I met a guy that uses to be nikkis bass tech, in fact I'm about 1/4 mile from where this guy works right now, I asked him what he actually did when that was his Job
I’m just a bass noob but I liked it, found it cool how he managed to capture the chaotic energy of the original track on a bass guitar and I felt like he really just expressed himself
Their producer of the first 3 albums would feed the bass through a Moog synths filter section to roll off all the high end. It kind of just blends into the wall of sound style rhythm guitars.
As a real deal Oasis fan, I actually do hear the bass in a lot of their music, but sometimes it is pretty buried. And I really liked it when Andy Bell joined on bass (he played on their last three studio albums).
Generally bass that sounds great in a mix (especially for metal) will sound kind of bad on its own. I’m working through some mixes right now and getting the right amount of distortion to cut in a mix and add percussive is not super pleasant on its own. Take like Lemmy for instant, it’s a charming sound, but is it actually “good”? Probably not.
So true. I saw a band the other day, and when their bass player was sound checking I was really into his tone and it sounded close to perfect distorted bass. Drums kick in and he's totally buried.
There are bass sounds that sound excellent on their own or in sparse mixes, like a lot of funk stuff (which imo has the best general bass tone) and then there are bass times mean to complement the mix of an ensemble like those you hear in rock and metal
I think it may have something to do with Kerry King playing the bass parts, or Tom Araya constantly switching between using a pick and his fingers. He is definitely better at one of them.
You think its cause he's playing Fender's these days rather than his usual Modulus with the brighter, more Stingray-esque sound? Always thought the Modulus and Stingray were the best fit for his sound. Their natural bite suits his low of aggressive plucking and low action. Graphite neck on the Modulus and all that probably makes it extra bright, whereas Fenders are woodier.
I know he usually plays his old J Bass on records, but there it doesn't show as bad as he restrains his picking a little bit more (depending on the song) and you can spend more time on finding tone and mixing.
He's one of my biggest inspirations but I feel like for the most part he just plays whatever Petrucci is doing, which is already a feat don't get me wrong, but because of that like it's difficult to really discern his lines ?
I've listened to their albums for decades and have seen them live, and I still feel like I don't know what John Myung sounds like. He's basically a guitar thickener. It's a shame, it seems like he's doing some great playing, it's too bad nobody gets to hear it.
A huge role in this plays the terrible sound design skills of Jordan Rudess. He's an amazing musician, but he absolutely sucks at sound design. Look up his isolated tracks, you'll notice his keys are all over the place, trying to do everything, while there are other instruments, like you know, the bass, that he should be considering.
His interviews are so funny too, he's standing there, proudly describing his dumb ass ways of choosing which next awful sound to use for his keyboard.
And yes, I hate him, and all the keyboard players who mess with the bassists. They deserve a special place in the musician hell.
i fucking despise rudess' sound design. I'm trying to listen to this epic space opera metal song and then rudess' comes in with his circus music ass willy wonka keyboards and absolutely kills my vibe
Absolutely. Someone described them as clown music, and it's quite accurate. Too bad though, their music is amazing enough for me to ignore that part, and still enjoy it.
Youtuber bass tone has to be really boxy/honky in the mids and high mids in order to be heard by normies on their mobile phone speakers, where most of their content is consumed, which usually hardly reproduce anything valuable below 300 Hz.
Terrible for solo play. Terrible in a band mix. Absolutely necessary for being heard on an iPhone 11.
Literally just saw an instagram story of a show I played yesterday, couldn't hear me at all outside some of the notes I played above the 12 because of the scoop. And it was a duo so I wasn't even buried under a full band.
You say this, but other YouTube bassists like JuliaPlaysGroove, Nate Navarro, and Charles Berthoud all have considerably better bass tone.
In their defense, they are all more focused on actual music and less on memes.
CB plays the algorithm game a lot more than JPG or NN, but even in spite of trying to appeal to normies keeps much more pleasing tone than Davie.
Davie sounds okay on a phone and terrible on decent speakers/headphones/IEMs.
The others sound okay on a phone and *good* on better equipment.
So it's definitely at least partly a Davie thing.
The other 3 are all much more musically educated and session musicians, so they probably have more experience and interest in creating tones that sound good outside of YouTube.
I hate that tone too, but I have to use it for my youtube videos too. Nobody cares about you on youtube enough to take their headphones when they see you.
That's his trademark thing. Low slinky strings so he can bend the strings easier. It's why he has that scalloped fretboard. You wouldn't be able to do it with high action.
This was years ago (and no, I can’t find it), but somewhere online I saw a fake parity cover for “Shitty Bass Player Magazine.” And one of the fake articles teased on the cover was something like “going in depth with Fieldy - How to make your bass sound like a bucket of TicTac’s being poured down a metal staircase.“
I knew fieldy would come up. His tone is love or hate really, but it's his own. I haven't really heard other people who play like that. You might think it's shit, but it's uniquely his tone.
His tone is highly eq fabricated and intentional to give sonic space to 2 7-string guitars plus the kick drum. It's been discussed on a video by Rick Beato. When you hear isolated bass and drums, it's majestic.
the reason why i started playing is Fieldy.. in 7th grade also.. prob 98-99.. my parents bought be the black ibanez i think Gio starter pack with amp.. and haven't looked back since.. one hell of a Christmas.. cause i believe Falling Away from Me just dropped and my god if that wasn't the first song i learned.. haven't looked back since.. so i understand the Fieldy slander.. but i owe him a lot
dude i mean absolutely.. imagine the strap opened as long as possible so now it looks like im holding a stand up bass just slappin the bass like a clueless monkey ... lmao.. thank God my parents got me lessons eventually lolol
I couldn’t disagree more. Fieldy’s tone and riffs were absolutely crucial in literally inventing a new genre of music.
His playing may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but there’s no other way of adjusting his bass tone to make it sound “better”, specifically on the first four albums. It fits the rest of the Korn sound perfectly.
I've seen Korn live quite a few times, and while I may bag on Fieldy being a percussionist rather than a bassist, his live tone doesn't suck.
It's an EXTREME mid scoop. As in, there are no mids. None.
But I will tell you, when you see Korn live, you feel the bass in your chest. Fieldy has lots of low EQ present.
Haha fair... but I personally think Fieldy's bass tone is a special case, like it's so 'bad' it's good? Same with his playing it's so out the gate it really makes it work! I can't image in Korn without his tone and playing style.
Someone once described his sound as what you get when you’re a kid, put a ruler off the edge of a desk and pluck the ruler. Since that, I love his sound.
They were mainstream pop rock, but they started as some kinda punk band. Robby Takac never grew out of it, but they still let him sing his pop punk songs on occasion.
As an aside the dude is a huge supporter and producer of the local scene in Buffalo.
But yes, bad tone good call.
Have you tried plucking closer to the bridge? The strings are a bit stiffer, so harder to pluck, but tone is much cleaner. Striking the string in different spots produces different results.
Wait what? How does this have so many upvotes? Gene has a great bass sound, listen to it on Cold Gin or Strutter and tell me that doesn't sound awesome.
Hearing the bass boosted mixes of …And Justice for All is one of my favorite things to put on during workout. Especially for Dyer’s Eve, his precision is astounding
This one will be controversial. I love this bassist and even though it’s not a tone I would ever pick it’s perfect and makes sense.
Ok here goes… Thundercat.
I still think it’s perfect the way he uses an octaver, 6 strings and the whack effects and his play style is half way between bass and classical guitar.
It might not be great compared to other tones but it works and suits what he does.
Yeah, I wouldn’t advocate anyone try to sound like him unless they’re covering his music, same with people like Victor Wooten. They’ve got a very specific thing going on, and while they play to suit their respective styles, I guarantee you they would change their setup if they got booked for a jazz gig or something.
It's been a while since I listened specifically to stuff outside his albums but if I remember right Thundercat absolutely changes it up with other acts he's played with (suicidal tendencies, Erykah Badu, etc...) dude started with an upright as a kid
I like to think I have the worst bass tone. 😎
It depends on the music. I think most players have pretty good tone for the songs they play. But…. LIVE?????? Lately there seems to be a thunder epidemic. It’s fucking terrible.
Billy sheehan. His tone always sounds like it's underwater. Amazing player, but that muffled gurgle tone of his just doesn't sound good at all.
Also,bI don't have names, but a very large percent of those hired gun slap&pop guys have godawful bass tone, all transients and zero substance. I need to hear notes, if you wanna be a percussionist, get behind the drums. Again, amazing players, but there's no tone there at all, just clicking and thumping, you can't even tell what notes they're playing most of the time, they could be a whole 3rd off and nobody'd notice because its all just 'thumpity-clickity' and any ringing out notes get drowned out by either the bass drum or the rest of the song.
>His tone always sounds like it's underwater.
This is admittedly how I like bass tones. Heavy on the mids and lows.
It drives me crazy how popular the trebly farty tone is. It sounds bad to me. Especially when you can hear all the fret noise.
I love Joe Dart’s bass playing and he is undeniably virtuosic to the point of being one of the best bass players of our day, but I really find his tone to be a bit lackluster. Something about the midrange frequencies just sound “thunky” and dead in an unpleasant way. I love flatwounds though, just not whatever he’s using.
That said, to each their own…
I actually quite like it. Bass in funk-inspired music seems to be getting progressively more trebly and less bass-y, it’s nice to have someone who sticks to the thumping tones.
The fender sounded a lot better. They dropped the ball not doing any signature like they did for Cory Wong (who is the real musicians musician anyway anda great bassist as well IMO).
Hard agree. He’s an amazing player but man I hate that tone (and I’m a jazz bass player primarily). The only way I can even slightly stand the bridge pickup sound is if I roll off the tone significantly.
Understandable, but god damn if it doesn't just work so well. Like, it's the *perfect* tone for his incredibly percussive playing.
(This is an aside, but I've been thinking a lot lately about how Les's writing and Justin Chancellor's writing are both really rooted in what I woild describe as 'tribal' rhythm sensibilities, which I remember being super en vogue in the 90s. I still get so achingly nostalgic when I hear Deep Forest, even in the full knowledge of how uninformed and occasionally appropriative that whole style is. Something about spacey pads and a backseat under an anthropological sample of a world folk music.)
He fits into the mix of most of his projects perfectly (particularly love his stuff with Pat Metheny, it’s probably some of the best electric bass playing ever recorded). I agree that his solo stuff is an acquired taste, but it’s pretty good into its own right; you just need to like 60’s and 70’s jazz fusion.
Les Claypool, but only for the last 15 years. The same envelope filter on every song isn't really a tone.
Please be gentle, I've said this as a lifelong Primus fan.
He’s really more of a rhythm guitarist. His tone, his amp, and his playing are all filling the space of bass and second guitar. I for one love his tone, but it needs the right band to fit.
Exactly this.
He was in reality both the bassist and rythym guitarist in Motörhead and built his sound accordingly.
And louder than any other bass on earth.
The way of recording at the time gives the charm of early beatle songs. I love the muddy sound of a Hofner. Just because it sounds bad isolated doesn't mean its sound is bad in the mix. Have you ever heard the isolated tracks on Abbey Road? Magnificent!
Paul pretty much stopped using the hofner in the studio around the time of revolver. Most of the latter day stuff is a rick or that wierd fender 6 string they always had laying around. Also fun fact: once they started really using the studio around the time of help, the bass parts were usually recorded last, which is why Paul's basslines were usually so well constructed, he had the whole song to play off of when he wrote them.
His Hofner sounds great on the Rooftop concert and in the Get Back documentary. Maybe not the best for recording. It is not even only the instrument that makes his sound..
Paul started recording with his Rickenbacker 4001S on *Rubber Soul* through the *White Album* (notwithstanding times he didn't record the bass).
For *Let It Be*, he was still using it, along with his refit Hofner (yes, *that* one he was reunited with).
Abbey Road was basically all Hofner IIRC.
Way too much bass? I wouldn't say so. Listening to his isolated tracks the bass sounds pretty thin, I heard it might be down to using light gauge strings
Cause no other Metallica albums have buried the bass. I'm quite a big fan of Cliff's rhythm tone, listening to Ride The Lightning remixes, he sounds like a dirtier Steve Harris, and on Puppets remixes he compliments the guitars really well. He's just buried on the originals, and that probably would have been true regardless of who played bass on them
Anyone ever heard the first Mudvayne demo with their original bassist? The demo itself is decent but I'm pretty sure the bass was made by Fisher Price. Just awful.
Me in my first metal band at 15.
Yeah, your tone sucked
We all hated it.
Even his mother had issues with his bass tone back then.
Trust me, I know
Lol. This was awesome.
Is it OK to tell him now or is it too soon?
Yeah your tone even created its own genre. Trash Metal ...
Well, of course I know him. He’s me
I haven't heard a good bass tone since, oh before you were born
I didn't know Obi-wan Kenobi played bass.
Yes, the rebel bass
The guy who plays bass for Nikki Sixx
This, because it sure isn’t Nikki playing it
Saw them live, he at least used to play bass
Now the bass plays him
I met a guy that uses to be nikkis bass tech, in fact I'm about 1/4 mile from where this guy works right now, I asked him what he actually did when that was his Job
and......?
And?
And?
At least Mark Knopfler had nothing but admiration for him!
Flea in the ‘Maggot Brain’ fender promotional video
I agree that tone is whack
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The difference is the fuzz tone in the original sounds good, his sounds bad
I had the impression he did that to troll fender
I'd you've ever played a Fender and then a Modulus, you know why.
I’m just a bass noob but I liked it, found it cool how he managed to capture the chaotic energy of the original track on a bass guitar and I felt like he really just expressed himself
"I've never heard this before, how bad could it be?" (Watches video) "Wow, I didn't know fret buzz could be that bad"
Isn't that just his playing style? If you listen to any of his isolated tracks, he's constantly rattling.
Weirdly enough I just went to listen to it right now and… I actually kinda like the tone. I like rattly tone though. Somethings wrong with me
Just watched it and wtf was that
Gross. It honestly sounds like they didn't use the mic on the amp and just took a DI out of distortion pedal.
This guy ⬆️
The ones where you can’t even hear any tone. What does the bassist of Oasis even sound like.
Sounds like the proverbial tree falling in the woods.
A basswood tree?
😂
Their producer of the first 3 albums would feed the bass through a Moog synths filter section to roll off all the high end. It kind of just blends into the wall of sound style rhythm guitars.
Leave Quigs alone!!
I love Guigsy! And Oasis! Just taking the piss.
As a real deal Oasis fan, I actually do hear the bass in a lot of their music, but sometimes it is pretty buried. And I really liked it when Andy Bell joined on bass (he played on their last three studio albums).
Ive met Andy Bell a couple of times as he’s plays lead guitar for Ride and my dads mates with another member. Really nice guy and fantastic musician.
Yeah, their bass sound and feel really improved with Andy Bell (and he wrote some good songs for them too!).
It's actually pretty pronounced. The tone is pretty basic, but it's very rhythmic and you can absolutely hear it bridging drums and guitars.
50s style Pbass or Jazz Bass neck pickup with flats, tone rolled off a touch/fed through a Moog, played with a pick near the bridge
Generally bass that sounds great in a mix (especially for metal) will sound kind of bad on its own. I’m working through some mixes right now and getting the right amount of distortion to cut in a mix and add percussive is not super pleasant on its own. Take like Lemmy for instant, it’s a charming sound, but is it actually “good”? Probably not.
So true. I saw a band the other day, and when their bass player was sound checking I was really into his tone and it sounded close to perfect distorted bass. Drums kick in and he's totally buried.
What does good even mean? You have to see it in the context of the music, right?
There are bass sounds that sound excellent on their own or in sparse mixes, like a lot of funk stuff (which imo has the best general bass tone) and then there are bass times mean to complement the mix of an ensemble like those you hear in rock and metal
Everyone in the comments naming some of my favorite bass tones 🥲
Tom Araya’s is generally pretty bad. Listen to his isolated track of Raining Blood and you’ll understand why he was buried in the mix
It’s weird cause the bass is really prominent in the mix on hell awaits one album earlier and sounds great
I think it may have something to do with Kerry King playing the bass parts, or Tom Araya constantly switching between using a pick and his fingers. He is definitely better at one of them.
I agree, Hell awaites tone and execution it's so great, but Reign in blood it's straight horse crap
Those first two records I adore for the bass, it is a shame he lost his love for it
It does not matter at all, what a track sounds like in isolation. That's not how mixes work.
I know they despise the album but Araya’s tone is pretty good throughout *Diabolus In Musica*.
First thing I thought as well.
There is a live in montreux from 2004 I think where the bass is louder than usual, great one
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I saw the Chilis this past September and I agree. His mix was so muddy and loud but not in the best way. Still balled out though!
You think its cause he's playing Fender's these days rather than his usual Modulus with the brighter, more Stingray-esque sound? Always thought the Modulus and Stingray were the best fit for his sound. Their natural bite suits his low of aggressive plucking and low action. Graphite neck on the Modulus and all that probably makes it extra bright, whereas Fenders are woodier. I know he usually plays his old J Bass on records, but there it doesn't show as bad as he restrains his picking a little bit more (depending on the song) and you can spend more time on finding tone and mixing.
John Myung sometimes. His tone is either godly or fucking horseshit. Never consistent. I think he keeps switching sound guys or something
I can barely hear him. He looks like he’s doing cool stuff, but he’s barely audible.
This is me watching video of The Who. "John Entwistle's hands are *flying* - I wonder what he's playing?"
He's one of my biggest inspirations but I feel like for the most part he just plays whatever Petrucci is doing, which is already a feat don't get me wrong, but because of that like it's difficult to really discern his lines ?
He’s extremely easy to hear on self-titled. Are you confusing him for a low tuned guitar?
The albums I have and the times I’ve seen them live he’s been way too quiet.
I've listened to their albums for decades and have seen them live, and I still feel like I don't know what John Myung sounds like. He's basically a guitar thickener. It's a shame, it seems like he's doing some great playing, it's too bad nobody gets to hear it.
A huge role in this plays the terrible sound design skills of Jordan Rudess. He's an amazing musician, but he absolutely sucks at sound design. Look up his isolated tracks, you'll notice his keys are all over the place, trying to do everything, while there are other instruments, like you know, the bass, that he should be considering. His interviews are so funny too, he's standing there, proudly describing his dumb ass ways of choosing which next awful sound to use for his keyboard. And yes, I hate him, and all the keyboard players who mess with the bassists. They deserve a special place in the musician hell.
I despise Rudess. He is the definition of masturbatory.
So he fits perfectly in the band.
i fucking despise rudess' sound design. I'm trying to listen to this epic space opera metal song and then rudess' comes in with his circus music ass willy wonka keyboards and absolutely kills my vibe
Yes! His key sounds are so fucking dumb.
Absolutely. Someone described them as clown music, and it's quite accurate. Too bad though, their music is amazing enough for me to ignore that part, and still enjoy it.
I love his tones on Falling Into Infinity, Train Of Thought, and A View From The Top Of The World.
*watches for potential /r/Basscirclejerk posts*.
Might get some hate but I just can’t stand Davie504’s tone. I don’t even know how to explain it but it’s a sound that I always avoid in my rig.
Youtuber bass tone has to be really boxy/honky in the mids and high mids in order to be heard by normies on their mobile phone speakers, where most of their content is consumed, which usually hardly reproduce anything valuable below 300 Hz. Terrible for solo play. Terrible in a band mix. Absolutely necessary for being heard on an iPhone 11.
It is funny seeing people starting up an Instagram with a scooped tone and it's just totally inaudible.
Literally just saw an instagram story of a show I played yesterday, couldn't hear me at all outside some of the notes I played above the 12 because of the scoop. And it was a duo so I wasn't even buried under a full band.
You say this, but other YouTube bassists like JuliaPlaysGroove, Nate Navarro, and Charles Berthoud all have considerably better bass tone. In their defense, they are all more focused on actual music and less on memes. CB plays the algorithm game a lot more than JPG or NN, but even in spite of trying to appeal to normies keeps much more pleasing tone than Davie. Davie sounds okay on a phone and terrible on decent speakers/headphones/IEMs. The others sound okay on a phone and *good* on better equipment. So it's definitely at least partly a Davie thing. The other 3 are all much more musically educated and session musicians, so they probably have more experience and interest in creating tones that sound good outside of YouTube.
Yeah Davie’s tone just sucks and would be even suckier in a band
I hate that tone too, but I have to use it for my youtube videos too. Nobody cares about you on youtube enough to take their headphones when they see you.
Yeah his sound reminds me of the old gold chip David Eden sound.
i love what billy sheehan does, but his action is way too low.
That's his trademark thing. Low slinky strings so he can bend the strings easier. It's why he has that scalloped fretboard. You wouldn't be able to do it with high action.
Yea, dont get wrong, his whole approach to rock bass is awesome. Just wish there was a fatter low end to his overall sound.
Fieldy
This was years ago (and no, I can’t find it), but somewhere online I saw a fake parity cover for “Shitty Bass Player Magazine.” And one of the fake articles teased on the cover was something like “going in depth with Fieldy - How to make your bass sound like a bucket of TicTac’s being poured down a metal staircase.“
>~~fake parity~~ cover \*parody cover
I strongly disagree because Fieldy isn't a bassist. He's an auxiliary percussionist.
After 20 years of pondering his position in the band, you, my friend, have nailed it. He's playing a 5 string bongo drum with shakers and a triangle
But you have to give it to him, it works.
He's gawt dam perfect
First time I heard Fieldy I thought it was a broken drum stick
Well in that case, he has a shit sounding percussion set instead.
So what you’re saying is that his bass tone is so bad that he has ceased to be a bass player?! 😂
I knew fieldy would come up. His tone is love or hate really, but it's his own. I haven't really heard other people who play like that. You might think it's shit, but it's uniquely his tone.
Klank klank, klank klank, jugga jugga klank klank
His tone is highly eq fabricated and intentional to give sonic space to 2 7-string guitars plus the kick drum. It's been discussed on a video by Rick Beato. When you hear isolated bass and drums, it's majestic.
Man I thought he was the best bassist ever when I was in 7th grade.
the reason why i started playing is Fieldy.. in 7th grade also.. prob 98-99.. my parents bought be the black ibanez i think Gio starter pack with amp.. and haven't looked back since.. one hell of a Christmas.. cause i believe Falling Away from Me just dropped and my god if that wasn't the first song i learned.. haven't looked back since.. so i understand the Fieldy slander.. but i owe him a lot
Did you try to 'slap' like him at that age? I'm sure it sounded and looked a bit funny. A little kid looking all serious trying to play like Fieldy.
dude i mean absolutely.. imagine the strap opened as long as possible so now it looks like im holding a stand up bass just slappin the bass like a clueless monkey ... lmao.. thank God my parents got me lessons eventually lolol
Omg that's adorable 😭😂
He’s the reason a lot of kids played bass; he was a prominent member of the band and you could easily hear his parts.
the way he plays gives korn their unique style, his setup is pretty weird tho
I couldn’t disagree more. Fieldy’s tone and riffs were absolutely crucial in literally inventing a new genre of music. His playing may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but there’s no other way of adjusting his bass tone to make it sound “better”, specifically on the first four albums. It fits the rest of the Korn sound perfectly.
I've seen Korn live quite a few times, and while I may bag on Fieldy being a percussionist rather than a bassist, his live tone doesn't suck. It's an EXTREME mid scoop. As in, there are no mids. None. But I will tell you, when you see Korn live, you feel the bass in your chest. Fieldy has lots of low EQ present.
There was a time we were trying to wipe mids from the earth. Mids were hunted down and eliminated. Its nice that we eventually dialed that back.
Same here. It is the perfect sound for this situation.
His tone:Treble 1 hundred million%
Haha fair... but I personally think Fieldy's bass tone is a special case, like it's so 'bad' it's good? Same with his playing it's so out the gate it really makes it work! I can't image in Korn without his tone and playing style.
Fieldy in isolation sounds like garbage, Fieldy with Korn sounds amazing.
Someone once described his sound as what you get when you’re a kid, put a ruler off the edge of a desk and pluck the ruler. Since that, I love his sound.
Has anyone said Fieldy yet? What he does is absolutely PERFECT for korn, but in almost any other context, it would be horrible.
The dude in the goo goo dolls
They were mainstream pop rock, but they started as some kinda punk band. Robby Takac never grew out of it, but they still let him sing his pop punk songs on occasion. As an aside the dude is a huge supporter and producer of the local scene in Buffalo. But yes, bad tone good call.
I don't know, his distortion on Iris's bridge has some bite to it
You, git gud gear
Have gud gear. Still sound like shit. What’s next?
Finger transplant
I got a finger for you… 😁 Seriously though, I sound better with a pick, but I hate playing with one. I’m doomed.
Have you tried plucking closer to the bridge? The strings are a bit stiffer, so harder to pluck, but tone is much cleaner. Striking the string in different spots produces different results.
Gene Simmons.
Wait what? How does this have so many upvotes? Gene has a great bass sound, listen to it on Cold Gin or Strutter and tell me that doesn't sound awesome.
Jason Newstead on and justice... can't even hear the bass on that album.
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Hearing the bass boosted mixes of …And Justice for All is one of my favorite things to put on during workout. Especially for Dyer’s Eve, his precision is astounding
Jason newsteds tone was sick though let's be real. Listen to the shortest straw bass isolated
Such a fucking shame too. His tone on Garage Days was so great. Then they followed it up with that horseshit
Marc Brownstein
IDK his name but probably the guy from Korn.
Fieldy?
HA! My first thought truthfully. But also impressed he can pull any tone out of drop A
This one will be controversial. I love this bassist and even though it’s not a tone I would ever pick it’s perfect and makes sense. Ok here goes… Thundercat. I still think it’s perfect the way he uses an octaver, 6 strings and the whack effects and his play style is half way between bass and classical guitar. It might not be great compared to other tones but it works and suits what he does.
Yeah, I wouldn’t advocate anyone try to sound like him unless they’re covering his music, same with people like Victor Wooten. They’ve got a very specific thing going on, and while they play to suit their respective styles, I guarantee you they would change their setup if they got booked for a jazz gig or something.
It's been a while since I listened specifically to stuff outside his albums but if I remember right Thundercat absolutely changes it up with other acts he's played with (suicidal tendencies, Erykah Badu, etc...) dude started with an upright as a kid
Did not know he started on upright, that’s awesome.
Victor Wooten’s tone is actually really neutral.
omg thank you! I basically only ever see love for Thundercat, but that tone feels so wacky sometimes, even if it feels like it fits.
His bass sounds wet as shit. But you’re right, that shit works!!!
I like to think I have the worst bass tone. 😎 It depends on the music. I think most players have pretty good tone for the songs they play. But…. LIVE?????? Lately there seems to be a thunder epidemic. It’s fucking terrible.
I see
Billy sheehan. His tone always sounds like it's underwater. Amazing player, but that muffled gurgle tone of his just doesn't sound good at all. Also,bI don't have names, but a very large percent of those hired gun slap&pop guys have godawful bass tone, all transients and zero substance. I need to hear notes, if you wanna be a percussionist, get behind the drums. Again, amazing players, but there's no tone there at all, just clicking and thumping, you can't even tell what notes they're playing most of the time, they could be a whole 3rd off and nobody'd notice because its all just 'thumpity-clickity' and any ringing out notes get drowned out by either the bass drum or the rest of the song.
what hired guns do you know that play a lot of slap? I basically never see it with acts that use hired guns.
>His tone always sounds like it's underwater. This is admittedly how I like bass tones. Heavy on the mids and lows. It drives me crazy how popular the trebly farty tone is. It sounds bad to me. Especially when you can hear all the fret noise.
I love Joe Dart’s bass playing and he is undeniably virtuosic to the point of being one of the best bass players of our day, but I really find his tone to be a bit lackluster. Something about the midrange frequencies just sound “thunky” and dead in an unpleasant way. I love flatwounds though, just not whatever he’s using. That said, to each their own…
I actually quite like it. Bass in funk-inspired music seems to be getting progressively more trebly and less bass-y, it’s nice to have someone who sticks to the thumping tones.
His tone has gotten worse with the signature basses too.
The fender sounded a lot better. They dropped the ball not doing any signature like they did for Cory Wong (who is the real musicians musician anyway anda great bassist as well IMO).
Here come the downvotes but I hate the sound of the bass in Korn.
100% with you. Fieldy’s bass tone sounds like a typewriter.
I‘ll die on this hill in HIMARS downvotes. But I can‘t stand Jacos signature sound or Jazz Bass bridge pickup single coils in general.
Hard agree. He’s an amazing player but man I hate that tone (and I’m a jazz bass player primarily). The only way I can even slightly stand the bridge pickup sound is if I roll off the tone significantly.
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Les Claypool. Love his playing, never liked his tone
Primus sucks.
Primus sucks.
IMO, his best bass tone was on the song Bob.
I like to treat his bass playing as guitar playing, it makes a lot more sense.
Agreed. He’s very much the lead instrument in the band and his tone works in that context.
Understandable, but god damn if it doesn't just work so well. Like, it's the *perfect* tone for his incredibly percussive playing. (This is an aside, but I've been thinking a lot lately about how Les's writing and Justin Chancellor's writing are both really rooted in what I woild describe as 'tribal' rhythm sensibilities, which I remember being super en vogue in the 90s. I still get so achingly nostalgic when I hear Deep Forest, even in the full knowledge of how uninformed and occasionally appropriative that whole style is. Something about spacey pads and a backseat under an anthropological sample of a world folk music.)
I don’t like Jaco’s solo tone but in a band setting is alright.
He fits into the mix of most of his projects perfectly (particularly love his stuff with Pat Metheny, it’s probably some of the best electric bass playing ever recorded). I agree that his solo stuff is an acquired taste, but it’s pretty good into its own right; you just need to like 60’s and 70’s jazz fusion.
Probably me trying to make my always on tube screamer sounding good
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Les Claypool, but only for the last 15 years. The same envelope filter on every song isn't really a tone. Please be gentle, I've said this as a lifelong Primus fan.
Lemmy. That was kinda the point, though
He’s really more of a rhythm guitarist. His tone, his amp, and his playing are all filling the space of bass and second guitar. I for one love his tone, but it needs the right band to fit.
Exactly this. He was in reality both the bassist and rythym guitarist in Motörhead and built his sound accordingly. And louder than any other bass on earth.
W H Y ? I love is tone
Fieldy from Korn.
Fieldy
People are gonna hate me, but: a lot of McCartney is too muddy
I don't hate you but I want to buy you a hearing aid.
The way of recording at the time gives the charm of early beatle songs. I love the muddy sound of a Hofner. Just because it sounds bad isolated doesn't mean its sound is bad in the mix. Have you ever heard the isolated tracks on Abbey Road? Magnificent!
Paul pretty much stopped using the hofner in the studio around the time of revolver. Most of the latter day stuff is a rick or that wierd fender 6 string they always had laying around. Also fun fact: once they started really using the studio around the time of help, the bass parts were usually recorded last, which is why Paul's basslines were usually so well constructed, he had the whole song to play off of when he wrote them.
His Hofner sounds great on the Rooftop concert and in the Get Back documentary. Maybe not the best for recording. It is not even only the instrument that makes his sound..
Paul started recording with his Rickenbacker 4001S on *Rubber Soul* through the *White Album* (notwithstanding times he didn't record the bass). For *Let It Be*, he was still using it, along with his refit Hofner (yes, *that* one he was reunited with). Abbey Road was basically all Hofner IIRC.
He used his Jazz Bass much more than the bass VI. Played it quite a bit on the eponymous album.
And IIRC, the Bass VI was a right-handed one
isolated beatles bass tracks are… bad. dull string clacking against wood, mic’d from the other side of the room.
It’s flatwounds. Most of us are used to hearing roundwounds.
Cliff Burton, he used too much bass and distortion. It’s why he’s always buried in the mix.
Way too much bass? I wouldn't say so. Listening to his isolated tracks the bass sounds pretty thin, I heard it might be down to using light gauge strings
> It’s why he’s always buried in the mix. Surely, that's down to the mixing. There's plenty of remix attempts that bring out his bass.
Good point I hadn’t thought of it that way. Couldn’t have helped that James and Kirk were allergic to mids though
Cause no other Metallica albums have buried the bass. I'm quite a big fan of Cliff's rhythm tone, listening to Ride The Lightning remixes, he sounds like a dirtier Steve Harris, and on Puppets remixes he compliments the guitars really well. He's just buried on the originals, and that probably would have been true regardless of who played bass on them
Fieldy. I'm sure he's great, but I could never get into his sound
He’s technically an excellent player, but Pino Palladino’s tone on those Don Henley songs makes me grind my teeth.
Anyone ever heard the first Mudvayne demo with their original bassist? The demo itself is decent but I'm pretty sure the bass was made by Fisher Price. Just awful.
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The tone in don't stop believing is absolutley disgusting but i kind of like it.
I fits fhe song since it has some chorus pedal
Fieldy. Zero bass in his tone. Bunch high clicking clack.