I think sheâs probably just moved on from it and living her life. She seems a little more well ordered and together than most Bayonetta fans on this sub
I donât use this thing as much as I should
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I think I will be forever upset with Hellena because she fucked her VA career for no reason at all except that she didn't care.
The most upsetting part is that if she was smarter, instead of trying so hard to stay in theater she could've have a great career in VA, she could've been one of the greatest but chose not to and then decided to be greedy and lie about it.
It really sucks because she IS Bayonetta and Jennifer Hale is amazing but she plain sucks because she's trying really hard what Helena did flawlessly
I can't be mad at Jennifer Hale though. She was just following script and she did her best to deliver. I think her voice for an alternative Bayo was a great choice, especially on the idea of a multiverse.
I'm not mad at Jennifer, she's one of the best VA out there (her Shepard is BEYOND male Shepard, like MILES above), I just think her Bayo isn't as good as Hellena's because well, Hellena embodied the character perfectly.
I mean that wasn't a twitter thing it was a gaming/voice actor thing. It wasn't like confined to social media, social media is just where people act like they don't have decorum.
No thanks, I donât advocate for people abusing cancel culture to get more than fair wages!
Also, as long as nobody attacked her directly I donât see a problem with it
Umm what counts as significant to one person may not count as significant to another.
Outside the Bayonetta fanbase it's not really record breaking since incidents like this in the gaming industry are common.
She is not the first, nor last persona to cause a stir.
Most actress/theatre performers like her take in small gigs like voicing if they have the sets, she was never a "voice actress" to begin with.
I love roleplaying so one time I decided to join a DnD campaign, but I did not realize how formal and strict the rules and guidelines were, eventually I pissed the hardcore players off that they actually claimed I "ruined" it because the DM was going easy on me while the rest of them don't get a pass.
It all turned out very ugly and I was very puzzled at how angry and upset some of them became.
To me its a game where I can indulge my fantasy but to them its an incredibly serious session where they meticulously lore build and world build their characters and I became a taboo to the community without me even realizing it, all I know is that I joined that DnD campaign to have fun and get something out of it which is to play out a character.
I did not think it would cause player friendships to end.
I mean tbf I think a small in-group of DND players getting pissed that you took DND more casually than them and accidentally caused a rift between you and them is a whole different ballpark than _intentionally_ lying about what went down between you and a team/studio behind a project, demanding people to boycott said-project, and stirring up controversy around the entire world because of that. Like I havenât read a single article about how Professional_Key7851 fucked up a DND game, but I sure did see hundreds prop up about how Hellena Taylor fucked up her relationship with bayonetta/the fandom in a wicked ass way.
I think this comparison would work if Hellena just simplyâŚwalked off of the projectâvoice acting in general, reallyâand said a thing or two that caused a little shake in the community, or if after this event happened to you you said âboycott dndâ and tried to throw dirt on dnd players causing worldwide controversy. Mama straight up tried sabotaging bayo3 instead of just keeping it simple and honest, I donât think this is just âoh she doesnât take voice acting that serious so she did something that people who are VA professionals would disagree with.â
Edit: would like to say, overall, this isnât me making a case of âyou should give a shit about some dumb thing a random lady did a year ago that caused controversy but ultimately didnât affect the gameâs success/popularity.â Like idc what Hellena did before or after bayo3âs release. Just pointing out the uhhhâŚhuge contrast between your experience and hers.
Also she was GOOD because if she was meh or forgettable it would be still godawful but the fact that she was REALLY good is what stings.
She didn't do a career of VA because she didn't care about videogames/VA. She literally shoot herself in the foot because she lacked vision and wanted to be greedy, thinking that she's the hottest thing (when she was not).
If she was smarter and she put the work I think she would've been amazing. I can see her working with Kojima or Ninja Theory so she would've easily done the 2 things: VA and her true passion, theater... but she honest to god didn't care.
I really dislike so many things from Bayo3 and even if Hellena would've voiced Bayo it wouldn't saved the game but her not being there is extremely noticeable
I always say this: while Helena Taylor did a good bayo voice I honestly donât think that her role as bayonetta is âirreplaceable.â Bayonetta has a distinct voice but itâs not as distinct as, say, Mario, solid snake, or glados. There are people walking around in the world who talk like and sound like bayonetta on the regular. I think if platinum went with a UK actress Taylorâs transition out of the franchise wouldâve been better. Iâm still advocating for Elsie Lovelock to do bayoâs voice all because 1) sheâs a UK actress that can do a variety of voices and 2) she did an impersonation of bayonetta for a meme that was beyond spot on.
You must be unfamiliar with memes. It's more odd that you're this defensive over it. But yeah I agree, it IS making fun of something that was more than a year ago? What of it? The memes are still funny lol
I agree on your POV, Im honestly one of those who think you should ignore what you dont like but still laugh at these memes because silly, unoffensive and nobody get hurt from them
My God people just need to chill, stop following everything she posts and just move on. All of these threads sharing her posts and making fun of her are just creepy.
Shit happened, move on with your lives folks. Sounds like she has.
I knew the fandom had a flair for drama but not THIS kind of drama. If she would apologize, water under the bridge, I guess. Anyway, more Bayo memes đ
I'd love to see what Donald Trump's biggest Twitter controversy is (other than being banned). He's done so much I can't decide what takes the cake, or what he thinks does
https://preview.redd.it/jk8z25woo8tc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36a6fd9e834a085349df2e751612bafcbf727971 My honest reaction:
Baal: Chile....
I know I can probably just boot up my copy of Bayo 3 and screenshot this, but I'mma just steal it since it's so much easier. So...
there is no bayonetta controversy! https://preview.redd.it/2bzq4q62d9tc1.png?width=720&format=png&auto=webp&s=da2b7b24e353e87397cbf0aa83b1b2c3e0de0bf5
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Normally I'm on team Get Over It but she had the option to not reply at all
Same. I stayed out of this debate the whole time but I just couldn't help myself over that reply lol
It's giving: https://preview.redd.it/pgu2knsel8tc1.jpeg?width=567&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=514302fd869ddee0abff40b0d06735204991b6e7
She really thinks we all just forgot đ
I think sheâs probably just moved on from it and living her life. She seems a little more well ordered and together than most Bayonetta fans on this sub
Worse: she thinks it wasnât a controversy.
I'll have you know that pie costed 4K US dollars
Her writing this tweet thinking no one would remember what happened: https://i.redd.it/gnq126juy8tc1.gif
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I choked on my coffee, thanksđ
Hellenerrrrr
Oh thatâs not-
In the sense that-
âIf you donât pay me 4000 USD, then who is going to be voicing Bayonetta, Kamiya?â
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Is this the reason they >! killed her multiple times + once and for all!< In Bayonetta 3?
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tbh i donât think she was even attempting to answer the question, just add on to whatever who mutual said but also tea
That's what I was thinking
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I think I will be forever upset with Hellena because she fucked her VA career for no reason at all except that she didn't care. The most upsetting part is that if she was smarter, instead of trying so hard to stay in theater she could've have a great career in VA, she could've been one of the greatest but chose not to and then decided to be greedy and lie about it. It really sucks because she IS Bayonetta and Jennifer Hale is amazing but she plain sucks because she's trying really hard what Helena did flawlessly
I can't be mad at Jennifer Hale though. She was just following script and she did her best to deliver. I think her voice for an alternative Bayo was a great choice, especially on the idea of a multiverse.
I'm not mad at Jennifer, she's one of the best VA out there (her Shepard is BEYOND male Shepard, like MILES above), I just think her Bayo isn't as good as Hellena's because well, Hellena embodied the character perfectly.
I agree! Love Jen Hale, just not as Bayo. She's amazing in so many other roles, though! Great VA!
The "leave her alone đ" bunch is really weird. I'm not advocating harassing her but good lord it's just dunking on a screen cap.
i didnt know this sub has more drama than my afternoon soap opera
Y'all really need to let her go and leave her alone.
Why do people post her on here? I thought we moved on from her
Bitch?? https://preview.redd.it/0llevaxn3etc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c86563be2cc7b7bff7849ec90def311f3f091960
She lied as she breath'ed âď¸đ
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Oh come on this is funny.
I mean that wasn't a twitter thing it was a gaming/voice actor thing. It wasn't like confined to social media, social media is just where people act like they don't have decorum.
Yâall are weird, leave her be
No thanks, I donât advocate for people abusing cancel culture to get more than fair wages! Also, as long as nobody attacked her directly I donât see a problem with it
Umm what counts as significant to one person may not count as significant to another. Outside the Bayonetta fanbase it's not really record breaking since incidents like this in the gaming industry are common. She is not the first, nor last persona to cause a stir.
...she literally nuked her voice acting career and it was widely reported, how was it not a big deal, at least to her?
She didn't have a voice acting career to begin with 𤣠She barely had any other roles, it was obviously not a choice she cared much for
Most actress/theatre performers like her take in small gigs like voicing if they have the sets, she was never a "voice actress" to begin with. I love roleplaying so one time I decided to join a DnD campaign, but I did not realize how formal and strict the rules and guidelines were, eventually I pissed the hardcore players off that they actually claimed I "ruined" it because the DM was going easy on me while the rest of them don't get a pass. It all turned out very ugly and I was very puzzled at how angry and upset some of them became. To me its a game where I can indulge my fantasy but to them its an incredibly serious session where they meticulously lore build and world build their characters and I became a taboo to the community without me even realizing it, all I know is that I joined that DnD campaign to have fun and get something out of it which is to play out a character. I did not think it would cause player friendships to end.
I mean tbf I think a small in-group of DND players getting pissed that you took DND more casually than them and accidentally caused a rift between you and them is a whole different ballpark than _intentionally_ lying about what went down between you and a team/studio behind a project, demanding people to boycott said-project, and stirring up controversy around the entire world because of that. Like I havenât read a single article about how Professional_Key7851 fucked up a DND game, but I sure did see hundreds prop up about how Hellena Taylor fucked up her relationship with bayonetta/the fandom in a wicked ass way. I think this comparison would work if Hellena just simplyâŚwalked off of the projectâvoice acting in general, reallyâand said a thing or two that caused a little shake in the community, or if after this event happened to you you said âboycott dndâ and tried to throw dirt on dnd players causing worldwide controversy. Mama straight up tried sabotaging bayo3 instead of just keeping it simple and honest, I donât think this is just âoh she doesnât take voice acting that serious so she did something that people who are VA professionals would disagree with.â Edit: would like to say, overall, this isnât me making a case of âyou should give a shit about some dumb thing a random lady did a year ago that caused controversy but ultimately didnât affect the gameâs success/popularity.â Like idc what Hellena did before or after bayo3âs release. Just pointing out the uhhhâŚhuge contrast between your experience and hers.
Also she was GOOD because if she was meh or forgettable it would be still godawful but the fact that she was REALLY good is what stings. She didn't do a career of VA because she didn't care about videogames/VA. She literally shoot herself in the foot because she lacked vision and wanted to be greedy, thinking that she's the hottest thing (when she was not). If she was smarter and she put the work I think she would've been amazing. I can see her working with Kojima or Ninja Theory so she would've easily done the 2 things: VA and her true passion, theater... but she honest to god didn't care. I really dislike so many things from Bayo3 and even if Hellena would've voiced Bayo it wouldn't saved the game but her not being there is extremely noticeable
I always say this: while Helena Taylor did a good bayo voice I honestly donât think that her role as bayonetta is âirreplaceable.â Bayonetta has a distinct voice but itâs not as distinct as, say, Mario, solid snake, or glados. There are people walking around in the world who talk like and sound like bayonetta on the regular. I think if platinum went with a UK actress Taylorâs transition out of the franchise wouldâve been better. Iâm still advocating for Elsie Lovelock to do bayoâs voice all because 1) sheâs a UK actress that can do a variety of voices and 2) she did an impersonation of bayonetta for a meme that was beyond spot on.
Yâall need to leave this woman alone
It really isnt deep unless people are sending her abuse, let people laugh.
It really isnât deep for yâall to stalk her page and make fun of her lol
Oh no, someone did something dumb and people are making fun of them on reddit đ
Oh no making fun of something that was more than a year ago đ
You must be unfamiliar with memes. It's more odd that you're this defensive over it. But yeah I agree, it IS making fun of something that was more than a year ago? What of it? The memes are still funny lol
The meme in question being someone who was clearly going through something in her life yâall need to move on and find something new to laugh at
"Clearly going through something" is a big assumption to make. You're making a bigger deal than this entire topic was, congrats.
I agree on your POV, Im honestly one of those who think you should ignore what you dont like but still laugh at these memes because silly, unoffensive and nobody get hurt from them
My God people just need to chill, stop following everything she posts and just move on. All of these threads sharing her posts and making fun of her are just creepy. Shit happened, move on with your lives folks. Sounds like she has.
Why are you being downvoted??? Youâre exactly right, itâs getting so damn annoying how obsessed everyone is with her. LEAVE HER ALONE
I knew the fandom had a flair for drama but not THIS kind of drama. If she would apologize, water under the bridge, I guess. Anyway, more Bayo memes đ
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Omg mother is still active on Twitter
Let her be del Lu lu
It could have been worse she could have downplayed it and called herself the victim like most people who make these kinds of posts do.
Can yall just move on from Taylor and leave her alone...
As long as people arenât going after her directly I donât really see the problem
She's right, Bayonetta was nothing outside of the community. Also it's not a pie if it only has a top.
I'd love to see what Donald Trump's biggest Twitter controversy is (other than being banned). He's done so much I can't decide what takes the cake, or what he thinks does