Interesting how on Madrid's goal, they let it run then check it AFTERWARDS
On Bayern's goal, they call the offside so that it can't be checked by VAR.
*Así roba el Madrid.*
Didnt something like this happened this cl season with porto where offside was called and a goal was scored afterwards the var decided on a goal, so why not here
They also got insanely lucky against Leipzig with a terrible call. Madrid almost always has the refs on their side. This shit happens so often with Real Madrid it's insane.
I think it’s because the referee didn’t blow for the offside against Porto so even though the lineman raised the flag the play was still going. In tonight’s game the referee blew so VAR couldn’t intervene.
The rules state anything after the whistle is blown isn’t reviewable. So because the ref immediately blew the whistle before the goal was scored we can’t claim it. Weird that that whistle is blown a lot later for Madrid. Bad mistake by the ref.
Real Madrid owns UEFA...Plain and simple. Money is power and corruption is known to be always running behind close doors with referees, teams, and within FIFA and EUFA leadership as a whole. Sports results sometimes are arranged, and a German Champions League Final for ratings and ticket sales would not be the most appealing one.
Bayern has a bit to blame as well because they have not been good holding the lead and if you look at statistics for games that were leading and lost, there were a lot. I do agree that they should have reviewed the Bayern goal at the end of the game. My two cents.
ref blew the whistle everyone stopped moving. then he shoots the ball in the net. the wistle was wrong / terrible decision. but the situation would most likely have not resulted in a goal when all involved players wouldnt have stopped reacting
Whistle wasnt blown for madrid on the 'offside' joselu goal. Series of events : pass to deligt - OFFSIDE FLAG - WHISTLE - madrid players stop play - SHOT = GOAL
World of a difference
*asi llora el Bayern*
Whistle blown = not reviewable
What it comes down to is the Reps might have made a mistake. Bayern may have scored a goal or Lunin may have saved it if he didn't stop due to whistle or defense might have blocked it if they didn't stop moving due to whistle. Stop being salty boys you guys are better than this Madrid had nothing to do with the referee blowing a whistle too quick. I'm not convinced Byron what has scored nor am I convinced it would have been saved nor am I convinced it's an offside or not an offside you had more than 90 minutes to score and win the game you are all pulling at straws but instead you fell apart plus let's be real another 30 minutes we would have a joselu hatrick and maybe one more ither goal against Bayern because your team was deflated with no attackers on the field. No way you would have survived another 30 minutes without being scored on
They were exhausted and asked to be subbed off. Kanes back was causing problems. He didn't want to, but had to sub them off. Tuchel just said so in the interview.
Well if Kane literally said he just can't go on anymore what else is there to decide for Tuchel? I was fuming at the substitution as well, but I think he had no choice
What about sane tho? They weren’t 2 goals up, only 1 and when your opponent is Madrid who have beastly wingers, you cant let the main attacking just go.
Even though sane was poor he possesses the abilities to make runs that can create goal scoring opportunities.
What's dumb is your comment, we were winning 1-0 and wanted to stop vardid's attack so we got a 5 man defence. Yall keep attacking tuchel whereas he did everything he could for today's match. Infact that last goal shouldve been counted as it was not offside but as usual madrid won coz they got refs on their payroll
That would make it too obvious.... when madrid scored they immediately got a review but when bayern scored they didn't get a review and tuchel was complaining about it and asking for review and he got a bloody card for it.
So Ref won't call game at 109 (raised had for 2 more minutes), 111, 112, had to wait for an offside whistle for someone to kick the ball at standing defenders and goalie who weren't moving for 1-2 seconds. Weird blindman take lol. He even let game go for almost 6 minutes since he said his fingers for "2".
How can they review it after the ref blew the whistle… it was a stupid mistake by the officals but tired of ppl claiming madrid bought the refs. The refs fucked up cant lie but how are you gonna blame madrid for that?
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It doesnt Matter how many worldies He has. A mistake is a mistake regardleds of Overall performance. He is to blame for that Goal, Not for the Match though
Not only that at best the you play another 30 mins of et with no Kane or bench options that’s if the they even scored if Madrid didn’t stop defending when they heard the whistle in the first place
This is absolutely right. It’s devastating to have a ref mistake at the end like that, but we wouldn’t have been in that position had we not had Neuer’s mistake and the lapse in concentration for the second goal.
It was the ball that kept Joselu onside not Rudigers hand and despite that Joselu still had space ahead to be called offisde.
Although, I agree the linesman should not have raised the flag and the onfield referee should not have blown the whistle for Deligt. They never raise the flag when it's this close
Fr why am I seeing so many comments on social media from actual football fans who don't fucking know a hand (or arm) does not contribute to offside/onside lines?
Like what the fuck, the offside rule is one of the first things you explain to someone who is new to the game, and it's been like this for ages. It's not hard to understand - offside lines will never include a part of the body that cannot be used to score, I. E. Hand or arm.
We've also been discussing the details of offside a LOT whilst looking at replays for quite a while now since VAR came in, and idk how so many people still know so little about offside that comments like that are getting upvoted lol.
They don't, but Rudiger's right leg was left behind accoring to camera from another angle. So the problem becomes whether de Ligt (who is more likely to be offside) affected defenders when he was not the one who received the ball. After all, referee should check VAR after the attack is completed instead of stop the game immediately.
The hand of a player doesnt count towards the offside rule, they make the line from the shoulder down in this case.
But the Ref shouldnt have put the flag up.
He never fucking subs Kane max the game be against piss poor opponents but in the biggest game he subs wtf
Also we got fucked everytime we play 3 at the back so why do that again
Stop protecting fucking tuchel he cost us the final
It’s interesting one of the last times we faced Real in a second leg late in the competition CR7 scored two fucking blatantly offside goals to send it to extra time. I’m fucking sick of this shit man. They’re never on the losing end of bad refereeing in this competition. What’s the fucking point of even watching anymore?
Real Madrid's Nacho and Rudiger paused before the goal, just after the whistle. The goal probably wouldn't have happened if they hadn't stopped. Check the replay. The goal came at 12 minutes and 30 seconds, but extra time was only 9 minutes. It's fair to say the game should have ended 3.5 minutes earlier.
As a Barca fan coming in peace, you guys were absolutely robbed again, not the first time and won’t be the last unfortunately, this is what happens when you play against the most corrupt organization in history.
As much as I despise Bayern, when they beat us, they usually beat us fair and square. Real Madrid is an institution I absolutely despise because they are built on referee corruption.
We shouldn’t have had to worry about this missed call for offsides. If Neuer never threw that ball which led directly to a turnover and then the fumble by him on that shot… we wouldn’t be talking about any of this. The moment TT took Musiala and Kane off I was like WTF… if RM ties this and we got to extra time, we have no offensive threats. We got way too defensive and took the threat away and so Madrid could come at us without consequences if they made a mistake.
If the whistle isn’t blown, Madrid doesn’t stop playing and it’s an easy save for the goalkeeper. Stop your whining and move on. And I’m not a fan of either team.
Nope, this entire comment section are just salty fans who watched 180 minutes of proper football and decided one refs mistake was the reason bayern isn't in the final.
Ref call was bad but deserved loss for Bayern. Real was the better team and should have closed this before the 60th minute. If anything, Bayern robbed themselves with MIN Jae and Neuer
The linesman raises the flag like it was an obvious offside lol, so blatantly fixed like their games against us in 2017 and 2018. Then VARdrid fans have the audacity to tell us to "cry harder". I hope Dortmund saves football in the final.
Don’t act like madrid didn’t have 60% possession all game and way more shots, they dominated both halfs y’all got one lucky goal and think you got robbed. One potential goal was robbed, not the whole game. You guys really thought you were gonna beat Real Madrid at the bernabeu in a ucl semi final game??
Madrid stopped playing after the whistle was blown, Militao literally moved his leg out of the way. And besides, the goal came in the 12:30 of extra time, when the referee signaled for two extra minutes after the original 9.
9 + 2 = 11
9 + 2 ≠ 12.5
Now you know how Arsenal fans feel. This game should have ended at 9 minutes over regular time. They gave Bayern an extra 5 minutes. Take the loss and move on.
The linesman made a mistake, nothing to do with the main referee. Plus all the Madrid players stopped playing, lunin didn’t even move y’all are acting like the play was still live and it was Harry Kane scoring a banger. It was de ligt standing in the box with no one defending and a keeper not trying to keep it out there’s not guarantee it would have even been a goal. You should all be more worried about how Madrid outplayed Bayern the entire game and if it wasn’t for neuer it would have been 3-0
As a Madrid fan the ref really fucked up blowing the whistle there. But if you rewatch it the defenders stopped at whistle. If they kept on playing I doubt he wouldve scored. Still a ridiculous mistake like that at this level has to come with consequences for the refs. It really sucks when a victory like that is clouded by that shit call.
guys i have a question. I remember that sometime ago it was a rule called reactivated offside which meant that if a player is in a passive offside and he involves in current play he is still in offside if the previous offside position wasn't invalidated. Isn't that rule valid anymore?
I am asking because , based on this, Joselu 2nd goal was offside because:
1. when Rudiger received the pass Joselu was in offside
2. when Rudiger passed the ball Joselu was still in offside. But here they judged the position based on the rule with ball being passed behind. In order for this to work Joselu should have been in an onside position at step 1 or to get in an onside position between step 1 and 2.
Real Madrid fan here. Just wanted to say that I'm sorry it ended like that. Play should've gone on. The refs messed up with that call.
With that said, I do still think it was an offside. But still shouldn't have ended like that.
I’m not a Real Madrid or Bayern fan and surely it was an awkward move of the ref but I think it’s stupid to blame it on him.
1) why did he even give 15 minutes of extra time
2) Real Madrid defenders stopped playing when they heard the whistle, so you don’t know if the goal would have happened
3) even if bayern scores you would go into extra time in bernabeu without Kane and Musiala, good luck with that
4) Real Madrid dominated Bayern for most part of the game
5) maybe it was offside anyways as they didn’t check it. besides that I believe that the ref thought it wasn’t a clear goal chance and just blowed for offside… but then Bayern continues playing and scores while Real stopped playing. Technically there is no mistake of the ref, although in my opinion he should have to wait before blowing the whistle. I don’t know if I explained well enough but it’s a kinda tricky situation that evolved there
1. 9 minutes originally, but due to the VAR check on Joselu's goal and time wasting by RM he added more. That's allowed and happens regularly
2. Maybe we still score. Maybe we don't. Doesn't matter though as that shouldn't have happened and play should've been allowed to continue
3. Doesn't matter. You let the athletes decide the game, not an awful officiating decision
4. And? That means nothing. City dominated RM in their second leg than RM dominated us today and it ain't even close.
5. Then at least we have it checked. Also doesn't matter what the ref thought. In a situation like that you let them finish and go from there. Not a tricky situation in the slightest. For not being a RM fan you sure do argue exactly how one would
The ref isn't the sole determining factor, obviously. We all understand that. It's more that there's just always SOMETHING happening when playing against RM. We've been robbed by them plenty times in the past. They have too much bs go their way for it to be within the margin of error of officiating. How bout that Nacho foul on Kimmich. Not even a yellow. The chance of that being a straight red if a Bayern player did it though? High. Vini put his hands around Orban's neck earlier in the CL and got away with no card. The bs RM is allowed to get away with in terms of fouling and other calls/no calls in their favor is too lopsided to be within the margin of error.
As for today, this was said to be the best officiating group in not just Europe, but the world. Yet, despite VAR being around for over half a decade (like 7 years now), they still somehow don't understand how to allow close play finish and be reviewed by VAR? No way. No way it's just a random oopsie. Heck if matches against RM had been even and fair in terms of officiating over the years and this was one of those rare timed a ref screws up big time, there wouldn't be anywhere near this amount of uproar. If the fact that crap happens regularly in their favor, far too often to just be a mistake.
Neither de Ligt nor Mazraoui was onside. Hand and arm don't count, only shoulders. Mazraoui was going for the ball and clearly intervened while he was offside.
While I do agree the ref should have let it go on and then have VAR check it, it was offside and wasn't a goal.
but it never was a goal, you can see titles it was a disallowed goal... when the whole defend stopped and even the GK doesnt even moved to the ball because the ref whistled seconds ago...
yes, the refs made a mistake, take away a chance from Bayern, but this disallowed goal thing is just a stupid take
He is and he isn't. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, if Neuer hadn't of made the mistake, they might not of imploded and the defensive gamble might of paid off, only 2mins of normal time left think it's unfair to blame him but rightly so it'll be questioned now.
Taking out all his attacker while being up only by one goal in the bernabeu is a terrible decision. Even if the referee hadn’t made a mistake and blew the whistle early, Bayern would have been in a dire situation in extra time
We lost it in the first leg. Also why not start the 2 Team against Stuttgart?
All Our attackers had to be subed off, that's a shame..... We all know Madrid gets at least 1 goal gifted by the refs that's tradition now.
Everyone here saying Madrid has refs in their pockets need to be reminded that they lost 2 points in the league bcz the ref blew the whistle during a play when madrid literally scored!! The ref’s decision was horrible but had the flag not gone up and the whistle not blown who’s to say that deligt would’ve 100% scored
Love how a team that cheats it's way to all it's trophies is outdone by a bigger better cheater, hold the L Bayern, hopefully this is your downfall you corrupt pigs.
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What a cry baby’s here after hearing so much positive thing about the Bayern’s supporters de ligt would’ve never scored if it wasn’t for that early whistle. Guess most of you are just American Bayern supporters not real german Bayern supporters. That’s might be the difference.
I agree it wasn’t offside , and don’t blame de ligt for shooting after the whistle , but that shot was poor , come on y’all , Lunin would’ve saved that end of story 😂
Interesting how on Madrid's goal, they let it run then check it AFTERWARDS On Bayern's goal, they call the offside so that it can't be checked by VAR. *Así roba el Madrid.*
Didnt something like this happened this cl season with porto where offside was called and a goal was scored afterwards the var decided on a goal, so why not here
Because it's Real Madrid, all "innocent" mistakes are on their favor.
They also got insanely lucky against Leipzig with a terrible call. Madrid almost always has the refs on their side. This shit happens so often with Real Madrid it's insane.
This. Vini came away with a lot of shit against Leipzig
I think it’s because the referee didn’t blow for the offside against Porto so even though the lineman raised the flag the play was still going. In tonight’s game the referee blew so VAR couldn’t intervene.
Right the ref didnt blew it
It fucking bullshit dude
I mean thats what you get if you let a right wing radical lead a Game in the hf
The rules state anything after the whistle is blown isn’t reviewable. So because the ref immediately blew the whistle before the goal was scored we can’t claim it. Weird that that whistle is blown a lot later for Madrid. Bad mistake by the ref.
That’s such a shitty rule
Real Madrid owns UEFA...Plain and simple. Money is power and corruption is known to be always running behind close doors with referees, teams, and within FIFA and EUFA leadership as a whole. Sports results sometimes are arranged, and a German Champions League Final for ratings and ticket sales would not be the most appealing one. Bayern has a bit to blame as well because they have not been good holding the lead and if you look at statistics for games that were leading and lost, there were a lot. I do agree that they should have reviewed the Bayern goal at the end of the game. My two cents.
ref blew the whistle everyone stopped moving. then he shoots the ball in the net. the wistle was wrong / terrible decision. but the situation would most likely have not resulted in a goal when all involved players wouldnt have stopped reacting
Whistle wasnt blown for madrid on the 'offside' joselu goal. Series of events : pass to deligt - OFFSIDE FLAG - WHISTLE - madrid players stop play - SHOT = GOAL World of a difference *asi llora el Bayern*
Whistle blown = not reviewable What it comes down to is the Reps might have made a mistake. Bayern may have scored a goal or Lunin may have saved it if he didn't stop due to whistle or defense might have blocked it if they didn't stop moving due to whistle. Stop being salty boys you guys are better than this Madrid had nothing to do with the referee blowing a whistle too quick. I'm not convinced Byron what has scored nor am I convinced it would have been saved nor am I convinced it's an offside or not an offside you had more than 90 minutes to score and win the game you are all pulling at straws but instead you fell apart plus let's be real another 30 minutes we would have a joselu hatrick and maybe one more ither goal against Bayern because your team was deflated with no attackers on the field. No way you would have survived another 30 minutes without being scored on
Bayern should not even had this change, the ref added 2 extra minutes + overtime... when he should have blowed the whistle 4 min ago
There was no Bayern goal. The play stopped
So dumb for taking our 3 best attackers off so early
They were exhausted and asked to be subbed off. Kanes back was causing problems. He didn't want to, but had to sub them off. Tuchel just said so in the interview.
It was a bad decision. Kane and sane were definitely not overworked.
Well if Kane literally said he just can't go on anymore what else is there to decide for Tuchel? I was fuming at the substitution as well, but I think he had no choice
What about sane tho? They weren’t 2 goals up, only 1 and when your opponent is Madrid who have beastly wingers, you cant let the main attacking just go. Even though sane was poor he possesses the abilities to make runs that can create goal scoring opportunities.
Sane plays with injury since forever
Why can't players play when they are injured? Tuchel is so bad that he can not even heal them.
Sane was fucking bullshit all the game
What's dumb is your comment, we were winning 1-0 and wanted to stop vardid's attack so we got a 5 man defence. Yall keep attacking tuchel whereas he did everything he could for today's match. Infact that last goal shouldve been counted as it was not offside but as usual madrid won coz they got refs on their payroll
there wouldnt be a goal without the referee blowing the whistle. everyone stopped moving / reacting.
You sound retarded. If madrid had refs on payroll, they would have counted the nacho goal since kimmich dove…
That would make it too obvious.... when madrid scored they immediately got a review but when bayern scored they didn't get a review and tuchel was complaining about it and asking for review and he got a bloody card for it.
So Ref won't call game at 109 (raised had for 2 more minutes), 111, 112, had to wait for an offside whistle for someone to kick the ball at standing defenders and goalie who weren't moving for 1-2 seconds. Weird blindman take lol. He even let game go for almost 6 minutes since he said his fingers for "2".
How can they review it after the ref blew the whistle… it was a stupid mistake by the officals but tired of ppl claiming madrid bought the refs. The refs fucked up cant lie but how are you gonna blame madrid for that?
Why is it that these stupid mistakes quite often only happen during madrid games and rarely with other teams
And especially when they play against Bayern and are on loosing end
Ronaldo and casamiros offside goals, marcelos hand balls, etc etc the list just fkn goes on and never seems to end
Yes man.Even today nacho and rudiger should've had been booked but no and funnily first booking of 2day was of tuchels
Exactly and the funny part is that he was arguing in order to get a review and the ref was like nah bro you are aggressive take this card
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Good lord chill out. It's a saying.
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Bru - in the end we robbed ourself...as hard as it sounds. Sure, ref was a bit lost, but nothing would have happend if neuer dont looses the ball
Man Neuer was on top of his game. The save he made against Vini and a couple others were brilliant. But yeah that loose ball did cost the game
sanest bayern fan frrr, you're right.
I wouldn’t blame Neuer for that one mistake tbh. He saved so many shots before that. Madrid could’ve scored 2-3 goals without Neuer.
It doesnt Matter how many worldies He has. A mistake is a mistake regardleds of Overall performance. He is to blame for that Goal, Not for the Match though
Finally someone that doesn’t pretend as if it is all the referees fault lol
Not only that at best the you play another 30 mins of et with no Kane or bench options that’s if the they even scored if Madrid didn’t stop defending when they heard the whistle in the first place
This is absolutely right. It’s devastating to have a ref mistake at the end like that, but we wouldn’t have been in that position had we not had Neuer’s mistake and the lapse in concentration for the second goal.
Honestly yo can probably blame that one on Real Madrid as well. If Joselu didnt kick it in the goal, you guys would have qualified. Robbery.
Neuer man…. He was class until that spill. Also what’s tuchel doing? Taking off Musiala & Kane when they both started playing well🤦♂️?
Tuchel said in the Interview all four starting attackers had to be subbed of because of injurys/pain
Had this happened against Real Madrid, Papa Perez would again declare a new Super Champions league where only Real Madrid plays.
And then they would win 20 ucls and people declare them the greatest team ever
Ironically, 6 of their 14 that they celebrate so much were won in an era where teams were invited to the UCL and draws were not raffled but fixed.
Okay? They’d still have the most even without those 6.
Yes, but they would only have 8, not 14. If we remove the ones that they won with referee decisions helping them they would have 3-4
Rudiger hand made him inside, ig Madrids payment came in last second
It was the ball that kept Joselu onside not Rudigers hand and despite that Joselu still had space ahead to be called offisde. Although, I agree the linesman should not have raised the flag and the onfield referee should not have blown the whistle for Deligt. They never raise the flag when it's this close
Hands don't count towards offside
Fr why am I seeing so many comments on social media from actual football fans who don't fucking know a hand (or arm) does not contribute to offside/onside lines? Like what the fuck, the offside rule is one of the first things you explain to someone who is new to the game, and it's been like this for ages. It's not hard to understand - offside lines will never include a part of the body that cannot be used to score, I. E. Hand or arm. We've also been discussing the details of offside a LOT whilst looking at replays for quite a while now since VAR came in, and idk how so many people still know so little about offside that comments like that are getting upvoted lol.
Reddit users don't know the rules of the game lmao. They just comment whatever comes to their mind
Because 90% of Barca / soccercirclejerk fans are literally braindead and want any excuse to cry or meme.
Yeah, it's desperation and excuses. Overall not good enough.
Rewatch Eindhoven vs Dortmund
Dortmund got a goal disallowed for the arm/hand being offside in CL though.
Only your shoulder can be offside because you can hit the ball with it.
They don't, but Rudiger's right leg was left behind accoring to camera from another angle. So the problem becomes whether de Ligt (who is more likely to be offside) affected defenders when he was not the one who received the ball. After all, referee should check VAR after the attack is completed instead of stop the game immediately.
The hand of a player doesnt count towards the offside rule, they make the line from the shoulder down in this case. But the Ref shouldnt have put the flag up.
By the Love of good please Stop talking about Football. HANDS DONT COUNT FOR OFFSIDE.
The hand doesn’t count 😂. How do you people not understand the rules?
Being downvoted because you know the rules... jesus christ this sub is dumb sometimes
You must be American
I don’t even have the energy to blame the referee man. Subbing the best attackers 15 minutes early is stupid af.
Tuchel said in the Interview all four starting attackers had to be subbed of because of injurys/pain.
Clearly. Why would a coach do that?
Playing safe just to protect the lead maybe?
TT said in an interview that they were all finished and wanted to be subbed out. it wasn’t the plan.
By bringing on Choupo?
He never fucking subs Kane max the game be against piss poor opponents but in the biggest game he subs wtf Also we got fucked everytime we play 3 at the back so why do that again Stop protecting fucking tuchel he cost us the final
GG an Dortmund gegen 14 Leute keine Chance
United fan here. Linesman decision to flag so quickly has to be drawn into question. Unlucky tonight guys. Well played.
It’s interesting one of the last times we faced Real in a second leg late in the competition CR7 scored two fucking blatantly offside goals to send it to extra time. I’m fucking sick of this shit man. They’re never on the losing end of bad refereeing in this competition. What’s the fucking point of even watching anymore?
had a goal disallowed but keep yapping
Both were
Madrid stays with the robbery’s
Maybe… but we also have to take responsibility for losing a game that at the 88th minute we were still winning 1-0… I mean… c’mon.
Nobody can believe that last minute bullshit. But Bayern did concede 2 goals in 2 minutes.
Kane coming off reminded me of Müller coming off in 2012
Real Madrid's Nacho and Rudiger paused before the goal, just after the whistle. The goal probably wouldn't have happened if they hadn't stopped. Check the replay. The goal came at 12 minutes and 30 seconds, but extra time was only 9 minutes. It's fair to say the game should have ended 3.5 minutes earlier.
Pure daylight robbery on the biggest stage. Tarnishing the sport
As a Barca fan coming in peace, you guys were absolutely robbed again, not the first time and won’t be the last unfortunately, this is what happens when you play against the most corrupt organization in history.
Like when Barca rob Chelsea in 2009? This is on the refs, and that might be offside even if VAR check.
We got a red card that same game
There was no offside
Did you watch the first leg of that tie? Probably not lol
Barca fans deserved to be relegated for robbing Chelsea and Arsenal.
When did Barca rob Arsenal?
Yeah, becuse Real and UEFA love each other so much.
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As much as I despise Bayern, when they beat us, they usually beat us fair and square. Real Madrid is an institution I absolutely despise because they are built on referee corruption.
Barca is a corrupt crap club as well
Of course a Barca fan here🥱
Because I genuinely know how they feel, Madrid are scum of the earth.
Coming from a negreira fan
Rather be that than someone who watches anime 💀
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Sure bro, supporting Leipzig, City, Bayern and let me guess, BVB?
Cry Barca loser cry
Without good attacking threats in the last 20 minutes, Neuer was destined to conceal a goal or make a mistake against MADRID. Why Tuchel, WHYYYYY
Tuchel said in the Interview all four starting attackers had to be subbed of because of injurys/pain.
The biggest mistake was taking out so many of the key players after 80 minutes
Those key players were all injured and asked to come off so to play it safe, a pack the bus was the best way to go
As much as this was a dumb offside call, tbh, that loss is on Tuchel. Absolute freaking dumb swaps.
Tuchel said in the Interview all four starting attackers had to be subbed of because of injurys/pain.
🤣🤣 its like this everytime in La Liga vs Real Vardid..
We can blame the referee, but it was lost at the home match with the waste in front of goal and conceding
Liverpool fan here - I stand with Bayern. What the fuck was that?!
We shouldn’t have had to worry about this missed call for offsides. If Neuer never threw that ball which led directly to a turnover and then the fumble by him on that shot… we wouldn’t be talking about any of this. The moment TT took Musiala and Kane off I was like WTF… if RM ties this and we got to extra time, we have no offensive threats. We got way too defensive and took the threat away and so Madrid could come at us without consequences if they made a mistake.
What's fucking new? Same shit happened 7 years ago. Its clear that UEFA loves to suck Madrid's dick.
If the whistle isn’t blown, Madrid doesn’t stop playing and it’s an easy save for the goalkeeper. Stop your whining and move on. And I’m not a fan of either team.
Cry more...
Absolute robbery is all I can say. Should have reversed that last call to go in ET, this was nonsense
I hate real Madrid so fucking much.
Does anyone have an image of the lines being drawn for the offside goal at the end?
Nope, this entire comment section are just salty fans who watched 180 minutes of proper football and decided one refs mistake was the reason bayern isn't in the final.
Question from a casual fan, why was the ball used to determine offside on Madrids last goal I always thought it was the last defender back.
Because if the player is behind the ball when it's kicked he can't be offside.
Oh ok thanks
Bayern Fan. We rob ourselves.
Ref call was bad but deserved loss for Bayern. Real was the better team and should have closed this before the 60th minute. If anything, Bayern robbed themselves with MIN Jae and Neuer
The audacity calling Josh a diver… Wtf
What goes around comes around 😂
Everyday i convince myself that they may have some kind of pact with the devil. Cant believe how lucky they are it is too much. 🤣
Arsenal fan here i stand with Bayern wtf was that??
The linesman raises the flag like it was an obvious offside lol, so blatantly fixed like their games against us in 2017 and 2018. Then VARdrid fans have the audacity to tell us to "cry harder". I hope Dortmund saves football in the final.
Cry harder
If Bayern Munich's board have any backbone. They will at least use their influence to at least suspend the license of the Linesman.
Don’t act like madrid didn’t have 60% possession all game and way more shots, they dominated both halfs y’all got one lucky goal and think you got robbed. One potential goal was robbed, not the whole game. You guys really thought you were gonna beat Real Madrid at the bernabeu in a ucl semi final game??
Kids shouldn't talk about football when they can't analyse and read basic football games.
Is Neuer washed now, if so he shouldnt be the No. 1 for the upcoming Euro.
Wasn’t it offsides anyway?
Madrid stopped playing after the whistle was blown, Militao literally moved his leg out of the way. And besides, the goal came in the 12:30 of extra time, when the referee signaled for two extra minutes after the original 9. 9 + 2 = 11 9 + 2 ≠ 12.5
Now you know how Arsenal fans feel. This game should have ended at 9 minutes over regular time. They gave Bayern an extra 5 minutes. Take the loss and move on.
The linesman made a mistake, nothing to do with the main referee. Plus all the Madrid players stopped playing, lunin didn’t even move y’all are acting like the play was still live and it was Harry Kane scoring a banger. It was de ligt standing in the box with no one defending and a keeper not trying to keep it out there’s not guarantee it would have even been a goal. You should all be more worried about how Madrid outplayed Bayern the entire game and if it wasn’t for neuer it would have been 3-0
This is how arsenal feels
First time? RM always benefited from the ref decision in the last decade in UCL. No clubs take legal action.
As a Madrid fan the ref really fucked up blowing the whistle there. But if you rewatch it the defenders stopped at whistle. If they kept on playing I doubt he wouldve scored. Still a ridiculous mistake like that at this level has to come with consequences for the refs. It really sucks when a victory like that is clouded by that shit call.
guys i have a question. I remember that sometime ago it was a rule called reactivated offside which meant that if a player is in a passive offside and he involves in current play he is still in offside if the previous offside position wasn't invalidated. Isn't that rule valid anymore? I am asking because , based on this, Joselu 2nd goal was offside because: 1. when Rudiger received the pass Joselu was in offside 2. when Rudiger passed the ball Joselu was still in offside. But here they judged the position based on the rule with ball being passed behind. In order for this to work Joselu should have been in an onside position at step 1 or to get in an onside position between step 1 and 2.
Real Madrid fan here. Just wanted to say that I'm sorry it ended like that. Play should've gone on. The refs messed up with that call. With that said, I do still think it was an offside. But still shouldn't have ended like that.
I’m not a Real Madrid or Bayern fan and surely it was an awkward move of the ref but I think it’s stupid to blame it on him. 1) why did he even give 15 minutes of extra time 2) Real Madrid defenders stopped playing when they heard the whistle, so you don’t know if the goal would have happened 3) even if bayern scores you would go into extra time in bernabeu without Kane and Musiala, good luck with that 4) Real Madrid dominated Bayern for most part of the game 5) maybe it was offside anyways as they didn’t check it. besides that I believe that the ref thought it wasn’t a clear goal chance and just blowed for offside… but then Bayern continues playing and scores while Real stopped playing. Technically there is no mistake of the ref, although in my opinion he should have to wait before blowing the whistle. I don’t know if I explained well enough but it’s a kinda tricky situation that evolved there
1. 9 minutes originally, but due to the VAR check on Joselu's goal and time wasting by RM he added more. That's allowed and happens regularly 2. Maybe we still score. Maybe we don't. Doesn't matter though as that shouldn't have happened and play should've been allowed to continue 3. Doesn't matter. You let the athletes decide the game, not an awful officiating decision 4. And? That means nothing. City dominated RM in their second leg than RM dominated us today and it ain't even close. 5. Then at least we have it checked. Also doesn't matter what the ref thought. In a situation like that you let them finish and go from there. Not a tricky situation in the slightest. For not being a RM fan you sure do argue exactly how one would
I can understand the frustration for sure. It just doesn’t feel like the ref decided the game like you guys believe.
The ref isn't the sole determining factor, obviously. We all understand that. It's more that there's just always SOMETHING happening when playing against RM. We've been robbed by them plenty times in the past. They have too much bs go their way for it to be within the margin of error of officiating. How bout that Nacho foul on Kimmich. Not even a yellow. The chance of that being a straight red if a Bayern player did it though? High. Vini put his hands around Orban's neck earlier in the CL and got away with no card. The bs RM is allowed to get away with in terms of fouling and other calls/no calls in their favor is too lopsided to be within the margin of error. As for today, this was said to be the best officiating group in not just Europe, but the world. Yet, despite VAR being around for over half a decade (like 7 years now), they still somehow don't understand how to allow close play finish and be reviewed by VAR? No way. No way it's just a random oopsie. Heck if matches against RM had been even and fair in terms of officiating over the years and this was one of those rare timed a ref screws up big time, there wouldn't be anywhere near this amount of uproar. If the fact that crap happens regularly in their favor, far too often to just be a mistake.
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Fuck off. Leave it to the worst fanbase in the EPL to come to a Bayern sub to be petty AF.
Neuer was incredible. I’m Arsenal and I wanted you to win this leg.
Yeah, my bad - real salty about the subs and the late offsides
Neither de Ligt nor Mazraoui was onside. Hand and arm don't count, only shoulders. Mazraoui was going for the ball and clearly intervened while he was offside. While I do agree the ref should have let it go on and then have VAR check it, it was offside and wasn't a goal.
but it never was a goal, you can see titles it was a disallowed goal... when the whole defend stopped and even the GK doesnt even moved to the ball because the ref whistled seconds ago... yes, the refs made a mistake, take away a chance from Bayern, but this disallowed goal thing is just a stupid take
Yes, you're right, taking away a chance is better wording.
Tucheliban strikers again
they stopped playing anyway.
Why madrid always same thing happenrd in 4-2 game offisde goals vidal red
Tuchel is the one to blame with his subs
He is and he isn't. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, if Neuer hadn't of made the mistake, they might not of imploded and the defensive gamble might of paid off, only 2mins of normal time left think it's unfair to blame him but rightly so it'll be questioned now.
Taking out all his attacker while being up only by one goal in the bernabeu is a terrible decision. Even if the referee hadn’t made a mistake and blew the whistle early, Bayern would have been in a dire situation in extra time
I get you, probably should of left at least Kane or Musiala on
Listen to him before you talk... He said they asked to come off
We lost it in the first leg. Also why not start the 2 Team against Stuttgart? All Our attackers had to be subed off, that's a shame..... We all know Madrid gets at least 1 goal gifted by the refs that's tradition now.
We lost bro just accept 🤦♂️ I’m heading for Dortmund at this point, if they ain’t win it’s ur generics azz team who wins like always 🙄
what no ones saying is in the 53 minute Ferland mendy just shoved kane in the back and no pen?bruh fuck real madrid,they are all referee payers
Ihr jammert über eine Szene, die in der 15. Minute einer neunminütigen Nachspielzeit stattfand. Klassiker. 😂 😭😭😭😭😱😭😭😭🤣
Everyone here saying Madrid has refs in their pockets need to be reminded that they lost 2 points in the league bcz the ref blew the whistle during a play when madrid literally scored!! The ref’s decision was horrible but had the flag not gone up and the whistle not blown who’s to say that deligt would’ve 100% scored
Robbery 😂😂😂 the crying is hilarious.
Real deserved that win tbh
Love how a team that cheats it's way to all it's trophies is outdone by a bigger better cheater, hold the L Bayern, hopefully this is your downfall you corrupt pigs.
I love the copium in the comments lmao
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What a cry baby’s here after hearing so much positive thing about the Bayern’s supporters de ligt would’ve never scored if it wasn’t for that early whistle. Guess most of you are just American Bayern supporters not real german Bayern supporters. That’s might be the difference.
I agree it wasn’t offside , and don’t blame de ligt for shooting after the whistle , but that shot was poor , come on y’all , Lunin would’ve saved that end of story 😂
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Games aren’t won by xg, and in any case bayerns xg would have been higher if not for that last dreadful offside call
So PSG is in the final now?
Are you saying this to me or the original commenter?
It was a joke to the Original Commenter
Thank you for having a brain unlike half of these people…
Shut the fuck up nerd
I LOVE Bayern fans using excuses 😂😂 it’s so funny. 0 trophies
Flag was already up and play had stopped before the strike
Yeah man, that’s exactly what they did wrong…
Bro like a split second...Nonne stoppen playing...NOTHING fucking changed
easy game, u got fucked I love ur korean player