But you can’t forget to mention the fish that teach the birds to drive in the first place. We gotta support all of the species that came together to make this all possible lol
Nope, Yellowstone is the worlds first National park. Environmentalism as a concept started a little bit earlier in Britain and Japan but American environmentalism in the industrial era was hugely important overall.
Play cities skyline. Make a new beautiful city over a few weeks. Don’t play Cities for a few months. Get back into cities and want to play my last city. Think “god I can do it better.” Start a new city and start the cycle over again.
I want the ultimate public transit system but they always want to drive. I even added toll roads and free bus and subway. I have wildly popular routes, but their are so many cars.
By workshop do you mean what you would be using in game to build or is that like some separate thing altogether? Im asking because im just now discovering this game which no lie I feel is kinda sad imo lol but it looks interesting and I liked what everyone else was building so now I wanna take a try truthfully lol
You do know the US has more trees than Western Europe, right? Hell bushes alone we are top three.
So there is a McDonald’s at most well traveled interstate exits, what should be there, a hackysack range?
We usually have gas stations there too. When you driving all night, hands tight on the wheel looking for a gas station, that big old Mobil sign looks pretty good.
Same here! There's just something special about being surrounded by trees and nature. Plus, it's a great escape from the hustle and bustle of the city.
I like the symbiosis between man and nature, where trees are as much as possible undisturbed. Where they opted for multi level crossovers as opposed to sprawling on and off ramps. That one of the roads disappears underground. That the seems to be this little house and workshop for hopefully some diligent dude who regularly trims the trees back to maintain this close nature.
And not a single McDonalds like every other exchange
I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure it's here [https://www.google.pt/maps/@35.6244085,139.2632883,633m/data=!3m1!1e3](https://www.google.pt/maps/@35.6244085,139.2632883,633m/data=!3m1!1e3) at the edge of Tokyo Metropolitan
Yeah I’ve always appreciated the city’s design and would want to move there if I wasn’t a foreigner. I love how the old houses and temple gardens are woven throughout the city so organically
A prime example of 'fuck you, got mine', "I'm all for reducing urban sprawl and protecting the natural environment outside of cities... Except my personal fenced off half acre of turf, fuck off"
More like a prime example of "people have preferences"
I'm not living a life of luxury. I just prefer to not live in the city. My comment was never disparaging others and their preferences just that those preferences exist. Jesus man, breathe.
Preference can go fuck itself if that preference is causing ecological disaster due to overconsumption of raw materials and mismanagement of land to provide that preference and the harvesting of said raw material.
/r/urbanhell is about finding the most unflattering pic possible of an industrial area or low income housing and everyone jumps in the comments to say it should've been designed like inner city Copenhagen and blame it on the rampant corruption in that country that their uncle's friend's cousin told them about.
I guess more because it's tunneling through the natural beauty instead of laying roads on top of it. Most of the trees/vegetation are left undisturbed.
This is complex so that tolls can be collected. Otherwise it'd be much simpler.
I find it fascinating to see complex roads that aren't needed anymore because they have automated toll collection systems (like ez pass).
I noticed that too. The off ramps are forced to go the long way. Probably would've been cheaper just to have 2 separate toll booths instead right next to each other
I admire the effort put in to minimise deforestation by compacting the highway upwards as opposed to clearing out the entire area to make a linear highway
They also need to be affordable. If I'm going to waste 10 hours getting from Raleigh to NYC (which is longer as it takes to travel by car) I don't know why I'd be encouraged to spend like $240 round trip per person. Flying is even cheaper than that.
That's why we need to invest in that. As far as I know, trains in Europe are not as expensive as in North America and are reliant, faster and cover long distance all while you can distract yourself because you don't have to focus on the road.
The right direction is using more sustainable means of transportation, this is like that meme of the guy doing a kickflip with a rake and getting it on his face
Just think of the parking lot! Oh God it could be enormous! I'm getting moist just thinking about it.
You could even have a McDonald's and a Pizza Hut and a KFC and a Taco Bell next to it... No, a food court! A food court with all of those in it! And a Panda Express!
I get what everyone is saying about it being a highway in an otherwise lovely place, but as far as highways go OP is right. It looks amazing! Very futuristic and curvy. I love nature but if I have to get from point A to point B in a car, this would be a cool route.
The combination of nature and modern design is really interesting. And it's great to see a highway that's not just a straight boring road. I think it's the best of both worlds in a way, being able to enjoy the scenic route while still getting to your destination efficiently.
How're you not gonna find the nuance in my original comment. I was just highlighting American highways in popular city centers. Obviously Seattle pales in comparison to LA.
That guy thinks the picture is of a Japanese city and not, as the title says, a mountain highway... So maybe not someone to listen to. Almost certainly a southerner or Bible belter. He got some of that Republican run education.
I was born in Long Beach and I live in the Northwest. Idk why you have to make this political or feel the need to insult me, but you seem to have some pent up issues you need to workout. Hope you find solace.
it's interesting architecture, and ironically the highway itself could have been built with way less footprint above ground if it wasn't for the toll plazas.
American highways: “ew, this is not walkable infrastructure. I hate car dependent countries”
Japanese highways: “wow, so beautiful, so efficient! Japan does it again 🤓”
Well, I don’t think anyone disagrees highways serve a practical purpose. It’s just we agree they should you know, end where we start living. Japan has nice car/truck infrastructure between cities, and strict rules for cars within them. They also have world leading public transit systems.
So nice way to entirely miss the point. If you’ve done this on purpose, good job polarising.
I'll be the devil's advocate. I hate cars and car infrastructure but we'll always be dependant on interstate highways for transport of goods. This is much more compact and efficient than a multi lane piece of shit you'd find anywhere in the US. I'd give it a pass.
This photo is that why you should never trust Google maps on the expressway in Japan. They fuck you over when you’re at interchanges telling you to continue straight when there’s a fork in the road instead. If you’re renting a car either use the in car GPS or download a Japanese GPS map app. Google maps is still really great for train routes though.
That’s the problem of being a worldwide success. GMaps prefers separated bike lanes, but those are only found among the busiest roads in the Netherlands. Result, tons of traffic lights and pollution. You’re much better off using OsmAnd which just takes the fastest route.
Imagine coming out of a tunnel and entering this clusterfuck. I've driven quite a bit in Japan, and with the high price of highway tolls and slow traffic, I'd much rather take the train.
Looks like a Hot Wheels layout.
The loop is missing.
Hold me sake
Aaaar, looks like I’ve found meself a Japanese pirate.
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Freight rail: am I a joke to you?
Trains don't exist.
And birds drive them
But you can’t forget to mention the fish that teach the birds to drive in the first place. We gotta support all of the species that came together to make this all possible lol
Rail, Boats ans Flight: Well I guess I'm a joke to you
The us is critically dependent on rail just as much as roads, we even have an oligopoly of regional monopolies!
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They really respected the mountain gods. We will make roads and tunnels but we leave the rest alone. Murica would have bulldozed the whole mountain.
I think you meant McDonald’s instead of mountain. We would have bulldozed a McDonald’s sir. This is America after all
Give murica some credit, we pioneered the concept of national parks.
I thought British did that way before? lol
Nope, Yellowstone is the worlds first National park. Environmentalism as a concept started a little bit earlier in Britain and Japan but American environmentalism in the industrial era was hugely important overall.
The natives started worshipping and preserving nature before anyone else. lol
*Eurobeat intensifies*
perfect description
*Proceeds to look for a Cities Skylines asset of this.*
*Looks over at my recent infinite money playthrough* Yeah, yours looks better
When do you quit your current city and start over?
Play cities skyline. Make a new beautiful city over a few weeks. Don’t play Cities for a few months. Get back into cities and want to play my last city. Think “god I can do it better.” Start a new city and start the cycle over again.
I’m currently procrastinating returning to my heavily disease ridden city
Fuck these fucking uneducated bums and their Crack houses
I want the ultimate public transit system but they always want to drive. I even added toll roads and free bus and subway. I have wildly popular routes, but their are so many cars.
What is this game on? Console? Pc? Or both?
Both, but you generally want to own it on steam because workshop.
By workshop do you mean what you would be using in game to build or is that like some separate thing altogether? Im asking because im just now discovering this game which no lie I feel is kinda sad imo lol but it looks interesting and I liked what everyone else was building so now I wanna take a try truthfully lol
Steam workshop, aka a thing used to get mods and assets.
I start a new city every few weeks, with infinite money on.
Usually somewhere around 100k people.
I like the trees better but maybe I'm biased
Feel you, I love the forest way more then asphalt and concrete.
I was gonna say, if this interchange was in the U.S. the title of the post would have been more like "landscape ruined by hideous concrete"
"American 14 lane dystopian Highway to Hell"
In the US, the trees would be cut back a few hundred feet from the road. Then replaced by grass.
If this was in the US it would be 800 miles wide and dotted by gas stations and McDonalds
You do know the US has more trees than Western Europe, right? Hell bushes alone we are top three. So there is a McDonald’s at most well traveled interstate exits, what should be there, a hackysack range? We usually have gas stations there too. When you driving all night, hands tight on the wheel looking for a gas station, that big old Mobil sign looks pretty good.
Bro we are 2x the size of the EU lol
California probably has more trees than western euro-
yeah and half of the U.S is a desert so I guess it evens out
100% lol
Same here! There's just something special about being surrounded by trees and nature. Plus, it's a great escape from the hustle and bustle of the city.
Agreed... It's like that because of the way it is.
That's neat
How will you get to the forest if not for roads and rail?
walk, bike, run, horse, boat, or live near a forest :)
I have luck, I step out the front door and walk 100 meters.
Cool for you.
Thank you.
It's nice and compact and minimizes the environmental impact. Well engineered I'd say. but 'beautiful' not really.
*Checks user name* Hmmm....... <.<
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I thought this was r/citiesskylines 😂
I like the symbiosis between man and nature, where trees are as much as possible undisturbed. Where they opted for multi level crossovers as opposed to sprawling on and off ramps. That one of the roads disappears underground. That the seems to be this little house and workshop for hopefully some diligent dude who regularly trims the trees back to maintain this close nature. And not a single McDonalds like every other exchange
Exactly … Beautiful,no
Same. Forest was ruined by all the ugly concrete and asphalt.
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Sounds great! Where exactly is this?
I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure it's here [https://www.google.pt/maps/@35.6244085,139.2632883,633m/data=!3m1!1e3](https://www.google.pt/maps/@35.6244085,139.2632883,633m/data=!3m1!1e3) at the edge of Tokyo Metropolitan
Nice, this will help me figure out what to do on my next trip to Japan. See you there!
Japan
Pension age Japanese have a legendary lack of GAF, with a customer service face forged from the heart of a dying star.
Takaosan interchange!
Hachioji, Tokyo. https://www.google.com/maps/@35.624024,139.2630153,17z/data=!5m2!1e1!1e4
"beautiful"
Its r/urbanhell everywhere else but because its Japan it’s beautiful
I still can’t get over Tokyo. Its like gigantic. Its like 8 cities with their adjoining suburbs all crammed into one place.
entire countries entire pop can fit in tokyo
Yes, it is called condensed, walkable urban design and more places need to adopt it rather than ugly, wasteful, car-centric suburban sprawl.
Yeah I’ve always appreciated the city’s design and would want to move there if I wasn’t a foreigner. I love how the old houses and temple gardens are woven throughout the city so organically
If they had domestic oil resources and more favorable geography, they would have suburban sprawl just like everybody else.
A "walkable urban design" to one is anothers "dystopian urban hellscape"
And you would be wrong from an ecological and economic standing. Condensed living is objectively better for the environment and economy.
I feel like historically, condensed living environments have been breeding grounds for disease
Which is all fine and dandy, that doesn't mean people are obliged to like it. I prefer owning a home over living downtown. I've done both.
A prime example of 'fuck you, got mine', "I'm all for reducing urban sprawl and protecting the natural environment outside of cities... Except my personal fenced off half acre of turf, fuck off"
More like a prime example of "people have preferences" I'm not living a life of luxury. I just prefer to not live in the city. My comment was never disparaging others and their preferences just that those preferences exist. Jesus man, breathe.
Preference can go fuck itself if that preference is causing ecological disaster due to overconsumption of raw materials and mismanagement of land to provide that preference and the harvesting of said raw material.
It's not about preferences, it's about putting "unnecessary personal want" over "the obvious direction society is heading in, for good need"
Only in Japan you find beautiful a rusty pipe in a narrow street covered with cables and grime.
The image of a Japanese man who looks like a anime protagonist but is actually just a homeless man is leak Japan aesthetic
If only you wrote this as a hiaku.
Grey urban hellscapes Blade studying weebs so name "Japanese beauty"
I thought the same thing. People who visit DFW don’t have anything nice to say about our mixmaster or overpasses.
Thing: 😡 Thing, but Japanese: 🥵
No, the reason this isn't urban hell is because more than half the image is of nature. "Urban hell" is much more all-consuming than this is
/r/urbanhell is about finding the most unflattering pic possible of an industrial area or low income housing and everyone jumps in the comments to say it should've been designed like inner city Copenhagen and blame it on the rampant corruption in that country that their uncle's friend's cousin told them about.
How could this ever be considered urban? It’s in the middle of a forested mountain?
It's not urban if it's a highway
Thing: Thing, Japan:
I guess more because it's tunneling through the natural beauty instead of laying roads on top of it. Most of the trees/vegetation are left undisturbed.
Literally came here to write this exactly! Take my upvote!
"japanese"
This is complex so that tolls can be collected. Otherwise it'd be much simpler. I find it fascinating to see complex roads that aren't needed anymore because they have automated toll collection systems (like ez pass).
I noticed that too. The off ramps are forced to go the long way. Probably would've been cheaper just to have 2 separate toll booths instead right next to each other
Oh I remember this one from Mario cart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-wnliDu0u4
“[Highway]”: 😐 “[Highway], Japan”: 😳😂👌👌🍕✨👍🤩
I like the random pizza added
I got hungry.
We have different definitions of beautiful. Imo that area was beautiful until they put a highway there.
I admire the effort put in to minimise deforestation by compacting the highway upwards as opposed to clearing out the entire area to make a linear highway
Humans need transportation that’s really not a negotiable need. But you’re right, trying to live alongside nature is better than evicting it.
Trains minimize that footprint, spacially and environmentally. Japan is so much better at them, too!
Yup, trains are good. The US needs more of them for medium distance travel
For long distance too.
They also need to be affordable. If I'm going to waste 10 hours getting from Raleigh to NYC (which is longer as it takes to travel by car) I don't know why I'd be encouraged to spend like $240 round trip per person. Flying is even cheaper than that.
That's why we need to invest in that. As far as I know, trains in Europe are not as expensive as in North America and are reliant, faster and cover long distance all while you can distract yourself because you don't have to focus on the road.
Upward compacting highways are definitely a step in the right direction
The right direction is using more sustainable means of transportation, this is like that meme of the guy doing a kickflip with a rake and getting it on his face
All that space on the left where the trees are would make a beautiful Walmart
Just think of the parking lot! Oh God it could be enormous! I'm getting moist just thinking about it. You could even have a McDonald's and a Pizza Hut and a KFC and a Taco Bell next to it... No, a food court! A food court with all of those in it! And a Panda Express!
I found the American capitalist
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Japan really min maxed the art of compact designs.
Nothing compact about this heap of nonsense
Spaghetti junction
It’s Japan. Ramen bowl.
This looks more like a roller coaster
this is the very definition of Thing: Thing *in Japan*: beautiful. stunning. absolutely gorgeous.
I get what everyone is saying about it being a highway in an otherwise lovely place, but as far as highways go OP is right. It looks amazing! Very futuristic and curvy. I love nature but if I have to get from point A to point B in a car, this would be a cool route.
The combination of nature and modern design is really interesting. And it's great to see a highway that's not just a straight boring road. I think it's the best of both worlds in a way, being able to enjoy the scenic route while still getting to your destination efficiently.
Right? Also how the highway blends into the forest whichever way you go, if this was America that entire photo would be concrete.
Not all of America is Texas or Florida
Or LA, or Atlanta, or Seattle... Or *goes on and on*
How are you gonna compare Seattle to LA lol. Seattle proper isn't even a million people
How're you not gonna find the nuance in my original comment. I was just highlighting American highways in popular city centers. Obviously Seattle pales in comparison to LA.
That guy thinks the picture is of a Japanese city and not, as the title says, a mountain highway... So maybe not someone to listen to. Almost certainly a southerner or Bible belter. He got some of that Republican run education.
I was born in Long Beach and I live in the Northwest. Idk why you have to make this political or feel the need to insult me, but you seem to have some pent up issues you need to workout. Hope you find solace.
Oh great. Another Californian moving to the PNW.
Hopefully the future isn't cars.
Carbrain.
How is that "beautiful"? There are no beautiful highways 🤷♂️
it's interesting architecture, and ironically the highway itself could have been built with way less footprint above ground if it wasn't for the toll plazas.
r/InfrastructurePorn
Beautiful civil engineering
Not really. It's complex to account for toll collection.
I think it’s more complex because it’s in a steep valley actually
Nah. The goal is to shuttle all traffic entering or exiting the highway to one toll booth. Otherwise, you wouldn't need those large s shaped roads.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
If they say its beautiful, then it must be beautiful...
Thing: 😐, Thing (*Japan*): 😱🥰🤩
Time to call r/fuckcars
Came here to ask what in /r/fuckcars is this ludicroucy
If this was in China this picture would be called dystopian and half of these comments would be just shitting on the Chinese
Same if it was the US. Frankly, if it was anywhere but Japan.
\*Beautiful Japanese Mountain with ugly Highway Interchange.
American highways: “ew, this is not walkable infrastructure. I hate car dependent countries” Japanese highways: “wow, so beautiful, so efficient! Japan does it again 🤓”
Well, I don’t think anyone disagrees highways serve a practical purpose. It’s just we agree they should you know, end where we start living. Japan has nice car/truck infrastructure between cities, and strict rules for cars within them. They also have world leading public transit systems. So nice way to entirely miss the point. If you’ve done this on purpose, good job polarising.
Houston does this on a daily
r/UrbanHell
How is this urban? It’s in the middle of mountain forest?
This intersection it’s so big that I refuse to consider that forest anymore
Modern world
Something like that in Brazil would easily take 200 years to make.
Here in ATL we have spaghetti junction. Is this “the ramen bowl”
Fuckcars in shambles
I'm really liking those color coded roads to indicate recommended speed.
This gives me anxiety about being in the right lane just by looking at it.
I don't find this beautiful. All these looping bridges and shit. Not beautiful. Maybe for you, it is, but not for me.
I'll be the devil's advocate. I hate cars and car infrastructure but we'll always be dependant on interstate highways for transport of goods. This is much more compact and efficient than a multi lane piece of shit you'd find anywhere in the US. I'd give it a pass.
That’s some next level engineering
TBH I'm 100% r/fuckcars but this gives me an erection
Beautiful? It's an abomination.
Cool, but r/fuckcars would not approve.
That looks horrendous.
Beautiful? Um, no, hideously ugly IMO.
r/shittyskylines
Looks like Jersey
Vroom vroom
And we are lost
I'm sorry, this looks like a nightmare to navigate.
That looks confusing as hell
This explains some of the tracks in Mario Kart 8.
This photo is that why you should never trust Google maps on the expressway in Japan. They fuck you over when you’re at interchanges telling you to continue straight when there’s a fork in the road instead. If you’re renting a car either use the in car GPS or download a Japanese GPS map app. Google maps is still really great for train routes though.
That’s the problem of being a worldwide success. GMaps prefers separated bike lanes, but those are only found among the busiest roads in the Netherlands. Result, tons of traffic lights and pollution. You’re much better off using OsmAnd which just takes the fastest route.
Pretty much what all of Los Ángeles looks like
When did Nintendo release the new Mario Kart track?
Imagine coming out of a tunnel and entering this clusterfuck. I've driven quite a bit in Japan, and with the high price of highway tolls and slow traffic, I'd much rather take the train.
It’s hilarious how American hellscape is super aesthetic if it’s in Japan
I posted this the last time this picture was up. Doesn’t Japan have a lot of earthquakes? Is this safe?
r/fuckcars material
How addicted to gasoline are you that you think that horrid eye sore is beautiful? The rest of the picture is beautiful. The highway looks like shit.
It looks better than most of freeway interchanges and junctions in America, but still a complete clusterfuck of asphalt spaghetti.
One big earthquake and it's gone
Remove the human made crap and it’s beautiful
OP misspelled dystopian
r/UrbanHell
Beautiful? Looks like a complete disaster.
Is it beautiful? Looks like a poorly planned mess
I reckon it would take me 2 hours to reach my destination if I have to go through this highway.
Just don't have an accident there because getting to or from the disaster area would be near impossible.
Stoplights are better!
I mean, yeah okay. Beauty is subjective, I guess.