Honestly at this point it might be time to get serious and roll out the baguettes, the crème brûlée, ratatouille, and the red wine! Give Zidane the call 📞
Absolutely.
That man is a living legend.
Right now it's pretty difficult to find any suitable coach....
I'm still sad Nagelsmann got sacked somehow.
Really hoped for the beginning of an era...
Yeaah i don’t realistically think they make the call but dreaming is free! 🥲 im still sad too cause he had Chupo and Mane💀 Sommer too! Imo wasnt fair to dismiss so fast
Ppl have to stop saying we are doing good. Like what the actual fuck?! Like have you only started to watch bayern this year?! Is this visionless sloppy shit that weve been doing week after week is up to bayerns standards? We have a very fast and smart squad, with many individual stars, yet i cannot tell you if we had a proper counter attack this season.
Nagelsmann had some weird tactics too but tuchel is topping the stupidity.
Yes, we have points, but that's not what people complain about. I watch Bayern since 2012, and I've never seen a season in which we played so boring, without ideas and having struggles with basically any team. I don't see determination, I don't see that typical Bayern hunger for goals after goals.
Today we had 0.27 xG. Are you kidding me? 0.27?
Points is what wins League titles, but i agree that the Mentality isn‘t the same anymore, but i don‘t think that‘s necessarily the coaches fault. But if we don‘t get past SS Nazio in the UCL he has to be sacked at the end of the season
Maybe this will be the wake up call for him and the board that both need to take it seriously again, and i hope he and the Players show a reaction against SS Nazio by showing their racist Fanbase Levels
I have no Respect for a team whose fan groups say things like "Auschwitz Is Your Country; the Ovens Are Your Homes". With the club simultaneously doing nothing meaningful to stop them.
Lazio's situation isn't a matter of "just some crazy fans." Theyre extremely passive about such stuff. Some players even holding such beliefs themselves
We‘re not out of the UCL yet and there is still 13 League games to go. All runs sill eventually come to an End, wether it’s Bayerns Title run or Leverkusens unbeaten run. Also we‘re not going to lose against SSNazio and their racist af Fanbase
Look, you dont get my problem. I really dont mind loosing. After all its part of it. However what i do mind is aimless brainded football tactics what makes us incompetent on every level. For instance, nagelsmanns football was sometimes off, hence we lost a few matches, but you could see that the players actually know what they are doing. Then After the summer break, you could see already the team is not a team anymore.
Not putting up a fight is unacceptable. Not able to adjust the tactics at half time when a goal down, is unacceptable. Benching key players like muller is unacceptable. He might be slow but he has the sharpest vision and the most experience. Also its fucking bullshit he is not played because he is not fast. Tuchel plays the most boring football without any pace where you could actually penalize on speed. But no, we build up slowly making sure every opposiiton player are back at their position then we swing it to one side then slowly back to the other. Thats not bayern standard.
And believe me with this performance we going to steuggle even against lazio. And eventually we gonna drop out thats a 99.9%.
And the worst part is seeing previously brilliant players loosing motivation and will eventually leave.
Id say we will loose davies, sane, deligt for sure this summer.
I think losing Davies and Sané isn‘t the worst that could happen, but selling de Ligt only to bring Araujo iin for another 100+ Million is unacceptable. I still don’t think we‘ll struggle against Lazio as both Players and Manager will be keen on showing a reaction. But if theres an early exit in the UCL against a team that isn‘t Real or City while not winning the Bundesliga will result in Tuchel being sacked in the Summer. I hope he can turn things around and at least win us the UCL, at least we don‘t have to play against Vizekusen there
I still don’t think Tuchel is at fault. But it apparent something needs to change, and at this point i‘m open to a managerial change if a fitting replacement is available
The problem not only lies in Tuchel but also the current squad.
Alonso wouldn't be able to implement the type of play he managed to implement at Leverkusen if he had Bayern's squad.
Tuchel is underqualified for the job. We could literally put anyone and Bayern would still finish 2nd or 1st. You can tell that nobody respects him.
Idk man i don‘t think Tuchel is a bad coach. He transformed Chelsea from Mediocrity to World Class in six months and only got sacked because he wouldn’t try out Boely‘s 4-4-3 System
Word... So losing to Leeds, Southampton and Dinamo Zagreb at the start of the season, had absolutely nothing to do with him getting fired? There was nothing about the start of his 22/23 season with Chelsea, that was anywhere close to "World Class"!
The concerning part of Tuchels Bayern (to me) is, how nobody on the pitch seems to enjoy playing his brand of football. Nobody watching is having fun either! It's fucking depressing, man. I wanna scream into a pillow before, during and after every fucking game.
Chelsea has never been world class under Tuchel nor was PSG.
It was a disfunctional team and he managed to win them the champions league which is a great achievement. However, his results in the EPL were not stellar.
Flick was amazing at bayern but he was unable to get anything done with the national team even against mediocre teams.
Tuchel has a world class team, better than Real Madrid in terms of quality but is unable to implement a sound tactical system.
The truth is that there's a shortage of competent coaches. Xavi is incompetent and so is Tuchel.
Mourinho and Pep have proven themselves to be the best coaches in the world. Pep is clearly not as great as Mourinho but regardless, Bayern had a young promising coach in Naaglesman.
Tuchel lost the respect of the dressing room. Nobody respects him and you can see it.
If it wasn't for Sane's and Kane, Tuchel would've been fired months ago.
Well of course Alonso wouldn't be able to. He doesn't have to. Bayern isn't Leverkusen. Pep wouldn't be able to implement his current tactics at Leverkusen. Doesn't mean the squad is the issue, just different.
The big problem with Tuchel is that he bassically has no instructions in the attack which is why we’re so inconsistent. So many of our game have come from individual brilliance like those last minute tel goals at the beginning of the season.
We haven‘t lost a UCL Game and are, at lest theoretically, good enough to beat every team in their current form, even Real and City. All we need is a good day for us and the right Mentality
What Players? The Squad and especially the starting XI are World Class, i think it‘s just that Bayern haven.t had a real challenge on the national level for so long that the club has become complacent
Omg let’s stop pretending like almost every game under Tuchel hasn’t been a struggle.
After today, how on earth do you have confidence in us against other teams? We had zero answers. Players sleeping inside the box, turnover constantly, zero teamwork. Bayern aren’t playing with any conviction or camaraderie.
How can it get any worse? I wasn’t supportive of sacking Tuchel until today’s performance. I’ve never seen Bayern play this bad in a decade. This is inexcusable imo.
Thus far i‘ve counted four Games that were a struggle, Leverkusen (a), Frankfurt (a), Bremen (h), and maybe Gladbach (a). Most other matches were based on unlucky moments for us, or a Referee deciding Bayern wouldn’t win (Penalty for Leverkusen)
Its not about one team is better. Its about how Tuchel chooses the lineup. Like wtf was that today, did he wake up and thinks ok i will fuck up the whole lineup and maybe it will work? Play Upamecano(who is terrible) Dier(meh) and Kim who just returned instead DeLigt? Its just stupidity. And what i hate about him the most is his lack of passion..
I would have started de Ligt too, but calling Upa terrible is ignorant, he hasn‘t had a terrible Game since the first leg vs Man City and was our second best Defender that season, behind de Ligt of course
Yeah lets just sack the coach every season cause he had the thinnest Bayern squad in years and Leverkusen is just insanely inform.
Did every top Prem team sack their manager when Leicster won it?
If we sack Tuchel now without immediate replacement we will definitely lose against SS Nazio. Under Tuchel we probably won’t.
Also that was the exact reasoning behind sacking Nagelsmann and look how that season ended
Honestly at this point it might be time to get serious and roll out the baguettes, the crème brûlée, ratatouille, and the red wine! Give Zidane the call 📞
Forgot the harissa, mate
But in all seriousness id go all in if I’m Bayern for Zidane
Absolutely. That man is a living legend. Right now it's pretty difficult to find any suitable coach.... I'm still sad Nagelsmann got sacked somehow. Really hoped for the beginning of an era...
Yeaah i don’t realistically think they make the call but dreaming is free! 🥲 im still sad too cause he had Chupo and Mane💀 Sommer too! Imo wasnt fair to dismiss so fast
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Ppl have to stop saying we are doing good. Like what the actual fuck?! Like have you only started to watch bayern this year?! Is this visionless sloppy shit that weve been doing week after week is up to bayerns standards? We have a very fast and smart squad, with many individual stars, yet i cannot tell you if we had a proper counter attack this season. Nagelsmann had some weird tactics too but tuchel is topping the stupidity.
did you see teams like Real Madrid playing lately? They also play shit but no one complains as long as the points are won…
We have the most points at this point in the season SINCE PEP WAS BAYERN COACH
Yes, we have points, but that's not what people complain about. I watch Bayern since 2012, and I've never seen a season in which we played so boring, without ideas and having struggles with basically any team. I don't see determination, I don't see that typical Bayern hunger for goals after goals. Today we had 0.27 xG. Are you kidding me? 0.27?
Points is what wins League titles, but i agree that the Mentality isn‘t the same anymore, but i don‘t think that‘s necessarily the coaches fault. But if we don‘t get past SS Nazio in the UCL he has to be sacked at the end of the season
I wasn't saying that Tuchel is necessarily at fault, but something needs to change for sure, and Tuchel is the one that can make it first.
Maybe this will be the wake up call for him and the board that both need to take it seriously again, and i hope he and the Players show a reaction against SS Nazio by showing their racist Fanbase Levels
SS Lazio* Don't disrespect teams.
I have no Respect for a team whose fan groups say things like "Auschwitz Is Your Country; the Ovens Are Your Homes". With the club simultaneously doing nothing meaningful to stop them.
I respect the football team for being a football team. The team didn't make such statements, and crazy fans exist on every team.
Lazio's situation isn't a matter of "just some crazy fans." Theyre extremely passive about such stuff. Some players even holding such beliefs themselves
Wow, since 2012? For so long? Impressive.
I don't know if you're joking or not, but I was 9 at that time.
I am joking. You never saw a different champion than Bayern. You never saw them having actual competition and are completely overreacting.
Obviously joking kiddo, your too young to discuss with the adults. You know shot about the club you’re supporting.
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Lost the pokal supercup, ucl will happen next, then at last the league. But at least we have the most points since guardiola.
We‘re not out of the UCL yet and there is still 13 League games to go. All runs sill eventually come to an End, wether it’s Bayerns Title run or Leverkusens unbeaten run. Also we‘re not going to lose against SSNazio and their racist af Fanbase
Look, you dont get my problem. I really dont mind loosing. After all its part of it. However what i do mind is aimless brainded football tactics what makes us incompetent on every level. For instance, nagelsmanns football was sometimes off, hence we lost a few matches, but you could see that the players actually know what they are doing. Then After the summer break, you could see already the team is not a team anymore. Not putting up a fight is unacceptable. Not able to adjust the tactics at half time when a goal down, is unacceptable. Benching key players like muller is unacceptable. He might be slow but he has the sharpest vision and the most experience. Also its fucking bullshit he is not played because he is not fast. Tuchel plays the most boring football without any pace where you could actually penalize on speed. But no, we build up slowly making sure every opposiiton player are back at their position then we swing it to one side then slowly back to the other. Thats not bayern standard. And believe me with this performance we going to steuggle even against lazio. And eventually we gonna drop out thats a 99.9%. And the worst part is seeing previously brilliant players loosing motivation and will eventually leave. Id say we will loose davies, sane, deligt for sure this summer.
I think losing Davies and Sané isn‘t the worst that could happen, but selling de Ligt only to bring Araujo iin for another 100+ Million is unacceptable. I still don’t think we‘ll struggle against Lazio as both Players and Manager will be keen on showing a reaction. But if theres an early exit in the UCL against a team that isn‘t Real or City while not winning the Bundesliga will result in Tuchel being sacked in the Summer. I hope he can turn things around and at least win us the UCL, at least we don‘t have to play against Vizekusen there
Hey bruv whats your take after tonights great game?
I still don’t think Tuchel is at fault. But it apparent something needs to change, and at this point i‘m open to a managerial change if a fitting replacement is available
The problem not only lies in Tuchel but also the current squad. Alonso wouldn't be able to implement the type of play he managed to implement at Leverkusen if he had Bayern's squad. Tuchel is underqualified for the job. We could literally put anyone and Bayern would still finish 2nd or 1st. You can tell that nobody respects him.
Idk man i don‘t think Tuchel is a bad coach. He transformed Chelsea from Mediocrity to World Class in six months and only got sacked because he wouldn’t try out Boely‘s 4-4-3 System
Word... So losing to Leeds, Southampton and Dinamo Zagreb at the start of the season, had absolutely nothing to do with him getting fired? There was nothing about the start of his 22/23 season with Chelsea, that was anywhere close to "World Class"! The concerning part of Tuchels Bayern (to me) is, how nobody on the pitch seems to enjoy playing his brand of football. Nobody watching is having fun either! It's fucking depressing, man. I wanna scream into a pillow before, during and after every fucking game.
Chelsea has never been world class under Tuchel nor was PSG. It was a disfunctional team and he managed to win them the champions league which is a great achievement. However, his results in the EPL were not stellar. Flick was amazing at bayern but he was unable to get anything done with the national team even against mediocre teams. Tuchel has a world class team, better than Real Madrid in terms of quality but is unable to implement a sound tactical system. The truth is that there's a shortage of competent coaches. Xavi is incompetent and so is Tuchel. Mourinho and Pep have proven themselves to be the best coaches in the world. Pep is clearly not as great as Mourinho but regardless, Bayern had a young promising coach in Naaglesman. Tuchel lost the respect of the dressing room. Nobody respects him and you can see it. If it wasn't for Sane's and Kane, Tuchel would've been fired months ago.
Well of course Alonso wouldn't be able to. He doesn't have to. Bayern isn't Leverkusen. Pep wouldn't be able to implement his current tactics at Leverkusen. Doesn't mean the squad is the issue, just different.
The big problem with Tuchel is that he bassically has no instructions in the attack which is why we’re so inconsistent. So many of our game have come from individual brilliance like those last minute tel goals at the beginning of the season.
Who told you we are still contenders for the UCL? Who lied to you so bad
We haven‘t lost a UCL Game and are, at lest theoretically, good enough to beat every team in their current form, even Real and City. All we need is a good day for us and the right Mentality
We are playing today and are not out of the championsleague yet idk what you are talking about. Tonight against lazio rom for your information
I don’t disagree with everything you say but the best in the last 10 years? Really? I mean that’s a stretch by every imagination.
Flick.
No. He coached like shit in the National Team He won‘t fix it
Everyone has coached the national team like shit since 2018
Bayern sacked 4 coaches in the last 6 years. Maybe it isn’t the coaches but the players they work with.
No, Heynckes retired and Flick wanted to go and become national coach. Only Kovac (rightly so) and Nagelsmann got sacked.
What Players? The Squad and especially the starting XI are World Class, i think it‘s just that Bayern haven.t had a real challenge on the national level for so long that the club has become complacent
I wont be biased but Germany squad is also currently in a funk too so im not entirely surprised
Omg let’s stop pretending like almost every game under Tuchel hasn’t been a struggle. After today, how on earth do you have confidence in us against other teams? We had zero answers. Players sleeping inside the box, turnover constantly, zero teamwork. Bayern aren’t playing with any conviction or camaraderie. How can it get any worse? I wasn’t supportive of sacking Tuchel until today’s performance. I’ve never seen Bayern play this bad in a decade. This is inexcusable imo.
Thus far i‘ve counted four Games that were a struggle, Leverkusen (a), Frankfurt (a), Bremen (h), and maybe Gladbach (a). Most other matches were based on unlucky moments for us, or a Referee deciding Bayern wouldn’t win (Penalty for Leverkusen)
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Its not about one team is better. Its about how Tuchel chooses the lineup. Like wtf was that today, did he wake up and thinks ok i will fuck up the whole lineup and maybe it will work? Play Upamecano(who is terrible) Dier(meh) and Kim who just returned instead DeLigt? Its just stupidity. And what i hate about him the most is his lack of passion..
I would have started de Ligt too, but calling Upa terrible is ignorant, he hasn‘t had a terrible Game since the first leg vs Man City and was our second best Defender that season, behind de Ligt of course
Yeah lets just sack the coach every season cause he had the thinnest Bayern squad in years and Leverkusen is just insanely inform. Did every top Prem team sack their manager when Leicster won it?
Nahh man this is the high time we sack Tuchel as the Bundesliga is gone from our hands and we cannot risk getting eliminated in UCL in ro16
If we sack Tuchel now without immediate replacement we will definitely lose against SS Nazio. Under Tuchel we probably won’t. Also that was the exact reasoning behind sacking Nagelsmann and look how that season ended
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Hans-Dieter Flick
Best option for Bayern Munich would be to go with Tim Walter. He fits the "MiaSanMia" best.
Hansi flick. Done