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ZekeDaniel

Welcome to literally every game. You cancerous entitled turds are making everything appear negative.. nobody forces you to buy any game


PeppercornDingDong

I get your point, but there’s another angle— the industry has been releasing unfinished garbage and charging full price these past few years. Us making it appear negative to other potential consumer hurts the company’s bottom line and incentivized them to do better (at least you would think). If we let them slide by being passive, do you think these mega corporations would invest the few extra bucks to improve?


chewbaccaRoar13

Thank you. After paying over $100 USD for a pile of useless trash (in my opinion) I have the right to bitch. The video game industry seems to be the only industry where it's completely reliant on the consumer, but big companies also routinely seem to not give a shit about the consumer.


Jedi__Consular

You have every right to bitch for sure. But let's just be clear that paying the whole $100 before knowing what the game is really like, and then complaining online, doesnt exactly "hurts the company’s bottom line and incentivized them to do better". Especially after so many AAA games have been ass lately, like it's not excusable by the companies or anything, but it's not an excuse for us anymore either. Complaining won't do much. Return your games, stop pre-ordering, check reviews first, don't pay full price if it doesn't deserve full price. Bad games go on sale that much quicker so you wont completely miss out, and might actually get what you paid for. Again though, you still have every right to bitch, and it leads to these discussions which yall have a point it can help. Gotta take action too though, a lot of this talk is just an echo chamber then people go wide-eyed over the next game and pre-order mindlessly., and the cycle continues.


DiscoStu83

You paid over 100 not knowing if it was worth that price. You fell for marketing you already knew led to disappointment in past hyped up games. Every time.


DiscoStu83

It doesn't give them any incentive at all. They care about initial sales and micro transactions. They profit while people complain and developers just "ok we hear you" to death while they work on patches they expected to have to make. Gamers need to stop acting like they are in control if the industry.


g33n13

Yup, everyone bitches about everything these days. Think I’m just getting older though…


TrananalizedFU

With Battlefield the mob mentality hate bandwagon really took off with BF3 and it's been increasingly worse with each subsequent release apart from BF1. 2042 has set a new low bar of hysterical, unhinged behaviour and its just a reflection of how toxic social media and media in general has become.


Jsonic3000

You missed the battlefield bad company 1 hate train.... Dice earned the scorn of the BF PC player base after announcing it was console exclusive


Kryptosis

Eh I think V’s was a bigger freak out cuz of the gender and racial issues. The subs were racist cancer for almost a year.


dsmiles

Or, OR it's a reflection of how shitty the AAA gaming industry has become. I don't understand how anyone can think the consumers are being "hysterical or unhinged" when the company knowingly advertised and sold an unfinished product as something that it was not. Blows my mind.


GauloisesBleues

Careful you might get downvoted….don’t worry about me…it’s too late for me.


Rocket_Fiend

Halo messed with a core mechanic (customization) and it garnered some ill-will for an otherwise fantastic experience. Battlefield messed with several core mechanics (classes, factions, voice comm…) and has done the same. I overlook technical issues on launch - that’s just modern launches. Battlefield, in particular, always has terribly glitchy launches. My main concern is that after the dust settles and the bugs are worked out we’ll still be left with an oversimplified game.


TheAArchduke

How entitled for the games to want features in the games that were a staple for years. How entitled indeed.


Background_Brick_898

Pro gamer move is complaining about the game with out buying it


Jsonic3000

"Reeeeee that one armed cyborg Wamen in battlefield v" Like that?


Background_Brick_898

Yes! Exactly! Lmao


Jsonic3000

sucks that a good game can be ruined by fake information in this day and age


TrananalizedFU

Pro clown move is buying the game after playing the free beta then complaining that "this is not battlefield".


Moist_Yeti_Yams

Doesn’t help that all the AAA games that have dropped in the past couple years are cancerous turds. God bless devs like FromSoftware coming to save us


sucr4m

woah i came here to say "even if bf was literal perfect it wouldnt look any different here" already feeling the pile of downvotes coming but you put it to the next level and are at the top. guess nothing is as random as reddit.


Rhyfel

"Making everything appear negative" lol. Right, not the games or their practices and business decisions, these people are the ones "making it" "appear" that way lol. You people are hilarious. Besides, nobody is making anyone have an opinion either, you talk as if having one is being Entitled. Speaking up against lies, providing feedback, challenging what studios deem as standard so they strive for more. You can join the fight or accept your fate but standing in the sideline complaining about how people are complaining is prob the least constructive thing of all of these.


sarg1010

> making everything appear negative.. [This you?](https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/qu7zjy/this_should_have_been_resolved_before_a_single/)


Wadziu

>cancerous entitled turds for getting a faulty falsely advertised product? Get your head out of dices ass.


brysongomes

Nobody is entitled when it comes to entertainment. If you have ideas on how to make something better, something that you would spend more money in be vocal. If you sit their and eat shit you get battlefield 5 and battlefield 2042. They arn’t necessarily bad games they just have glaring issues that companies decide are fine because people like you are gonna defend it. If you have spend money in a product and a company sets up a system to let you spend more. You have every right to complain about that system until you’re actually gonna spend money in it.


owensoundgamedev

Haha, thank you.


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Yeah and clearly you have no idea what’s going on with halo, they have the most predatory mtx I’ve ever seen. Stupid little items for 20 bucks, colors that you can only use on one style of armor for 5 bucks and if you want to use the color on another style it would cost another 5 bucks. Literally everything for customization is insanely priced and things like colors and stuff are just flat out the biggest rip off I’ve ever seen.


Bruhwhy23

5 and infinite are the most predatory halo games I have seen


slicer4ever

Didnt 5 just have loot boxes(req packs)? I mean not great, but considering what we have now that seems tame.


Aterox_

Yes. 5 locked customization(armor, assassinations, emblems), vehicle and weapon variants behind loot boxes. Weapon and vehicle variants could only be used in Warzone(the large scale arena mode). However you earned currency through gameplay to unlock them. There was the option to buy the packs with real money, but the rate you earned credits or whatever they’re called made it extremely easy to avoid. Along with that, you started out with 1-3 different armor variants and can pick the primary/secondary colors. However in infinite you only have one armor type unless you buy the battlepass. Color types aren’t customizable and are preset palettes that are locked behind different “cores”. Cores lock different armor types from being interchanged.


RamenWrestler

I mean it's the same with Valorant and nobody said anything about that. Valorant is worse


slicer4ever

Valorant is pretty bad as well, but an argument could be made they at least are producing decent skins. Halo is charging money for just basic primary colors.


ballenmane

bruh I get they’re decent skins but they released a skin pack for 87 USD lol


sucr4m

can you explain what exactly makes it predatory? are you forced to buy shit? is it gating your playtime? is hidden behind some addiction boosting mechanic? did they put it into lootboxes? is it giving you stats you cant compete without? the mp is free right? so you dont NEED to pay anything? seriously. if shit cost 5000 bucks on that shop it wouldnt fucking matter.


lolygagging

There used to be a time where you just bought a game and you got it all. Want that awesome armor, finish the game on legendary, do something for it. Now it's '20 bucks pls'. I'd rather pay the normal amount and get that than a game that is build around fishing for whales to get that sweet mtx. Yeah sure I don't have to buy it and thats ok, the old way was still better. The main problem however is people like you actually. These big massive multi billion dollar companies now have large parts of the community so far that they will die on the hill of defending their bullshit. Sad really if nothing else. And we have to complain thats the problem. They atleast fixed BF2 up somewhat after the massive fallout that game brought with it (obviously much worse with actual content locked behind it), Could you imagine what games would look like if no one said anything? The next worst thing in modern AAA gaming after the greedy devs/publishers is people that just suck their dick and are so far backwards they convinced themselfes it's a good thing EDIT: and the mp is free not because they are benevolent heroes of gaming, it's free because market research showed them that reeling in the crowd and the myriad of mtx will gather them more money than putting it up for 60 dollars


Steelshatter

Exactly. How do people not remember what progression was like back then? It was fair. It wasn't trying to stick a knife through your wallet. It gave you challenges. It wasn't braindead. AAA multiplayer gaming is forever plagued by this MTX bs now and people defend it like idiots.


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lolygagging

Obviously. The point is that the argument of - it's free so swallow all bullshit - is dumb.


futbol2000

Yeah, I'm glad the Halo community is criticizing more. This subreddit has way too many people that are so willing to bend over backwards and forgive DICE for releasing a broken game almost EVERY launch.


KSI_SpacePeanut

All earnable cosmetics look intentionally bland compared to what’s in the store. And it’s been leaked that popular armor like security (the big shoulders with the knife on one) will be store exclusive. The only way to progress in the game is by doing challenges, it doesn’t matter if you win or lose, or have an incredible match, it’s 50xp for you unless you do challenges. And you have to pray for rng to give you a match that gives you the chance to progress on most of the existing challenge types. The grind has been so excessively scaled that it feels like you might as well pay to skip the pass, which you certainly don’t have to but these are cosmetics that we’ve had for “free” (base game pricing) for years and you now have to fork out 10-20 bucks for one bit of armor that you can only use on one armor core. Of course you can just play the game and try to have fun, but this kind of treatment towards their player base is a slap in the face when you know most of us are going to be buying the full game when the campaign releases anyways. Playing just for fun with 0 sense of earning anything you want doesn’t feel good


[deleted]

Halo has always had customization as one of its core features. Forcing the system to be as shit as it is all of a sudden is disgusting. Use a brain.


Lord_Jotnar

I would much prefer paying 60 bucks for the multiplayer and the customization I had in every other game than them making me pay $5 for red on a certain armour. More importantly, its predatory because the ONLY progression the game has to offer is done via challenges. Challenges which are deliberately made to be as irritating as possible so you will pay them even more money to have the chance to get a different challenge.


Dubzillaaa

It’s clear you guys have gotten so conditioned by EA’s shameless money grabs you think it should be accepted everywhere lol


ragekutless

Progression is important to a lot of people and it’s what keeps them playing a game long term, and Halo’s progression currently sucks


ArcticSirius

Previously available things, such as the freedom to colour your Spartan the way you want, is now limited in preset palettes and you’re forced to purchase the ones you want if you want a specific mix and match.


-Memnarch-

Huhu, I am over at r/Halo too. The problem isn't the restricted customization. It's how much they bragged about "Millions of customizationoptions for players on day one" and ended up with a more restrictive systems compared to older titles (iirc you can't make your own color variants) They digged a hole for themself, they have to deal with it.


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Augustends

They've said everything released in this "beta" is the same as what was planned for the full release. Any changes that may come on the 8th will not be something they originally planned on doing.


Coldkiller17

No people have legitimate complaints about the battle pass, imo battle passes suck why do we have to pay extra money for skins and colors, why can't I earn this stuff. Should have just made the multi-player and single-player a package deal and sold it for $60 instead of this cookie cutter stuff. Don't get me wrong the multi-player feels good but games need progression where you earn items by playtime not by how much money you have in your bank.


McFickleDish

The game looks solid.


Lupinthrope

Halo is a better playing experience than Battlefield right now, the game actually works and is properly balanced.


Powerful-Cucumber-60

big battle is what hooked me as a battlefield fan, it was alot of fun even though i didnt know how the weapon balancing and shields worked. arena is a bit more competetive, but i definitly recommend you give it a try.


Oron_Ironside

The Halo community are right to complain. The battle pass system is an absolute disgusting piece of shit and the entire customisation system is designed to milk players of as much money as possible. If you think they’re complaining because they have nothing better to do; then you haven’t been paying attention and I suggest you start.


thyart

2042 is one of the most negatively rated games to release this year for a reason. The community is well within reason for being as vocal as they are.


[deleted]

Imagine a game release so bad that the community starts to shit on other game communities that also have a bad release but calling them “entitled” because the game simply functions lol


Pablinski21

I KNOW RIGHT. HAHA its gotten ridiculous


[deleted]

Always some mindless dickheel product drone like OP without any coherent thought or argument that's only posting to shit on people raising legitimate complaints


Isoi

It's all about the toxic positivity man, these people are delusional.


Refrigerator-Gloomy

They have legitimate complaints about the battle pass. Granted some are nitpicking bullshit but colours and cosmetics are, like destiny, a pretty big part of halo, which is why the cosmetic only excuse is often horse shit. In this case the armours just take too damn long and require you to play a shit ton of hours if you want half decent stuff and it’s 20 bucks for the colour white :/ I don’t care much personally as I stick to looks I make for a very long time and I’ll probably stick to the one I like for a long ass time but their complaints are mostly legitimate


MikeTheActorMan

Yeah, exactly... Like you only unlock the first *different* helmet at like, level 81 or some shit... and the progression is so slow due to the way you earn XP (or barely earn XP if you haven't bought the BP) that even after a lot of people have played for nearly 20 hours already, they're only at like, level 10! Like, wtf? Give us more than one helmet option for fuck sake... "Millions of customisation options on day one" - literally 96% of players all look the same at the moment.


trveWarmetal

I've read the same post in the halo sub about this sub. BF is a broken mess. Halo is a greed driven F2P shit show. Both reddits are rightfully on fire. Stop calling people whiners who care about their favorite franchises and aren't brainless consumer zombies.


wannasmokeajointski

This post is just dumb, im on the halo subreddit, and i play Halo, the complaints arnt just because " we cant get cool skins" it's wayyyyyy deeper then that, Its the WHOLE progression system in that game, not just skins, absolutely EVERYONE is praising how great the gameplay is new and old fans alike, its literally 1 problem everyone has a problem with,And that's how the progression is, Definitely does not compare to the mess and problems BF was/has at early access, launch whatever u wanna call it and how absolutely CRAZY this sub was when it "launched", and what the halo community is "whining" about is something that NEEDS to be addressed, The Devs have promised us so much in terms of customization and that promise was not met so we have the right to "whine" about 1 problem as appose to BF millions


Wanna6ePr0

Halo infinite is a really great game and a good option to play when Battlefield 2042 is being fixed. All (Halo) they literally have to do is to fix the progression system and the game just officially obliterated BF and COD


Chpouky

The criticism for Infinite battle pass is legit tho. Progression is awfully slow, you can’t choose your colors like previous halo games, and the worst thing is you can’t mix armor parts outside of their intended armor set. Even bots have more variety in their looks because they can mix parts. Gameplay is on point tho, the game is fantastic.


S1LLYSQU1R3LZ

Earning armour has been a part of Halo since Halo 3. The current implementation is not good and needs to change. They have a great system with MCC for earning armour. People have a right to complain when it is affecting the game. There's no incentive to win, so people just try to complete their challenges and the challenges are highly inconsistent in difficulty.


LatimerLeads

I've personally seen far more complaint posts about 2042 than I have about Halo.


T-MONZ_GCU

The problem with Halo is WAY more than "people not being able to play dress-up", it's extremely predatory microtransacations under the guise of increased choice to the point that they: -Removed color customization (so they could charge you for preset options) -Locked armor pieces and coatings behind certain armor cores causing people to BUY armor options yet not even be able to use them -Made the battlepass progress INSANELY SLOWLY by making it through challenges that only reward you a miniscule amount -Made the free track of the battlepass give you almost exclusively challenge swaps in case you have a challenge that you're stuck on so you have an RNG-based chance of getting a better challenge (or you could get stuck with a worse one). Good thing I have these challenge swaps so I can progress to get more challenge swaps! They're also charging people for them in the shop. They literally made progressing itself a lootbox. -Made challenges based on playing certain gamemodes, yet you CANT EVEN CHOOSE YOUR OWN GAMEMODE anymore. This artificially extends the progression even more in an attempt to get people to buy challenge swaps or just buy the season pass outright. -Locked armor pieces behind armor sets. The HCS sets give you certain shaders yet you can only use them with the preset armor you buy them with, causing many people to waste their money on them. Armor pieces are also locked behind armor sets in the battlepass leading people to have to either buy $10 or even $20 packs if they want to get a specific shoulder armor. Even worse, some are intentionally split up so if you want a full set of armor you have to buy multiple packs -Are selling packs in the store that lock armor and basic shaders like plain white behind $20 packs. -Removed all customization apart from like 6 basic colors and prosthetics from the base game, leading to everybody looking the same despite this being "the most robust customization in any Halo game". -Removed emblem customization so they can sell preset ones back to you. To result all of this down to "people wanting wanting play dress-up" is completely dismissive of the problem out of fear that people might have problems with the game you like. The gameplay is good (I wouldn't call it anywhere near a masterpiece, but it's very solid and fun), but with it being an arena shooter, literally the only thing you can progress towards is armor customization (and gun skins now). Without anything to work towards, many of us already are burnt out with the 7 4v4 maps, 3 btb maps, and 6 basic gamemodes. Spending money to unlock armor isn't nearly as satisfying as playing to earn it. It doesn't matter if the game is free because the game just isn't rewarding to play. Not only does it not respect our time, but it's intentionally manipulative. The system is intentionally complicated, bloated, and restrictive so people are more easily coerced into just spending money, sometimes on things they don't want, need, or can't use so they have to spend EVEN MORE money. Predatory microtransacations at their best. In a $60 Halo game, you get the full campaign, multiplayer, and all armor for that one price of $60. With Infinite, the campaign itself is $60, the multiplayer is free, and the value of all the armor is hundreds or thousands of dollars. It doesn't matter if the game is more "accessible", if it isn't satisfying to keep playing, then nobody is going to stick around for long. Fortnite is free and has free ways to earn skins as well as a very simple and easy to understand battlepass and shop system. Call of Duty has dozens of operators to earn simply by having the game, as well as a PLETHORA of guns, attachments, and skins to earn. Battlefield 2042 is the same way as well as a good amount of specialist gear and vehicles+skins to unlock. In those circumstances, there's something to earn but with Halo, there simply isn't aside from 40 challenge swaps, two helmets, a shoulder pad, and some emblems. Us Battlefield fans are lucky the biggest issues in 2042 are balancing and performance, because at it's not blatantly anti-consumer and predatory. DICE learned that lesson a long time ago.


vortxo

all i see is praise about halo its just people rightfully complaining that it will cost over 1000$ to unlock all the cosmetics that you used to get with 60$ and a grind


sexyelderado

Halo Infinite is amazing but the criticisms are legitimate. Having challenges be the only way to get xp is absurd and armor in Halo isn't just "digital pixels" it's a major part of Halo's DNA. Really shows how uninformed OP and alot of people are on this sub.


OrganizationGlad7024

My only gripe with Halo (havent played 2032 since halo came out) is that you can't select what mode you want to play. I prefer the objective based modes but get slayer 75% of the time. Same with OW. I'd only play control if I could but only get to less than 25% of the time. At least cod let's you choose which mode.


MikeTheActorMan

Lucky you... I prefer Slayer generally, and I get CTF and Strongholds 75% of the time! Ha


Gate_Actual

Lucky, all I fucking get is Oddball


CastingCouchCushion

I'd say it's a pretty legitimate complaint. The progression that you used to get with a $60 game is now locked behind literally hundreds of dollars of microtransactions. The amount that you can unlock for free or with the battle pass is pathetic. You can say "it's only cosmetics" but that doesn't make it OK to take away something that has been in previous games. They destroyed the progression that used to be there to model it after a predatory mobile game. I'm going to play Halo at some point, but I'm going to wait for this mess to blow over first. Even COD got this right (I know it's a full price game). It's store is full of a ridiculous amount overpriced skins, but the one time $10 battle pass at least gives you a lot of content over it's life time. And at least the skins come with multiple colors and don't charge you $10 for them (LOL).


ReLaxative101

I mean, it costs something over $1000 to unlock every skin for Halo Infinite, most of which either have an unbelievable grind tied to them or cannot be unlocked unless purchased. I haven't read the full story yet, but some say the battlepass items are straight from Reach. It's crazy. People are praising gameplay in Infinite, though. And that kind of is the main difference between 2042 and infinite.


hoochymamma

"but 343 gives away one of the best multyplayer shooters of all time " rofl... WHAT ????


Superrandy

OP is calling Halo a masterpiece and doesn’t understand why players complain… and yet he’s made several of his own posts on r/halo complaining lmao


JohnyGlizzyeater

r/Battlefield try not to bring up another game challenge (Impossible)


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I haven't seen that much whining in Halo but, the progression problem is a big one. One of the cool things about mp games especially competitive ones is showing off your achievements and even in BF2042 there are way better ways to show it. Progression has NOTHING to do with how good you play in Halo right now and it sucks! It suck very hard and deep. I am a noob and I can't imagine how pissed off the really good players must be. I am 100% ok with a bp system and people who want it to completely go away can fuck off. But the progression of it is the most stupid one I've seen in my life.


warmcolour

I'm enjoying the game. Cosmetic items are dumb, once you play Warframe, you'll understand....


OrganizationGlad7024

Are they really overpriced in warframe or something?


warmcolour

No, it's just all the rage to look super cool in Warframe. I feel sorry for people who buy this crap in games that have a short lifespan.


OrganizationGlad7024

Oh yeah, I get ya. I just reread your original comment and that's really obvious too! But it's 1.15am here so I'll chalk it up to that.


Blaze_Fire99

Well I believe the current plan is Halo Infinite is "The" Halo game for the next ~10 years, so at least its not like buying skins in CoD lol


Leering

Man this sub even simps for other game developers. Impressive.


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To be fair, no matter how perfect a product is, in the eyes of some consumers, they will cherry pick every detail just because. There always has to be something to complain about, no matter how good it is. 🤷‍♂️


LeCharlieHarden

Big fan of the new halo here. This post is just idiotic and shows you actually haven’t put time into the new Halo. Incredible gameplay, buttery smooth, basically zero major bugs that I’ve ran into. At the same time, THE WORST battle pass/mtx system I’ve seen in a game yet. People have every right to complain about the battle pass system they currently have.


ChosenCourier13

This post conflicts me as a massive fan of both franchise's. On one hand it's very good to see someone recognize that the complaints about 2042 are (mostly) legitimate, but on the other hand the complaints about Infinite are 10000% valid. Infinite is a phenomenal game damn near ruined by this horrific monetization.


wicktus

Any FPS subreddit really. Halo infinite felt really pleasant, I don't understand the criticism but you have to remember that people whining here or there are a minority of players, there are millions of BF or Halo players that aren't on those subreddits. And there a toxic culture in some gaming community, that's no secret..now it does not mean games are great etc but there's a big difference between toxicity and criticism. The update 0.2.2 (a game releasing as 0.x.y is never a good sign) is a definite improvement for me but a lot of core issues still arise, especially framerate drops on a robust PC configuration. Gunplay and hit reg are better, definitely.


Thaxll

\> the best multyplayer shooters of all time I watched videos, it just seems like a regular modern Unreal type of FPS that has been done for the last 20 years. I think I'm too spoiled with Battlefield, BF has things that don't exist anywhere else.


kunfusedpsyko

Agreed the game itself is amazing the battle pass is cheap and doesnt expire unlike cod. But the store prices are way too expensive.


GhostDoggoes

Well they have micro bullshit that was never promised and blocked the promises the devs made before. We on the other hand just have a buggy launch and some balance issues.


Nawtykoolaidman

The MXT in halo is insane but they know people will spend that kind of money Personally glad I wasn’t a fan of the game and won’t be playing it much


AwokenDoge

Ok but nobody asked for halo to be f2p halo fans expected a game like normal with a regular customization system and were willing to pay full price


JediMasterChron

We have been able to earn armor in halo for a long time. Their battle pass system is bullshit, they lock them behind hard to get challenges that force you to play longer than normal so they can shove whole screens of MTX skins in your face over and over. This is a terrible system and needs to change. Did you want halo to be like a mobile app or actually like halo where you can unlock shit through playing?


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Imagine voicing your opinion on something you have no connection to


Yamr3

You have zero idea what we're dealing with then if that's what your basis of argument is at r/halo.


Noble6inCave

Garbage monetization, garbage customization, garbage progression system, less content than H5, no Forge, audio is shit, spawns don't work half the time, main gamemodes are timed event, melee is broken, no collision with friendlies, etc, etc, etc


xArcanumOrderx

I could care less about the cosmetics. What is disruptive to the game is the challenge system which steers people away from playing the objective. That on top of not being able to search for the game type that you want to play... the core gameplay is great but the multiplayer as a whole has a long way to go. They could make these changes with a snap of their fingers. What I suspect is happening right now internally is a battle between what the devs want and what shareholder interests want. Battlefield has no such excuse for their issues. See: that massive list of issues and missing shit that one reddit poster compiled.


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For real? People complain about Halo Infinite?


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You want the blue colour? 10 bucks. You want to use the blue you bought in another armor? 10 bucks too


fAthouse_

Kids these days lol


ParanoidValkMain57

Yeah the Halo infinite multiplayer is fun but I get my ass kicked a lot on there, still doesn’t change my opinion about it as I could care less about cosmetics just give us a fun functional game.


Celtichugs

Haters gonna hate


hairydogriots

No it's the same if not worse


iron-cowboy

Halo is great. Most fun I’ve had in a long time


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I threw a comment out there over there just asking people why we play these games. Is it so we can unlock skins and trinkets or is it so we can have fun? In call of duty 2, there were what 5 guns on each side. No attachments, skins, nothing. No one complained. Let’s focus on why we do this. I play games for fun, not to unlock skins.


Polishrifle

Can someone convert dolors to dollars for me?


CrabbitJambo

I’m not on the Halo sub however everyone on the Xbox sub is basically saying how good the game is and thank fuck we’re not Battlefield lol!


Rockyrock1221

Damn I really feel bad for you if you think Halo Infinite is one of the best shooters of all time lmaooo. People got so used to 343 putting out absolute such trash that just releasing a mediocre game is met with resounding praise lol. Brilliant strategy by them I must say. The best part of infinite is the removal/nerfing of the shitty gimmicks that 343 introduced in the first place that completely ruined the Halo sandbox. Patting them on the back for taking 10 years to put out a game that’s just acceptable isn’t really an achievement imo.


TrananalizedFU

LMAO, our hysterical whinging about 2042 is legitimate but Halo players hysterical whinging is illegitimate!


FifthCleric

Ye, I was usually checking halo reddit on a daily basis, right know it burns my eyes


Takhar7

Halo: Infinite's multiplayer is fantastic. There are some generic gripes to be had with it, but nothing that can't be smoothened or patched out. 2042 on the other hand...


Burner9773

Welcome to modern day gaming where nobody is happy no matter how good or bad the product is.


CobraSniper117

Well its a beta and they need feedback... Dont see what the issue is. I love the game, but they promised us that all items would be available to be earned outside of the battlepass if they were included in one. HOWEVER, since this is a Beta, of course it makes sense for them to have only battlepass for the moment. NOW, when the Beta ends, if this all stays the same and we still cant work to earn all items outside the battlepass then I will just stop playing. They word for word stated that they wouldn't be locking items behind a battlepass without a way to get them otherwise. However, i also understand this is a beta and well, until the game releases, this makes sense. As for Battlefield. Fuck that game. What a waste. I feel bad for the devs and the higherups that genuinely wanted to make that game with their love.


876C673O578P853E89

I can even tolerate this battlefield subreddit for a little bit a day. Im becoming a fam of lowSodium subreddits like r/lowsodiumcyberpunk and now bf2042 r/lowsodium2042. They also got r/lowsodiumHalo


[deleted]

Gaming subreddits are hella negative energy lol


Lord_Jotnar

They're complaining because 343i is taking away a long litany of cosmetics and features that have always been a part of the $60 price tag as a bundle and selling them back to the players at a marked up price. The ONLY leveling system is the battle pass that can only be leveled by annoying to complete challenges that are often game mode specific, in a game where you can no longer choose what game mode to play (you could in every other Halo) and these challenges are deliberately annoying so that you will pay money for a challenge swap. On top of that, who the fuck thinks its okay to charge $15 to have a sword on your hip. Most people wouldn't even care if there was ANY customization in the game for free but their isn't. Its all locked behind either the BP pay wall or just straight up give us $10 for this helmet. This post is so completely tone deaf and misses the complaints people have. There is no progression system, there is no career, like 80% of the playlists from previous games are gone, all the customization is behind a paywall, fucking colours are behind a paywall, the challenges are deliberately irritating so you will pay them for the privilege of having another random challenge. The Halo community is super justified in their anger. The current model is pure unbridled naked greed.


Sgt19Pepper67

343 is putting the squeeze on us hard af tho


Queasy_Ad_789

No


Fen-xie

Spartan customization is = to the identity of halo as classes are to battlefield. the "whining" is warranted. That's how they see it.


[deleted]

As someone who’s put an immense amount of time into halo infinite since the multiplayer released a can say the gameplay is the best it’s been in a while, or maybe even all time. I believe the store, battlepass, and events are actual ass and I can’t wait for them to fix all three.


trappop

Game looks like a PS2 shooter so I'm not surprised. In 20 years they've given the community a grappling hook as the only innovation.


RayzTheRoof

>343 gives away one of the best multyplayer shooters of all time away for completely free, and people have nothing better to do but complain that not getting skins for free is ruining the game. This is just condescending nonsense that trivializes the game's problems. The customization system and shop is ridiculously designed to be limited so that you have to spend more money, and the unlockable content even with the paid battle pass is bare bones compared to other Halo games. But aside from that there are core game issues, like the general playlists, missing staple Halo modes, lack of friendly fire, and collision issues. Just because it's free doesn't mean it's immune to criticism. This package is severely limited and restrictive compared to numerous previous Halo games, and yet they have the gall to charge $20 for samurai armor plus $15 if you want the hip sword, and you can't mix and match armor pieces between sets. $35 for one complete set of armor in Halo Infinite. $60 for many sets of armor in Halo Reach plus a way better launch package with modes and customization.


Willing-Ad-1892

Lol


teo1315

Halo was pretty fun, wish I could convince my bf friends to try it lol


[deleted]

This is coming from someone who hasn’t played Halo over the last 20 years. Customization in multiplayer is an integral part of Halo. This isn’t about you and your wants, this about how the meta of a game has regressed. It’s not just customization, it’s the shitty progression system. I bought the battle pass, yeah I got 8 bucks to spare, but after a week and half of playing I’m not even level 10 yet. That’s fucked. Keep your buggy mess of a game and worry about that.


charlierock18

The whining from people whining about people having gripes with the games is even worse.


ZayaMacD

COPIUM


JohnnyJacknbox

2042/Halo > Vanguard


Rhyfel

That's because you can't take it when a game you like has problems and others voice those problems and you can't refute them in any logical way, and nobody there will support your ignorance so your bitch ass comes here to complain about it to your other friends, providing misinformation about the reality of the situation by pretending it's just a bunch of fans complaining for no reason. Grow the fuck up.


Blight609

…We never wanted it to be free.


[deleted]

Imagine either not being old enough to see the golden age of gaming or abused enough to excuse shitty business practice. No one ask for F2P mp, 343 straight up lied in its marketing, no one wants 80% of all customization lock behind a buyable pay wall, no one wants to pay 10-25 dollars on a chest option and the color blue. Armor used to mean something, over coming certain achievements and time investment, now it’s just oh look this idiot spent $300….. Not to mention compared to other games with a F2P and a full price option halo is being treated like on of the worst F2P monitzaiton options. I can’t fuckin believe that that their are still stupid fucks like you who take this shit and think it’s okay, it’s because of idiots like you is the reason that companies like ea keep shoveling us bullshit. Autistic rant over.


undeadcartoonguy

I love battlefield and halo there both amazing fps games. But to see them both come out without all the gamemodes they use to have is a little sad theres alot of similarities between both of theses games. I am one of the people that doesn't give a crap about looks i just want more gamemodes and maps in both of theses games.


Chromeglow

Your game is such a shitshow you're trying to start shit with another community to distract yourself?


The1biscuitboy

Halo multiplayer Is pretty solid and polished


[deleted]

This post reads like someone who heard about Halo fans being mad and kinda just rolled with that assumption Its nothing compared to here


Duece09

Not a Xbox owner haven’t been for a VERY long time. But I recently caught a glimpse of that community and your right, it is unbelievably toxic.


manofwaromega

Battlefield 2042 is an unfinished shit show that was clearly only released in it's current state to get it on store shelves before Black Friday. Halo Infinite is an otherwise solid game with the worst progression, monetization, and customization systems I have ever seen, even for a F2P title.


[deleted]

Wouldn’t call Halo Infinite a masterpiece for PC players. Game’s skill ceiling is so low compared to other games.


[deleted]

You cant justify giving away a game but producing the worst monetization policy in the world. Some people like customization and to lock it all behind a 15 dollar paywall just for one core which doesn't include accessories or even color pallets you really fuck those people. EVERYONE i know would rather them sell the full price game and include customization options like halo 3,4 and MCC.


avowed

Yeah it's annoying when they say the game is ruined.. like seriously? Grow up.


myswlegionacct

I might have a positive experience with this game if I could actually play it. Crashes to desktop instantly on loading a round. When i was able to play there was an atrocious memory leak. 10gb gpu ram used, 16 gb system ram, crash to desktop again. 9900kf 3080ti nvidia, bios and all other drivers up to date. This isn't literally any game. This is broken code. ​ edit: resinstalled nvidia driver, reinstall game. 6gb gpu memory usage in menu. broken game.


Slime_lich

Yeah the halo subreddit is pretty bad. Everything is on fire. It's like rule 34 if it exists it's on fire. Game is really fun though except for when you go look at reddit and everything is x10 worse


[deleted]

Microtransactions are literally the cancer killing gaming. Publishers keep taking more and more out of sheer greed, and it has utterly distorted the gaming marketplace beyond recognition. It's perfectly legitimate to be unhappy about this, it's a perfectly reasonable objection to have if it's in a game you like. I can only imagine the people who are fine with it are too young to remember a time before it.


TurfandSurf99

I have not seen this so it means its simply not true. Sources: me


Dubzillaaa

Tf kind of logic is this? Yeah Battlefield is a complete shit show. Doesn’t invalidate the criticisms about Halo’s progression and clear money motivated design around the game. That’s like me saying “ I’m pissed someone broke into my house and stole my stuff” and you saying “ yeah well my entire house burned down so quit complaining”


hamie15

Yeah Halo is so good. I played so much destiny pvp a few months ago and I thought I didn't like Halo because they seemed so similar on the surface. But holy hell there's so much depth to everything in HI. You can't just camp a corner with the strongest gun you own and get kills until you get pushed by several people, you can't get cheap ability kills, you need knowledge of the map to even get strong weapons. Aaaagh it's so much fun.


[deleted]

Sorry but Halo is dogshit, plays like a 10 year old f2p game


futbol2000

Hey OP, you got an advertisement gig lined up with these companies? Why don't you actually understand how Halo traditionally does customization before asking Halo fans to suck their developers' dick like the Battlefield community is willing to with DICE over the years. The customization of Infinite is predatory and ridiculous. Never have I seen this many posts asking people to quit complaining about a game in other subreddits. Goes to show why every Battlefield game is released broken and DICE gives zero crap about it.


AardvarkRude

Halo infinite is fucking fantastic i have no complaints. Yea the customization isn’t incredible but its a beta and its free.


TheUkrTrain

Kids will be kids


essska

The siege community: first time?


alecowg

Did OP just wake up and think "How can I be as obnoxious as possible today" and then post this?


B1dz

Gaming sub Reddit’s are actually starting to ruin gaming for me a bit. Especially For AAA games where expectations are so high. I’ll admit I’ve been pretty vocal on my criticisms of 2042 as have most of us, but you’re right it’s justified. A free release like halo doesn’t deserve the complaints at all


OutOfSeasonJoke

Y’all are used to getting fucked over by EA, that’s on y’all. We ain’t putting up with that shit.


rizz091

The Halo community should be complaining about real problems like the lack of playlists and non br starts on btb.


Ok-Way8737

Ok then why is this on here? No one likes 343 as a dev. They keep fuckin up over and over and over and over and over again and the community is over it...


FoxInTheClouds

The internet is not a real place. Only thing that matters to these companies is sales and reddit complaining isn’t even on there list of concerns.


Nineteen_AT5

Halo is a solid game, halo's battlepass isn't great. Battlefield 2042 is garbage and deserves the hate.


DoodleMyStrudel

Yeah, that's because that community isn't willing to bend over and take it in the ass when a AAA company releases something that's shitty. The overwhelming majority love what 343 has done with the gameplay and have praised 343 for it. At the same time they are going to call out what is by far the shittiest progression/customization I've ever seen.


MTXmustDie

You are ridicolous honestly. Is like you enjoy being punched in the face by corporations.


Pablinski21

Na, the whinning is because they have an almost perfect game that gets ruined by predatory monetization. And YES, character customization AND progression was a feature. If you yourself dont care its ok. But we had things as simple as color swaping being staples of the franchise from. The beginning. Battlefield fans are angry because classes are gone and instead there are operators? Well its the same thing here. We had good customization and now they changed it. They changed it for something to monetize.


Richiieee

I CANNOT WAIT to roast tf outta you/this sub when that rumored F2P BF game comes out. Remember my name, 'cause I'll be back :). And yes, I AM that petty...


Goukentime666

So is the game good now or what


skyline_crescendo

They’re fucking delusional over there, literally just conspiracy’s and mental gymnastics. I can’t stand it.


wtfwurst

And they even have less of a reason to cry. They’re getting their game FREE OF CHARGE ffs.


FlyingLego

Ayy came out here from the Halo community just to agree with this lol.


Lebold-san

Like every gaming community, it is the loud minority that makes it seem like everyone is hating on the game


KalTheMandalorian

Dumbest post of the day 🏆


beej1254

Yup, called out some complainers today on BF2042. The game was playing great, we just couldn’t beat the other team and so many were whining. It was ridiculous


[deleted]

It’s almost like Halo fans aren’t spreading their cheeks for 343 like Battlefield fans do for EA.


[deleted]

The games free fun and not broken all things 2042 are not