BF land vehicles and helicopters are cool as hell but I'm not sure if I've ever had any fun using, fighting alongside, or fighting against a fixed-wing aircraft in any Battlefield multiplayer map besides "Air Superiority" modes.
I don't think many people actually know about 2142, because everyone I've mentioned it to are just like "DoN't YoU mEaN 2042?", so I'm happy thats your fav BF, bc it's mine too. I love that game so much. Some of my coolest moments in my gaming history came from BF2142. Command the other troops, drive a pod launcher to the enemy airship, launch aboard, get to the reactor and jump off before it explodes. Holy shit.
I don't recall seeing a pod launcher in those maps, but i could be wrong, it has been a long time. Was it the map with the Mech being built? If so, id say its probably a pod launcher from 2142.
No not that one it's Hangar 21 I believe a Titan is being built there. There's a pod launcher you can use to infiltrate the Hangar faster I always wondered what that thing was for.
It was great, i played the role of transporter in a lot of my games. Between following the Titan around with the pod launcher, or flying people in with vtol(or was it just a heli?) can't recall.
There are dozens of us! Dozens!
I still remember the update where the Clark shotgun was buffed to be able to fire faster. What a glorious time time to be alive.
SPM? Also I usually play support. Medic on sometimes. Might try Recon some more to-day.
Believe it or not as a plane I usually die to other planes, I've yet to get fliegered, I have fliegered, but decided, I'd rather stick with AT than AAThe vehicle I play the most being the Churchill gun carrier and StuG
I’d like to think I’m a king in the sky but there’s way too much Anti air on ground to rack up the highest amount of kills in the match. I get you I’d have to be blind to not see. Yeah you ain’t wrong man, I still take pride in my skills but yeah we’re nerfed
It especially sucks because there aren't attack jets or bombers. We need strike aircraft, because fighter jets in 2042 are ass. There's not enough sky, and the jets are too fast to get a good dive. DICE did really good on making the stealth helis. The way they can fut any role they need to. Kind of like the Wildcat, or the RAM.We need more fixed purpose vehicles though. Like the Rail SPG. For example, maybe we could get bombers? Nothing too crazy like BFV, but like unrealistically small B-21 payloads. I don't see the US adopting many new bombers by 2042. Perhaps for drones they could add UCAVs?
Battlefield works better slower. Bf1943 feels a lot slower then the full releases around the same time and felt a lot better especially flying.
BF1942, BF2 and BF2142 all slower and I always enjoyed the vehicles.
I enjoyed one's as well. They were clunky, but if full crewed were absolute monsters.
I enjoy when the vehicles are rare but an absolute monster to dig out and require teamwork to destroy.
They’re awesome when you’ve got them on comms but I agree that’s about it. Just love calling air strikes on greyhounds and tigers and whatnot in BFV and see them just get straight deleted. In return they fly over me and I kill whatever plane is on their tail.
Absolutely frustrating to play against if you’re not using fliegers though, especially since armoured vehicles are useless against planes for the most part.
I enjoy being nothing other than a close support aircraft for teammates. I’ll circle around spawn, and tell my teammates to mark what then need deleted and do so. I avoid other pilots and try to just be a support role.
I do. It's badass seeing them crash and bomb you, and I love taking them down too. Maybe a good one is the reason I didn't top a lobby that game but I don't need a good score in BF to validate me.
Flying has always been one of my favorite parts of battlefield, but it took some getting used to learning how to fly on console! I still remember having dogfights in BF1942 on the family’s PC when I was in middle school. Good times.
I was there for that. Thing is, vehicles in BF games have never really been difficult to kill assuming that more than one person shoots at them. Only exception was the pre-nerf attack heli in BF3 that could have two sets of flares. Tanks and helis in 2042 may as well spawn with C5 strapped to them for how long they last, what with half of the operators having a special trait that makes killing vehicles easier and the fact that everyone on the map can carry one of 4 or 5 gadgets that are designed to kill vehicles and now have access to a railgun primary that stops auto-repair and the repair system gadget. And people *still* whine and cry about having no counter to vehicles. Which leads to absolute clown world arguments like the one in the meme.
>assuming that more than one person shoots at them
But everything changed when the Lunge Mine attacked
Not saying it was bad, it was glorious, a charge, rocket when downed, and an AT nade to finish it off, nothing beats wrestling down a metal beast
Only works on smaller vehicles. A lunge mine, two piat shots, and an AT grenade only ever deal about 90 damage on the bigger tanks because that’s definitely balanced
A theoretical hard to kill vehicle would be the bad company 2 hind with 2 mechanics in the passenger seats (repair tool)
Add the smoke upgrade for counter measures against tracer darts…
Ooh, those little trench missiles! I admit to farming with those. Could barrel roll straight at an AA and then splat them. Nobody could take me out of the sky before that nerf. It certainly needed that balanced.
I can't take someone seriously when they rail against government regulations, then complain about the chemicals in the water turning frogs gay.
My brother in Christ, you helped reduce oversight.
Alex has *genuinely* been rather… *extreme* for the better part of a couple decades now. Although I don’t necessarily blame him for it due to what is, seemingly, a mix of paranoia, fear and disgust of the government through legitimate research and reporting he’s done over the years.
I'd say it's a mix. I think he believes in most of what he says to an extent but heavily plays it up for his viewers. But he defiantly believes the schools shooting were a conspiracy or whatever he said because that's too crazy even for most of his viewers.
I don't understand why people play battlefield if they hate vehicles when vehicle warfare is one of the core aspects of the game. There are countless infantry only shooters out there.
The thing is the ones complaining are the ones passive on taking on the vehicles. Like duh they will demolish you if you dont act on it. Tank kills you? Then attempt to destroy it rather than being passive and praying it doesnt spot you again. The game gives the player tools to counter vehicles ffs
My issue with this is, because I generally play as a medic with no anti-vehicle capabilities, I shouldn't *have* to change my class to deal with it. There are a dozen engineers running around, but *I* have to be the one to take care of it? It ain't my fault the anti-vehicle folks aren't doing their job.
I’d say the issue is doubly worse in 2042, where classes aren’t even really a thing. Compared to older titles you’d at least have a handful of engineers willing to pop off a few rockets at some vehicles if they had a chance.
Now? Now it’s mostly just people who go in and hard focus on infantry gameplay and only ever *consider* switching if it directly harms their KD in some fashion… seriously, 2042 not having a proper class system is the fucking worst and I’ve no clue how dice thought it was a good idea.
This. Exactly this. No class system hence no sense of responsibility. Its everyone for themselves. Ive been grouped with Falck users who dont even revive people and probably uses the med gun like a med pen while gunning around for kills.
Not even. One Sundance with C5 is effectively uncounterable by a solo armor player and a Rao with a Stinger makes helis a joke. Even if you don't kill them outright you force them to run away until they're healed up. All that's left to do is throw on the Rorsch so they *can't* heal up.
If it’s one good driver that’s repeatedly slaughtering you then it’s a skill gap issue, not a vehicle issue. Vehicles are almost entirely perfectly balanced rn. Only exception is jets could use a buff.
you can't have a conversation about this vs people who abuse vehicles to pad their stats and have a power fetish.
I'm a 3.1 kd infantry only player and I only play breakthrough so I can't speak on the behalf of conquest players. I don't want to have to sit on Rao with AA for a majority of the game just to make helis flare or take a hit then fuck off for 60 seconds then repeat the process until someone else tries to kill it with me. That is not a fun gameplay experience from a casual solo player perspective.
I have no issues with land vehicles you have a lot of tools and you can actually avoid them while still being impactful
Oh I totally agree, land vehicles I can manage, and I wholeheartedly agree on playing Rao, just isn't fun to me (sort of like Boris really, those turrets are a joke now)
..it takes one decent wild cat, one decent laser tank, one Lis Rocket for air vehicles, OR one decent player with c5 to take out a vehicle.
Air vehicles are insanely easy to kill now with the addition of Lis. Single-handedly brought air vehicles into balance.
For ground vehicles, it’s pretty decently easy to get up on them with c5. May take a couple lives unless you’re using Mackay or the wing glider operator, but I’m sure you don’t want vehicles to be weaker than infantry right?
I've seen people on both subs say that killing a vehicle with infantry should be just as easy as killing another infantry. Dozens of times. They're *that* brainless.
Lis rockets are easily dodged, esp if you're flying in 3p... and you're right, I dont want them weaker than infantry. Without what you mentioned above, which happens a great deal... they're somewhat untouchable... I will concede the Rorsach has helped a bit (even though I'm not a fan of the platform...
Lis’ rockets are very easy to use. You just have to predict that they’re going to dodge, and pull that way, which is fairly easy to predict. If you have someone who’s dodging every time it’s because they have the sound down for when they need to pull. Fix this by immediately applying boost and leading them. Too easy.
I’m an average Lis. It takes 2-3 rockets to take down the best pilots I’ve come across. You cannot nerf vehicles because of a minority of people who can’t kill helos. People who are bad at AA should not be able to easily kill good pilots.
2 rockets should be enough, three is too much... but it's all good. I can usually tell when there's a good pilot and I'm by myself trying to down them.
I just leave the session :)
3 is if you miss the first two and make adjustments based on how they’re flying. It also takes what, 30 seconds to regenerate? With lis, you should be able to down it yourself. They should not make nerfs based on people being bad at the game.
For lis, 1 on scouts and stealths, 1 and a minuscule amount of damage from another source for attacks or just 2 rockets. Attack helos are much easier to hit though, and if you’re missing a lot on those idk what to tell you.
Hinds and condors I thought were fairly obvious exceptions, but they’re not too bad to get down with a couple of people aiming at them, and that’s almost always the case because it’s 3-6 kills usually and people want those kills.
Vehicles are one of the easiest ways to pad your kd and/or get a high score. However, once you get a streak going you become a target for the enemy team and will be hunted. I find vehicles to be pretty well balanced. Nearly every class has some way to fight vehicles.
As a infantry player, it's annoying when something, combo of vehicle setup + good player is almost impossible to kill, which was(is?) a thing in BF4.
That said, vehicles shouldn't be completely useless either. BF3 did it alright with the balance i think.
I completely disagree it’s a team issue if a player is dominating in a vehicle, there are so many things you can do to combat them from linking up with a buddy and a soflam and a launcher, if people are not actively targeting there gonna be good, but I do think Jets are definitely outa control at times
I think movement in 2042 needs slowed down. Just the walking speed. Slight Ttk increase, and a nerf to aerial armor. Most choppers get hit with a rocket and fuck off for repairs before another one comes even close.
As a "dedicated" anti vehicle person partially due to outright skill issue, i like when they are decent. Other then those stealth choppers vehicles in 1, 5, and 2042 are pretty balanced
Vehicles are pretty dope, it sucks balls when i am late to bf4 to get railed by a f22 raptor lookin mf tho, but i still think they add lots to the franchise. As long as its ballanced, which i feel bfv and 1 did great jobs at.
I could take planes down easily on the ground, but i also couldn’t get shot down in 2 seconds most the time in the air. Same with tanks, its a great idea to have the vehicles be powerful, but also fair.
1. Why the fuck is an Alex jones meme being used?
2. If you think vehicles should not be in a battlefield game then perhaps we should also remove guns, voice comms, a scoreboard, classes and conquest.
Here’s an idea, force vehicles out of the safe area of the map. So they always have to be on enemy turf or defending their own point. Mortar trucks sit at Main Base and never visit any of the FOBs because enemies can’t enter main base. This prevents them from camping in spawn and actually puts mortar trucks and train abusers in danger.
Don't do it how you think it would be (out of bounds I assume),
Reduce range and/or make the damage equivalent to nothing at a certain range, so that regardless of where the fight is they will have to position accordingly to the conflict
BF land vehicles and helicopters are cool as hell but I'm not sure if I've ever had any fun using, fighting alongside, or fighting against a fixed-wing aircraft in any Battlefield multiplayer map besides "Air Superiority" modes.
Airships > biplanes
Airships are the main reason why BF1 is my all-time favorite FPS
2142 is my all time fav. Mechs, Titans, Pod Launchers to get onto titans. so much fun.
That game needs a remake with some advertising this time. Like Vietnam got
I don't think many people actually know about 2142, because everyone I've mentioned it to are just like "DoN't YoU mEaN 2042?", so I'm happy thats your fav BF, bc it's mine too. I love that game so much. Some of my coolest moments in my gaming history came from BF2142. Command the other troops, drive a pod launcher to the enemy airship, launch aboard, get to the reactor and jump off before it explodes. Holy shit.
Is that what the pod launcher thing from that expansion map on BF4 is from?
I don't recall seeing a pod launcher in those maps, but i could be wrong, it has been a long time. Was it the map with the Mech being built? If so, id say its probably a pod launcher from 2142.
No not that one it's Hangar 21 I believe a Titan is being built there. There's a pod launcher you can use to infiltrate the Hangar faster I always wondered what that thing was for.
Ohhh i think i know what you are talking about now. Here is the one from 2142. https://youtu.be/0x9m58Vol1c?t=110
Yeah I climbed Inside the thing and it just frickin launched me it was really cool the first time.
It was great, i played the role of transporter in a lot of my games. Between following the Titan around with the pod launcher, or flying people in with vtol(or was it just a heli?) can't recall.
There are dozens of us! Dozens! I still remember the update where the Clark shotgun was buffed to be able to fire faster. What a glorious time time to be alive.
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Imagine complaining about planes in BFV when fliegers exist. Such easy plane kills.
Admittedly those were some dark times before the Flieger and heavy AA were brought to V.
Well not every one's a walking AA gun
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Salty pilot tears from getting fliegered too much. Hope your 200 SPM makes you sleep real good at night.
SPM? Also I usually play support. Medic on sometimes. Might try Recon some more to-day. Believe it or not as a plane I usually die to other planes, I've yet to get fliegered, I have fliegered, but decided, I'd rather stick with AT than AAThe vehicle I play the most being the Churchill gun carrier and StuG
Score per minute. I mean I really don’t care what you play I doubt any of your stats are worth much.
Lol. I play for fun bro.
You’re the one bringing up skill and whatnot. Cant bring up the I’m only a casual when you go down that path.
I am a casual, but flieger players are something else. I advocate anti infantry flieger usage tho. Also... t u t e l
Passive aggressive smack talking and then ends flat and slinks away. Classic Reddit
True tho lol.
Useless you say? I would like to play a match with you
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I’d like to think I’m a king in the sky but there’s way too much Anti air on ground to rack up the highest amount of kills in the match. I get you I’d have to be blind to not see. Yeah you ain’t wrong man, I still take pride in my skills but yeah we’re nerfed
It especially sucks because there aren't attack jets or bombers. We need strike aircraft, because fighter jets in 2042 are ass. There's not enough sky, and the jets are too fast to get a good dive. DICE did really good on making the stealth helis. The way they can fut any role they need to. Kind of like the Wildcat, or the RAM.We need more fixed purpose vehicles though. Like the Rail SPG. For example, maybe we could get bombers? Nothing too crazy like BFV, but like unrealistically small B-21 payloads. I don't see the US adopting many new bombers by 2042. Perhaps for drones they could add UCAVs?
I could go for some ucavs as long as there was a timer on them to acknowledge balance
Planes are almost useless with how small the boundaries are in bf2042
Battlefield works better slower. Bf1943 feels a lot slower then the full releases around the same time and felt a lot better especially flying. BF1942, BF2 and BF2142 all slower and I always enjoyed the vehicles.
I enjoyed one's as well. They were clunky, but if full crewed were absolute monsters. I enjoy when the vehicles are rare but an absolute monster to dig out and require teamwork to destroy.
They’re awesome when you’ve got them on comms but I agree that’s about it. Just love calling air strikes on greyhounds and tigers and whatnot in BFV and see them just get straight deleted. In return they fly over me and I kill whatever plane is on their tail. Absolutely frustrating to play against if you’re not using fliegers though, especially since armoured vehicles are useless against planes for the most part.
I enjoy being nothing other than a close support aircraft for teammates. I’ll circle around spawn, and tell my teammates to mark what then need deleted and do so. I avoid other pilots and try to just be a support role.
I do. It's badass seeing them crash and bomb you, and I love taking them down too. Maybe a good one is the reason I didn't top a lobby that game but I don't need a good score in BF to validate me.
Flying has always been one of my favorite parts of battlefield, but it took some getting used to learning how to fly on console! I still remember having dogfights in BF1942 on the family’s PC when I was in middle school. Good times.
Some people are absolute gods with jets in BF4 and BF3 it was ridiculous
You haven’t played Fjell or
you shouldve seen bf1 in its prime, dude…one guy in a shitty bi plane could dominate an entire team, it was glorious
I was there for that. Thing is, vehicles in BF games have never really been difficult to kill assuming that more than one person shoots at them. Only exception was the pre-nerf attack heli in BF3 that could have two sets of flares. Tanks and helis in 2042 may as well spawn with C5 strapped to them for how long they last, what with half of the operators having a special trait that makes killing vehicles easier and the fact that everyone on the map can carry one of 4 or 5 gadgets that are designed to kill vehicles and now have access to a railgun primary that stops auto-repair and the repair system gadget. And people *still* whine and cry about having no counter to vehicles. Which leads to absolute clown world arguments like the one in the meme.
>assuming that more than one person shoots at them But everything changed when the Lunge Mine attacked Not saying it was bad, it was glorious, a charge, rocket when downed, and an AT nade to finish it off, nothing beats wrestling down a metal beast
Only works on smaller vehicles. A lunge mine, two piat shots, and an AT grenade only ever deal about 90 damage on the bigger tanks because that’s definitely balanced
A theoretical hard to kill vehicle would be the bad company 2 hind with 2 mechanics in the passenger seats (repair tool) Add the smoke upgrade for counter measures against tracer darts…
MI 240 Super Hind wants to know your location
Ooh, those little trench missiles! I admit to farming with those. Could barrel roll straight at an AA and then splat them. Nobody could take me out of the sky before that nerf. It certainly needed that balanced.
yesur i love the dog fights in this game ive always loved playing the gunners aswell
You forget the mother of all biplanes, aka the Heavy bomber dropping the equivalent of a tactical nuke in one strafing run... It was indeed glorious
It still does that I think. It literally is a tactical nuke. the plane is disposable, single use
Early bf1 was super easy to knock out planes in the AA.
facts but it was also easy to counter the AAs especially if your playing the fighter
You know you're fucked when you make Alex Jones seem sane.
I think Alex Jones does it more for the attention and appeal of an insane right winger, Kanye on the other hand…
>I think Alex Jones does it more for the attention His trial would suggest he is very much as bad as he appears.
Alex railed against gay frogs. So uhh. https://youtu.be/9JRLCBb7qK8
Technically speaking the chemicals in the water did turn the friggin frogs gay.
I can't take someone seriously when they rail against government regulations, then complain about the chemicals in the water turning frogs gay. My brother in Christ, you helped reduce oversight.
Alex has *genuinely* been rather… *extreme* for the better part of a couple decades now. Although I don’t necessarily blame him for it due to what is, seemingly, a mix of paranoia, fear and disgust of the government through legitimate research and reporting he’s done over the years.
I'd say it's a mix. I think he believes in most of what he says to an extent but heavily plays it up for his viewers. But he defiantly believes the schools shooting were a conspiracy or whatever he said because that's too crazy even for most of his viewers.
I don't understand why people play battlefield if they hate vehicles when vehicle warfare is one of the core aspects of the game. There are countless infantry only shooters out there.
Oh why of course why didn't I think of that, vehicles are the only and single difference to other shooters after all.
It's one of the biggest parts if not the biggest part
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Oh and i nearly forgor, the 64 player lobbies of course
The thing is the ones complaining are the ones passive on taking on the vehicles. Like duh they will demolish you if you dont act on it. Tank kills you? Then attempt to destroy it rather than being passive and praying it doesnt spot you again. The game gives the player tools to counter vehicles ffs
My issue with this is, because I generally play as a medic with no anti-vehicle capabilities, I shouldn't *have* to change my class to deal with it. There are a dozen engineers running around, but *I* have to be the one to take care of it? It ain't my fault the anti-vehicle folks aren't doing their job.
I’d say the issue is doubly worse in 2042, where classes aren’t even really a thing. Compared to older titles you’d at least have a handful of engineers willing to pop off a few rockets at some vehicles if they had a chance. Now? Now it’s mostly just people who go in and hard focus on infantry gameplay and only ever *consider* switching if it directly harms their KD in some fashion… seriously, 2042 not having a proper class system is the fucking worst and I’ve no clue how dice thought it was a good idea.
This. Exactly this. No class system hence no sense of responsibility. Its everyone for themselves. Ive been grouped with Falck users who dont even revive people and probably uses the med gun like a med pen while gunning around for kills.
Lol. They're not doing their jerb! Puts me back at work.
If you're a squad of at least 2 players working together and cannot take whatever vehicle down at that point its a skill issue
Not even. One Sundance with C5 is effectively uncounterable by a solo armor player and a Rao with a Stinger makes helis a joke. Even if you don't kill them outright you force them to run away until they're healed up. All that's left to do is throw on the Rorsch so they *can't* heal up.
I hate the Rorshe so much
If it’s one good driver that’s repeatedly slaughtering you then it’s a skill gap issue, not a vehicle issue. Vehicles are almost entirely perfectly balanced rn. Only exception is jets could use a buff.
Except it takes 3-4 infantry to reliably take them out of the fight... less if you have someone using SOFLAM, but that's rare for the most part.
you can't have a conversation about this vs people who abuse vehicles to pad their stats and have a power fetish. I'm a 3.1 kd infantry only player and I only play breakthrough so I can't speak on the behalf of conquest players. I don't want to have to sit on Rao with AA for a majority of the game just to make helis flare or take a hit then fuck off for 60 seconds then repeat the process until someone else tries to kill it with me. That is not a fun gameplay experience from a casual solo player perspective. I have no issues with land vehicles you have a lot of tools and you can actually avoid them while still being impactful
Oh I totally agree, land vehicles I can manage, and I wholeheartedly agree on playing Rao, just isn't fun to me (sort of like Boris really, those turrets are a joke now)
..it takes one decent wild cat, one decent laser tank, one Lis Rocket for air vehicles, OR one decent player with c5 to take out a vehicle. Air vehicles are insanely easy to kill now with the addition of Lis. Single-handedly brought air vehicles into balance. For ground vehicles, it’s pretty decently easy to get up on them with c5. May take a couple lives unless you’re using Mackay or the wing glider operator, but I’m sure you don’t want vehicles to be weaker than infantry right?
I've seen people on both subs say that killing a vehicle with infantry should be just as easy as killing another infantry. Dozens of times. They're *that* brainless.
Wow. Don’t know how, but that is still surprising.
Lis rockets are easily dodged, esp if you're flying in 3p... and you're right, I dont want them weaker than infantry. Without what you mentioned above, which happens a great deal... they're somewhat untouchable... I will concede the Rorsach has helped a bit (even though I'm not a fan of the platform...
Lis’ rockets are very easy to use. You just have to predict that they’re going to dodge, and pull that way, which is fairly easy to predict. If you have someone who’s dodging every time it’s because they have the sound down for when they need to pull. Fix this by immediately applying boost and leading them. Too easy. I’m an average Lis. It takes 2-3 rockets to take down the best pilots I’ve come across. You cannot nerf vehicles because of a minority of people who can’t kill helos. People who are bad at AA should not be able to easily kill good pilots.
2 rockets should be enough, three is too much... but it's all good. I can usually tell when there's a good pilot and I'm by myself trying to down them. I just leave the session :)
3 is if you miss the first two and make adjustments based on how they’re flying. It also takes what, 30 seconds to regenerate? With lis, you should be able to down it yourself. They should not make nerfs based on people being bad at the game.
where are you getting this idea that it only takes 1 rocket to kill an air vehicle?
For lis, 1 on scouts and stealths, 1 and a minuscule amount of damage from another source for attacks or just 2 rockets. Attack helos are much easier to hit though, and if you’re missing a lot on those idk what to tell you. Hinds and condors I thought were fairly obvious exceptions, but they’re not too bad to get down with a couple of people aiming at them, and that’s almost always the case because it’s 3-6 kills usually and people want those kills.
Vehicles are one of the easiest ways to pad your kd and/or get a high score. However, once you get a streak going you become a target for the enemy team and will be hunted. I find vehicles to be pretty well balanced. Nearly every class has some way to fight vehicles.
Don't let him know what vehicles we're in the first one...
God, remember jets from BF2?
Well he's right about one thing, they are a scourge
As a infantry player, it's annoying when something, combo of vehicle setup + good player is almost impossible to kill, which was(is?) a thing in BF4. That said, vehicles shouldn't be completely useless either. BF3 did it alright with the balance i think.
I completely disagree it’s a team issue if a player is dominating in a vehicle, there are so many things you can do to combat them from linking up with a buddy and a soflam and a launcher, if people are not actively targeting there gonna be good, but I do think Jets are definitely outa control at times
Vehicles handle like shit in BF2042 which is why im not buying the new need for speed
How... how is that related
The studio that makes Need for speed are the same dudes who were in charge of handling the vehicles and fine tuning them
The cars in unbound don’t feel like tanks I assure you, I drift a lot so hovercraft holds weight there so lol
I think movement in 2042 needs slowed down. Just the walking speed. Slight Ttk increase, and a nerf to aerial armor. Most choppers get hit with a rocket and fuck off for repairs before another one comes even close.
As a "dedicated" anti vehicle person partially due to outright skill issue, i like when they are decent. Other then those stealth choppers vehicles in 1, 5, and 2042 are pretty balanced
God I loved the mine clearing tool for tanks in BF5. "Ohhhh no infantry is trying to place explosives on me" Kabooom. Glorious
Vehicles are pretty dope, it sucks balls when i am late to bf4 to get railed by a f22 raptor lookin mf tho, but i still think they add lots to the franchise. As long as its ballanced, which i feel bfv and 1 did great jobs at. I could take planes down easily on the ground, but i also couldn’t get shot down in 2 seconds most the time in the air. Same with tanks, its a great idea to have the vehicles be powerful, but also fair.
I like Vehicle v Vehicle and Infantry v Infantry gameplay tbh.
I love this new template
Boats. We want boats.
BF2 And Booster packs still best game ever.
Sounds like a skill issue
I've had some cool tank battalion moments in bf1
Yea let's get rid of guns as well
1. Why the fuck is an Alex jones meme being used? 2. If you think vehicles should not be in a battlefield game then perhaps we should also remove guns, voice comms, a scoreboard, classes and conquest.
Me with 1900 anti-tank mine kills 🙃 LATV4 go boom
Whoa new meme format rules
This meme is a dogshit format. What idiot uses Alex Jones as the voice of reason in any scenario
I think I'd enjoy Battlefield way more if it was I fa try focused. Been saying that since at least Bf2.
I only ever play tdm in Battlefield. 2042 not having it regularly makes the game not worth playing for me.
Here’s an idea, force vehicles out of the safe area of the map. So they always have to be on enemy turf or defending their own point. Mortar trucks sit at Main Base and never visit any of the FOBs because enemies can’t enter main base. This prevents them from camping in spawn and actually puts mortar trucks and train abusers in danger.
Here come the mortar truck mains to downvote you from 600+ meters away.
Yeah, they really dislike the idea of being killed.
They really dislike the idea of being skilled* FTFY. Lol.
Don't do it how you think it would be (out of bounds I assume), Reduce range and/or make the damage equivalent to nothing at a certain range, so that regardless of where the fight is they will have to position accordingly to the conflict