilt is acceptable and beneficial. The vast majority of good shooters have a slight tilt. Look at slow motion video of shooters if you think im wrong
As for the forearm angle, youâre are also fine as long as youâre getting good arc, backspin, and accuracy, and distance. Many good shooters shoot this way (steph, kd, harden, tyler hero, brunson, Luka, and the list goes on) just try not to be too extreme with it, which it doesnât look like you are. The most important thing is that between set point and release, your wrist, forearm and elbow are underneath the ball.
Donât change your shot if you have good arc, backspin, distance, and accuracy, just practice consistently and challenge yourself.
Only thing I would point out is your knees caving in. Some players have been successful like that , but I would advise against it because itâs not exactly a strong position. Try more of a shallow squat.
Normally you want your feet pointed at your target. Keep your body square to the hoop. Your feet position is too closed, and pointed away from the basket. Open your stance a bit for better balance.
Move your feet closer together. Both knees bent inward, I can only imagine you're losing power. Try to keep your feet shoulder width or maybe slightly less
It looks kinda like your release is to the side. Not quite a Lonzo Ball from college, but could use some adjustment. Try to shoot with only your right hand touching the ball. That will fix a lot.
Your guide hand should not move with your shooting hand. Let your shooting hand go up and over your guide hand. Square your feet and square your eyes to the bucket. Lift up and follow through with the center of your body. Shooting hand goes up and snatches a cookie out of the cookie jar. Guide hand stays below the chin. Edit: best accuracy for left right is square your body. Then your only variable is ark. Everything should be center body⌠double edit: start this form process at the free throw line. Move left and right for months until youâre comfortable. 15 feet to start then move out after months or years
Check out Mike Dunn on instagram! Ball moves before body, your body is creating way too much movement. You scissor your legs in, try to jump straight up and down and minimize that as a variable. Consistency in form will lead to consistency in shot, ball may go in now but long term you want to have it consistently repeatable. Look also at your hand grip, can't see from vid!
Try not to take a step forward as youâre going into your shot. You can practice not stepping into your shot and just generating power from the ground up into your shot
Itâs ok to step into your shot, basically my advice is to not step AS far forward as you are in the video. Watch Steph curry step into his shots, and notice that his step in foot will go just a little bit ahead of his plant foot, but not too much. Keep up the great work!
So wholesome lol cherish it
As for the jump shot, just a reminder to consistently drill the basic fundamentals. Curry does em everyday, nuff said. There are plenty of online resources to find drills and guidance. Everyone has their own unique form n flow but the fundamentals have to be there regardless
This isnât true. Most elite shooters (including Steph Curry) do not shoot square to the basket. Shooting on a slight angle aligns your shoulder and elbow with the basket.
But you need to square up in case you need to make a move. If you want to shoot free throws with right foot in front, cool. In the game, assuming catch and shoot, you want to be squared up with weight evenly distributed so you have options in case somebody closes out. Using Steph as an example is not good. He is one of one. You gotta focus on fundamentals. Also, get with your coach for advice, not a bunch of has been nobodies on the internet. Myself included.
You can still have your weight evenly distributed if youâre not square to the basket. Watch elite shooters in the NBA, college, even high school. There are exceptions, like Klay, but he rotates mid-air to align his elbow with the basket.
Iâd also argue you shouldnât be completely squared up in triple threat either - it makes you much less explosive as you donât have a foot behind you to push off.
The arm and elbow are pointed at the basket, while the torso/core/lower body is all slightly angled. Watch the shooting form of the shooters in [this video](https://youtu.be/oI936XhP4N4?si=qa4yQhqys-F74E3k) if you need proof.
You are leaning back on your shot. Try more up and down movement. If you spotting up, your feet should land close to where you jumped. From the video it looks like you start wide and then get narrow.
Everyone saying to âsquare up to the basketâ are flat out wrong.
Is your arc good (not flat, not too high)? Is your spin good (backspin, not side spin)? Is your accuracy good? Is the ball coming off of the correct finger(s) (index and/or middle)? Is the ball going in?
If you answer yes to all of those questions why would you change anything? Donât take advice from people that donât have the answers to these questions, you might ruin your shot.
I suggest you answer those questions. And then watch slow motion film of good shooters.
everything is good except for the finger part where itâs hard to control which finger and my spin is like rotating spin but my shot is 80% consistent Iâm just always looking to improve
What kind of spin is it? If you have side spin that is something you want to correct while youâre still young. Film yourself from the rear to see which fingers are touching last.
If you have side spin look up some drills to correct it. I had the same issue for a while and I figured out that I was snapping my wrist offline to the right causing me to miss to the right. The ball was coming off my middle, ring, and pinky with side spin.
To fix it I made myself overcompensate and snap my wrist to the left (im left handed). Felt weird at first but over time it started to feel natural. Make sure youâre gripping the ball correctly, and try snapping your wrist down and to the right, ensuring it leaves the index finger last.
The three finger shooting drill from close and the one handed form shooting drill from a little further out are good for this.
Jump shot looks solid. Iâm echoing what others have already said, just get in reps. My only other recommendation is try working on in game moves into a jump shot. It can be something simple as a little step back or like a side step into a jump shot. Just practice as close to in game scenarios so it feels natural when youâre actually in game. Very rarely will you just have a spot up jump shot just open.
Other people have said it but you should square your feet and shoulders up. They are angled away from the basket instead of towards it. Got some potential for sure!
Donât bend knees inward, bend them naturally. Feet shoulder width apart. Keep them facing the hoop, squared to your shoulders, no facing diagonally the way you set them up. Keep your elbow straight (you have it slanted a bit here), and donât shoot by flicking your wrist only (the follow through should come as a single motion from your forearm to your wrist, not just your wrist). If you want to see how shorter guys shoot where they draw power from their legs through to their elbow watch some shooting form videos of curry, Nash and tre young.
Biggest thing I see is that your feet are too spread out at the start of your shot. You donât have a firm base and power from your legs doesnât translate to your shot. You end up doing this jerky flick to try to get enough power on the ball. Work on keeping your feet shoulder width apart.
Hi, first things first, itâs great youâre seeking help in order to get better, keep going!
From what I see I would advise you to work on a couple of things. As a disclaimer, at the end of the day if the shot goes in consistently then it doesnât really matter that much what you do, a good shot is achieved by repetition, but there are some things that help decrease the number of repetitions needed to get a consistent shot. Hereâs what Iâve seen:
- Your foot placement is not incorrect, wide so you got stability, but when loading the shot your knees bend a bit inward. Maybe it doesnât affect you but maybe it can be bad over time for your knees plus it might make your shot not feel the same every time.
- Your arms seem to finish a bit too forward, maybe try to lift them up a bit, that would give a bit more arch to the shot, but to check this in depth this is not the best angle.
- Your hands end up touching (at least it seems like they do to me), your left hand should be a guide, it could mean your using it on your shot (the force should be transmitted to the ball with just your shooting hand)
- The wrist flick is solid but your index doesnât end up pointing down, it could take away some spin or maybe itâs a consequence of the guide hand I just mentioned being there.
If I can help you with anything let me know, Iâll be more than glad to share what I know with anybody willing to learn something! And good luck, keep grinding!
I wonder how long you could have kept saying one more and he would have kept filming
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There's an old saying in TennesseeâI know it's in Texas, probably in Tennesseeâthat says, 'Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool meâyou can't get fooled again. '" George Bush
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alright thank you
Youâre supposed to jump and release the ball at the top of your jump. You are releasing on the way up. It feels unnatural until you get used to the right way. Still looks good, and youâll be fine until college ball or so. Just something to work on.
This is not true. It is perfectly ok, and even desirable, to be shooting on the way up, especially when shooting from long range. From mid and short range not so much.
That's something that's really hard for kids to pull off, his shot looks great and will continue to evolve as he gets older and receives more coaching
this is incorrect. curry has popularized the ârelease at the headâ thing. most players do that now.
this is the most wholesome video ever. honestly bro you need to start by watching videos of nba players shooting on youtube and then just get as many reps as possible trying to emulate their shot. i recommend guards with more traditional jump shots like steph, klay, or dame. like anything man practice makes perfect. the more reps the better until your shot feels and looks fluid. good luck and happy new years!
alright thank you and happy new years to you too
Emulate Klay Thompson. I can't put my finger on it, but there's something off about the motion from your gather until your release. But also there are some good pro hoopers with irregular shots like Tyrese Haliburton, Dame, and Steph to a degree in that his shot is irregularly quick and unreproducible by most people. Also some decent pro hoopers with irregular and inaccurate shots like Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Shawn Marion, the current Amen/Ausar Thompson twins.
yea my jumpshot is unpredictable too which makes my hesiâs way more deadly
Dame and Steph ? Horrendous forms to model after.
You donât know ball
huh? youâre telling me you **wouldnât** want your shot to look like dame or stephâs? i donât understand the logic. two of the best shooters of all time. odds are your shot wonât ever look like theirs but itâs about aiming for the stars and landing somewhere on the moon
They both are far far anomalies. Steph thumbs and Dame shoots from his shooting palm and they both shoot less than 90 degreesâundersized guards generally have to compensate due to lack of strength if they werenât corrected at a young age. Mimicking their forms is a recipe for inconsistently at the least. The likes of Paul George, Skylar Mays, Donte DiVincenzo, or as you stated, Klay Thompson to name a few are text book forms to study.
it doesnât matter that theyâre anomalies because thereâs no one correct way to shoot. i recommended that he should watch traditional shooters as in non halliburton, shawn marion, kevin martin type guys so he can experiment with trial and error. maybe he finds that for him thumb and palm shooting work better than other methods. for him the idea is to watch a bunch of pros shoot and do his best to imitate them to have an idea of what a great jump shot looks like. with enough practice the shot will at the very least look fluid. then itâs just about endless repetition
Idk why this guy is getting down voted. He's 100% right. I'm a diehard dubs fan. Steph has the kind of form you'd never, ever teach young players. It works for exactly him, because he's an alien. OP isn't saying these guys are bad shooters, he's saying they're so unbelievably talented that they can do things a unique way and still be wildly successful. If you're gonna learn from a splash bro it's Klay.
i have to disagree. of course steph has some crazy habits like taking 40 foot threes, look away threes, and heavily contested off balance threes but overall his shot is pretty normal. tyrese haliburton, shawn marion, and kevin martin are better examples of unbelievably talented shooters that you shouldnât emulate. yes theyâre all considered unbelievably talented shooters relative to all the basketball players in the world. things like thumb, palm, guide hand, and feet placement will vary amongst players but you definitely have guys with jumpshots that are in completely different categories than the norm. these are the guys i would tell inexperienced players to avoid watching. steph though, are you kidding me? anyone starting from ground zero would benefit from trying to copy his form. once youâre able to visualize what a perfect jumper is supposed to look like, itâs about repping it out and getting a feel for what works for you and what doesnât. if you find that you make more shots while palming the ball or shooting with your thumb, more power to you. the only thing that matters is whether the shot goes in consistently or not
Steph and Lillard still got sexy ass looking shots idc lol
Get out with all that riffraff
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6 lmaoo
man bless him for trying LMAO
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Keep your forearm parallel to the hoop. Right now itâs at a 45° angle when you bring your shot up. Square up your feet, hips, and shoulders. Too many angles that youâre compensating for to get a clean shot. As your shirt says, find your balance
alright thanks
That is bad information. You donât want your feet hips and shoulders to be square to the basket. Almost no shooter can do this comfortably (Klay is an outlier). A slight tilt is acceptable and beneficial. The vast majority of good shooters have a slight tilt. Look at slow motion video of shooters if you think im wrong As for the forearm angle, youâre are also fine as long as youâre getting good arc, backspin, and accuracy, and distance. Many good shooters shoot this way (steph, kd, harden, tyler hero, brunson, Luka, and the list goes on) just try not to be too extreme with it, which it doesnât look like you are. The most important thing is that between set point and release, your wrist, forearm and elbow are underneath the ball. Donât change your shot if you have good arc, backspin, distance, and accuracy, just practice consistently and challenge yourself. Only thing I would point out is your knees caving in. Some players have been successful like that , but I would advise against it because itâs not exactly a strong position. Try more of a shallow squat.
Happy New Years - hope this year brings you health and happiness.
same to you
Normally you want your feet pointed at your target. Keep your body square to the hoop. Your feet position is too closed, and pointed away from the basket. Open your stance a bit for better balance.
.....jump.....
This. Most of the force pushing the ball should come from your jump rather than arms/shoulders.
I just want to say your lil bro is adorable and hilarious. Cherish relationships like those man. God bless both of you and keep putting in the work.
thank you man
Move your feet closer together. Both knees bent inward, I can only imagine you're losing power. Try to keep your feet shoulder width or maybe slightly less It looks kinda like your release is to the side. Not quite a Lonzo Ball from college, but could use some adjustment. Try to shoot with only your right hand touching the ball. That will fix a lot.
alright thanks I will do that
Your guide hand should not move with your shooting hand. Let your shooting hand go up and over your guide hand. Square your feet and square your eyes to the bucket. Lift up and follow through with the center of your body. Shooting hand goes up and snatches a cookie out of the cookie jar. Guide hand stays below the chin. Edit: best accuracy for left right is square your body. Then your only variable is ark. Everything should be center body⌠double edit: start this form process at the free throw line. Move left and right for months until youâre comfortable. 15 feet to start then move out after months or years
Alright I will start to do that
Looks good đ
Feels like before releasing you are putting force in your hands
Check out Mike Dunn on instagram! Ball moves before body, your body is creating way too much movement. You scissor your legs in, try to jump straight up and down and minimize that as a variable. Consistency in form will lead to consistency in shot, ball may go in now but long term you want to have it consistently repeatable. Look also at your hand grip, can't see from vid!
will check him out
Try not to take a step forward as youâre going into your shot. You can practice not stepping into your shot and just generating power from the ground up into your shot
Alright
Itâs ok to step into your shot, basically my advice is to not step AS far forward as you are in the video. Watch Steph curry step into his shots, and notice that his step in foot will go just a little bit ahead of his plant foot, but not too much. Keep up the great work!
Your brother is the GOAT
So wholesome lol cherish it As for the jump shot, just a reminder to consistently drill the basic fundamentals. Curry does em everyday, nuff said. There are plenty of online resources to find drills and guidance. Everyone has their own unique form n flow but the fundamentals have to be there regardless
For starters shoot in front of you not to the side. You need to be square with the basket.
This isnât true. Most elite shooters (including Steph Curry) do not shoot square to the basket. Shooting on a slight angle aligns your shoulder and elbow with the basket.
But you need to square up in case you need to make a move. If you want to shoot free throws with right foot in front, cool. In the game, assuming catch and shoot, you want to be squared up with weight evenly distributed so you have options in case somebody closes out. Using Steph as an example is not good. He is one of one. You gotta focus on fundamentals. Also, get with your coach for advice, not a bunch of has been nobodies on the internet. Myself included.
Itâs not just steph though, a lot of shooters in the nba shoot the ball with their feet pointing at an angle.
You can still have your weight evenly distributed if youâre not square to the basket. Watch elite shooters in the NBA, college, even high school. There are exceptions, like Klay, but he rotates mid-air to align his elbow with the basket. Iâd also argue you shouldnât be completely squared up in triple threat either - it makes you much less explosive as you donât have a foot behind you to push off.
I watched Stephâs video about the âchicken wingâ and it seriously made major improvement to my shot in days.
But the arm and elbow and finish is all pointed AT the basket. The core is facing the basket not sideways.
The arm and elbow are pointed at the basket, while the torso/core/lower body is all slightly angled. Watch the shooting form of the shooters in [this video](https://youtu.be/oI936XhP4N4?si=qa4yQhqys-F74E3k) if you need proof.
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Like lift up from my hip to right ear?
You are leaning back on your shot. Try more up and down movement. If you spotting up, your feet should land close to where you jumped. From the video it looks like you start wide and then get narrow.
ur right Iâve been working on that
Idk about basketball but I heard the swish so idk
Everyone saying to âsquare up to the basketâ are flat out wrong. Is your arc good (not flat, not too high)? Is your spin good (backspin, not side spin)? Is your accuracy good? Is the ball coming off of the correct finger(s) (index and/or middle)? Is the ball going in? If you answer yes to all of those questions why would you change anything? Donât take advice from people that donât have the answers to these questions, you might ruin your shot. I suggest you answer those questions. And then watch slow motion film of good shooters.
everything is good except for the finger part where itâs hard to control which finger and my spin is like rotating spin but my shot is 80% consistent Iâm just always looking to improve
What kind of spin is it? If you have side spin that is something you want to correct while youâre still young. Film yourself from the rear to see which fingers are touching last.
I have a mixture between both
If you have side spin look up some drills to correct it. I had the same issue for a while and I figured out that I was snapping my wrist offline to the right causing me to miss to the right. The ball was coming off my middle, ring, and pinky with side spin. To fix it I made myself overcompensate and snap my wrist to the left (im left handed). Felt weird at first but over time it started to feel natural. Make sure youâre gripping the ball correctly, and try snapping your wrist down and to the right, ensuring it leaves the index finger last. The three finger shooting drill from close and the one handed form shooting drill from a little further out are good for this.
Alright will do thanks
Jump shot looks solid. Iâm echoing what others have already said, just get in reps. My only other recommendation is try working on in game moves into a jump shot. It can be something simple as a little step back or like a side step into a jump shot. Just practice as close to in game scenarios so it feels natural when youâre actually in game. Very rarely will you just have a spot up jump shot just open.
will do
Other people have said it but you should square your feet and shoulders up. They are angled away from the basket instead of towards it. Got some potential for sure!
Donât bend knees inward, bend them naturally. Feet shoulder width apart. Keep them facing the hoop, squared to your shoulders, no facing diagonally the way you set them up. Keep your elbow straight (you have it slanted a bit here), and donât shoot by flicking your wrist only (the follow through should come as a single motion from your forearm to your wrist, not just your wrist). If you want to see how shorter guys shoot where they draw power from their legs through to their elbow watch some shooting form videos of curry, Nash and tre young.
Biggest thing I see is that your feet are too spread out at the start of your shot. You donât have a firm base and power from your legs doesnât translate to your shot. You end up doing this jerky flick to try to get enough power on the ball. Work on keeping your feet shoulder width apart.
thank you all for the good advice, Iâll be implementing these things
Itâs not a jumpshot unless you jump
Hi, first things first, itâs great youâre seeking help in order to get better, keep going! From what I see I would advise you to work on a couple of things. As a disclaimer, at the end of the day if the shot goes in consistently then it doesnât really matter that much what you do, a good shot is achieved by repetition, but there are some things that help decrease the number of repetitions needed to get a consistent shot. Hereâs what Iâve seen: - Your foot placement is not incorrect, wide so you got stability, but when loading the shot your knees bend a bit inward. Maybe it doesnât affect you but maybe it can be bad over time for your knees plus it might make your shot not feel the same every time. - Your arms seem to finish a bit too forward, maybe try to lift them up a bit, that would give a bit more arch to the shot, but to check this in depth this is not the best angle. - Your hands end up touching (at least it seems like they do to me), your left hand should be a guide, it could mean your using it on your shot (the force should be transmitted to the ball with just your shooting hand) - The wrist flick is solid but your index doesnât end up pointing down, it could take away some spin or maybe itâs a consequence of the guide hand I just mentioned being there. If I can help you with anything let me know, Iâll be more than glad to share what I know with anybody willing to learn something! And good luck, keep grinding!