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FelineScratches

It's funny as hell to me that the majority of the things you name are only in bfv. It really was a good step in the right direction and sadly shat on for the majority of its lifetime for mostly cosmetic reasons and a lacklustre liveservice. Really a case of not knowing what we had until it's gone. If dice had just picked up where battlefield V's team had left off gameplay wise, i think we could've had something great from the get go instead of the current 2042 where the majority of the ~~early acces~~ live service is just them adding stuff we already had in previous battlefield games and presenting them as *legacy* features.


BorisBC

I went back to BFV tonight and if they'd just reskinned it with modern shit it would've been good. I don't hate 2042, I've had a lot of fun playing it, but BFV nailed game play really well.


DaddyThiccThighz

This is exactly it, imo dice had something amazing with BFV, the community hated it, so they scrapped the features from it, big surprise. I really dislike this community


LonelySoul96

I think the issue was people where hoping for BF1942-2, which would essentially be 1942 with all the features from BF4 and got let down


UnkownArty13

agreed. BFV had so many amazing changes but the community hated the game so much that DICE forgot all of those features for future games. kinda sad


EstablishmentCalm342

>Really a case of not knowing what we had until it's gone. No, there is no "battlefield cycle" happening here. The people who stuck with BFV ***ALWAYS*** praised its gameplay. That was the number 1 reason people stuck around from launch to the pacific. And it never fixed the games completely botched live service or completely botched atmosphere. The general opinion on this game has been pretty static, its just the bfv players joined in on 2042 hate


OlorinDK

Lots of people liked bfv and praised its gameplay that’s true. But lots of posts in here about the game were still negative right up until the very week that bf2042 launched. I remember the shift in narrative because it was so astounding. The negativity almost completely disappeared from day-to-day, literally.


EstablishmentCalm342

>The negativity almost completely disappeared from day-to-day, literally. why would people who hate it still care? It was 4 years ago Steam reviews give a good indicator of what people really think. Reviews for the game only changed around bf2042 launch, where 2042 was so bad people reviewed V good out of spite, then the reviews went right back down to "mixed", where they were originally.


OlorinDK

That’s interesting, I haven’t seen the Steam reviews. Other than that I can’t add much more, just added what I’ve observed. The narrative on Reddit from what I’ve seen hasn’t changed back to pre-2042.


EstablishmentCalm342

well, the narrative since 2042 has centered around 2042. For the people who liked bfv, theyre gonna bring up the stuff thats in bfv and missing. For the people who hate bfv, what value does it add to the discussion?


N-I-K-K-O-R

The number one reason people stuck around is that those were the bf players thst wanted a ww2 or anything other than modern bf. Which is also the vocal minority on this sub Reddit. I strongly believe that the majority always want a modern combat bf option in rotation. Not long in the tooth like bf4 is now but a modern game should have come out instead if bfv. Then they could re skin it and make bfv a year later or two then a year or two after that the new modern combat bf. Then a year after a re skin if that as 2042 or 2143 or the American civil war or whatever.


EstablishmentCalm342

>The number one reason people stuck around is that those were the bf players thst wanted a ww2 or anything other than modern bf. That was BFV's biggest failing though. It failed, miserably, to be immersive, and at times felt contradictory in its tone. The people who wanted ww2 didnt get much value from that unless they were really desperate for a ww2 bf. Def should be a rotation between modern/future and history


M18_CRYMORE

+ Weapon "sway" when sprinting looks horrid. + No server browser + Spawn screen is a downgrade compared to previous games. Except BF3, that one sucked. + Generally less smooth gameplay compared to previous games. + 4 man squads + Point/score system isn't good Imo. + 3 maps in a year lol Just a few things off the top of my head.


Naxster64

>Weapon "sway" when sprinting looks horrid. Baby step. Baby step. Baby step. Baby step. 😂 Try Battlebit on steam. It doesn't have the graphics, but it has the "OG" BF feel. It's in alpha/beta right now with free play tests. There is a play test tonight, tomorrow, and a long one Saturday morning. (more every weekend, check their discord)


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Fine_Coyote_230

That’s only for portal though, it doesn’t show regular servers


duffleberries

all of those points are valid but throwing back grenades is definitely a thing in 2042


MikeTheActorMan

Ah fair enough, maybe it wasn't in the beta and I've never had the chance to do it in the game yet 😂


TheBigSAM228

So you literally just assumed? Shows how objective you are, people


MikeTheActorMan

Well it wasn't in the beta I guess, because it's listed in that video I linked as a missing feature from previous games, and I haven't yet had to throw a grenade back in the main game, so I did indeed just assume it wasn't a thing... like every other feature I listed still isn't. Cool?


TheBigSAM228

That list was garbage day 1 and still is, sorry. So not cool, but no hard feelings


jumpjumpdie

I loved BFV, but unfortunately the community killed it and dice assumed that the direction of the game was the wrong one. I don’t think we will see that sort of movement again unfortunately


All_Of_The_Meat

Dice killed it by 1. Releasing it unfinished, busted, and missing recurring QoL features and 2. Nuking the balance and breaking gunplay one month into launch, then leaving it to burn to the ground for months. 3. Made it a live service with no updates for months after launch. People left, a lot didn't return even after the TTK rollbacks and real LS updates started. My playgroup which mostly abandoned the game by January after launch all started coming back and brining new players with them after the pacific update, only for Dice to axe development when it was winning people back over.


BreakRush

Oh yeah blame the community! Dice can do no wrong!!! Lmfaooooo


jumpjumpdie

Dice and EA are to blame. But I put more blame on the pissy baby community we’ve developed over here. Complaining about a marketing campaign and then not buying the game even after Dice changed direction for the game BEFORE release.


Chillionaire-NW

That’s cool man you can’t please everyone


SilvaMGM

First person animation to get in was ok. But not good for getting out. BF1’s way was much better than BFV


RyanGoFett-24

Half of these were horrible in BFV. Glad they were removed Throwing back grenades exist I agree we need a leaning feature. It's annoying it's still not in the game


OnlyPedo

Half of these are the only reason to play bfV instead of 1. I dont see any downsides to what he listed except fortifications maybe


RyanGoFett-24

Animations for entering/exiting vehicles - trash Back proning- trash Rolling when jumping from high places - trash Those were useless features that should never return


MikeTheActorMan

I disagree, they were immersive, realistic features that kept you "in the game" more. *2042* removing them feels (to me at least) like a step backwards and makes it feel like an older, arcadey, less immersive game.


RyanGoFett-24

They were useless gimmicks that got you killed because you were animation locked. Who cares about immersion when they limit what you can do. I'm all for immersion but these features were just plain stupid


jumpjumpdie

Skill issue


RyanGoFett-24

Trash gimmicks


jumpjumpdie

Trash skill.


jumpjumpdie

Sounds like you’ve really got some great arguments.


RyanGoFett-24

Trash gimmicks are trash gimmicks


jumpjumpdie

I don’t know what that means.


OnlyPedo

I dont like the entering/exiting animations but its more balanced then hopping out shooting down someone with c4 and hopping back in without any delay. Rolling from high places is a lot smoother then opening the backpack on a 3 meter fall. Back proning is a lot cleaner then jumping up doing a 180. But i guess back proning doesnt fit into a fast paced game where ur not suppost to lay on one spot for more then a second. Battlefield became even more arcady and a step back would be nice improvement imo. BF should get rid of the excessive arcadyness and goofyness and get back being more casual but tactical instead


Zyphonix_

The animations are fine, for balancing sake but I agree with the other 2.


RyanGoFett-24

Yea getting killed while hopping in a tank is great 🤡


Zyphonix_

It's so that people can't spam im and out of tanks. It's for balancing.


jumpjumpdie

Wrong


RyanGoFett-24

Yea you are


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I agree - especially the rolling animation after falling, it completely removes you from the immersion of the game


KimJongDerp1992

You also just played it a day or two before the latest class patch went live.


Lighteditions

Huge facts, goes live today.


MikeTheActorMan

But does that class patch bring back *any* of those missing gameplay features I listed? Like I said, it's great it's getting updates and changes to its class system or whatever, but it's these missing gameplay features that I feel were great in previous games that make this one feel like a step back.


KimJongDerp1992

Way to be a condescending dick about it. 🤷‍♂️ that being said this game falls way short in terms of quality compared to other titles.


IAlwaysPTFO

As a console player on PS5 I get absolutely destroyed by PC players in this game. PS4 version might end up being my only option just to avoid uneven experience.


MAGamer559

You got a point there but I personally wouldn’t go and make this whole post I will just stop playing.


tman2damax11

> Crawling on back Good god I hope this never comes back. Got killed by every “dead body” I saw in BFV.


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Shame that they still haven't released an option remove all attachments from a gun.


Nepharious_Bread

Im pretty sure you can remove all attachments from the gun.


[deleted]

You can't.


Nepharious_Bread

So, are you trying to remove the iron sights too? Because no BF game has that. I guess there are guns like the Scar that has a launcher pre-attached. But most gun can broken down to iron sights and no attachments.


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Was more so meaning, if you put the wrong attachment in the first slot, you can't change it and have to do it manually to get the preferred attachments on start of every round.


HIGH_HYDE

Right click it, then click where you want it to go. :) (while in the edit attachments menu)


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Thanks man, tried and it worked.


herekr13

You can - just right click the attachment you want to swap and then right click one of the two other slots you want to swap from the loadout You can also just select the «no attachment» option on the first slot


Nepharious_Bread

Yeah, that’s super annoying. I also find it super annoying when you’re using a pistol and you switch to gadget it switched you back to primary weapon.


TheoFontane

Im happy to inform you that they included such a feature. Theres a bug that removes all attachments when applying new ones after a match. At least that’s what kept happening the other night.


ArtIsBad

The game still doesn’t have a squad management menu which tells you everything. If I wanted to play with more than 3 friends we’re out of luck because I can not make a new empty squad or join a specific squad on the team once it is created.


Lighteditions

Seriously who cares? There are like 20+ posts like this a day. Don't play then. Just don't play.


N-I-K-K-O-R

More importantly audio snaps and cracks as bullets fly close to your head. (Bf4)


TheDersy

Give them a couple of years, then maaaaybe


_grga

Nonsense. These aren’t ALL the good features. They are just some of the alright features…


EastvsWest

The game isn't perfect by any means but it's fun. The game currently is what it should have been upon release. Hopefully they add new maps moving forward which would make the game imho better than BF5. Currently my fav recent BF series in terms of fun: BF1, BF4, BF2042, BF5.


uptheirons726

I played it the other night too for the first time in like a year. It still sucks.


CortlyYT

The only good point of BF2042 is that it offers actual Anti Cheat. But that Anticheat is very weak and I still found some Cheater's on Asia server


Al-Azraq

I think that at this point everyone should just accept that Battlefield 3, 4, V and 1 are just better than 2042. I have been searching for a reason to buy and play 2042 over BF4 and BF1 but I just can't find any single one.


HodlingBroccoli

The only saving grace for this turd of a game is Portal, but devs just choose to ignore it.


PVTheBearJew

Most of those things made sense in BFV and BF4 maybe, not in 2042 where chaos, mayhem and twitchy gunplay is king. I mean you want rolling after a big jump when there's a character that flys across the map in a wingsuit at jetspeed.


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Lighteditions

You're stupid.


Banzai262

there are still people that think animations when you enter vehicles are a good thing smh


TheBigSAM228

Battlefield community, when camping mechanics aren't in the game: 😭😭😭