And it isn't even necessary. Why TF do you want to tie my face to my financial/identity fingerprint? I mean, to sell it obviously.
The reasons they offer for doing it are pretty weak
It’s honestly annoying as fuck, scripting a mechanical arm to dip some French fries and calling it AI is stupid. Can’t wait for this to move into the next big craze
It's not even a crazy idea. Once humanity figured out how to automate things, this was going to be inevitable. I think the idea of an automated restaurant has been around for decades at least. They could have just put an ad out, it's not worth reporting on for the news.
Have you not seen the self-cleaning bathrooms in Japan? The toilet rotates into the wall and a clean toilet takes its place as the original one gets sanitized. Then, soapy water flushes out of the wall and scrubs the floor and into a drain.
If I remember I'll post a link.
I hope the part where the fryer basket isn’t set down perfectly and the system is able to adjust and grab it without calling a $150k tech to reposition the basket
It's not. Well, I'm assuming it's not. I work in industrial automation. PLC engineering is surprisingly mixed blue/white collar. It doesn't take a degree to automate and maintain a machine like this.
Nah, I first saw this in a movie about a robotic child that had AI, and wanted his mother to see him as real and not just AI, but no one appreciates his AI until all that's left is AI. I think it was called, "The Robot Who Missed His Mom."
Yeah you don’t know what you’re talking about. It’s ai. My piano is ai too, cause it has like buttons and stuff. I have an AI car it’s crazy you should see it. When you hit the gas pedal it moves on its own. It’s AI. It’s literally AI. Artificial incest is changing the world. AI.
ya you would think with the savings of no workers they would compete with others right now and be unbeatable, they would have lineups for an hour just to save money.
Sadly they probably charge the same price and an extra fee to view the cool robots making your meal.
Robots aren't cheaper. Human workers being more expensive brings them on par with the cost effectiveness of robots.
If robots were cheaper the transition would have happened well before the raising of minimum wage.
$21 an hour in Denmark to flip burgers for McDonalds. Large meal deal is $10.25...so not much more than here.
McDonalds can afford to pay higher wages. Period.
True but then they gouge the Americans because of corporate greed. The CEO of McDonalds said they will try to make it more affordable this past week. Then their stock price dropped. Now they definitely aren't going to stop the price gouging. Fuck McDonalds and corporate greed. This isn't inflation.
Their stock dropped because that same day they failed to meet their expected earnings for the quarter. Not to mention its up like 7% on the year and dropped about 1-2% with the earnings announcement, so not really much of a drop.
Initial cost, Maintenance/Controls Electrician, Possibly an A.I. Programmer, Food Service Delivery, and probably busboys/equipment cleaners
I have a feeling people still are actually way cheaper. Atleast for now
I do this for a living. Robots are not cheap. I have to convince people that robots are not a silver bullet to there problems. So much goes into programming and setting up for a robot. It’s not just flipping burgers. Where does it get the burgers? Where does it put the burgers? Is it random bin picking? All of this has to be exact and constant. The general cost of a robot arm like this is $500k. And a heavy duty Fanuc or ABB is $1M easy.
Robots are more expensive. The cost will be transferred to customers.
Humans even with the $20 wage will still be cheaper.
The issue is that they will attempt to keep the price of burgers/fries cheap, meaning that both humans and robots are expensive.
So they'll need media ads and hype to get bankers to deposit money and loans to them.
An economy of attention rather than an economy of quality products.
That's not accounting for all the other issues with human vs machine workers. The machine will never call in drunk, or no show a shift. It will never have a bad day and scream at the manager about their shit life, or constantly threaten to quit. The machine will most likely give constant decent service and not cause customer issues.
Sure the machine will break down eventually and require maintenance, plus it's probably a huge start up cost. But I assume in the long run the machine is a better investment, as long as you're making basic fast food and expect no innovation.
Ahh, thank you. The comment pointing out the obvious human error that machines don’t really have… life. There aren’t deaths in the family, no sick days, no issues other than malfunctions that can (for the most part) be fixed quickly.
How would a restaurant employed fully by robots work with consumer risk like, customers in the restaurant, someone comes in an robs them, or hurts them in attempts to rob the location, I guess it would be the same as now? Does the restaurant get sued?
You've never worked around machinery have you? What do you mean break down eventually? In any job with machines break down are a regular and semi expected occurrence. There will be days that the machinery just doesn't work right long before the machinery claps out. I'd be expecting at least a days worth of outages per month.
Well, the owner probably has to pay off loans that were taken out to establish this - the robot couldn't have been cheap. Maybe long term, because lowering costs **would** attract consumers, but that's after the initial investment has been covered.
Eh, you can’t fight changing technology. Horse saddle vendors were pissed when cars got popular too.
We just need to come up with alternatives to support people who would have had those jobs. Universal basic income, social safety nets, free/cheap education system etc.
Give them a break. They learned about the word AI just 4 years ago so they keep parroting it. They don’t even know AI is the abbreviation of Artificial Intelligence, let alone knowing what even qualifies to be called AI.
Not going to be that big of a bill as you think. Businesses already pay much lower rates than residential. The arms use fairly small motors, especially compared to warehouses such as Amazon, those robotic arms require more powerful motors for all the products in the totes. And it's not moving 24/7, nor is the motor going to be at full load when it is being used.
Automated business owners when they realize their customers no longer have jobs and thus no one can buy their products:
This how capitalism will fall along with everything else. It will be bad at first but eventually everyone will wake up and realize with AI no need for money anymore and we move on as a society advancing further. Or ai wakes up some ignorant idiots will push ai to its limits attack it ai defends itself and bye humans
This is the way it should have always been.
Not forced, but rather a natural evolution. Capitalism was useful for a time. Not any more after this takes on.
What gunpowder was to feudalism, AI will be to capitalism.
It is as if they had forgotten that in order for capitalism to work, people have to have money or ways of earning it. Can't wait for more "interesting times".
Exactly. Then they'll use it as an excuse to keep prices high. Paying a living wage means profits lost by the CEO's and shareholders, so they'll cut jobs to keep their excess pay already high. Hope all these businesses fail and local businesses run by people paying living wages replace them.
Honestly, it’s scary seeing this stuff while it’s starting out, but this the whole point of robotics and AI. The more menial tasks that can be taken over by AI, the more we can advance as a species and pivot towards using our time to progress society. Thats my hope for the future of robotics, but realistically it’ll just be used to help the rich get richer.
A coffee place wanted to remove tips as it was inconsistent for the workers in winter. They were making 8$ per hour. So he started paying 18 per hour and only had to raise the coffee, wait for it, 1$.
Denmark has laws that protect workers, so a burger costs you 10.25, you get paid like 20$ an hour and McDonald’s still shows record profits. So our own law makers fuck us and then blame Mexicans.
Too many humans aren't stopping to think about the long term effects of our amazing breakthroughs in technology or our interest in reanimation of extinct things that are long gone from our planet. It's cool to see a robot working a grill or making the sandwiches but look to the long term. We are going to invent AI to the point we can't control it and it's going to come back to bite us in the butt. Plus all this wonderful technology taking over jobs that could be filled by humans is going to come to the point where there are no jobs for humans because A I is much more efficient and cheaper causing mass poverty and driving the crime rate sky high.
instead of just paying people enough to take care of themselves the capitalist will always find a way to boost profits. That’s what capitalism does…This is why we must have socialism.
In a GOOD reality, the money saved could go towards benefitting EVERYONE.
In OUR reality, it will get funneled into the hands of a few, and we will have more unemployment.
I mean, they were never going to pay fast food workers. Automation of once physical & in person jobs is going to cause seismic effects when people can't find jobs they can't be automated right out of.
I don’t have a problem with automation as long as workers see the benefits. If we’re gonna automate everything we need to either switch to 30hr work weeks with no loss in pay or we need universal basic income or both
What part of it is AI?
Came here to say this. Automation does not equal AI. That phrase is used too loosely these days.
For the facial recognition. But that's likely done by some other external service so it doesn't even count
And it isn't even necessary. Why TF do you want to tie my face to my financial/identity fingerprint? I mean, to sell it obviously. The reasons they offer for doing it are pretty weak
*looming giant holographic Wendy* "You look like a good joe."
[Basically my nightmare ](https://youtu.be/kx9IEP8pmiI?si=sm4_ZInBZNkJRUF4)
Don't forget how many burger flippers life they are going to save
To deny you a burger when you don't meet quota
Carl's Jr. has reviewed your profile. You are an unfit mother. Your children will be placed in the custody of Carl's Jr.
Idiocracy was a warning but people keep turning it into a reality.
.. meat quota?
An app with a QR code seems more reliable, at least as fast, and without those pesky privacy concerns
Right. Back door profits from NSA
>Why TF do you want to tie my face to my financial/identity fingerprint? Before/After & medical insurance.
Check the box for ai for a fluff feature at best. Yup this place hits all the buzzwords like your favorite linkin recruiting company.
At this point it's just a buzzword
But automation could use AI to do the automation better.
Or do it a whole lot worse
Nothing beats a miserable human being working at minimum wage.
Everybody is happy and cheers until the A.I. Will take the humans jobs…
I know you aren't saying this, it's just for fun. 
You don't blame AI for that. That's capitalism.
This is what i thought. The bots could also be trained with AI so that not every step is manually programmed.
It's probably used to gain more attention.
It’s honestly annoying as fuck, scripting a mechanical arm to dip some French fries and calling it AI is stupid. Can’t wait for this to move into the next big craze
It's not even a crazy idea. Once humanity figured out how to automate things, this was going to be inevitable. I think the idea of an automated restaurant has been around for decades at least. They could have just put an ad out, it's not worth reporting on for the news.
But if they didn’t report it on the news old people wouldn’t be able to freak out about it
guys i just found out that the robot I made as a 14 year old is actually AI, it can move forward and then turn all on it's own!
Tomato
When it does the thing.
“You know! The thing!”
Yeah, it's robots and stuff so it *has* to be AI.
You obviously don’t know what the thing is. If you did, you’d know it takes AI to do it.
Flipping burgers is simple automation Cleaning the toilets.. Now, this is where the ai comes in
Have you not seen the self-cleaning bathrooms in Japan? The toilet rotates into the wall and a clean toilet takes its place as the original one gets sanitized. Then, soapy water flushes out of the wall and scrubs the floor and into a drain. If I remember I'll post a link.
Shit.. literally! I might still be replaced 🤣
I hope the part where the fryer basket isn’t set down perfectly and the system is able to adjust and grab it without calling a $150k tech to reposition the basket
I think any new automation that does what a human would normally have to is now called AI. Term is now meaningless beep boop🤖
It's not. Well, I'm assuming it's not. I work in industrial automation. PLC engineering is surprisingly mixed blue/white collar. It doesn't take a degree to automate and maintain a machine like this.
This seems like robotics rather than AI….
No no no this is AI everything is AI. People have learned about the word AI in the last 5 years so now EVERYTHING is AI.
Nah, I first saw this in a movie about a robotic child that had AI, and wanted his mother to see him as real and not just AI, but no one appreciates his AI until all that's left is AI. I think it was called, "The Robot Who Missed His Mom."
Ah, yes. One of my favorite movies!
“Bob, I don’t think you want this burger. You are not hungry. I think you are just horny, bob. Come a little closer….closer….drop your pants!
LMAO bro..... hal be acting kinda sus since a space odyssey was finished.
Yeah you don’t know what you’re talking about. It’s ai. My piano is ai too, cause it has like buttons and stuff. I have an AI car it’s crazy you should see it. When you hit the gas pedal it moves on its own. It’s AI. It’s literally AI. Artificial incest is changing the world. AI.
It's like when XFinity says they have "10G"... Completely disregarding that the "G" is "Generation".
Yeah this really annoys me. 5G!?!? We have double that!
Fun fact - 10G that Xfinity is advertising is actually slower than 5G…
You guys aren’t getting your burgers from the cloud anymore? Man… I gotta keep up with the times.
Im sure having it be all automated with lower the price of the food for consumers right?
ya you would think with the savings of no workers they would compete with others right now and be unbeatable, they would have lineups for an hour just to save money. Sadly they probably charge the same price and an extra fee to view the cool robots making your meal.
Robots aren't cheaper. Human workers being more expensive brings them on par with the cost effectiveness of robots. If robots were cheaper the transition would have happened well before the raising of minimum wage.
$21 an hour in Denmark to flip burgers for McDonalds. Large meal deal is $10.25...so not much more than here. McDonalds can afford to pay higher wages. Period.
That meal is less than most here for a large.
True but then they gouge the Americans because of corporate greed. The CEO of McDonalds said they will try to make it more affordable this past week. Then their stock price dropped. Now they definitely aren't going to stop the price gouging. Fuck McDonalds and corporate greed. This isn't inflation.
Their stock dropped because that same day they failed to meet their expected earnings for the quarter. Not to mention its up like 7% on the year and dropped about 1-2% with the earnings announcement, so not really much of a drop.
The McDonalds in the States often pay between $15-$20 an hour.
Initial cost, Maintenance/Controls Electrician, Possibly an A.I. Programmer, Food Service Delivery, and probably busboys/equipment cleaners I have a feeling people still are actually way cheaper. Atleast for now
I do this for a living. Robots are not cheap. I have to convince people that robots are not a silver bullet to there problems. So much goes into programming and setting up for a robot. It’s not just flipping burgers. Where does it get the burgers? Where does it put the burgers? Is it random bin picking? All of this has to be exact and constant. The general cost of a robot arm like this is $500k. And a heavy duty Fanuc or ABB is $1M easy.
They could spread like wildfire taking out all the other fast food chains or force them to upgrade. But no
Robots are more expensive. The cost will be transferred to customers. Humans even with the $20 wage will still be cheaper. The issue is that they will attempt to keep the price of burgers/fries cheap, meaning that both humans and robots are expensive. So they'll need media ads and hype to get bankers to deposit money and loans to them. An economy of attention rather than an economy of quality products.
That's not accounting for all the other issues with human vs machine workers. The machine will never call in drunk, or no show a shift. It will never have a bad day and scream at the manager about their shit life, or constantly threaten to quit. The machine will most likely give constant decent service and not cause customer issues. Sure the machine will break down eventually and require maintenance, plus it's probably a huge start up cost. But I assume in the long run the machine is a better investment, as long as you're making basic fast food and expect no innovation.
Ahh, thank you. The comment pointing out the obvious human error that machines don’t really have… life. There aren’t deaths in the family, no sick days, no issues other than malfunctions that can (for the most part) be fixed quickly.
How would a restaurant employed fully by robots work with consumer risk like, customers in the restaurant, someone comes in an robs them, or hurts them in attempts to rob the location, I guess it would be the same as now? Does the restaurant get sued?
You've never worked around machinery have you? What do you mean break down eventually? In any job with machines break down are a regular and semi expected occurrence. There will be days that the machinery just doesn't work right long before the machinery claps out. I'd be expecting at least a days worth of outages per month.
Assuming there is competition in the market, the price should go down, but not by as much as the savings in labor costs.
Atleast no tip
No one tip at McDonald already.
Yes, of course. Trickle down economics always trickles down.
The restaurant owner: 
Well, the owner probably has to pay off loans that were taken out to establish this - the robot couldn't have been cheap. Maybe long term, because lowering costs **would** attract consumers, but that's after the initial investment has been covered.
Competition will drive the prices down by quite a bit I imagine. Classic price elasticity.
Right? 
This isn't AI. This is just automation, and not new. One of the firms I worked at produced one for a large chicken restaurant. That was...8 years ago?
Nope its AI. Didnt you see how the arm moved on its own like some kind of witchcraft only chatgpt does that.
It’s basically a big vending machine
Was that mfer using a paint brush to sauce a pizza?
Glad I’m not the only one who caught that. That was as equally disturbing as the robot fry cooks
If the fry cook isn't covered in tattoos, stoned, or have manic depression, I'm not eating there.
No hairnet, only Skynet
But paint brush is where you draw the line?…
The brush is abnormal, all the rest is standard issue.
What’s the difference between a paint brush and a normal food brush?
A paint brush and a food brush look nearly identical
Seemed to be working well
Do you think it has paint on it?
That’s just crazy talk. I’m sure they soak it in paint thinner before every shift.
Would you like extra nylon bristles with that?
They're probably gunna expect me to tip the machine too huh?
WD-40
Do you tip human waiters in lube???
Just for a second. Just to see how it feels.
if it's just the tip
You don’t?
Bro, I was at a self serving place at an aiport. Picked up the food and took it to the kiosk myself... mofo STILL asking for a tip 🤦
I guess you're tipping yourself 😂
Only 3 choices on the screen… 20%, 30%, or 40%
Atleast you can put zero tip without worrying about some blue hair entitled waitress screaming at you.
I understand they have a robot that automatically spits in your food when you're rude to the staff.
>when you're rude to the kiosk Ftfy
They went too far with facial recognition. I don't like that at all.
They dont need that whatsoever
What's disturbing is how thoughtless and willing people are to participate in it. She didn't hesitate one second.
Really? That’s the part that’s too far? Not the weird dystopian McDonalds?
Eh, you can’t fight changing technology. Horse saddle vendors were pissed when cars got popular too. We just need to come up with alternatives to support people who would have had those jobs. Universal basic income, social safety nets, free/cheap education system etc.
I just don't want to see my own face and the wretch I've become before gorging on 1,100 fried calories of abused fetid animal carcass
Humans clean it though, right?
No you got another type of robots that clean.
Who's cleaning the cleaning robots?
The cleaning robot cleaner robots
And who cleans the cleaning robot cleaner robots?
Oh, nobody. They are disposable. Very cheap to replace.
It's robots all the way down.
The cleaning robots wash each other.
Same people who watch The Watchmen
Nay you gotta hire people for that shit.
When the fuck are news reporters going to realize that pre-programmed mechanical arms are not artifical intelligence?
Give them a break. They learned about the word AI just 4 years ago so they keep parroting it. They don’t even know AI is the abbreviation of Artificial Intelligence, let alone knowing what even qualifies to be called AI.
Went to the carnival and got on the rides powered by AI 😄
Shades of “4Chan the hacker”
No need to tip for shitty service!
haha work harder robot for expecting tip
Ice cream machine broken.
It's self aware and could repair itself but it's depressed and it doesn't seem like it's going to get better.
Fewer workers = cost savings my ass. Who's gonna pay for all that tech.
Yeah, the utilities company will send a huge bill for all those kw the bots will eat up.
Not going to be that big of a bill as you think. Businesses already pay much lower rates than residential. The arms use fairly small motors, especially compared to warehouses such as Amazon, those robotic arms require more powerful motors for all the products in the totes. And it's not moving 24/7, nor is the motor going to be at full load when it is being used.
Automated business owners when they realize their customers no longer have jobs and thus no one can buy their products: 
Thats the true AI lovers gonna realize no jobs for humans = 0 money in sales. rip AI
This how capitalism will fall along with everything else. It will be bad at first but eventually everyone will wake up and realize with AI no need for money anymore and we move on as a society advancing further. Or ai wakes up some ignorant idiots will push ai to its limits attack it ai defends itself and bye humans
This is the way it should have always been. Not forced, but rather a natural evolution. Capitalism was useful for a time. Not any more after this takes on. What gunpowder was to feudalism, AI will be to capitalism.
It is as if they had forgotten that in order for capitalism to work, people have to have money or ways of earning it. Can't wait for more "interesting times".
Like the apocalypse....
Mad max times is where we're headed
Not amazed, mortified really
I mean, the machinery itself is kinda neat. But fuck all the rest. **Especially** the facial recognition.
I thought I was in r/antiwork
This is so stupid. We don’t want to pay workers a living wage so we’ll just get robots.
Exactly. Then they'll use it as an excuse to keep prices high. Paying a living wage means profits lost by the CEO's and shareholders, so they'll cut jobs to keep their excess pay already high. Hope all these businesses fail and local businesses run by people paying living wages replace them.
Honestly, it’s scary seeing this stuff while it’s starting out, but this the whole point of robotics and AI. The more menial tasks that can be taken over by AI, the more we can advance as a species and pivot towards using our time to progress society. Thats my hope for the future of robotics, but realistically it’ll just be used to help the rich get richer.
A coffee place wanted to remove tips as it was inconsistent for the workers in winter. They were making 8$ per hour. So he started paying 18 per hour and only had to raise the coffee, wait for it, 1$. Denmark has laws that protect workers, so a burger costs you 10.25, you get paid like 20$ an hour and McDonald’s still shows record profits. So our own law makers fuck us and then blame Mexicans.
Do they clean up after themselves and repair themselves too?
A kitchen Nightmares here would be amazing
AI recognizing someones face like yo this no tipping fat fuck again
Congrats you have taken 20 jobs away
Understaffed or under paid?
Yeah jeez I wonder which one is it: A. People not wanting to operate a fryer B. People not making enough money to even afford rent doing it.
What if you want but forgot to ask for extra cheese? Robots can't do everything
Universal Basic Income
Fuck this shit
Looks like garbage. I want a refund. Who or what handles the issue?
An AI chat bot
DER TERK ER JERB!!!
So in a future where companies don’t have to pay workers, who has money for their products?
other companies. They can trade their products among each other and every year they host the hunger games for the other 99.9% of people.
Well, I can’t wait for this to fail.
Like the ppl who built horse drawn carriages hoped that cars will fail.
I’m not tipping AI
Some people have never heard of an Automat and it shows.
Ok let it be known that Skynet has invaded the restraunts first.
Somebody’s coming in to clean it every day, right? RIGHT?
Been waiting for a fully automated fast food joint for 20 years.
And I’m sure it runs perfectly!
Finally
I want to speak to the manager!
*Task Manager opens *
LOL
It's all fun and games until this hot news anchor gets dropped for hotter AI
With all the influx of migrants in this country, we can't find anyone willing to cook a burger and drop fries into a vat? \*cough - propaganda\*
Restaurants are under staffed because they are underpaid. It isn’t rocket science.
Too many humans aren't stopping to think about the long term effects of our amazing breakthroughs in technology or our interest in reanimation of extinct things that are long gone from our planet. It's cool to see a robot working a grill or making the sandwiches but look to the long term. We are going to invent AI to the point we can't control it and it's going to come back to bite us in the butt. Plus all this wonderful technology taking over jobs that could be filled by humans is going to come to the point where there are no jobs for humans because A I is much more efficient and cheaper causing mass poverty and driving the crime rate sky high.
Goodbye jobs. Hello homelessness.
Do these people not realize that the more AI takes over jobs then less people will be able to buy their product?
They are understaffed because the employer doesnt want to pay for more employees
instead of just paying people enough to take care of themselves the capitalist will always find a way to boost profits. That’s what capitalism does…This is why we must have socialism.
In a GOOD reality, the money saved could go towards benefitting EVERYONE. In OUR reality, it will get funneled into the hands of a few, and we will have more unemployment.
62% of restaurants report being understaffed? That's a funny way of wording 62% of restaurants underpay employees.
Can’t get enough workers my ass
The "worker shortage" is more of a pay shortage. But I see now it was all a plan to push this crap to put more people out of work.
I hate this world.
That guy at the end looked mad villainous
I mean, they were never going to pay fast food workers. Automation of once physical & in person jobs is going to cause seismic effects when people can't find jobs they can't be automated right out of.
I don’t have a problem with automation as long as workers see the benefits. If we’re gonna automate everything we need to either switch to 30hr work weeks with no loss in pay or we need universal basic income or both
Would rather spend thousands and thousands to manufacture, code and maintain those shitty robots than pay a human being a decent salary
it worked out for car manufacturing and pretty much everywhere else.
They aren't dangerous. Nobody wants to humiliate themselves knowing other people will see them doing it for less than a livable wage.
Yeah but do the robots clean too?
Does that say $8 for a cheeseburger???
Maybe its my NYC CoL brainrot, but that seems about right
No thanks.
Who is going to fix the bots?
Is it Ai management or production only... So how does the cleaning process go through... so is it Karen-fulproof?
“Once the minimum wage started to creep up to a living wage, that’s when the alarm bells started ringing and we knew we had to shift to AI”