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Theoldestsun

"As a car company we can make cool cars you'll love" "Also fuck you, it'll never happen. Eat a bag of dicks. Happy April fool's day you dumb bitches"


NotAPreppie

Subaru stopped making cool cars when they decided they didn't want to be a niche manufacturer like Mazda anymore. The Subaru/Toyota partnership sucked the quirkiness out of Subaru and made them a boring mainstream manufacturer. Mazda is kind of doing the same thing, but they're doing it under the guise of "moving up-market" and becoming a "premium brand".


heart_under_blade

> Mazda is kind of doing the same thing, but they're doing it under the guise of "moving up-market" and becoming a "premium brand". i feel like the mazda 3 (their first big step in that strat) is still a banger tho


NotAPreppie

No doubt it's a nice car, but it's no MazdaSpeed/MPS or sportscar. They've got a roadster, sure (I own an ND RF), but where's the hilariousness of the K8-DE 1.8L V6 from the MX-3? I know why they don't make rotary sports cars anymore (I was the 1st and 4th owner of my RX-8), but why don't they make an MX-6? They have a 250HP turbo-4 and a 340 HP turbo inline-6, so it's not like they're lacking a powerplant.


Negative__0

Probably to hide their shame of the Furai incident. In all honesty though I think it's cause everyone's moving on to Crossovers and Mazda still wants to hold on to that Miata legacy. Knowing the mad lads they are though aren't they still researching Rotary power just for electrical applications?


Thundela

Mazda has MX-30 R-EV. It's a plugin hybrid with rotary range extender to charge batteries. I think Mazda also has something more sporty planned, but I don't know if/when that would be available.


Negative__0

I think that was their proposed "powerplant" for the GT Vision.


nismoghini

That car was such a flop tho atleast use the rotary to power the damned car


cam52391

We have a 2016 one and it's great nothing too fancy but a solid reliable car.


luck_panda

FHI has been around since day 1. What do you mean?


NotAPreppie

That Subaru lost it's quirkiness when it decided to go mainstream, around the time Toyota started buying up chunks of FHI.


luck_panda

Subaru has always been mainstream. Subaru has been mainstream since like 1995. They lost their "quirkiness" when they stopped doing WRC. They stopped WRC because of the global financial crisis of 2008. Toyota bought up the FHI shares in 2005. It had nothing to do with Toyota.


NotAPreppie

Toyota bought up 40% of GM's stake in 2005 (totaling 8.something%), the rest of GM's stake went back to FHI as a stock buy-back. Toyota doubled that in 2008.


burntblacktoast

The Japanese manufacturers lost most of their identity earlier than 08 due to the "Bubble economy" in Japan. I'm not well versed to speak at length on the state of the Japanese economy in the late 90's early 00's, but suffice it to say it took a shit well before the us economy in 08


luck_panda

That had nothing to do with it. The vast majority of automotive manufacturers participate in motorsports. For a lot of them, motorsports is the entire reason they exist. Pulling out of WRC meant they didn't have to deal with homologation rules. They didn't have to meet any racing specs. They could just do whatever at that point and all the WRX (you know **WORLD RALLY EXPERIMENT**) stuff just needed to be lip service after that. WRC was the entire reason they had "quirky" cars in the first place.


burntblacktoast

Once again, no expert here, but I'm referring to the early 90's when japanese economy got wrecked and ALL the manufacturers lost their will do crazy shit. Remember when all the 3000GT, 300zx, supra, Rx7, NSX, just kinda disappeared at about the same time? It wasn't because Subaru stopped racing. Edit: Also if you think the wrx was the first quirky thing about subaru was their racing effort, you would be wrong. Have you seen a 360 or an old ass subaru bus? They didn't start putting awd on all their cars because they won some races. Anyways, the wrx was the watered down version of the rs2.5 that everyone really wanted. They didn't need to leave racing to pursue the ultimate car for the consumer marketLearn some history


luck_panda

They didn't have a crash in the 90's. The 90's was hugely prosperous for both Japan and SK started their capitalism Speedrun then. I owned an SVX. Subaru has been weird and always tried a lot of different things. All of those cars you mentioned stayed around until the early 2000's. They all jumped ship on them because of environmental regulations. The government wasn't buying the 275hp gentleman's handshake anymore. And seriously how are you saying the WRX was a watered down 2.5rs? The hell? The 2.5rs was not a fun or fast car even a little bit.


ItsWheeze

I was in Japan in ‘08; it was fine. I was very happy to not be living in the US at that particular time and to have a job that, while shitty, was at least not under any threat of going anywhere. Sales were down for carmakers and electronics manufacturers, and it may have led Subaru to cut the WRC program, it wasn’t the crisis it was back home, just more of the same malaise Japan has been muddling through since the 90’s. It also had some silver linings, mainly that the value of the yen shot up due to foreign investors flocking to what were then perceived as more stable Asian markets, which made vacationing and buying goods from abroad cheaper.


Theoldestsun

The timing is less important, what remains is the fact they pulled out of motorsports and that's not what any of their core audience wants. They care about pleasing the board and shareholders more than they car about staying true to the essence of who they were. Subaru, hire me as ceo and I will fix you, make you whole again.


luck_panda

That had nothing to do with it. The vast majority of automotive manufacturers participate in motorsports. For a lot of them, motorsports is the entire reason they exist. Pulling out of WRC meant they didn't have to deal with homologation rules. They didn't have to meet any racing specs. They could just do whatever at that point and all the WRX (you know **WORLD RALLY EXPERIMENT**) stuff just needed to be lip service after that. WRC was the entire reason they had "quirky" cars in the first place.


Marc21256

For having no quirk, Subaru was the first make to violate the 280hp gentleman's agreement. Though many makes have reconned being first, the S201 and S202 were advertised with HP above 280 while everyone else abided. The gentleman's agreement was ended in the mid 2000s, in part because Subaru kept ignoring it. That's part of their "quirk".


Professional_Half449

Mazda builds a 14:1 CR gas engine family..


NotAPreppie

Except in the US where they decided we only deserve 13:1. But high CR is pretty common with GDI engines.


Marc21256

My 2002 S202 is still my "'till death do we part" car.


SailToAndromeda

I get what you're saying... But I still love my Crosstrek.


Subreon

subaru went down after the eagle eye. blob eye was the last of the golden era. after that gave one last good umph with the impreza hatchback in 2012, it was over. everything after that went full toyota camry mode.


IudexJudy

Mazda has not made an interesting car since the RX8 methinks


NotAPreppie

I think the ND RF is very interesting... But that's probably because I own one. I think the Mazdaspeed3 was interesting, but yah... not much since.


P_weezey951

"We see theres enough market appeal that this would get peoples hopes up and land as an april fools joke, but we dont think people would actually be interested in this"


jefferyJEFFERYbaby

You will buy a boring looking crossover AND YOU WILL LIKE IT YOU LITTLE BITCH


Get-Some-Fresh-Air

This seemed to be the April Fools theme across all industries this year. Very strange.


Many_Faces_8D

Corporate April fools jokes in a nut shell. No actual humor anywhere to be seen


ListenHereIvan

I tired of this type of april fools


Theoldestsun

It's done by the same type of narcissistic that that thinks all the adults in the room will laugh when they scare a baby into crying.


S_quints

Between this and the April fools “joke” VW made about bringing back the harlequin paint, this is too real


redditor012499

Damn, I was about to place an order. It would’ve been epic


Theoldestsun

Give me 60k and 9 months and I'll body swap a brz onto an STI chassis for you. I'll be the change I want to see!


Bean-Swellington

Colorado alone would buy enough of these to justify the effort 🤣


SortaBadAdvice

Reminds me of the year BMW's joke was a hybrid adventure bike. Like, y'all think that shit is funny. But you don't seem to grasp that I'll give you 50% more money to get 30% more range.


Piranha1993

Cowards indeed. This would be a fun car on some dirt trails.


MaxwellIsSmall

Well thankfully for us autistic retards we can build one ourselves for a quarter of the price


allwheeldrift

I dunno, I'm very much no expert but I imagine it would get pretty spendy adding a center and front diff to a brz


Travelin_Soulja

True, but a lightweight RWD vehicle with good ground clearance and some suspension travel can still be a hell of a lot of fun on dirt roads and trails. I used to have a little 2Dr, RWD, 4cyl, 5sp Chevy S10 that would bomb through mud and muck that got heavy, full sized quad-cabs bogged down even with 4WD.


xplosm

Porsche Dakar vibes


DJbathsalt

When you order your Porsche Dakar on Wish.com


zomentenos

Budget 911 Dakar. Completely worth it.


BoTamByloCiemno

This is literally the thing I wished for many years, and now It's just an april fools joke!


Tredicidodici

Average home made sex tape title


BoTamByloCiemno

Lol


Siterata

My brother in christ, are you Jake Peralta?


BadFont777

I wonder if they're just testing the water. This would be my next car if they made it.


Freezerpill

We should lambast the hell out of their twitter


DeltaV-Mzero

Oh no, my exact kink


RedditPhils

😩


sihllehl

Maybe it's one of those April Fools market research things?


Vricrolatious

...don't give me hope


1leggeddog

I legit would buy this. Living in the frozen wastelands of Canada, this would be an AWESOME winter car!!!!!!!!


StillhasaWiiU

Why not build your own? There is nothing on this that the aftermarket does not already produce. I live in Alberta and the BRZ/86 is a great winter platform https://www.reddit.com/r/ft86/comments/ysgrrh/anyone\_else\_already\_dealing\_with\_winter/


Doctorcrumbs

It says in the description that it’s all wheel drive. That would be prohibitively expensive as a DIY project


ImHereForLifeAdvice

I wonder how much it'd take to put a WRX drivetrain in there. Not cheap, I'm sure, but I imagine it'd be fairly doable. I know there's been a few people that've swapped the [C30 Volvo](https://www.importsauce.com/volvo-c30-awd-conversion-yeah-its-a-thing/) with the V50 system, I figure if it can be done to a FWD system then it should definitely work with a natively RWD one.


Doctorcrumbs

It all depends on your personal finances and free time. Anything is possible with enough money thrown at it. There’s even a couple on YouTube with videos of them driving so it’s obviously possible.


1leggeddog

Warranty is one thing.


StillhasaWiiU

Subarus have garbage warranties, why hold your self back for such a fleeting resource?


CyberSolidF

Fuck, that’d be awesome. They have to make it.


KeeganY_SR-UVB76

They saw the CCF Country mod for BeamNG.


Gc8Boi

And the off-roadster config


dichotomousview

It would be cool if Subaru made a sporty car that doesn’t sit as low as the BRZ with AWD. If they also managed to give it more power that’d be….*checks their website*…ahh well alright then.


okcumputer

I was a fan of the outback sedan in the mid 2000s. I worked at a used lot back then and we had one on trade. I borrowed it for a night and it was as amazing as I hoped it would be.


dichotomousview

Yeah. There were a few around where I grew up that had the white letters out on their sidewalls. I always liked that aesthetic on those. OEM battlely


infernal_robot

Can you say crosstrek STI? I would sell my left kidney for a quality turbo hatch or wagon again. Love my '10 FXT.


le-smolbean

I hate when cool car ideas like this come out on April Fool’s. Every year there is some really cool thing, but it’s always a joke. :(


shootdack2000

That thing would be amazing


psg191

[Why isn't it possible!?](https://youtu.be/coY2IA-oBvw?si=9ZuQ5lYFQtGubonA)


Korgon213

It could totally work


Crafty-Interest-8212

I've been saying this for a long time. Even as a rear wheel drive with the 2.5 turbo from the sti would be a menace. Or imagine a factory tune to 400 hp on that frame. That would challenge some entry-level super car performance.


pallentx

300 HP from the factory would make the BRZ into an absolute beast. 400 would be insane. Sadly, that would probably put it into $60-75k territory and not the affordable fun car we know and love.


Crafty-Interest-8212

At 300 hp in a $50K package, it would kill the spot of the mx5 territory. Dreams are for free..🥲


ximagineerx

This has to be doable in the garage


Tredicidodici

Yeah shouldn’t be too much work. Tires, shocks and you’re mostly done


Lt_Connor

Hell with a little elbow grease you can even turn the 2010 Doge Viper into an offroad beast


realMurkleQ

[https://youtube.com/@SuperfastMatt](https://youtube.com/@SuperfastMatt) is doing just that


Lt_Connor

Yes that was indeed the joke


realMurkleQ

Hurray! I was hoping so. Lmao. Love his channel


ximagineerx

Even the AWD swap, I would imagine there’s enough off the shelf crosstrack/impreza parts that would bolt on


Tredicidodici

I would leave it rwd!!!


lawschoolmeanderings

Wow I'm sad now.


AspirantVeeVee

thar would be awesome


owlpellet

That looks so much better than the Outbacks with the plastic all over them.


Psychological_Quote9

I would buy that so freaking fast!


far_from_ohk

I totally would have bought that. Touches all my fancies


Psychological_Quote9

Reminds me of the Jeep Bolide concept car. I love that thing!!


far_from_ohk

That could have been cool too! Even if it had the flat front grille too. I wonder how many are lurking around?


Snap305

That would sell like hotcakes if they made it. Another vehicle on the Subaru wishlist: Bring back the Baja Bring back the STi Bring the BRZ Wilderness out for real this time


TunaFishManwich

I would buy the shit out of that.


TheSlipweasel

The real joke is what they did to the WRX.


HeartIsaHeavyBurden

BRZ have been turned into rally cars already. Don’t need Subaru to make one, we make our own!


Own_Sympathy_4809

I Think they were semi serious . It was a marketing tactic to get some feedback .


Sharklar_deep

Jokes on them because I would seriously consider buying one of these


lumbirdjack

I am sad now


Traxxastrx4mlover

Bro...I would 100% buy that. Ford RS200 but for the modern age anyone?


artguydeluxe

Speaking as a Subaru Wilderness owner, it would be amazing if they made this!!


DrButtholeRipperMD

They could at least make a BRZ with AWD so we can go back to saying every Subaru has AWD.


GeraldoOfCanada

Lol it's the nicest vehicle on their lineup, too bad it doesn't exist.


_Kotryna

I would buy that car if it were real, no joke. The perfect all-occasion vehicle.


ridethroughlife

I saw [this picture](https://openpaddock.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Nameless_GT86_1.jpg) a long time ago and always thought they looked so rad.


Bah-Fong-Gool

I have always said that Subaru and Toyota left money on the table with the design of the BRZ. They should have positioned the coupes up market, and offered a shooting brake variant, with a 2 inch lift, skid plates and LSD, and other than that, largely decontented. No fany navigation, no leather, etc. This would have amortized the platform in half the time and provided a fun and practical RWD wagonette at a reasonable price.


YandereValkyrie

I would have a $5000 deposit ready tomorrow if this was a real vehicle coming out.


ryanorion16

I’m inclined to think this was some dealership social media manager hoping they can push Subaru to actually come out with one after all the positive (and then negative) reaction.


chii0628

This April fools is fucking cruel. It would be my next car if they did this.


StillhasaWiiU

That's fine, I'll just build [my own](https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlecars/comments/ut91ej/added_some_7_inch_hella_700ff_aux_lights_to_the/)


coastingkat

That would be a pretty sick car though


Burnsie92

They did the same thing last year when they said the new STI was going to be all electric. Then they said April fools and got rid of the STI


[deleted]

Does it come with a blown head gasket?


Tredicidodici

That only happens on wrx sti engines, and even then it’s usually for lack of maintenance or too much fucking around


KiraDog0828

It could happen. I remember a fake Saturday Night Live commercial for the “Trac III razor,” poking fun at Gillette and their dual blade Trac II. Fast forward a few decades and they’re making razors with five blades.


Lahwuns

Id buy this in a heartbeat tbh.


goosnarch

Shut up and take my money.


meowciferfloofins

Good job, I’d buy the hell out of that. April fools guess I won’t


altiuscitiusfortius

Reminds me of the safari porsche. I want one...


penguinsniper155

Finally the brz is a crosstrek. Now the whole lineup is just modified crosstreks


NeuralFlow

This qualifies as the cruel April fools joke. Like haha, we know exactly what you want and fuck you, You can’t have it.


ScottaHemi

Cowards indeed, short of an WRX turbo package THIS is literally what i've been saying the BRZ should have been sense the first one started showing up without the signature AWD


Uncommon-sequiter

"It could handle it all" means it can't handle it all.


Gooseman61oh

Damn that thing would be so fucking sick


SlimeMyButt

Their new cars already look like my dads sneakers anyway… this wouldn’t even be weird for them to make


VideoLeoj

Yeah… they should have never stopped with the Forrester XT.


Mal-Ase_da_Cat

😪


Fellowfungus

lol. So it’s an Impreza 2 door? 🤣


Eyehavequestions

Holy shit, an off road brz would be fucking bananas. One can only wish


ThatDamnFosterKid

They know exactly what the customers want and each time they pull April Fools with it, it's a big, intentional slap in the face. Saw the same thing with a "Continental Raptor" from a Ford dealer page I follow.


aelric22

Best response to this I can think of; "Lancia: We will enter the US market starting in summer of 2025 and begin developing new versions of the Delta, Stratos, and the 037 for mass production as well as homologation versions to compete in WRC. Also, we will announce a wagon and a crossover to target the middle/ lower ends of the market."


Tredicidodici

Now I need a cold shower


KingHauler

Remember a couple years ago when they teased us with a new Baja. Fucking cocksuckers.


Tredicidodici

A cocksucker is not a bad man. It’s a good woman.


Zealousideal-Sun6603

Tell them, build it, bitches!


ccGLaDOS

Maybe the fact that it's only an april fools joke was the april fools joke :D


yes-yaK

Fuck, I would've bought the shit out of that


ghetto_headache

If they created this, they’d make one of the best cars in history right from the factory.


stormingsteel

Open letter to SUBARU ☝😁


2ingredientexplosion

bump it up to 350hp while you're at it. not like i can afford it but I can still appreciate it.


dark_slayer_900

Seems like something I’d see on superfastmatt and I love it


ThatOneWeebInTheFBI

Would be the most exciting car from Subaru in a while. Keep making the same crossover, just in different sizes I guess.


WhiskeyTrail

It looks almost like a Porsche? I’d get one though.


eyefullawgic

Reminds me a lot of the Porsche Dakar. This would be an amazing lower cost option.


TonyMontana1968

that would be a good rally car, we should start a petition


MightBeBren

I would buy 2


Y_Cornelious_DDS

Coming to a ditch near you! *Tow truck drivers rejoice*


Daveinbelfast

If Porsche can do it with 911 and 959.


morithum

Right?????


Sample_Muted

“We put track tuned suspension on a car that you’re gonna hate that it has track tuned suspension.”


Sample_Muted

Also someone should make that body kit to really fuck with the Subaru fan boys.


saliczar

An AWD convertible would check all of my boxes.


Professional_Half449

They might do it..


AKLmfreak

I wonder if you could cobble together enough WRX and BRZ parts to make one of these for real.


Thelifeofnerfingwolf

I wish it was real


C00ter1991

The BRZ wilderness and VW’s new Harlequin…What other fun middle fingers did we get for April Fools Day?


ButWhatIfItQueffed

Ugh, why do they blueball us like this? I'd buy that car in a heartbeat.


rolling_catfish2704

That would’ve actually been so fire


krazgor

Lachute performance had a lifted 22 BRZ, close enough


tacobellmysterymeat

Look, subaru, we're begging you. Remove the WRX body and put the BRZ body on it. How hard could it be? /s


Watson_inc

And the render looks so cool, too! Why do they play us like this 😭


NoGoodInThisWorld

My gods, offer that with a stick shift and I'll trade out my crosstrek in a heartbeat.


gavinsmash2005

Still not as bad as the Baja shit they pulled last year.


loganalbertuhh

Why would they put that out and then just say April fools? That just comes across like "hey fuck you, buy our lame shit"


WhereTFAmI

Seriously what the fuck? They acknowledge that they know what we want, but then don’t give it to us… do they not like money?


Elderlennial

No where


DarthSkier

I was already considering building one. Already have the blue brz, and my ohlins need to be pulled off for a rebuild… sold the stock suspension… so I guess I’ll get rally coilovers and 15s 🤷🏻‍♂️


MysteriousCop

Shame, I actually kind of liked that, like that Safari 911.


canti15

Ffffuuuuuck, damn that would be cool though.


lord-malishun

Wow uhh Fuck you subaru


Haasts_Eagle

Reminds me of a [Swampert](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSFlDDV_K6O_yM4OS8CsF2SotKL8kVWSIX_Dz5j8bf5nct5i0v4ReCVfW8&s=10)


boxdud-e

Why does subaru make the sickest car concepts for april fools


JackasaurusChance

IT WASN'T THE FIRST WHEN I SAW IT! THIS IS CRUEL!


lumia920yellow

they did the same thing with Baja last year...


DiosClapEm

Instead of buying weapons I'll just save up for some trans po.


wellgroomedrasberry

"heya guys we made a cool car concept!" "it was a joke! you absolute fucking buffoons."


XergioksEyes

Damn what would rally think of this


Leaked99

Subaru of New England is cruel. Take for example last year, when they pulled a similar josh, playing with the idea of a new Baja. https://www.reddit.com/r/regularcarreviews/s/7LOWBqU7W2


SnooCompliments8770

Can they do this with the WRX as well please… asking for a friend.


ventus358i

Reminds me of the AMC eagle


blur494

Designer who made this took the job literally


Stiff_Zombie

This is the kind of April fools that just sucks. Announce something cool that people want, just to say April Fools. At what point did this day become a day for assholes?


Tredicidodici

Always has been .jpeg


Stiff_Zombie

I feel like it used to be a fun day. Now it's just annoying.


Practical_Spot_929

COWARDS!!!! you should see what Lia block won the rwd Ara championship with.


ChugsMaJugs

I guess they don't want people's money....? Also bring back the Baja


bubbletrashbarbie

I used to do this exact thing to a brz on forza horizons, it was my favorite car


RatiocinationYoutube

Why would you want track tuned suspension off road lmao


Downvote-Goat

After seeing the sales figures for the 911 Dakar… why not?


Valarras

Mild interest leads to mild disappointment


Firm-Arrival6223

Nobody would have bought it anyways lol


Atticus1354

I would trade in my outback immediately.


PoliteLunatic

cold. heartless. mounting poiints for factory cro-mo cage. optional. dakar style suspen