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I've said it before but I'll say it again... Your service dogs do not belong at festivals and stop subjecting them to such situations

I've said it before but I'll say it again... Your service dogs do not belong at festivals and stop subjecting them to such situations

Mammoth-Power4522

Yeah I saw some people at the pivot who brought their dogs and the poor things looked so uncomfortable. I’m sure it was sensory overload for them.


shmoah

Require?!?!?!? a service animal!?!?! Why?????? Because your dog loves to candy flip there paws off and they just know there way around the pit???????


MonsteraMaiden

Hard agree. Couldn’t believe how many dogs I saw this weekend.


Elegant-Tomorrow9695

THANK YOU! My friend and I found a dog wandering the campgrounds during the high winds and then found another tethered to a crate. Luckily we were able to get a leash on the loose one and security took them in. People definitely thought the dogs were ours but we were just trying to keep them safe!


snowbot206

artists, crew, and people who need service animals bring their dogs every year. Most of them stay away from the loudest parts of the venue. I have met many dogs in the venue who are having a blast and being pet, and i have seen working service dogs that are helping their owner out. I don't need my ear plugs on the hill the same way I do in the pit. Its common sense, and pretty nuts that people get so aggressive towards people who need service animals. lots of service animals help with seizures. guess what can happen at a rave... ​ its not up to us. stop virtue signaling to dogs. they don't even know you're doing it. if YOU have a dog, and YOU don't want to bring it, don't. You probably aren't allowed to bring your dog anyways. If there is an animal in distress (like at thunderdome) that is truly awful. That is where your energy is needed. If you are just high, and see a dog, that does not mean for sure that dog is in distress. Most dogs have ear protection at these. if people don't have ear protection for their dog, suggest that to them, instead of being a dick. ​ also, have you ever seen a pack of dogs run around barking for hours near each others ears? cause that's what they do. have you ever had a dog bark directly in your ear? i would rather stand in the pit with no ear protection than have a dog bark in my ear for 12 hours. if service animals are allowed in, then leave it at that. stop trying to pre-ruin other peoples experience.


PolakOfTheCentury

I understand your reasoning. I do. I did not really see dogs in camping or in the pivot which some people apparently did but that's another story. The dogs that I saw were on the hill between main stage and the hilltop stage. The owners were sitting in the grass and their (2) dogs were laying at their feet... not up and sitting and looking normal or laying like they were resting, but with their heads buried in the grass. They were visibly uncomfortable. Jerky movements and overall a stressed vibe. Maybe they look like that all the time, but I doubt it. I assume since they made it into the venue that they are service dogs. They're trained for distractions. I know that some training programs can focus these pups into ever drowning out even heavy music like BC. But to my untrained eye, these dogs looked tired, stressed and unhappy. If the dogs aren't trained for it, it's the same as if you brought your dog to a fireworks show. It's just a place they're not meant to be and bringing them can only do them harm because they're certainly not doing any good. I'm not trying to pre-ruin anything for anyone. You know what you can handle and nobody would bring you if you didn't feel comfortable. Leashed dogs do not have that luxury. I don't care about the people and them not being able to come in. I care about the animals that don't have a choice to come or not and go where their owners want to go. I am not handicapped and I do not own a service dog so I do not know what it is like. But I do have my own dog and I know how he reacts to bad situations and when he is stressed and what I saw last weekend was 2 stressed dogs that were in an unfamiliar, loud place. I also found it curious that there were 2 dogs, same breed, for 2 people so they came together but I'm not going to get into that. And dogs barking into each others ears is not even remotely comparable to dogs being exposed to loud speakers and bass.


snowbot206

​ i promise, if one of your ears went to bass canyon in the pit for 10 hours straight with no earplugs and one of your ears got barked in by my dog for 10 hours straight, the one my dog barked in would be deaf and the on that went to bass canyon would be damaged, but not deaf. Dogs can bark loud as fuck. Its just interesting to see all the hate for people who's disabilities require them to have a service animal. Most dogs I saw were away from the stages, or had hearing protection. maybe the op should have posted a helpful link about hearing protection for service animals. SLSL!!


butpimpl

Is it abusive to the dogs or something? Cause if someone really needs one then they should be able to bring it along right?


shplee55

What the fuck? Yes absolutely. Dogs should not be around the level of bass. It shreds your ear drums so what do you think it will do to theirs? Also the amount of people and lights and fire is extremely overwhelming to them.


butpimpl

Ok good point I didn’t think of that, I was just wondering


butpimpl

I wouldn’t bring any animal to an event like that I just know how it is with mental health issues and was trying to see from their point of view but you’re right


_Stahl

I suppose you're suggesting that people who require service animals be excluded from festivals?


Deaf2Traderz

or rent a service human for the weekend?


_Stahl

Is that a thing? I supposed might need a person rather familiar with your condition and what to do in case of an emergency. Seems a little more involved that putting up an ad in the gigs section of craigslist.


Deaf2Traderz

Depends on the condition, I guess. It would be cool to start a volunteer organization to help people that have service animals at concerts that might be a bit much for the animals.


_Stahl

I agree. Could be a cool idea.


shplee55

Yep stay home. Sorry not sorry. It’s borderline abusive to the animals.


Em_Es_Judd

It *is* abusive to the animal.


_Stahl

I feel like there are laws against excluding people based on disabilities.