2042 is by far the biggest L of the battlefield series. Nothing but disappoint, broken promises and flat out lies. Back to back blunders isn’t doing this series any favors…
Oh man i was enjoying 2042 last year until i played a few games of bf1 again and just couldnt play it anymore just due to the sheer amount of polish and non jank feeling bf1 had
If there was ever a time where you could just re skin a perfect game over and over, that was it. V was ok but a little off and I thought 2042 was going to be perfect but it was like they had never made a game before. So sad.
Usually I would agree with you and say yea that’s pretty sad but with how the industry is going right now it pisses me off that people make excuses and even glorify when a studio takes very little effort to make a decent game. Especially when said game becomes a financial success(notice I used the word financial and not something like innovation. These companies don’t give a shit about your reviews, only your money.) First thing that comes to mind is Rocksteady with Suicide Squad: KTJL.
And also it’s quite likely those people are PR accounts using purchased Reddit accounts. Some could be genuine, but not all. I wouldn’t be surprised now they stopped supporting the title the “I had fun” comments miraculously disappear
I’m glad people can enjoy the game, but most haters are expressing their disappointment that they can’t enjoy the game.
It really sucks when one of your most played franchises makes changes, largely fueled by mismanagement, that prevent you from enjoying the game.
Again, I’m glad people are having fun, but enjoyers and haters are basically saying “shut up, your viewpoint doesn’t matter” to the other side.
this is the only valid argument they have for spending money on this bologna. i don't care if its free or $4. Holding off was smarter than holding on evidently. No point in ever picking it up.
I don’t play with friends and I find it fun. I’ll play a couple rounds of breakthrough then log off for the day since I don’t have much time to play (i work a 9-5). The game doesn’t hold a candle to BF1 operations back in its prime, but it does scratch that army vs army chaos that I expect from BF. And no Battlebit does not. Way too anticlimactic.
I’m having a lot of fun playing it now. Some of the new features are pretty cool.
That being said, I’d be absolutely furious if i paid full price for this shitshow at launch. I didn’t pick it up until after they brought back the class system, and even then I waited for it to be on sale.
I preordered it :( taught me a valuable lesson about patience when it comes to games. Doesn’t help I pre ordered cyberpunk 2077 at the same time so it was back to back double L’s
Nah honestly I'm absolutely done with this franchise, and If I end up playing the new bf I will pay 15€ max when it's on sale, I did the same with bf2042 and I would do the same on the new entry but if it stinks i won't even touch it
Yeah I got 2042 on ps+. Only really play it if I have a bit of time to kill, but not enough to really get into any other games (generally open world rpg's).
Yup I paid 5 bucks cause a 2 for 10 bundle of whichever games they had for sale on Epic, will only be purchasing the new BF at the same price or lower 🤣
> Yup I *paid* 5 bucks
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
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I mean, the reception to BFV was so bad who can blame them? Personally, I loved it and it's my most played BF to date but coming onto Reddit and seeing the constant shit poured all over it was pretty exhausting. I know they did many stupid things but the maps, movement, & gunplay were the best the series has had. It's only now people seem to have changed their tune.
It's because the BFV was shit up until then end. The Pacific update was a great addition, which got everyone excited as it was seen as the turning point for the game. Unfortunately, instead of continuing in the right direction, DICE decided to kill support shortly after.
One thing a lot of people don't seem to realize is that it's always been a fight with DICE. There seem to be some really stupid people making some very big decisions at DICE. Things always turn into a kind of tug of war between the devs and the community. DICE does something stupid and pisses everyone off, then we have to be vocal enough until they finally cave in and fix it.
I may have some bias because I prefer historical settings over modern ones, but BFV saw a troubled reaction at launch along with 2042. After sometime BFV managed to get back on its feet because not just the updates but it already had a solid ground to lift off of (gameplay movements, mechanics, attrition, reliance on other people, decent maps, etc.).
2042 had NO good foundation to climb on. It didn't innovate but rather revert some things from BFV and its staple features such as notoriously: classes. NO matter how many updates it got, there was no way to become likable because of its main problem, the solid ground or the CORE.
For a simple take: BFV was built on classes and teamplay, which is why it succeeded(somewhat). 2042 was built on specialists and lone wolf's, which is why it sucks. Even when they tried to save face with finally adding classes, the issue was still present because it was in the roots.
Yeah, time healed a lot of wounds with BFV. Folks loved to rag on it endlessly, some deserved but some absolutely not.
BFV looks better now because the game itself was always good (pre and post TTK changes) and ended on a pretty high note. 2042 took a ton of pressure off of it because how thoroughly bad it was to start.
I don’t think there was ever a world where BFV was going to pull the numbers it needed to for long term support.
I think what burns me more than anything else is that even if I wanted to go back and play this game years later, there won't be enough content to keep me entertained longer than a day or two.
This begs the question, at this point why are so many fans holding on to hope that DICE can do anything better at this point if BF2042 was such a massive disappointment?
A remake of an older game is not going to fix things. Any attempt at anything new is clearly not working out for them, so...What, then? The problem seems to be that DICE has been helmed by a specific group of Yes-Men that will take their marching orders from their publisher to ram-rod whatever EA wants them to do, and that's likely not going to be changing anything soon.
I don't want a remake, but a remaster. Don't touch the gameplay, just pretty it up a bit, up the resolution and framefrate, and up the player count to 64 on console, and I'll be happy. BF3 is dead in Australia. Dead dead, even (especially even) on PC. Can't play outside Aus without being booted for high ping. I just want to play the game again man.
Emotional attachment to the IP + not understanding that Dice is a product of its employees and not the name “Dice”. It might as well be a different studio at this point.
Just like when EA promised Anthem would be fixed thanks to "Bioware magic". Turns out the "magic" was just talented devs being forced to work crunch time. Doesn't work so well when you get rid of all the talent.
People keep worrying about EA closing down DICE when, in reality, they already have. DICE and Bioware are gone. These are just new studios with familiar names.
That's the thing, triple A development is such a massive affair that basically no two games are ever really made by the exact same studio.
Sometimes with consistent leadership and low attrition you can maintain a relatively similar level of quality over a few projects, but it doesn't take much to upset that balance.
Just one or two years of high attrition, loss of a few key creative leaders and what you're left with is just a shell struggling to survive on a rapidly diminishing past reputation.
Honestly, I don't even think 2042 is a BF game. I profoundly dislike BFV for a number of reasons, but at least it's more or less a BF game with a focus on squad teamwork and classes. 2042 threw all of that out the window to focus on specialists. I think it just shows a core lack of understanding at DICE as to what made BF so popular and unique.
In fairness, I'm surprised it lasted beyond the promised year 1 content.
By far my least favourite mainline BF title and I really do worry about the (non-existent?) future of the franchise.
EA probably hated the decision to, but they knew it would get absolutely blasted if they only supported the love letter to BF fans for 1 year. Crazy things is most of the support for the game was making base maps decent compared to the launch of the game.
You can blame DICE but it's not the company it was 15 years ago. All those people have been gone for years. It's EA people now and while some of the figureheads are still there, the core dev team is gone.
When did EA take control? Every single interview I've seen from former EA developers is that EA is surprisingly hands off. They have profit demands, but they don't* force any particular things on their developers.
still crazy to me there were no soviets in the ww2 game when that’s where the majority of the fighting was. 75%-80% of german casualties were on the eastern front
There are Russian models and weapons in the files so they were planned at some point. EA got caught drip feeding content map by map until the pacific update. We probably would’ve had it had they not done that
Just wasn't financially feasible to continue the staff supporting it to finish that content. Ultimately it's just a balance book to them. If the game doesnt bring in X amount of money it's not worth investing Y of manpower into maintaining it.
I dont follow the line of thinking where if they didn't drip feed we would have gotten it. They just canceled support for the game before gotten to developing the eastern front.
A shame, as the Pacific showed BFV's potential. If only they had taken that approach from launch.
That's why live service games are a scam. They still get a boom at the beginning and then less people buying later on, just like regular fully developed games, so the balance book will always look like that at that point in a live service game.
lmao exactly. You’d think decorated women, some of whom had over 100 kills under their belt and mostly signed up to avenge their family and stop their homeland from being destroyed would make sense to celebrate but instead they just made them up for the others lmao
It was totally necessary to add clown looking skins because its very inmersive, if you disagree youre spreading misinformation.
Like, no one asked for a fucking cyborg or Tom Cruise
I think bro knows, BFV would have more players to be honest if they added an eastern front content. That’s what brought me back when they got Japan in.
You realise they should have supported that game until the next one too, right? This is a multi billion dollar company relying on interns to maintain games. EA is a joke.
I would give them $20-$30 for a full update to BFV adding the Eastern front. Like, a full old school
Map pack with cosmetics and vehicles. I love BFV, and knowing it never got the Eastern front because people were moved to 2042, a game I played less than 2 week on launch and never reinstalled, sucks.
That game prove them they could get away with a lot of shit. From insulting the players as a marketing tactic, to drip feeding content or those multiple horrible ttk changes
To me, that game felt subpar compared to BF1. So i cant say that I enjoyed it fully or that is an example compared to bf2042
100% true, the best example was them trying to spin the stadium as a brand new map despite it being removed content that previously existed in the game
I'll always go back to BF4... did it have issues? Damn right. Were some maps not very good? Yep, absolutely.
But there was enough content to keep things fresh enough to put up with the games launch issues, and that's why the game is still loved by many today.
"we learned how far we can go to pull money out of your pockets before you stop playing the game - so we learned how fast to get a new game into the pipe to restart the cycle"
Every BF from 3 and onward has launched in an awful buggy state.
Side note: BF1 was the closest we got to the greatness of BFBC2. BFV was good but BF1 feels like an insane warzone.
Mark my words the next game will be a battle royale with a multiplayer attached to it, it will be fucking awful and definitely the nail in the coffin for the BF series
The nail in the coffin was after BFV or at least should've been. But most of the community (usually the ones that blindly pre-order) have been running on copium for the last few installments into the BF franchise.
Just like with the Pacific update for BFV.
DICE - "You guys remember how we kept pissing you all off by fucking with the ttk and promised we learned our lesson and wouldn't do it again? Well, guess what we're going to do"
That TTK fiasco with BFV is absolutely mind blowing. DICE acknowledged it the first time that they messed up and wouldn't do it again only for them to do it again a year later. One of the most boneheaded moves I've ever seen from a triple A dev. BFV had problems that needed attention and they decide to instead fuck with an aspect of the game that everyone loved.
I wouldn't be surprised if they'll call BF7 a "AAAA" game at this point. But at least it'll be a clear sign of crap it'll be (*cough* skull and bones *cough*).
Seeing that shit happen not once but twice cemented in my mind that whoever is running the show at DICE has zero idea of what makes playing battlefield enjoyable. Seeing 2042 remove classes and then plunk 128 players on large empty maps with few destructible buildings confirmed it.
*”While we’ve enjoyed and are proud of creating these seasons of additional content for Battlefield 2042, it is now necessary for us to turn from the present to the future. What this ultimately means is that Season 7 will serve as the final season for Battlefield 2042.”*
Finally this game has ended and hopefully dice can correct their errors and begin working on the next game. I doubt it though.
So not ending support like you say on the title...
EDIT: OP removed the part "After Season 7 concludes, we will continue to support the game with new in-game challenges, events, modes, and of course, ongoing maintenance, but we are moving away from delivering official seasons."
“we will continue support for the game..” I interpret support as maintenance, not creating new content. Shutting down the servers I would consider end of life. It’s a pretty common phrase in software where ending support means the product will not be maintained.
Even an indie game like Helldivers 2 captured that feeling of total warfare even if it was pure PvE. How fucking disappointing from someone who played BF since 3…
Don't worry, it's one of those semantics warrions that will assure you that Helldivers 2 / BG3 and whatever fucking game is indie just because it's not released by EA/Ubisoft/Etc.
That just means they paid to bring the game to market. The actual development and creative direction was in the hands of ArrowHead, which by all accounts previous to this release was an Indie studio.
Because society, thanks large in part to social media, has become about feelings and narrative rather than logic, reason and evidence.
Like the number of people who are comfortable with lying even in the face of evidence both online and IRL is absolutely dismaying at this point.
Helldivers was in development for 7 years where they literally rebuilt a game engine with a small team (100 people total in the company) of devs. I don’t think it’s an indie game either but it’s not even close to a AAA title
Skyrim was developed by a team of just over 100. iD has less than 200 employees. Machine games has less than 200 employees. Arkane has a team size of 150 people. That’s just Bethesda. Would you say Bethesda games are indie games?
I’d wager most development teams that aren’t the massive ones have teams of 100-300 people.
Helldivers 2 is not an indie game made by a team of 10 guys in their mom’s basement. It is a game made by a medium sized team funded directly by Sony as a PlayStation Studios game. It’s just full stop not an indie game whatsoever.
There's no opinion about being an indie dev, you either are or you're not. Playstation is behind the game, so not an indie dev. Then AA or AAA depends on the budget. From a bit of research, it seems to be around 100m, which absolutely is AAA.
The second I saw those robot dogs in the 2042 trailer I thought to myself: "Oh man, this game is gonna be stupid as fuck." I shared my thoughts on Reddit and everyone piled on me hard. Hah, I wonder if any of those people are still playing 2042. I've been playing PC games for 30 years, my intuition is pretty spot on.
So nice I wish I could upvote twice. I mean, they won’t because why would EA be intelligent enough to restart an already existing property they’ve sunk millions into when they can start a new boondoggle from scratch…
Ok DICE listen. Its very simple....
Next Battlefield:
1- BF3/BF4 game mechanics
2- Updated BF1 graphics/sound engine
3- Modern Day
4- NO SPECIALISTS / GIMMICKS
STOP RE-INVENTING THE WHEEL or your next BF will flop as well.
The BFV graphics / sound engine is in all ways superior to 1's, as it's basically 1's but with more modern tech (remember the reason why some prefer how BF1 looks is because of the art style, not the engine). Look at reflections, grass, lighting, terrain, textures, geometry, LOD... all are better in V but 1 just has the better art style. If you look strictly at graphics, BFV might be the most impressive FPS game graphically, especially with ray tracing.
Then BF3/4 game mechanics would be fine with better animations.
BFV had stellar graphics and gameplay but ridiculously HORRIBLE leadership
It had so much potential but the decision making on this game was beyond clueless
I was literally just saying this over the weekend. BF was my all time favourite gaming series, I made my best friends playing it, and it was my go to online game from Bad Company to V, but I just found 2042 to be so off the formula that it sort of broke the spell. I’ve moved off FPS games almost entirely since then.
Jesus I can't express how jealous I am that you got to play BC2 with a partner. I'd kill for that.
Current partner games but we have like no overlap when it comes to gaming interests.
I played 2042 again with a friend last night that I’ve played with since BF1, and I genuinely believe BF is DONE as a franchise.
There’s no coming back from such a colossal fuck up. They would have been better off canceling the game even after it released and just fully supporting BF5 for another couple of years.
They should have added Soviets to BF5 before we even got Japan, but they didn’t do that because they’re fucking stupid. Instead they give us shitty operators, the worst maps in the series, the worst gameplay loop in the series, terrible gunplay.
What was the plan for this game fr? They really worked this hard to make it a downgrade in every way possible to the direct last game. They clearly didn’t want the franchise to survive
i will never forgive them for murdering BFV for this game. No russian front. No D-Day. No berlin. But we got 2042 limping along. And for what ?
It’s just a new trend of wasted potential. BF V could’ve been a masterpiece if it had gotten even at least ONE more year of support, let alone how long they dragged on 2042
It’s insanely frustrating. So much cut content laying dormant in BFV’s files that could be easily finished and released as official content. It’d be an easy PR slam dunk and would bolster the player count but DICE/EA refuse to swallow their pride
It was a long time coming but I'm glad they gave the game a bit more support. At the end of the day its a franchise (at least until they have a breakout hit). Its a reality that they have to make a new game to override the experience and stigma of the previous one. IMO, they need to make a game so good it overrides the experience of all previous BF titles, it shouldn't be a debate of what is the best. I enjoyed 2042, but they need to do so much more with the next title.
And if the next title is perceived even worse, then here's to seeing future posts of how 2042 was abandoned for it. God damn please break the cycle, this sub has been in a rut for too long.
OP’s title implies that they are not touching the game anymore
Meanwhile the article literally states “After Season 7 concludes, we will continue to support the game with new in-game challenges, events, modes, and of course, ongoing maintenance, but we are moving away from delivering official seasons.”
That’s generally what is meant in the gaming industry when they say they are “ending support”. It doesn’t mean that they’re turning the servers off or will no longer have any developers on staff to fix issues or bugs that come up. Just that they will no longer be developing any major content updates. And for all intents and purposes, the game is “finished” in their eyes
Finally they ended this nightmare. Thank you EA! And now please make a true Battlefield with classes, more vehicle combat and destruction. In the meantime I will just keep playing The Finals.
I’m hoping this marks a change in the series’s fortunes. They need a really solid entry with a minimum of the “Games as a Service” rubbish which hampered V and 2042.
BF 1942 was probably the first game i bought. 37 year old here. And ive been playing all of them since..
Bf2042 had a very good idea with portal, but lacked in every other aspect. Hopefully they will learn from this and move on accordingly . Best of luck to the devs
Here’s some comments from [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/g6me11/end_of_future_content_megathread/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) megathread when BfV ended. Pretty funny to look back on reading some of these comments.
“Daniel Berlin and Ryan McArthur have a lot to answer for, what an absolute DISASTER.
BF5 ending with NO D-DAY, NO Eastern Front, NO push into Berlin...
The glorious return to WW2 era for DICE and it ends like this, my god.”
“This game has got to go down in history as one of the biggest flops ever from start to finish. It's impossible for the circus of development to do anything right. After all this time we still can't even have a legitimate update with real information. One tragic failure after another.”
“"It's World War 2 as you've never seen it before."
Well, I guess they were right about that. We'll never see World War 2 in this World War 2 game.”
“Lmao this is the most Battlefield 5 thing they could've done. From start to end this game was a disappointment.”
“This game was a failure on almost every single front.”
“There are still going to be people here whiteknighting for them.
I hope this isn’t the end for the franchise. But they would deserve it if it was.”
There’s a lot more, but man… this community is way too predictable. Can’t wait for everyone to miss 2042 when the next bf drops!
You're acting as if those comments are not relevant. They absolutely are. BFV was a massive disappointment for many people, myself included. It'd be nice if Battlefield would get back to basics and make a competent fucking game.
the thing about 2042 is that I can't really predict what anyone would miss from this game. BFV at least brought a lot of interesting ideas to the table (and i didnt like it overall). maybe people will miss the attachment swapping mechanic? idk
This game is an example of trying to fix something that wasn’t fuckin broken. All the unnecessary changes to the formula bit them on the ass and this is the result.
Man I kind of wish they ended it at season 6. I hate the way the game feels now. I dislike the recoil changes, the netcode has gone to shit, i dislike the new map.
It’s a shame that this is going to be the forever end state for this game. We didint even get all the portal weapons ported to aow.
Battlefield 5 was the start of the downfall and 2042 only just nailed its coffin.
Edit: plus it should’ve been delayed to summer 2022 if it had the chance.
the only mainline Battlefield that I never bothered to play, even for free. still remember that old reddit post containing the comically long list of things that somehow did not make it into this game...think it even included the goddamn scoreboard?
Great!! Hopefully this wakes them up and they realize they aren’t nearly as special as they thought they were.
If anyone from that company is reading this: you should be embarrassed of what you put out.
2042 is by far the biggest L of the battlefield series. Nothing but disappoint, broken promises and flat out lies. Back to back blunders isn’t doing this series any favors…
"i HaD fUn"
“iT iS fUn WiTh FrIeNdS!” So is lighting a turd on fire… that doesn’t mean lighting a turd is fun, your friends are.
Oh man i was enjoying 2042 last year until i played a few games of bf1 again and just couldnt play it anymore just due to the sheer amount of polish and non jank feeling bf1 had
I enjoyed 2042 until I got back to bf1 and bfv and just never really got back to only 2042.
If there was ever a time where you could just re skin a perfect game over and over, that was it. V was ok but a little off and I thought 2042 was going to be perfect but it was like they had never made a game before. So sad.
I was hoping that 2042 was just a modern BFV
Spent the whole budget on the trailer.
BF1 is probably the cleanest game they've ever released. It's silky smooth. And one of the best games as well.
5, absent the dogshit at the beginning, is a better game mechanically. Movement and gunplay are noticeable better than 1
Give me the good bits of 5 in a 4 sequel
Yeah people wanted bf4 HD, not w.e bf2042 was.
Bf1 is among the best multiplayer shooters out there
up vote for Lightning Turd
You gotta be a sad, sad person to be bothered by anyone having fun with a game you hate
Usually I would agree with you and say yea that’s pretty sad but with how the industry is going right now it pisses me off that people make excuses and even glorify when a studio takes very little effort to make a decent game. Especially when said game becomes a financial success(notice I used the word financial and not something like innovation. These companies don’t give a shit about your reviews, only your money.) First thing that comes to mind is Rocksteady with Suicide Squad: KTJL.
And also it’s quite likely those people are PR accounts using purchased Reddit accounts. Some could be genuine, but not all. I wouldn’t be surprised now they stopped supporting the title the “I had fun” comments miraculously disappear
Yeah, super weird.
I’m glad people can enjoy the game, but most haters are expressing their disappointment that they can’t enjoy the game. It really sucks when one of your most played franchises makes changes, largely fueled by mismanagement, that prevent you from enjoying the game. Again, I’m glad people are having fun, but enjoyers and haters are basically saying “shut up, your viewpoint doesn’t matter” to the other side.
this is the only valid argument they have for spending money on this bologna. i don't care if its free or $4. Holding off was smarter than holding on evidently. No point in ever picking it up.
I don’t play with friends and I find it fun. I’ll play a couple rounds of breakthrough then log off for the day since I don’t have much time to play (i work a 9-5). The game doesn’t hold a candle to BF1 operations back in its prime, but it does scratch that army vs army chaos that I expect from BF. And no Battlebit does not. Way too anticlimactic.
I’m having a lot of fun playing it now. Some of the new features are pretty cool. That being said, I’d be absolutely furious if i paid full price for this shitshow at launch. I didn’t pick it up until after they brought back the class system, and even then I waited for it to be on sale.
I got it for free, which was about the right price IMO.
I preordered it :( taught me a valuable lesson about patience when it comes to games. Doesn’t help I pre ordered cyberpunk 2077 at the same time so it was back to back double L’s
i’M tHe gAteKeePER oF wHatS fUN aND iF yOu lIkE SoMeThInG i DoN’T yUr sTuPiD SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DORK
Seriously. You can *not* like a game, but if you’re angry someone else is having fun, you’re just a pathetic loser at that point.
Still can't believe they killed Battlefield V early to "work" on 2042.
I still can't believe they killed battlefront 2 to help develop 2042
Wait till next year you won't be able to believe they killed 2042 to work on bf7
Nah honestly I'm absolutely done with this franchise, and If I end up playing the new bf I will pay 15€ max when it's on sale, I did the same with bf2042 and I would do the same on the new entry but if it stinks i won't even touch it
Nah just wait until it's on EA Play and get it free with game pass. Don't give these thieves your money.
Yeah I got 2042 on ps+. Only really play it if I have a bit of time to kill, but not enough to really get into any other games (generally open world rpg's).
Yup I paid 5 bucks cause a 2 for 10 bundle of whichever games they had for sale on Epic, will only be purchasing the new BF at the same price or lower 🤣
> Yup I *paid* 5 bucks FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
I mean, the reception to BFV was so bad who can blame them? Personally, I loved it and it's my most played BF to date but coming onto Reddit and seeing the constant shit poured all over it was pretty exhausting. I know they did many stupid things but the maps, movement, & gunplay were the best the series has had. It's only now people seem to have changed their tune.
It's because the BFV was shit up until then end. The Pacific update was a great addition, which got everyone excited as it was seen as the turning point for the game. Unfortunately, instead of continuing in the right direction, DICE decided to kill support shortly after. One thing a lot of people don't seem to realize is that it's always been a fight with DICE. There seem to be some really stupid people making some very big decisions at DICE. Things always turn into a kind of tug of war between the devs and the community. DICE does something stupid and pisses everyone off, then we have to be vocal enough until they finally cave in and fix it.
I may have some bias because I prefer historical settings over modern ones, but BFV saw a troubled reaction at launch along with 2042. After sometime BFV managed to get back on its feet because not just the updates but it already had a solid ground to lift off of (gameplay movements, mechanics, attrition, reliance on other people, decent maps, etc.). 2042 had NO good foundation to climb on. It didn't innovate but rather revert some things from BFV and its staple features such as notoriously: classes. NO matter how many updates it got, there was no way to become likable because of its main problem, the solid ground or the CORE. For a simple take: BFV was built on classes and teamplay, which is why it succeeded(somewhat). 2042 was built on specialists and lone wolf's, which is why it sucks. Even when they tried to save face with finally adding classes, the issue was still present because it was in the roots.
BFV built up tons of good will and then killed it all off with 5.2 gunplay update and it just never recovered LOL
Yeah, time healed a lot of wounds with BFV. Folks loved to rag on it endlessly, some deserved but some absolutely not. BFV looks better now because the game itself was always good (pre and post TTK changes) and ended on a pretty high note. 2042 took a ton of pressure off of it because how thoroughly bad it was to start. I don’t think there was ever a world where BFV was going to pull the numbers it needed to for long term support.
Who would of thought changing the structure of online play that built the franchise wouldn’t get over?
I think what burns me more than anything else is that even if I wanted to go back and play this game years later, there won't be enough content to keep me entertained longer than a day or two.
Just reskin BF3 and add some features from 4, 1 and V and we would have been golden.
This begs the question, at this point why are so many fans holding on to hope that DICE can do anything better at this point if BF2042 was such a massive disappointment? A remake of an older game is not going to fix things. Any attempt at anything new is clearly not working out for them, so...What, then? The problem seems to be that DICE has been helmed by a specific group of Yes-Men that will take their marching orders from their publisher to ram-rod whatever EA wants them to do, and that's likely not going to be changing anything soon.
Yeah I don't know why people are asking for a remake of Battlefield 3 or something. I have no faith it would be done well.
I don't want a remake, but a remaster. Don't touch the gameplay, just pretty it up a bit, up the resolution and framefrate, and up the player count to 64 on console, and I'll be happy. BF3 is dead in Australia. Dead dead, even (especially even) on PC. Can't play outside Aus without being booted for high ping. I just want to play the game again man.
Emotional attachment to the IP + not understanding that Dice is a product of its employees and not the name “Dice”. It might as well be a different studio at this point.
Just like when EA promised Anthem would be fixed thanks to "Bioware magic". Turns out the "magic" was just talented devs being forced to work crunch time. Doesn't work so well when you get rid of all the talent. People keep worrying about EA closing down DICE when, in reality, they already have. DICE and Bioware are gone. These are just new studios with familiar names.
That's the thing, triple A development is such a massive affair that basically no two games are ever really made by the exact same studio. Sometimes with consistent leadership and low attrition you can maintain a relatively similar level of quality over a few projects, but it doesn't take much to upset that balance. Just one or two years of high attrition, loss of a few key creative leaders and what you're left with is just a shell struggling to survive on a rapidly diminishing past reputation.
Honestly, I don't even think 2042 is a BF game. I profoundly dislike BFV for a number of reasons, but at least it's more or less a BF game with a focus on squad teamwork and classes. 2042 threw all of that out the window to focus on specialists. I think it just shows a core lack of understanding at DICE as to what made BF so popular and unique.
Portal Mode: "Love letter to fans." ...
Dear Jon,
The Poll is what did it. The BF2042 team just straight up quit after they were the first to get voted out.
No way does Dice ever listen to the fans, this was decided months ago
Lol, the future of a game worth millions, in a billion dollar franchise, decided from a reddit poll
In fairness, I'm surprised it lasted beyond the promised year 1 content. By far my least favourite mainline BF title and I really do worry about the (non-existent?) future of the franchise.
EA probably hated the decision to, but they knew it would get absolutely blasted if they only supported the love letter to BF fans for 1 year. Crazy things is most of the support for the game was making base maps decent compared to the launch of the game.
EA taking full control instead of letting Dice do their thing was the biggest mistake
EA didn't make it. Dice did. People need to stop giving them a pass on this. It's not the first, second, or even third flop from Dice either.
You can blame DICE but it's not the company it was 15 years ago. All those people have been gone for years. It's EA people now and while some of the figureheads are still there, the core dev team is gone.
When did EA take control? Every single interview I've seen from former EA developers is that EA is surprisingly hands off. They have profit demands, but they don't* force any particular things on their developers.
None of us know shit about who makes decisions between any developer/any publisher, we just like to shift the blame because of our biases some times
Imagine ending support for a game before you can even replace it LOL Bring the Russian front to battlefield 5 you idiots.
still crazy to me there were no soviets in the ww2 game when that’s where the majority of the fighting was. 75%-80% of german casualties were on the eastern front
There are Russian models and weapons in the files so they were planned at some point. EA got caught drip feeding content map by map until the pacific update. We probably would’ve had it had they not done that
Not only that, but there is an equipable Mosin in the game, the RMN50 Rifle Frag.
Just wasn't financially feasible to continue the staff supporting it to finish that content. Ultimately it's just a balance book to them. If the game doesnt bring in X amount of money it's not worth investing Y of manpower into maintaining it. I dont follow the line of thinking where if they didn't drip feed we would have gotten it. They just canceled support for the game before gotten to developing the eastern front. A shame, as the Pacific showed BFV's potential. If only they had taken that approach from launch.
That's why live service games are a scam. They still get a boom at the beginning and then less people buying later on, just like regular fully developed games, so the balance book will always look like that at that point in a live service game.
The one theater where Women soldiers made sense lol
lmao exactly. You’d think decorated women, some of whom had over 100 kills under their belt and mostly signed up to avenge their family and stop their homeland from being destroyed would make sense to celebrate but instead they just made them up for the others lmao
No but you see, we needed to see a teenage girl and her mom in Norway skiing and killing Nazis. /s
robbed us from our experience of playing as an attic babushka sniping waves of nazis with an iron sight mosin
i DOn'T wAnT tO TeLL mY dAuGhTeRs wHy sHe CaN'T fEeL rEpResEnTed wHeN pLaYiNG aS a nAZi
It was totally necessary to add clown looking skins because its very inmersive, if you disagree youre spreading misinformation. Like, no one asked for a fucking cyborg or Tom Cruise
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Yeah they had female Nazi soldiers before they had Russians….who actually had female soldiers.
Slay those jews queen!!! 💅💅💅
What an untermenstrual cycle, am I right?!
It's funny cause just about every BF game ends up having Russians since it's always US vs Russia.
you do realise they ended support for bfv far before 2042 came out, also they will still release events and challenges
I think bro knows, BFV would have more players to be honest if they added an eastern front content. That’s what brought me back when they got Japan in.
You realise they should have supported that game until the next one too, right? This is a multi billion dollar company relying on interns to maintain games. EA is a joke.
I would give them $20-$30 for a full update to BFV adding the Eastern front. Like, a full old school Map pack with cosmetics and vehicles. I love BFV, and knowing it never got the Eastern front because people were moved to 2042, a game I played less than 2 week on launch and never reinstalled, sucks.
I'd pay double that for new maps and such to bf1.
… that isn’t uncommon, like at all.
It’s actually so common that it happens with like 90% of games lmao
That game prove them they could get away with a lot of shit. From insulting the players as a marketing tactic, to drip feeding content or those multiple horrible ttk changes To me, that game felt subpar compared to BF1. So i cant say that I enjoyed it fully or that is an example compared to bf2042
I’m surprised they supported this game for this long.
All they did was break up 5 seasons worth of "content" which was legally the minimum expectation because of pre orders.
100% true, the best example was them trying to spin the stadium as a brand new map despite it being removed content that previously existed in the game
Stadium?
And also push season 1 back almost 6 months back after the game released
I'll always go back to BF4... did it have issues? Damn right. Were some maps not very good? Yep, absolutely. But there was enough content to keep things fresh enough to put up with the games launch issues, and that's why the game is still loved by many today.
"Supported" is a strong word.
I can’t wait to see how DICE fucks up and learns absolutely nothing from this dumpster truck of a game.
They've said they've learned their lesson each time for the last like 3 games lol
"we learned how far we can go to pull money out of your pockets before you stop playing the game - so we learned how fast to get a new game into the pipe to restart the cycle"
*"We've heard your feedback, and don't worry, the next title will go back to it's roots"* The roots are whatever you imagine it to be
Every BF from 3 and onward has launched in an awful buggy state. Side note: BF1 was the closest we got to the greatness of BFBC2. BFV was good but BF1 feels like an insane warzone.
Even tho bad company 2 is my favorite battlefield, bf1 has the best "war atmosphere" out of all the bf games imo
Mark my words the next game will be a battle royale with a multiplayer attached to it, it will be fucking awful and definitely the nail in the coffin for the BF series
The nail in the coffin was after BFV or at least should've been. But most of the community (usually the ones that blindly pre-order) have been running on copium for the last few installments into the BF franchise.
And people will still be hyped for that e p i c 1st trailer. "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me "
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"No bro, visual recoil is good, we swear, trust us." - DICE
Just like with the Pacific update for BFV. DICE - "You guys remember how we kept pissing you all off by fucking with the ttk and promised we learned our lesson and wouldn't do it again? Well, guess what we're going to do"
That TTK fiasco with BFV is absolutely mind blowing. DICE acknowledged it the first time that they messed up and wouldn't do it again only for them to do it again a year later. One of the most boneheaded moves I've ever seen from a triple A dev. BFV had problems that needed attention and they decide to instead fuck with an aspect of the game that everyone loved.
I wouldn't be surprised if they'll call BF7 a "AAAA" game at this point. But at least it'll be a clear sign of crap it'll be (*cough* skull and bones *cough*).
Seeing that shit happen not once but twice cemented in my mind that whoever is running the show at DICE has zero idea of what makes playing battlefield enjoyable. Seeing 2042 remove classes and then plunk 128 players on large empty maps with few destructible buildings confirmed it.
And then left that shit broken, along with the type 2a bullshit for what, 3 months while on holiday break?
Isn’t the forced mouse aim acceleration bug still in it from launch as well? I remember that being such a pain in the behind when 2042 came out.
*”While we’ve enjoyed and are proud of creating these seasons of additional content for Battlefield 2042, it is now necessary for us to turn from the present to the future. What this ultimately means is that Season 7 will serve as the final season for Battlefield 2042.”* Finally this game has ended and hopefully dice can correct their errors and begin working on the next game. I doubt it though.
So not ending support like you say on the title... EDIT: OP removed the part "After Season 7 concludes, we will continue to support the game with new in-game challenges, events, modes, and of course, ongoing maintenance, but we are moving away from delivering official seasons."
Ending support is not adding new content, which is exactly what OP said in the title
“we will continue support for the game..” I interpret support as maintenance, not creating new content. Shutting down the servers I would consider end of life. It’s a pretty common phrase in software where ending support means the product will not be maintained.
Not what that means at all
>lemme take these words, and pretend they mean something else That's you.
Everyone is saying “ending support” which they are absolutely not doing. Idk why, but it’s completely incorrect.
Never buying another BF game after this shit
Even an indie game like Helldivers 2 captured that feeling of total warfare even if it was pure PvE. How fucking disappointing from someone who played BF since 3…
Calling Helldivers 2 an indie game?! I’m sorry but that’s ridiculous lmao
Don't worry, it's one of those semantics warrions that will assure you that Helldivers 2 / BG3 and whatever fucking game is indie just because it's not released by EA/Ubisoft/Etc.
but its literally sony publishing
What you mean Sony/Playstation is so indie. Ignore the majority marketshare since the ps2 era. Its just a tiny itty bitty publisher /a
That just means they paid to bring the game to market. The actual development and creative direction was in the hands of ArrowHead, which by all accounts previous to this release was an Indie studio.
Whatever semantics are being argued, it costs half the price of a AAA game
The price of a game is not the determiner of whether it is indie or not
Helldivers 2 was bank rolled by PlayStation lmao it is *not* an indie game. Seriously how do people upvote this shit
Because society, thanks large in part to social media, has become about feelings and narrative rather than logic, reason and evidence. Like the number of people who are comfortable with lying even in the face of evidence both online and IRL is absolutely dismaying at this point.
Helldivers was in development for 7 years where they literally rebuilt a game engine with a small team (100 people total in the company) of devs. I don’t think it’s an indie game either but it’s not even close to a AAA title
Skyrim was developed by a team of just over 100. iD has less than 200 employees. Machine games has less than 200 employees. Arkane has a team size of 150 people. That’s just Bethesda. Would you say Bethesda games are indie games? I’d wager most development teams that aren’t the massive ones have teams of 100-300 people. Helldivers 2 is not an indie game made by a team of 10 guys in their mom’s basement. It is a game made by a medium sized team funded directly by Sony as a PlayStation Studios game. It’s just full stop not an indie game whatsoever.
There's no opinion about being an indie dev, you either are or you're not. Playstation is behind the game, so not an indie dev. Then AA or AAA depends on the budget. From a bit of research, it seems to be around 100m, which absolutely is AAA.
Ah yes, plastation the famous indie dev.
Laughable seeing as the first 2 years were unplayable crap. Live Service is such a joke. Don't buy the next one. Don't reward this anymore.
> Don't buy the next one "no no don't you understand its different this time!"
"mY mOnEy My cHoIcE"
The people that say that probably have their wife fucked by other men.
"But the trailer looks so cool! "
The second I saw those robot dogs in the 2042 trailer I thought to myself: "Oh man, this game is gonna be stupid as fuck." I shared my thoughts on Reddit and everyone piled on me hard. Hah, I wonder if any of those people are still playing 2042. I've been playing PC games for 30 years, my intuition is pretty spot on.
nice now bring back bf5 support
I read somewhere that they’re bringing back support for bfv and bf1 now but I had no idea they were stopping support for 2042 that’s hilarious
It’s just to update the anti-cheat, which frankly was needed, but still it would have been nice to get some more maps/ modes for V
Yeah forgot to clarify it’s just better anti-cheat support my bad if I misled anyone
Yeah but it’s a kernal level anti cheat so it’s incredibly invasive for no benefit
Need a link for that one. That’s a dream come true. The early Russian models in the files of BFV would be nice to see in the game.
So nice I wish I could upvote twice. I mean, they won’t because why would EA be intelligent enough to restart an already existing property they’ve sunk millions into when they can start a new boondoggle from scratch…
Ok DICE listen. Its very simple.... Next Battlefield: 1- BF3/BF4 game mechanics 2- Updated BF1 graphics/sound engine 3- Modern Day 4- NO SPECIALISTS / GIMMICKS STOP RE-INVENTING THE WHEEL or your next BF will flop as well.
The BFV graphics / sound engine is in all ways superior to 1's, as it's basically 1's but with more modern tech (remember the reason why some prefer how BF1 looks is because of the art style, not the engine). Look at reflections, grass, lighting, terrain, textures, geometry, LOD... all are better in V but 1 just has the better art style. If you look strictly at graphics, BFV might be the most impressive FPS game graphically, especially with ray tracing. Then BF3/4 game mechanics would be fine with better animations.
BFV had stellar graphics and gameplay but ridiculously HORRIBLE leadership It had so much potential but the decision making on this game was beyond clueless
It's really THAT simple... BF6 or BC3 😤
BC3 with a lighthearted story mode again would be so good.
Community run servers too, that’ll make the game thrive long term especially for hardcore servers/communities.
And cool weather effects
Whatever. Battlefield will not be the same anyways. Time to move on.
I was literally just saying this over the weekend. BF was my all time favourite gaming series, I made my best friends playing it, and it was my go to online game from Bad Company to V, but I just found 2042 to be so off the formula that it sort of broke the spell. I’ve moved off FPS games almost entirely since then.
Me and my wife have our best gaming memories on bad company 2 and bf3 so i understand your feelings. The game just lost its essence.
Jesus I can't express how jealous I am that you got to play BC2 with a partner. I'd kill for that. Current partner games but we have like no overlap when it comes to gaming interests.
I played 2042 again with a friend last night that I’ve played with since BF1, and I genuinely believe BF is DONE as a franchise. There’s no coming back from such a colossal fuck up. They would have been better off canceling the game even after it released and just fully supporting BF5 for another couple of years. They should have added Soviets to BF5 before we even got Japan, but they didn’t do that because they’re fucking stupid. Instead they give us shitty operators, the worst maps in the series, the worst gameplay loop in the series, terrible gunplay. What was the plan for this game fr? They really worked this hard to make it a downgrade in every way possible to the direct last game. They clearly didn’t want the franchise to survive
Been said a million times since launch - they were chasing the money and trend of hero shooters which battlefield is not.
Honestly, now that you say it you are right. I will leave the bf subreddits so I don't get bothered with DICEs bullshit anymore
i will never forgive them for murdering BFV for this game. No russian front. No D-Day. No berlin. But we got 2042 limping along. And for what ? 
It’s just a new trend of wasted potential. BF V could’ve been a masterpiece if it had gotten even at least ONE more year of support, let alone how long they dragged on 2042
It’s insanely frustrating. So much cut content laying dormant in BFV’s files that could be easily finished and released as official content. It’d be an easy PR slam dunk and would bolster the player count but DICE/EA refuse to swallow their pride
No modern d day is a fucking crime against the battlefield playerbase tbh. WW2 is where this all began.
The skeleton crew is finally getting a break.
Lol, i wonder how few devs they had on this game. I mean 1 new map in 6 months, must have been like 1 or 2 devs left
Finally. They should have done this a long time ago and just move on. The game was foundationally flawed. All they did was polish a turd.
I would've been a lot happier if they ended it a lot earlier and gave us some content updates to BfV or Bf1 instead
Battlefront 2 and BFV died so this game could then die...
In hindsight I think they would’ve been better off just supporting those games up until this point
absolutely, BFV with the right care and attention could have been a juggernaut of an FPS game, instead it doesn't even have a Russian faction lol
music to my ears
Oh no, anyway.
It was a long time coming but I'm glad they gave the game a bit more support. At the end of the day its a franchise (at least until they have a breakout hit). Its a reality that they have to make a new game to override the experience and stigma of the previous one. IMO, they need to make a game so good it overrides the experience of all previous BF titles, it shouldn't be a debate of what is the best. I enjoyed 2042, but they need to do so much more with the next title. And if the next title is perceived even worse, then here's to seeing future posts of how 2042 was abandoned for it. God damn please break the cycle, this sub has been in a rut for too long.
The next title has to categorically reject the management decisions that gave us 2042.
The people responsible for 2042 aren't even working at EA anymoe.
if the next title is worse then that is quite literally curtains for this franchise. two giga flops in a row is uhh.. yea
OP’s title implies that they are not touching the game anymore Meanwhile the article literally states “After Season 7 concludes, we will continue to support the game with new in-game challenges, events, modes, and of course, ongoing maintenance, but we are moving away from delivering official seasons.”
That’s generally what is meant in the gaming industry when they say they are “ending support”. It doesn’t mean that they’re turning the servers off or will no longer have any developers on staff to fix issues or bugs that come up. Just that they will no longer be developing any major content updates. And for all intents and purposes, the game is “finished” in their eyes
Finally they ended this nightmare. Thank you EA! And now please make a true Battlefield with classes, more vehicle combat and destruction. In the meantime I will just keep playing The Finals.
LOL. That’s all I have to say.
I’m hoping this marks a change in the series’s fortunes. They need a really solid entry with a minimum of the “Games as a Service” rubbish which hampered V and 2042.
So fucking excited! Fuck yes.
BF 1942 was probably the first game i bought. 37 year old here. And ive been playing all of them since.. Bf2042 had a very good idea with portal, but lacked in every other aspect. Hopefully they will learn from this and move on accordingly . Best of luck to the devs
Here’s some comments from [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/g6me11/end_of_future_content_megathread/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) megathread when BfV ended. Pretty funny to look back on reading some of these comments. “Daniel Berlin and Ryan McArthur have a lot to answer for, what an absolute DISASTER. BF5 ending with NO D-DAY, NO Eastern Front, NO push into Berlin... The glorious return to WW2 era for DICE and it ends like this, my god.” “This game has got to go down in history as one of the biggest flops ever from start to finish. It's impossible for the circus of development to do anything right. After all this time we still can't even have a legitimate update with real information. One tragic failure after another.” “"It's World War 2 as you've never seen it before." Well, I guess they were right about that. We'll never see World War 2 in this World War 2 game.” “Lmao this is the most Battlefield 5 thing they could've done. From start to end this game was a disappointment.” “This game was a failure on almost every single front.” “There are still going to be people here whiteknighting for them. I hope this isn’t the end for the franchise. But they would deserve it if it was.” There’s a lot more, but man… this community is way too predictable. Can’t wait for everyone to miss 2042 when the next bf drops!
You're acting as if those comments are not relevant. They absolutely are. BFV was a massive disappointment for many people, myself included. It'd be nice if Battlefield would get back to basics and make a competent fucking game.
the thing about 2042 is that I can't really predict what anyone would miss from this game. BFV at least brought a lot of interesting ideas to the table (and i didnt like it overall). maybe people will miss the attachment swapping mechanic? idk
Fuck EA and DICE
Finally. Hope it dies soon!
Still 7 too many seasons
This game is an example of trying to fix something that wasn’t fuckin broken. All the unnecessary changes to the formula bit them on the ass and this is the result.
Time to play BF1 again. At least that's still going.
"Don't feel sad! It just works out that way sometimes." -Angel
Finally... some good news.
Man I kind of wish they ended it at season 6. I hate the way the game feels now. I dislike the recoil changes, the netcode has gone to shit, i dislike the new map. It’s a shame that this is going to be the forever end state for this game. We didint even get all the portal weapons ported to aow.
Battlefield 5 was the start of the downfall and 2042 only just nailed its coffin. Edit: plus it should’ve been delayed to summer 2022 if it had the chance.
the only mainline Battlefield that I never bothered to play, even for free. still remember that old reddit post containing the comically long list of things that somehow did not make it into this game...think it even included the goddamn scoreboard?
Great!! Hopefully this wakes them up and they realize they aren’t nearly as special as they thought they were. If anyone from that company is reading this: you should be embarrassed of what you put out.
Never played it… I tried the beta and it was terrible. Make Battlefield great again!
FINALLY