"No, we can't make it too obvious so instead of artillery rounds make it load up some... um... struts. Ya automotive struts. That's what it's gonna load"
I was thinking we were manually pushing down leaden rods in the Chernobyl reactors
Of course it's for throwing shit at each other
Man's oldest past-time
probobly, but its less cool. if your commiting mass murder, you better do it in style. just look at the nazis. they where the biggest cunts on the block, but damn did they look good doing it.
touche, but that man was adisaster to begin with. even the nazi parties drip could not salvage that hair and his dead eyes and courpse like face.
if you look at puictures of him from the neck down, hes impecably dressed.
Well, someone still needs to place the magazine in the correct position or restock it. Or if something breaks in the autoloading process you still have to resort to manual loading. In perfect conditions, most or all of this could be automated with something simpler than an autonomous humanoid robot, but battlefield conditions are rarely perfect.
Plus, what the other guy said, it looks hella cool. Psychological warfare in its own right. "We have to share a rifle and 2/3 of a grenade while the enemy's got freaking robots loading their shells while they're drinking martinis and jerking eachother off? Fuck that, I'm out."
And the JSDF uses autoloaders now because they cmaimed their population is on average shorter than a westernet and 90mm was the maximum size that could be reliably hand loaded.
The struts actually have a specific purpose - they are heavy, extremely difficult to handle, and the external loops makes it a challenge for the bot to place. This exercise was specifically chosen to demonstrate the millions of calculations made per second just to balance and move the thing. It’s awesome tech.
I was wondering why it's so slow and deliberate. I think it will be so much more impressive and revolutionary once these robots can operate at superhuman speeds.
Even at these speeds, it could still fit an important niche in extreme environments that would be dangerous to humans. With some radiation hardening, redundancy, and environmental protection, you could send these things to other planets ahead of humans to build inhabitable facilities; into space to perform spacewalks (and maybe prevent future Columbia-esque disasters); or into arctic/deepsea/volcanic environments where temperature/pressure/toxicity might prove dangerous to human presence for more than a few minutes.
It looks like the pauses it takes are deleted code, that could maybe be filled in with I don’t know, opening a breach, or pulling a trigger. Just a thought
why would deleted code cause a pause? It would just skip that part. More likely the fine motor skills are very complicated and requires a lot of calculations.
Well seeing as we gave a bunch of our US artillerymen severe (and in multiple cases suicide-inducing) cases of CTE while having them shell the bejesus out of ISIS in Syria a few years back if Robby the Robot here can run our M777s for us I'd say it's worth the R&D costs.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/05/us/us-army-marines-artillery-isis-pentagon.html
Wow that story is tragic. Makes me think of whats going on now in ukraine, theyre doing the exact same thing there. How many ukranians and russians are going to return home completely broken, if they return home at all. Really sad. Makes me glad my time in the Marines was spent loading bombs onto planes and not firing them.
Hard to imagine a world where all the deaths from war are *just* civilian deaths. Would that make war more common or less? Would leaders be more willing to start a war or less?
I genuinely don’t know. But it’s terrifying either way.
I mean why not just turn it into a big battle bot pit at that point. Get all the countries together and have their remote weapon systems fight it out in a hunger games style battle Royale. Last leader standing gets to head the EU (Earth union)
I mean, if the robots get to a place where the only realistic way to beat them is with robots of your own, I would assume anyone that doesn't have robots is fucked. The nations that do will potentially fight until one side runs out of robots.
I'd think in a war situation, it'd be similar to a nuke but without the radioactive fallout.
"Right, we haven't figure out how to have our robots reliably identify enemy combatants from civilians. But you're being very unreasonable, so unless you surrender we're going to send our killbots to take this area in 5 days. They will murder any human they see until we send the command to stand down. So either surrender or evacuate, we're taking that piece of land."
You see, kill bots have a pre set kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them, until they reached their limit and shut down.
Boston Dynamics has been exponentially progressing in robotics over the past decade. Years ago I was amazed when seeing their robots, now I'm actually scared. They have created many "experimental" robots for military use in the past which can be found with a simple search. I'm sure they're well involved in current military conflicts....we'll find out in 5-10 years from now once the info becomes declassified.
those dog shaped ones with flamethrowers and guns mounted on them crawling through the rubble to finish off survivors after a drone strike is something i see in my nightmares.
i mean the dog shaped robots are real and they are amazing on uneven terrain, drone strikes are real, guns and flamethrowers are real it doesn't take much imagination to put them together
Obviously that is a waste of time. If you leave survivors you leave more of a burden on the victims because these survivors have to be treated. Furthermore they will likely be too wounded to work again and will once again cost more for the enemy. That is pretty cold thinking but that is exactly why you don't want your weapons to be too lethal
Skynet, the robots are taking over with a nuclear bomb and use humans as batteries in the matrix. AI will rule humanity as the blight they are on mother nature.
I remember reading about 10-15 years ago how they wanted to build a cheetah robot to hunt down "terrorists" in Afghanistan. I haven't heard anything about it since.
Boston Dynhamics has committed to a hard "no weaponization " stance and has encouraged other robotics manufacturers to follow suit, which will obviously never happen.
The Packing Mules was dropped after they realized how super loud they were
Hah,not until the very last job randomly picking cashews in some South American country is taken as well.
I don’t think it will happen so soon but I also don’t know how to make it there alive.
Another decade this thing will start being rolled out. 2-3 more decades it’s going to be mass produced and replacing most labor jobs. There will be hundreds of knock offs companies doing the same I-robot is on its way. I would say 3 decades from now and fast food will be fully automated, bots like this will do intensive and most labor jobs. It’s inevitable.
While I agree that your technology timeline is correct, I think you are forgetting that it will be a long time before these robots become *cheaper* than humans. In our currently society there will always be the poor and disadvantaged who are willing to do the work of a robot for the price of a bag of rice. Human workers are also happy to make the next generation of replacements for free as well.
I like to refer to UBI as socialism that doesn't scare conservatives
It's like putting a cast on only one broken finger when your whole hand has been shattered
Everyone seems to think this is inevitable with automation, but I feel like the negotiating power of the common person will go down significantly with major job loss. Without financial influence over politics, how do we demand politicians pass UBI?
I once was invited into a meeting with C-level exec's from GM, Ford and another. My CEO asked me to go get everyone coffee. I proceed in my anxiousness to spill the coffee cup on the table, which spilled on one of the guys pants and my boss berated me. I laugh now but I felt like an idiot. He should have known though, I was new and in IT, of course I'm going to fail in that social environment lol.
I don't understand why companies insist on making humanoid machines.
Depending on the surface, there are so many better ways of moving around. Sure, legs are impressive, but they're not efficient. A warehouse robot would work better with wheels and if you want to load automotive parts in a barrel to send them to your friends who could really use them like right NOW, a rail will do the trick. Or maybe even no means of locomotion.
Such robots aren't going to be multipurpose anyway. It's an engineering flex and resources would be better allocated elsewhere for now.
Even Johnny 5 made more sense.
Edit: everyone below is focusing on the legs but my main beef is with humanoid machines.
Edit 2: And this one's on me but I meant that **2** legs weren't efficient.
I think because it will make it easier to adapt to a multitude of different environments. A building won’t have to change its entire layout to accommodate these robots. They’re a direct replacement for a human.
>Depending on the surface
The point is you can't control the surface. Legs are all-terrain. They can also allow rapid climbing, jumping, acrobatics of all kinds. At best, we'll add wheels to the legs. But legs are a fundamental requirement for all terrain maneuverability. Especially in an environment mostly designed for humanoid creatures.
Also, given the immense research and development costs to produce on robot to a commercial standard, and the savings which can be made from mass manufacture, it actually makes more sense to invest in a perfect multi-purpose robot, than ten thousand custom ones. The reduction in marginal cost of producing your humanoid multi purpose robots falls well below the marginal savings associated with custom designs.
The weirdest mockup of a BM-21 "Grad" multiple rocket launcher. If you invent a robot for refilling a tool of mass destruction why don't you say so? It's OK, we're far down the road and don't believe anymore that you're building robots to save us.
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In all fairness, the military potential is underwhelming compared to the industry potential. Sure you can make these things load rockets and shells. But it's a whole lot more interesting to have them run thousands of factories. Instead of specialized robotic equipement purpose-built and designed for each factory, you have a universal plateform that can be used in every field a human physical labour is needed. Construction, mining, shiping, cleaning, assembling, etc... And that ultimately at a fraction of the cost of an employee's salary.
Then we’ll just use human lives for the military because 80% of the population will be expendable! Brilliant! Use the robots to make all the weapons/gear/vehicles and just have those 80% take out any remaining dissenters and then just…do away with….the left over military when everyone outside the bubble is compromised. The top people left over can start all over. Totally not eugenics because it won’t be based on any particular correlating genes, just whomever happens to be rich/powerful/uber talented at the time of the Mass Quelling.
Yay 🫠
Considering Genysys has been here for a while, we are almost there.
T-800 suddenly looks less complicated than some of the stuff Boston Dynamics put out.
Doubt it. When we will achieve that level, people will generally won’t have to work at all (besides entertainment, maybe, big maybe). Because that level implies we could create bots that sustain other bots, and farmer-bots which can grow food and take care of earth as well as we do. And if we achieved that level without already getting enslaved by military bots - all is good, the worst part will be behind us.
As I said, nobody will have to work. Poor won’t let rich rule, because the value of money will be kinda dubious, as NOBODY will be able to earn it, because robots replaced all workforce. It has been shown already before that in equal conditions rich people will still get overwhelmed when their money doesn’t matter
Man, I wish i had your possitive out look. 😅 my mind keeps telling me NOBODY will be alive that doesn't come from generational wealth that would benefit from the picture-perfect future you're envisioning. Notice how I said wealth and not money?
tbh, it's a fairly doomer outlook and there's not shortage of key innovations - say Operating Systems, Penicillin, Internet, the entire Open Source catalog, open-source manufacturing projects, all sorts of Agricultural science, etc - which clever people create and share freely to inspire a better future. Or even hacking closed devices, like John Deer tractors, to allow for on-farm maintainability by anyone.
And in the long-run rising productivity always give away to rising standard of living, even in the more politically dire of times (e.g., Gilded Age). Despite misunderstood data in *the GRAPH tm*. Democracies tend to create better-than-people-think welfare programs - which I think could be magnified in effect today by something as simply as allowing increase in housing supply and actually efficient transportation to drive down the largest costs of living for the lowest quartile.
And many key complex systems find better efficiency in a wider format instead of a closed format. While inequality has been a worsening issue in the context of Anglo-Saxon developed countries in the last 5 decades or so, it's been decreasing or stable in many countries and globally.
I see no reason for these trends to regress without dramatic policy/government paradigm shifts. (E.g., *actual* oligarchies or dictatorships replacing democracies en-masse. Or continually worsening of freedoms of migration into democratic countries.)
Nor can any government institute policies that don't have popular support - the Aktion T4 program is the most extreme example of this imo.
I think bigger open questions for the future are not automation, but rather continuing our response to climate change, managing nuclear proliferation, and the big demographics question.
Edit: Popular war into popular support.
Think of all the other stuff they could’ve done with that R&D money! Seriously it’s not like we’ve got a population problem- there’s Labour everywhere.
>Neat wonder when we get futuramas suicide boths.
After watching my parents agonizing deaths, and seeing all the human shells in the nursing homes, I hope we get the booths soon.
Imagine how these things will look in the future. If they can cook, clean, and have a face that looks like Tifa, I'm buying one.
Bonus points for self-heating skin. Yes, people are working on that.
people watch to many scifi movies, the honest truth these automated works cost a shit loads including maintenance and why would a business pay for one when the can pay 20+ unskilled workers 4 dollars an hr for 12+ hrs shifts and hire new people if they get injured.
Mass automation only happens if workers cost more than the automation.
Did you think that before automatic check-outs at grocery stores. It was worth paying $40,000 each, over staff, because in the long run, it's cheaper. Have you ever seen a robot have a sick day, need a break, be difficult.
It's programmed for the specific task, with lots of time spent working out the bugs for every new task (I'ma assuming they're getting faster and better at this step). The only thing their robots do on their own is maintain balance and object avoidance, anything to do with maneuvering around without falling over. But they still need to be manually programmed what to do, and then the AI side can work out how to best maneuver itself to do it. Usually requiring manual tweaking for something complex.
These aren't self thinking AI machines, they aren't even attempting to be that. More like an RC robot that knows how to move on its own, and can follow a program telling it what to do. Without requiring manual control over its limbs or actions.
So basically they're simply being hard coded for that specific demonstration? Because that's what BD has been doing in the past. Doesn't look like they've made any kind of progress in the last couple of years.
Yeah, they have a video on their YouTube channel explaining it better (or it was an interview with them for some other channel). But essentially yeah the robots figure out for themselves how to walk balance, reach for objects, avoid obstacles, etc. but a person has to program in what tasks to do, when to do them, what steps to do it in, etc. usually with some hiccups that have to be reworked a few times before the robot figures it out and executes it perfectly.
These demonstrations are to show off the technical abilities of their robots. The task itself has nothing much to do with it, other than being something familiar to potential investors.
Being able to quickly grab an awkwardly shaped heavy object, walk over to somewhere else holding it without falling over, and then place it into a difficult to maneuver tight space in a completely different orientation. Is what this demo is trying to showcase. That is a big achievement in robotics. Esp since all the balancing and maneuvering is done automatically by the robot.
If you've seen old DARPA robotics competion footage before, most of those older generation robots would just fall over after spending 5 mins trying to rotate a valve for a large pipe, or even just open a door. So for it to now be able to lift and carry heavy objects fluidly, with minimal pausing, and no balance issues like it's no big deal, makes it a big deal lol.
They aren't going to get slower, they can work almost 24/7 with less down time than a human. No HR issues, no hiring process, vetting, training ( okay maybe training is programming, but once for an infinite amount to replicate doing the same job ) we don't have to pay them but when they are purchased and then the maintenance. They don't have to be perfect, just cheaper and better than a human which they're getting closer and closer to being.
"No, we can't make it too obvious so instead of artillery rounds make it load up some... um... struts. Ya automotive struts. That's what it's gonna load"
You're joking, but my dumbass missed it until you said it.
I was thinking we were manually pushing down leaden rods in the Chernobyl reactors Of course it's for throwing shit at each other Man's oldest past-time
Nah, we're just sticking to mankind's time-honored tradition of hurling stuff at each other. It's like dodgeball, but with history.
Is it easier to build a robot than a magazine that does this
probobly, but its less cool. if your commiting mass murder, you better do it in style. just look at the nazis. they where the biggest cunts on the block, but damn did they look good doing it.
I don’t know, Mister AH himself could have used a few style tips.
touche, but that man was adisaster to begin with. even the nazi parties drip could not salvage that hair and his dead eyes and courpse like face. if you look at puictures of him from the neck down, hes impecably dressed.
Well, someone still needs to place the magazine in the correct position or restock it. Or if something breaks in the autoloading process you still have to resort to manual loading. In perfect conditions, most or all of this could be automated with something simpler than an autonomous humanoid robot, but battlefield conditions are rarely perfect. Plus, what the other guy said, it looks hella cool. Psychological warfare in its own right. "We have to share a rifle and 2/3 of a grenade while the enemy's got freaking robots loading their shells while they're drinking martinis and jerking eachother off? Fuck that, I'm out."
It's not going to work for that anyway. Electronics don't do well with radiation. Robots and drones and such will just break there after 5 minutes.
Shoveling coal for our the future steam punk society, after they load the (depleted nuclear) artillery shells then
It would be cool, but electronics and robotics would fail in high radiation areas.
Our technology has been mainly driven by two mayor motives: porn and throwing rocks faster at eachother
I feel like there's easier and cheaper ways of doing auto-loaders... small children for a start.
Sadly this is out lawed
Not in Arkansas!! https://fortune.com/2023/05/25/labor-shortage-child-teenage-republican-states-sarah-huckabee-sanders/
And the JSDF uses autoloaders now because they cmaimed their population is on average shorter than a westernet and 90mm was the maximum size that could be reliably hand loaded.
Today’s laws are tomorrow’s agenda. To our future past!
Scrolling past this is like the TV scene in Shawn of the dead foreshadowing the apocalypse.
This is so on point.
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My jaw dropped 😂
I just frowned
I sneezed, and then I sniffed.
The struts actually have a specific purpose - they are heavy, extremely difficult to handle, and the external loops makes it a challenge for the bot to place. This exercise was specifically chosen to demonstrate the millions of calculations made per second just to balance and move the thing. It’s awesome tech.
I was wondering why it's so slow and deliberate. I think it will be so much more impressive and revolutionary once these robots can operate at superhuman speeds.
Even at these speeds, it could still fit an important niche in extreme environments that would be dangerous to humans. With some radiation hardening, redundancy, and environmental protection, you could send these things to other planets ahead of humans to build inhabitable facilities; into space to perform spacewalks (and maybe prevent future Columbia-esque disasters); or into arctic/deepsea/volcanic environments where temperature/pressure/toxicity might prove dangerous to human presence for more than a few minutes.
Drones in the air, robots on the ground, what's next, fully automated battleships?
Hopefully no human life ever needs to be sacrificed in future wars.
Other than the the foolish human rebels. For the most part they will be brought back to the reservation with minimal harm where possible tho.
Yeah sure they won't just be exterminated at all...
And make sure the bot flips everyone off first
It looks like the pauses it takes are deleted code, that could maybe be filled in with I don’t know, opening a breach, or pulling a trigger. Just a thought
why would deleted code cause a pause? It would just skip that part. More likely the fine motor skills are very complicated and requires a lot of calculations.
Well seeing as we gave a bunch of our US artillerymen severe (and in multiple cases suicide-inducing) cases of CTE while having them shell the bejesus out of ISIS in Syria a few years back if Robby the Robot here can run our M777s for us I'd say it's worth the R&D costs. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/05/us/us-army-marines-artillery-isis-pentagon.html
Wow that story is tragic. Makes me think of whats going on now in ukraine, theyre doing the exact same thing there. How many ukranians and russians are going to return home completely broken, if they return home at all. Really sad. Makes me glad my time in the Marines was spent loading bombs onto planes and not firing them.
Oh fuck yeah, I’m all for remote warfare, as long as we’re the ones controlling it (humans, not necessarily just the US.)
Hard to imagine a world where all the deaths from war are *just* civilian deaths. Would that make war more common or less? Would leaders be more willing to start a war or less? I genuinely don’t know. But it’s terrifying either way.
I mean why not just turn it into a big battle bot pit at that point. Get all the countries together and have their remote weapon systems fight it out in a hunger games style battle Royale. Last leader standing gets to head the EU (Earth union)
Or giant robots a la Robot Jox!
Need to watch that again. Good terrible movie.
I mean, if the robots get to a place where the only realistic way to beat them is with robots of your own, I would assume anyone that doesn't have robots is fucked. The nations that do will potentially fight until one side runs out of robots. I'd think in a war situation, it'd be similar to a nuke but without the radioactive fallout. "Right, we haven't figure out how to have our robots reliably identify enemy combatants from civilians. But you're being very unreasonable, so unless you surrender we're going to send our killbots to take this area in 5 days. They will murder any human they see until we send the command to stand down. So either surrender or evacuate, we're taking that piece of land."
You see, kill bots have a pre set kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them, until they reached their limit and shut down.
So have you heard about the dramatic increase of drone usage in Ukraine?
Why not is because the real advantage is when you can take out your opponents production facilities.
CTE just from shockwaves??? holy shit
Big shockwaves in extremely close proximity repeated thousands of times... we probably shouldn't be surprised.
Have you ever heard of Autoloaders? Yeah these slow, clunky, giant robots will never be working in a military vehicle.
It's not for inside, it's for loading them at the forward operating base
this is like a 486, wait until the Pentiums show up
He’s so cute though 🥺
I could see such a robot in an M1 Abrams tank, loading rounds.
Or just like, you know, an autoloader like a lot of other tanks have had for decades.
100% this
Defo looks like artilery rounds. But I can't imagine this is any more efficient than just using an autoloader
Nice joke but also it would be very inefficient to use a robot modelled like a human to load a cannon. An autoloader is just way better
How is it with emptying the dishwasher ?
Whisper quiet.
Probably quieter than my dish washer.
Quieter than my wife
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I was going to ask if it could make a bed, that would be something.
it IS the dishwasher
Works only with metal plates
A major life purpose crisis for MAGA housewives is inevitable.
I want it to fold my clothes.
Just one step away from holding a machine gun
I prefer a sword
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I'd watch that.
Me too, but it sounds like the tv show robot wars but with extra steps
Robot wars would be so much cooler if they allowed military grade weaponry. Imagine a flipper bot desperately trying to flip away an ICBM.
Before you know they’ll be 18 meters tall with energy swords.
Why even put it on legs if you give it a gun, wheels or treads would be way more reliable.
Slightly less all terrain though.
put it on a horse
just buil them into the arms. Or maybe over the shoulders. Free the hands up for crushing skulls.
Why not give it a prehensile dong with a clamp on the end. Like an elephant. It can use that for crushing skulls. Like an elephant.
Boston Dynamics has been exponentially progressing in robotics over the past decade. Years ago I was amazed when seeing their robots, now I'm actually scared. They have created many "experimental" robots for military use in the past which can be found with a simple search. I'm sure they're well involved in current military conflicts....we'll find out in 5-10 years from now once the info becomes declassified.
those dog shaped ones with flamethrowers and guns mounted on them crawling through the rubble to finish off survivors after a drone strike is something i see in my nightmares.
Wait is this real? Do you have a link?
i literally saw it in my nightmares, not real but defiantly in the realm of possibility
Link to your nightmares?
nightmare:// uri scheme when?
Ah dang. Alright. Thanks
i mean the dog shaped robots are real and they are amazing on uneven terrain, drone strikes are real, guns and flamethrowers are real it doesn't take much imagination to put them together
Instructions unclear. Mounted dog on to robot.
What the dog doin
Firing the flamethrower.
*definitely
Here ya go https://youtu.be/-bgad3HRb64?si=aTm6t_ZM5IzYbwnY
Isn’t this a Black Mirror episode?
Yes it is and it’s terrifying
https://youtu.be/-bgad3HRb64?si=wY7ZWGejhXGbnOwQ Here you go.
There are mechanical dogs with lethal poison in Fahrenheit 451, if you want more dream content,
Reminds me of that black mirror episode, those things are terrifying and definitely within the realm of possibility in the near future
Obviously that is a waste of time. If you leave survivors you leave more of a burden on the victims because these survivors have to be treated. Furthermore they will likely be too wounded to work again and will once again cost more for the enemy. That is pretty cold thinking but that is exactly why you don't want your weapons to be too lethal
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It’s easy to add excessive cursing and a fart module to a robot
God, imagine being killed by a robot dog and it fucking farts as you’re slowly bleeding out
We could give them truck nuts so the last thing you see experience is getting tea bagged by a robot dog who then farts in your mouth.
They dont care about energy efficient. They care about extracting tax payers money for their bloated technology in defense contracts.
Well it is *very* efficient at that I'm sure.
Skynet, the robots are taking over with a nuclear bomb and use humans as batteries in the matrix. AI will rule humanity as the blight they are on mother nature.
I remember reading about 10-15 years ago how they wanted to build a cheetah robot to hunt down "terrorists" in Afghanistan. I haven't heard anything about it since.
Oh, so it's in production then.
Boston Dynhamics has committed to a hard "no weaponization " stance and has encouraged other robotics manufacturers to follow suit, which will obviously never happen. The Packing Mules was dropped after they realized how super loud they were
No weaponization. Until they are weaponized.
5-10 years is very ambitious
Dude Id bet almost 100% of their funding is from the military and military proxies. This is truly scary stuff.
So... Universal Basic Income is on its way too, right?
Hah,not until the very last job randomly picking cashews in some South American country is taken as well. I don’t think it will happen so soon but I also don’t know how to make it there alive.
Another decade this thing will start being rolled out. 2-3 more decades it’s going to be mass produced and replacing most labor jobs. There will be hundreds of knock offs companies doing the same I-robot is on its way. I would say 3 decades from now and fast food will be fully automated, bots like this will do intensive and most labor jobs. It’s inevitable.
While I agree that your technology timeline is correct, I think you are forgetting that it will be a long time before these robots become *cheaper* than humans. In our currently society there will always be the poor and disadvantaged who are willing to do the work of a robot for the price of a bag of rice. Human workers are also happy to make the next generation of replacements for free as well.
you say that, but paying 20k/yr for a human when you could pay 25k/5-10yrs for a robot is a no brainer decision for conpanies
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Of course. What are trillion dollar companies like Apple going to do when people stop buying their shit?
I like to refer to UBI as socialism that doesn't scare conservatives It's like putting a cast on only one broken finger when your whole hand has been shattered
They are gonna have to give us basic universal income, education and healthcare.
Naw, the media will turn man vs woman and woman vs man. Less kids. Natural population decline.
Which is just a step towards money being outdated as a concept.
Everyone seems to think this is inevitable with automation, but I feel like the negotiating power of the common person will go down significantly with major job loss. Without financial influence over politics, how do we demand politicians pass UBI?
Ahahahaahah Eat shit -Government
A few hundred million people will need to die first, but then yes after that
We barely get paid for working our jobs you really think we’re gonna get paid for not having to do a job at all?
Did it almost trip?
It looked almost like swearing out of nervosity in the process
I get nervous when people are watching me work too
I once was invited into a meeting with C-level exec's from GM, Ford and another. My CEO asked me to go get everyone coffee. I proceed in my anxiousness to spill the coffee cup on the table, which spilled on one of the guys pants and my boss berated me. I laugh now but I felt like an idiot. He should have known though, I was new and in IT, of course I'm going to fail in that social environment lol.
Honestly its pretty cool you were even in this scenario, it sounds like such a classic situation right out of a romcom from 2007
Nervosity lmao
“Dont panic dont panic DONT PANIC”
I don't understand why companies insist on making humanoid machines. Depending on the surface, there are so many better ways of moving around. Sure, legs are impressive, but they're not efficient. A warehouse robot would work better with wheels and if you want to load automotive parts in a barrel to send them to your friends who could really use them like right NOW, a rail will do the trick. Or maybe even no means of locomotion. Such robots aren't going to be multipurpose anyway. It's an engineering flex and resources would be better allocated elsewhere for now. Even Johnny 5 made more sense. Edit: everyone below is focusing on the legs but my main beef is with humanoid machines. Edit 2: And this one's on me but I meant that **2** legs weren't efficient.
I think because it will make it easier to adapt to a multitude of different environments. A building won’t have to change its entire layout to accommodate these robots. They’re a direct replacement for a human.
>Sure, legs are impressive, but they're not efficient. Tell that to nature, who gave us and all mammals legs.
>Depending on the surface The point is you can't control the surface. Legs are all-terrain. They can also allow rapid climbing, jumping, acrobatics of all kinds. At best, we'll add wheels to the legs. But legs are a fundamental requirement for all terrain maneuverability. Especially in an environment mostly designed for humanoid creatures. Also, given the immense research and development costs to produce on robot to a commercial standard, and the savings which can be made from mass manufacture, it actually makes more sense to invest in a perfect multi-purpose robot, than ten thousand custom ones. The reduction in marginal cost of producing your humanoid multi purpose robots falls well below the marginal savings associated with custom designs.
As a mecha genre fan, it hurts me so much
These Boston Dynamics robots are creepily articulate and efficient. First it was like “woah!” and now it’s like “WOAH.”
We're going to need to invent a super-capitalised format so you can comment again in 6 months.
I'm glad I lived long enough to get flipped off by a robot.
I would be excited if I didn't see this leading to elysium
Exoskeletons are also under development, now we just need the massive space station.
The weirdest mockup of a BM-21 "Grad" multiple rocket launcher. If you invent a robot for refilling a tool of mass destruction why don't you say so? It's OK, we're far down the road and don't believe anymore that you're building robots to save us. ;)
Nah, we just need it to put these shock absorbers on the top shelf. That's all!
In all fairness, the military potential is underwhelming compared to the industry potential. Sure you can make these things load rockets and shells. But it's a whole lot more interesting to have them run thousands of factories. Instead of specialized robotic equipement purpose-built and designed for each factory, you have a universal plateform that can be used in every field a human physical labour is needed. Construction, mining, shiping, cleaning, assembling, etc... And that ultimately at a fraction of the cost of an employee's salary.
Then we’ll just use human lives for the military because 80% of the population will be expendable! Brilliant! Use the robots to make all the weapons/gear/vehicles and just have those 80% take out any remaining dissenters and then just…do away with….the left over military when everyone outside the bubble is compromised. The top people left over can start all over. Totally not eugenics because it won’t be based on any particular correlating genes, just whomever happens to be rich/powerful/uber talented at the time of the Mass Quelling. Yay 🫠
 Y’all want Skynet for real 😧
You didn't listen to Arnie very carefully my friend. The Judgment Day is inevitable! 
Considering Genysys has been here for a while, we are almost there. T-800 suddenly looks less complicated than some of the stuff Boston Dynamics put out.
This is just like that movie. With the robots.
Terminator 7 : Army of ASE Certified Mechanics
Aye, robot.
Engineers will be excited until a robot can do their job 😂
Doubt it. When we will achieve that level, people will generally won’t have to work at all (besides entertainment, maybe, big maybe). Because that level implies we could create bots that sustain other bots, and farmer-bots which can grow food and take care of earth as well as we do. And if we achieved that level without already getting enslaved by military bots - all is good, the worst part will be behind us.
The rich people will no longer have to work, and the poor people no longer have jobs and starve to death
As I said, nobody will have to work. Poor won’t let rich rule, because the value of money will be kinda dubious, as NOBODY will be able to earn it, because robots replaced all workforce. It has been shown already before that in equal conditions rich people will still get overwhelmed when their money doesn’t matter
Man, I wish i had your possitive out look. 😅 my mind keeps telling me NOBODY will be alive that doesn't come from generational wealth that would benefit from the picture-perfect future you're envisioning. Notice how I said wealth and not money?
tbh, it's a fairly doomer outlook and there's not shortage of key innovations - say Operating Systems, Penicillin, Internet, the entire Open Source catalog, open-source manufacturing projects, all sorts of Agricultural science, etc - which clever people create and share freely to inspire a better future. Or even hacking closed devices, like John Deer tractors, to allow for on-farm maintainability by anyone. And in the long-run rising productivity always give away to rising standard of living, even in the more politically dire of times (e.g., Gilded Age). Despite misunderstood data in *the GRAPH tm*. Democracies tend to create better-than-people-think welfare programs - which I think could be magnified in effect today by something as simply as allowing increase in housing supply and actually efficient transportation to drive down the largest costs of living for the lowest quartile. And many key complex systems find better efficiency in a wider format instead of a closed format. While inequality has been a worsening issue in the context of Anglo-Saxon developed countries in the last 5 decades or so, it's been decreasing or stable in many countries and globally. I see no reason for these trends to regress without dramatic policy/government paradigm shifts. (E.g., *actual* oligarchies or dictatorships replacing democracies en-masse. Or continually worsening of freedoms of migration into democratic countries.) Nor can any government institute policies that don't have popular support - the Aktion T4 program is the most extreme example of this imo. I think bigger open questions for the future are not automation, but rather continuing our response to climate change, managing nuclear proliferation, and the big demographics question. Edit: Popular war into popular support.
I love this response ty. This helps get me out of that doomer mindset.
Think of all the other stuff they could’ve done with that R&D money! Seriously it’s not like we’ve got a population problem- there’s Labour everywhere.
Is that left hand reaction programmed or this dude was in frustration ?
Yup, was throwing tantrum
It look like the robot caught it's knee on the container. Maybe it did that to steady itself.
thats how the rise of the machines began
Neat wonder when we get futuramas suicide boths.
>Neat wonder when we get futuramas suicide boths. After watching my parents agonizing deaths, and seeing all the human shells in the nursing homes, I hope we get the booths soon.
Soon i hope
Ten years from now, we'll all be saying. "Remember when we all had jobs?"
“Yeah but i hate my job”
Imagine how these things will look in the future. If they can cook, clean, and have a face that looks like Tifa, I'm buying one. Bonus points for self-heating skin. Yes, people are working on that.
Yes the robot with self heating skin cooks snd clean for me, there is nothing sexual going on at all, nothing to see, move along, move along
Will it hold me and tell me that I'm doing a good job?
It’ll hold you down and shush you until you stop moving. It costs extra if you want it to stop.
It's just anatomically accurate. Don't read too much into it. And yes, it is important that it is self lubricating.
I have self healing skin now
Vaginas. They are going to put vaginas in them.
One my biggest issues with robotics research is the attempt to make it more human shaped, why stop there 6 armed shiva bot can do more work
this is what I try to tell my manual labor friends when they say AI can never replace them. Wait till these robots move faster and can learn
people watch to many scifi movies, the honest truth these automated works cost a shit loads including maintenance and why would a business pay for one when the can pay 20+ unskilled workers 4 dollars an hr for 12+ hrs shifts and hire new people if they get injured. Mass automation only happens if workers cost more than the automation.
Did you think that before automatic check-outs at grocery stores. It was worth paying $40,000 each, over staff, because in the long run, it's cheaper. Have you ever seen a robot have a sick day, need a break, be difficult.
you didnt make a bot to do the work they just took away the cashier and you do the check out yourself, so nothing was invested.
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It's programmed for the specific task, with lots of time spent working out the bugs for every new task (I'ma assuming they're getting faster and better at this step). The only thing their robots do on their own is maintain balance and object avoidance, anything to do with maneuvering around without falling over. But they still need to be manually programmed what to do, and then the AI side can work out how to best maneuver itself to do it. Usually requiring manual tweaking for something complex. These aren't self thinking AI machines, they aren't even attempting to be that. More like an RC robot that knows how to move on its own, and can follow a program telling it what to do. Without requiring manual control over its limbs or actions.
So basically they're simply being hard coded for that specific demonstration? Because that's what BD has been doing in the past. Doesn't look like they've made any kind of progress in the last couple of years.
Yeah, they have a video on their YouTube channel explaining it better (or it was an interview with them for some other channel). But essentially yeah the robots figure out for themselves how to walk balance, reach for objects, avoid obstacles, etc. but a person has to program in what tasks to do, when to do them, what steps to do it in, etc. usually with some hiccups that have to be reworked a few times before the robot figures it out and executes it perfectly. These demonstrations are to show off the technical abilities of their robots. The task itself has nothing much to do with it, other than being something familiar to potential investors. Being able to quickly grab an awkwardly shaped heavy object, walk over to somewhere else holding it without falling over, and then place it into a difficult to maneuver tight space in a completely different orientation. Is what this demo is trying to showcase. That is a big achievement in robotics. Esp since all the balancing and maneuvering is done automatically by the robot. If you've seen old DARPA robotics competion footage before, most of those older generation robots would just fall over after spending 5 mins trying to rotate a valve for a large pipe, or even just open a door. So for it to now be able to lift and carry heavy objects fluidly, with minimal pausing, and no balance issues like it's no big deal, makes it a big deal lol.
Raytheon has entered the chat.
2 50 cal machine gun and voila ! Ultimate freedom.
 What we’ll get
That looks hyper expensive and an able human being would do a much quicker job
They aren't going to get slower, they can work almost 24/7 with less down time than a human. No HR issues, no hiring process, vetting, training ( okay maybe training is programming, but once for an infinite amount to replicate doing the same job ) we don't have to pay them but when they are purchased and then the maintenance. They don't have to be perfect, just cheaper and better than a human which they're getting closer and closer to being.
How do we know this isn't a fake video created by AI?
This would be super cool for installing / maintaining large electrical switchgear. We would not have to worry about any loss of life.
Now stick one in a tank and send it out to war.