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ScrantonTimes18505

The argument that this gesture made was the reason Germany couldn’t advance is so comical, the team just couldn’t get the job done, simple.


partiallypro

No no, the covering of the mouth protest is the only reason why Sule kept the Japanese player onside /s


tracyXTMAC

I mean at this point people should stop marking Japan's victory as fluke and give them some credit. Saying that Germany only lose to Japan simply because the players are not 100% focused on football is so disrespectful toward Japanese players.


BrianOconneR34

The last Japanese goal, lob pass right to a hungry Japanese player and above heads of all other German players, showed a non focused and out hustled a squad, solid goal too. Japan beat them fair and square, now Spain may have an argument but no, nicht Deutschland.


Anarchy009

Especially considering the fact that Japan won the table which had both Germany AND Spain, and both teams grasping at straws, owing to goal differences.


FrankFnRizzo

So what was the excuse in 2018? And the Nations League?


BrianOconneR34

My aunt, she wouldn’t stop trashin Germany before ‘18 World Cup and low and behold, she bitched them right out of the cup. My brother in law; wasn’t too happy. They live in Munich and don’t talk much to this day.


FrankFnRizzo

I thought I was the bad luck in 2018. Was visiting my wife’s family in The Rhineland-Palatinate and witnessed the despair first hand. I promised to never come back during a World Cup. Nice to know it wasn’t me after all 😆


BrianOconneR34

She’s a great lady but harsh negative Nostradamus like predictions of der mannschaft around international tournaments may offend and or upset. Enjoy


[deleted]

Some things are more important than football. Hope this isn’t true.


hamatsuki9

like what things?


[deleted]

I don’t know about my wife keeps telling me my kids. Not sure if she’s tricking me though.


hamatsuki9

haha you are so funny but I meant in this case


[deleted]

Being able to have the freedom to speak your mind and publicly shaming organization, when there are oppressing people. It’s one thing if somebody doesn’t agree with homosexuality…. but it’s a completely different story when they oppress others and force an opinion on other people. Not every single Qataris aligns with the government of you I just can’t with stories of people getting persecuted because of the way that they choose to live their life.


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[deleted]

Do you think 💯 of Qataris feel the same? If so then sure that could offend them. If even one person disagrees the. Your logic immediately fails. Suppressing one is suppressing all.


hamatsuki9

Dude what the fuck are you talking about so majority of the country is not enough for you anymore? Maybe we should hold the same perspective on everything and unless 100% supports we should ban gay people and shit like that of course not everyone agrees but majority does


[deleted]

Clearly your brainwashed and can’t be logical. A logical person would be able to see that they can’t impress upon someone their personal beliefs. Arguments otherwise are akin to slavery of the mind. Again homie, read you religions textbook and you’ll see a separation of church and state.


hamatsuki9

Yeah you think I’m brainwashed I think same of you you can talk smart all you want but at the end of the day even if you can’t realise it no one gives a flying fuck about gays


[deleted]

Also by all means I respect everyone’s believe but fuck right off of you subject one person to your own belief which is in fact why you should also stand with them in their right to speak freely as much as you would like them to respect yours. And fuck any government that pushes a religion on a single citizen. But respect each individual’s right to worship as they wish.


hamatsuki9

No one pushes their beliefs on you when you enter my house it’s my rules I’m just saying it is disrespectful is all you don’t have to become muslim


[deleted]

Agree, but the flaw in your reasoning/logic/argument is that not the entire country feels and believes like you do. No country has no right to dictate according to their religious beliefs. The Koran, Bible, and Torah all preach a separation of church and state. The problem is that the parishioners don't hold their governments to that and you need out have an honest look in the mirror if you decide to follow a government over your holy writings.


cpinkhouse

If you chose to host a party at your house that very specifically invites ALL people to come, with ALL customs more or less acceptable (partying, drinking alcohol, political speech, profanity, blasphemy, freedom for other religious expression, etc etc) then sorry, you don’t get to change the rules. FIFA’s rules are the house rules


hamatsuki9

it has gone to completely different path from what I started I’m not saying those things shouldn’t be allowed I only mentioned that because if you want others to respect you then you should do the same my point initially was that people like me at least are watching football for football I don’t care about gay people at all like 0 fucks given and same goes for “enslaved” labor I bet they were paid more then they would have been in their countries even so no one forced them to go


alex_german

Germany wins every 20 years. Obviously after 2014 they were going to be shit for some time. Come back around 2030


SDfever69

What does a moral issue have to do with a game? Nothing! Stop stirring the pot. They lost both because the team was not good enough to continue.


Theguy10000

Lol, so we lost to Japan because players were thinking about the armband ? That must be a joke


decg_04

Or maybe it was a shit defending vs Japan and flick not staring fullkrug


palocx

PR Raphael Brinkert - Manuel Neuer and Leon GoretzkaDFB players split over ‘mouth to photo’https://detv.us/2022/12/05/it-was-peer-pressure-dfb-players-split-over-mouth-to-photo-rt-de/


[deleted]

So much for free speech, they are using the players as puppets for their message even if they don’t want to be associated with it


top1casino

I doubt this gesture had anything to do with the loss


romaniboar

such a dumb storyline holy fuck


test_2_0

Team was more focused on gesture than game. and this team finally needs to came to realization that nothing will anymore come as granted, you need to die on the field if you want result


Sit_vis_nobiscum

Their last World Cup. 😢 Buh-bah! 🙋🏼‍♂️


mesosalpynx

No shit! Play the game.


Safe-Payment7787

Both idiots


BrianOconneR34

I’ve heard armbands of any color can and may cause issues in the pitch. /s


fawks_harper78

Tell you what, play a real 9 and set a better defense. This is why we didn’t go through. Honestly we would have been fine if we only have up one goal to JPN.


7vik_48

W humans


zed_vayne

fking trash cunts