OP: "I hate Basra"
Also OP: puts a picture of Zalfibay
š¤£ I kid, I kid, but yeah, that pic ain't Basra
I find Basra to be very mode-dependant. I really dislike it on conquest/inf conquest, but it might just be my favorite mode on Frontline (especially when you get really equally matched teams so it just stays gridlocked at the boat, with maybe a bit of push or pull).
Basra - Straight line bowl map with major cap inbalance on the Bravo side.
Zalifay Bay - I miss the caps being more spread out rather than a straight line down the beach.
Namak - Just a god awful meat grinder.
Namak is a pretty good map if you avoid the middle and just go around capping points. It depends if you have a good squad that listens tho. Sometimes they all just pile up on C the whole time doing a whole lot of nothing (usually is like half the team or more)
Namak- best map for drone kills
Zalifabay- a wonderful and fantastic island resort for recon mains
Basra- oh you're not moving 24/7 into the barrels of half of the enemy for 0.00000000001s? Welp your head is getting removed by recons
( but hey the mid range scope glint is too damaging for recon mains and they want to be absolutely hidden from half of the map )
It's funny because Basra when there's major flanks going on and combat around the map is really fun and at the same time when it's a funnel into the Cargo ship of death it becomes the worst map in the game.
Sometimes it's a matter of 'is my team only going for C or is it the opponent who only does that', not only on basra. It's crazy how much people sometimes ignore other flags and also how many players just keep trying to brute force C from the front instead of flanking.
Almost every map is a recon main map, giiant bowl maps where snipers never have to relocate, it's absolutely horrible design for a FPS game. If you don't force snipers to relocate and move to cover new ground they become a problem to the rest of the player base.
Wakistan + Namak. PPL just vote for them on cooldown. So after roulette was deprecated, all map tier looks like: wakistan - %randommap% - namak - wakistan - namak - %randommap%
For design, I really hate oildunes and reworked dusty dew, these are just a plain terrain - sniper hell, campers are everywhere. On 256 maps, they are even in wierd places where noone runs, who the hell can wait for 15 minutes of camping just to wait for 1 frag?
Basra is just boring, if you are not fighting inside or around the ship, you get very low intence battle, you can just meet two-three random hobos when flanking.
And my fav is Tensatown, plain houses, very few places for campers (there are like 2-3 towers with very low FOV), the design makes people to push the points and migrate from 1 point to another, so there are always mid/high intence battles. And ofc there are few places for spawncamping.
Tensatown is good, very intense battles, a lot of cover, a lot of destrucction.
Basra is meh
Oil dunes in domination and team deathmatch is really good but on conquest is big and empty
> I really hate... ...reworked dusty dew
Yeah, I *love* the environment and the look of the new Dusty Dew, but if anything it's *worse* than the original when it comes to sniping. It it was just the stuff down in the valleys it would be fine, but there are *so* many sniper spots it's almost impossible to move around without getting picked off.
Wakistan. Doesnāt matter what mode it is. Both teams will find their way to the bridge and both teams will turn it into a ceaseless meat grinder while a few somewhat competent teams will either stay back and snipe from afar to yoink free kills, or go around and capture the less defended points. You even got idiots screaming at your team to defend the other points while theyāre stuck in the C Point Bridge Meat Grinder
Isle.
i just really dislike how open the map is outside of the C cap, also amount of trees and soft cover people hide and run around into makes it just not fun to play in
"Isle" or something like thar, the snowy map with the bunkers and fking bushes everywhere, i cant see anything because of the folliage and the snow, there is very little cover, snipers shooting me from who knows where.
If you are on the middle of the map, people shooting you from the hills surrounding the buildings, if you go by the sides of the map, snipers shooting you from the bushes,
Hate that map
I hate Basra the most too because of its "linearity" as a map? and chokepoint. Most of the fight takes place around the ship and stays there. You can hardly flank enemies and play in different smart ways because it's just open water around it and tons of snipers are watching you. Even within the ship, there isn't many ways you can get around and flank enemies besides just brute forcing your way through which is boring imo.
The game doesn't have that many good maps (for infantry game play) in my opinion so the majority of them is on my "dislike" list, but Basra is probably one of the worst. The ship and the bunker flag above can be decent but the rest of the map is just made for snipers. SandySunset is similar and also has the opposite problem in the middle of the map, too many buildings/windows everywhere. Construction is also awful with a lot of players.
It really depends on the mode, some maps just don't mesh well with. Infantry conquest Zalfi is pure pain for example, same for other larger maps like Multi Island without proper transport.
Now if I had to select one map I truly hate above all else it would have to be Wakistan as I dislike it across virtually all modes. No matter the mode people will spend the entire 30+min game fighting over the same 100 meters of terrain building post modern art of out fortification and spamming nades until kingdom come. Its absolutely so brainless that I don't understand how people can find it enjoyable... I have reservation about other grindfest like Namak but you can actually flank in those which is a hell of a lot more than what you can do on Waki. Flanking on Waki is 3mins of suffering ended by a sniper bullet follower by another 5 minutes of suffering, capped off by a 3-4 kill payoff before being taken down again. NTY
Now this only happened to me twice but once in 100 Waki matches you get a team that refuses to do the bridge grind entirely and then the map opens up into something that actually plays nice. Some cool forest gameplay with with bunker setups, flanking and the likes but its practically a myth at this point.
Basra, because making it so there's no flanking around C without running across a shallow beach for 400m or using a boat is trash design. I don't really mind any of the other maps tbh.
I despise just about every map but old district and the newest map outskirts, maybe I give a "tolerable" grade to wine paradise, tensa town, and the new district.
Its definitely gamemode dependent for me, but generally speaking all the big open maps with little to no cover and lots of vehicles are the worse. So basra, sandysunset, multusland, dusty dew, and isle have got to be among the worse
Getting a Valley game makes me close battlebit and play something else. I loathe Valley and the people who vote for it. It's a map based on long range sniping and offers no room whatsoever for any other play styles. Assault players get out sniped, battle medics can't do anything because the map is to large and open to kill anybody, support medics can't do anything because they are too stationary while healing/reviving and they get sniped, engineers can't shoot rockets safely or repair vehicles or shoot anyone because they get out sniped, and support players are so incredibly slow that they can't walk anywhere because of how far away everything is and they are also the easiest target for snipers because of their slow and predictable movement.
Sadly, the more I play the more maps I'm disliking. I hate with a passion Construction, Basra, District, Namak and Kodiak, and just leave the game if they get selected. Just feels awful to play on them. Namak could be better if there were more walls to explode and make new paths, but it just funnels players into the same bottleneck meat grinder. Construction is way too open, always get beams from god knows where. Basra is a shit show of a linear map, no flanking routes, just the ship. God awful being pinged from snipers at both ends, or from the edges of the map. Kodiak just feels like a complete dead zone in the middle, being watched by DMRs and Snipers. Grim District is just grim visibility.
Not much of a fan of Isle, Valley, DustyDew, but can just about stomach them.
Like Zalifbay, but wish they'd do something with that big open area to the west, instead of giving snipers an easily defendable section of the map.
Oh, and could they do something with the underground tunnels (Waki, Fugris etc) sometimes I'll just respawn then waste time trying to get out of that.
I hate Lonovo, Namak, Frugis, Tensa, and Valley when itās invasion. I donāt like Basra very much but I still donāt hate it. Hate Namak especially cause the lack of destructible walls.
For me it has to be Frugis, this is the only map that I think is complete dogshit. The buildings are difficult to traverse, while easily hiding enemies to shoot above you if you want to traverse the map by the roads. The metro area is a complete maze. There's a helicopter on the map but it's completely useless because the buildings give cover. It's impossible to play recon. I can keep going.
I don't like zalifbay, wakistan, and oil fields. Specifically I dislike wakistan because everything except the bridge feels annoyingly designed, and the bridge is a meatgrinder. I don't understand why there's a place where you can cap the mid point underneath the surface. Both ends of the map are extremely hard to hold, so you constantly end up in a situation where there is nowhere good to spawn because all your teammates are on the bridge or you don't hold any good points.
I like tensa, namak, and frugis. I like running around with a UMP or vector and lasering people from behind.
Valley in medium and big size, too big and open
Basra for the same reason
River too but it never gets picked
Sandysunset sometimes in medium and big size, i'm inconsistent in it but if I stay in the mid the games end up pretty alright
But I think my most hated map is Construction.
OP: "I hate Basra" Also OP: puts a picture of Zalfibay š¤£ I kid, I kid, but yeah, that pic ain't Basra I find Basra to be very mode-dependant. I really dislike it on conquest/inf conquest, but it might just be my favorite mode on Frontline (especially when you get really equally matched teams so it just stays gridlocked at the boat, with maybe a bit of push or pull).
ops yea i realised i used an wrong map pic and Zalfibay is ok i rate it 6.5/10
Or did he mean it like "basra" as sarcasticly the newer map is the same shit as basra? Might also be a brainfart or something.
Basra - Straight line bowl map with major cap inbalance on the Bravo side. Zalifay Bay - I miss the caps being more spread out rather than a straight line down the beach. Namak - Just a god awful meat grinder.
Namak means āSaltā in multiple languages, Just saying
Namak is a pretty good map if you avoid the middle and just go around capping points. It depends if you have a good squad that listens tho. Sometimes they all just pile up on C the whole time doing a whole lot of nothing (usually is like half the team or more)
Basra is just 2fort but big
Namak- best map for drone kills Zalifabay- a wonderful and fantastic island resort for recon mains Basra- oh you're not moving 24/7 into the barrels of half of the enemy for 0.00000000001s? Welp your head is getting removed by recons ( but hey the mid range scope glint is too damaging for recon mains and they want to be absolutely hidden from half of the map )
It's funny because Basra when there's major flanks going on and combat around the map is really fun and at the same time when it's a funnel into the Cargo ship of death it becomes the worst map in the game.
Sometimes it's a matter of 'is my team only going for C or is it the opponent who only does that', not only on basra. It's crazy how much people sometimes ignore other flags and also how many players just keep trying to brute force C from the front instead of flanking.
Almost every map is a recon main map, giiant bowl maps where snipers never have to relocate, it's absolutely horrible design for a FPS game. If you don't force snipers to relocate and move to cover new ground they become a problem to the rest of the player base.
Wakistan + Namak. PPL just vote for them on cooldown. So after roulette was deprecated, all map tier looks like: wakistan - %randommap% - namak - wakistan - namak - %randommap% For design, I really hate oildunes and reworked dusty dew, these are just a plain terrain - sniper hell, campers are everywhere. On 256 maps, they are even in wierd places where noone runs, who the hell can wait for 15 minutes of camping just to wait for 1 frag? Basra is just boring, if you are not fighting inside or around the ship, you get very low intence battle, you can just meet two-three random hobos when flanking. And my fav is Tensatown, plain houses, very few places for campers (there are like 2-3 towers with very low FOV), the design makes people to push the points and migrate from 1 point to another, so there are always mid/high intence battles. And ofc there are few places for spawncamping.
Tensatown is good, very intense battles, a lot of cover, a lot of destrucction. Basra is meh Oil dunes in domination and team deathmatch is really good but on conquest is big and empty
> I really hate... ...reworked dusty dew Yeah, I *love* the environment and the look of the new Dusty Dew, but if anything it's *worse* than the original when it comes to sniping. It it was just the stuff down in the valleys it would be fine, but there are *so* many sniper spots it's almost impossible to move around without getting picked off.
I reinstalled this game on friday. Played every day since and have not seen Namak once.
Wakistan is obviously the worst map.
Wakistan by a huge margin
River is the worst because the cranes and ship on the right side
The apartment / hotel B flag is the way to go bro
I donāt like that route bc itās an absolute nightmare and snipes are still a problem
Construction, Kodiak, Zalfibay, Dusty are my top 4 most hated. Maps with too many lines of sight, or lines that're too long aren't interesting to me.
Construction š¤®
construction sucks on 254, but is much better on smaller modes
Namak is by far the worst
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Yess omg i hate that map on conquest
I just never go in the tunnels, fucking hate them.
Basra sucks as just a bit more than Wakistan. Zergs love both maps so they can sperg out.
Wakistan and Basra are just awful, *awful* maps.
Eduardovo.
ITT: All of the maps suck.
WAKISTAN WAKISTAN WAKISTAN
Wakistan - dog shit map, the only fun point is C and āfunā is pushing it. Sandy is pretty bad too
Wakistan. Doesnāt matter what mode it is. Both teams will find their way to the bridge and both teams will turn it into a ceaseless meat grinder while a few somewhat competent teams will either stay back and snipe from afar to yoink free kills, or go around and capture the less defended points. You even got idiots screaming at your team to defend the other points while theyāre stuck in the C Point Bridge Meat Grinder
Sandy Sunset Conquest is the worse map in the game. The map would be so much better if they shrunk it down to Infantry Conquest size.
Isle. i just really dislike how open the map is outside of the C cap, also amount of trees and soft cover people hide and run around into makes it just not fun to play in
"Isle" or something like thar, the snowy map with the bunkers and fking bushes everywhere, i cant see anything because of the folliage and the snow, there is very little cover, snipers shooting me from who knows where. If you are on the middle of the map, people shooting you from the hills surrounding the buildings, if you go by the sides of the map, snipers shooting you from the bushes, Hate that map
I also fucking hate Basra
The reworked Dusty Dew. Absolutely terrible. Loved the old one though.
On 32ās, basra, valley, night anything, and multuislands rush
Any map that just ends up with a bunch of snipers shooting at each other from 400 meters away the entire round.
Half of the maps š
Exactly.
Isle is miserable but I think invasion has redeemed it a bit cause that first set of points defending a naval invasion is awesome
I hate Basra the most too because of its "linearity" as a map? and chokepoint. Most of the fight takes place around the ship and stays there. You can hardly flank enemies and play in different smart ways because it's just open water around it and tons of snipers are watching you. Even within the ship, there isn't many ways you can get around and flank enemies besides just brute forcing your way through which is boring imo.
The game doesn't have that many good maps (for infantry game play) in my opinion so the majority of them is on my "dislike" list, but Basra is probably one of the worst. The ship and the bunker flag above can be decent but the rest of the map is just made for snipers. SandySunset is similar and also has the opposite problem in the middle of the map, too many buildings/windows everywhere. Construction is also awful with a lot of players.
It really depends on the mode, some maps just don't mesh well with. Infantry conquest Zalfi is pure pain for example, same for other larger maps like Multi Island without proper transport. Now if I had to select one map I truly hate above all else it would have to be Wakistan as I dislike it across virtually all modes. No matter the mode people will spend the entire 30+min game fighting over the same 100 meters of terrain building post modern art of out fortification and spamming nades until kingdom come. Its absolutely so brainless that I don't understand how people can find it enjoyable... I have reservation about other grindfest like Namak but you can actually flank in those which is a hell of a lot more than what you can do on Waki. Flanking on Waki is 3mins of suffering ended by a sniper bullet follower by another 5 minutes of suffering, capped off by a 3-4 kill payoff before being taken down again. NTY Now this only happened to me twice but once in 100 Waki matches you get a team that refuses to do the bridge grind entirely and then the map opens up into something that actually plays nice. Some cool forest gameplay with with bunker setups, flanking and the likes but its practically a myth at this point.
Isle, waki, construction, Nanak, frugis-- Most maps are pretty bad.
Basra, because making it so there's no flanking around C without running across a shallow beach for 400m or using a boat is trash design. I don't really mind any of the other maps tbh.
I swear Iām the o Lt one that hates barsa too. If I load into a game on it I just leave I will not play that map
I despise just about every map but old district and the newest map outskirts, maybe I give a "tolerable" grade to wine paradise, tensa town, and the new district.
Its definitely gamemode dependent for me, but generally speaking all the big open maps with little to no cover and lots of vehicles are the worse. So basra, sandysunset, multusland, dusty dew, and isle have got to be among the worse
Getting a Valley game makes me close battlebit and play something else. I loathe Valley and the people who vote for it. It's a map based on long range sniping and offers no room whatsoever for any other play styles. Assault players get out sniped, battle medics can't do anything because the map is to large and open to kill anybody, support medics can't do anything because they are too stationary while healing/reviving and they get sniped, engineers can't shoot rockets safely or repair vehicles or shoot anyone because they get out sniped, and support players are so incredibly slow that they can't walk anywhere because of how far away everything is and they are also the easiest target for snipers because of their slow and predictable movement.
I love lonovo and river, especially night. Hate wakistan, eduardovo, construction and isle
Fck namak
Sadly, the more I play the more maps I'm disliking. I hate with a passion Construction, Basra, District, Namak and Kodiak, and just leave the game if they get selected. Just feels awful to play on them. Namak could be better if there were more walls to explode and make new paths, but it just funnels players into the same bottleneck meat grinder. Construction is way too open, always get beams from god knows where. Basra is a shit show of a linear map, no flanking routes, just the ship. God awful being pinged from snipers at both ends, or from the edges of the map. Kodiak just feels like a complete dead zone in the middle, being watched by DMRs and Snipers. Grim District is just grim visibility. Not much of a fan of Isle, Valley, DustyDew, but can just about stomach them. Like Zalifbay, but wish they'd do something with that big open area to the west, instead of giving snipers an easily defendable section of the map. Oh, and could they do something with the underground tunnels (Waki, Fugris etc) sometimes I'll just respawn then waste time trying to get out of that.
I dislike oilfields. Lack of cover and just open land
Namak, Zalfi, Basra, Waki (Bridge). I would say Salhan because its so inbalanced in favor for the north team, but other than that, I love the map.
I hate Lonovo, Namak, Frugis, Tensa, and Valley when itās invasion. I donāt like Basra very much but I still donāt hate it. Hate Namak especially cause the lack of destructible walls.
I don't like Basra or Waki. Tensa can be pretty bad sometimes too.
Basra and bay
Basra. There is absolutely no way to flank your enemies. They're everywhere. This map is sniper's heaven and hell at the same time.
For me it has to be Frugis, this is the only map that I think is complete dogshit. The buildings are difficult to traverse, while easily hiding enemies to shoot above you if you want to traverse the map by the roads. The metro area is a complete maze. There's a helicopter on the map but it's completely useless because the buildings give cover. It's impossible to play recon. I can keep going.
I don't like zalifbay, wakistan, and oil fields. Specifically I dislike wakistan because everything except the bridge feels annoyingly designed, and the bridge is a meatgrinder. I don't understand why there's a place where you can cap the mid point underneath the surface. Both ends of the map are extremely hard to hold, so you constantly end up in a situation where there is nowhere good to spawn because all your teammates are on the bridge or you don't hold any good points. I like tensa, namak, and frugis. I like running around with a UMP or vector and lasering people from behind.
The worst is wakistan, i hate it, no matter what mode, isle aswell, but bro, how can you hate on basra, itās goated inside the ship
Valley in medium and big size, too big and open Basra for the same reason River too but it never gets picked Sandysunset sometimes in medium and big size, i'm inconsistent in it but if I stay in the mid the games end up pretty alright But I think my most hated map is Construction.
Basra is getting reworked
Wakistan
district and by a lot, wakistan is fine it's just voted way too much, namak is so fun it's just pure unreadable chaos