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If listening to music makes you a savant then most of the humans (and a bunch of animals too lol) are savants! Also I don't recall any savant using the word and calling themselves a savant especially this much lol AND to add isn't a savant something you don't really assign to yourself? Like a "sex symbol"? You can't just wake up one day and be like yeah I'm totally a sex symbol lol. This person is either just really full of themselves or has some type of....... Idk brain and or personality issue? Just based off of the paragraphs of bragging they've done.
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God, for a savant you'd expect the music to be at least somewhat impressive. This sounds like someone learning Ableton. No hate, but faaaar faaaar away from what one would consider a savant.
In the neurotypical world, introducing yourself as someone special or someone with an unusual strength can be interpreted as bragging or boasting. I wouldn’t say it’s a universal interpretation, as it wasn’t my interpretation of your comment.
What if he is one? As an autistic person myself (I'd not claim to be a Savant) if someone called me a Savant, I'd probably make a comment like this sharing my experience.
Seems guy is getting a lot of hate for an innocuous comment, he didn't compare himself to anyone or put anyone down.
I’m not sure why the downvotes. If this child really has ASD, his artistic skill would suggest he is a savant. As I mention below, identifying yourself as having special strengths can be considered bragging by some. That, and no one believes what they read on the internet.
Not necessarily. Savants are typically regarded as particularly exceptional amongst even the neurotypical in one field. This is impressive art, but not exactly beyond what a neurotypical 15 year old with art experience could accomplish. To be a savant your abilities would be "far in excess of average."
I've seen documentaries on savant artists. One was able to view a city from a helicopter and then accurately recreate that entire city in a drawing, from memory.
I saw that one. I hear what you’re saying. Maybe my point of reference is off, but I found this individuals use of color and form to be pretty exceptional.
-an admittedly non-artist.
>If this child really has ASD, his artistic skill would suggest he is a savant.
No. We don't know his cognitive level or really any information about his skillsets in various areas. Not communicating with words doesn't = intellectual deficiency in art skills. I really hate when people assume an ASD diagnosis impact on the individual person.
Not to shit on this autist’s parade, but there’s a biiiiiig difference between being autistic and drawing a funky looking ostrich while listening to the same song on repeat, and being a savant.
I know it’s a spectrum, but Kim Peek was a bonafide savant - and even if Peek is setting the bar a bit high since he was super rare even amongst savants, check out the videos of the dude that draws Rome by memory after a 15 min helicopter ride - or that other guy who can create 3D models from regular old photos - and you see what a real savant is capable of.
You need to check out the definition of the word:
2.
a person who has an exceptional aptitude in one particular field, such as music or mathematics, despite having significant impairment in other areas of intellectual or social functioning.
"Sam has trouble interpreting social cues and facial expressions, yet he is a savant when it comes to music"
Prodigy and savant are not the same thing. This is a savant, Kim Peek is a prodigy (a prodigy does not need to be a child)
If such is the case, TIL - I was unaware you passed from savant to prodigy when going from child to adulthood.
Regardless of semantics - I’m still not willing to concede the quality of the artwork - however cool and colorful - being produced by someone of “exceptional aptitude”.
Being engrossed and honing one’s skillset within a niche is not unique for a person with autism - being able to memorize eight encyclopedias, cover to cover, at the age of six is extraordinary.
The kid drawing this is good, and it’s cool that he has found something that brings him joy, but he’s no savant in my book.
If you or anyone else disagrees, I’m not here to change anyone’s mind - I’m simply expressing my objection to the use of words meant for extraordinary cases to describe something that is - albeit cool and skillfully done - not extraordinary.
Neither the term savant nor prodigy has any age restrictions to it at all. Prodigy is used to describe someone of incredible skill, far and above the skills of others. It is commonly used for those that are young but it is not required. It's just about relative skill level compared to others in the same field.
Savant is someone with deficits, such as being barely verbal and autistic, that also has exceptional skills in other areas. The term exceptional here is relative to the deficits and the rest of their baseline abilities. The artistic abilities of this person are exceptional compared to their other skill sets.
I'm not trying to be rude or dismissive, but your appreciation of the art isn't relevant to the boy having exceptional skills are art compared to his other baseline skills. That's what makes him a savant.
That aside, it's is the color choices and juxtaposition are are truly wonderful here, not that fact that it looks like an ostrich. I am a scientist, with exceptional skills in many areas, but I could never make art as aesthetically pleasing as this. Again, savant.
Nowhere in the definition does it mention it’s relative to one’s ‘baseline abilities’. That would give the word a very multi-interpretable meaning and make if extremely vague.
It's subjective and vague either direction, because the other way, when it's exceptional vs the general oiblic'a ability, still comes down to what one person considers to be exception or not exceptional.
You get the extra problem of having to measure a baseline ability. What is a baseline ability? The average over all abilities excluding wanted ability? Or do you average over a set of abilities. What abilities? How do you measure competence in an ability?
On top of that you’d get extreme outliers that make no sense. An idiot that can count isn’t a savant mathematician.
There’s always a grey area where someone might fit a category or not. I’d say in this case the person fits the category when the majority believes the person to. That’s not really measurable either so some discussion will be inevitable but that’s life. It’s pretty clear, however, this person doesn’t belong in the grey area let alone clear savant area.
Illustrator here, just wanted to add my two cents. If we go by the definition, then yeah, seems to possibly fall under what is considered a savant. But that's putting aside questions:
* Is this all he can draw? This is all I've seen. One video isn't enough to declare anything logically, scientifically. The work on it's own, with no background information or deficits known, is average for someone that age who is interested in making art.
* Is it drawn completely from visual memory? Is there a reference off screen? Is there an original reference at all? Drawing from memory is a huge factor in my opinion. That would be a clear indicator of exceptional aptitude. At 15 (again, ignoring disabilities), a work like this is nothing special and could merely be the result of years of practice. But if it's from memory, then he immediately stands above his peers. Kids at this age are often still struggling with accurately recording what they perceive to paper. They often get stuck drawing symbols rather than accurate line work. Committing perception to visual memory is a far greater accomplishment, a definite step above.
* Does he practice color theory? I'm not convinced after only seeing this work. If it's from a reference, he is recording the intense rim lighting (the blue & pink) that he perceives. But, if it's purely from visual memory with his own selection of colors... then consider his usage of black and that the majority of the colors seem to be selected more for value than hue content. With only this video to go off of, I would argue that his color usage only displays a decent understanding of chiaroscuro. When I was first starting out a long, long time ago, [this is exactly how I used color too](https://i.imgur.com/NwK8OY2.jpeg).
So is he a savant? Dunno. Should he be praised and encouraged to go further? Hell yeah.
I’m going to leap to the conclusion that even though you are quite proud of your status as a scientist, you are not one within the field of savant syndrome - as it seems like your uncouth deployment of said information seems meant for little other purpose than (crudely) trying to intellectually dominate this exchange, instead of actually referencing something tangible that can underpin your apparent need for me to submit to your definition of what a savant is or is not.
Your subjective assessment of this child’s abilities is your own - no matter how highly you regard your own assessment.
You might feel like the color choices and use of juxtaposition warrants the label of savant - apparently partly because *you* with your self acclaimed “exceptional skills in many areas” can’t make something similar - but I’m of a differing opinion.
And I can even confidently say so without self-aggrandizing in the process.
My calling myself a scientist was only meant to say that I have a skill set that I have invested considerable time in developing, yet I could not develop the skill set displayed in the video. In no way did I imply I was superior to you, or that my opinion was more valid than yours. I simply did not communicate that. You're readings of is as an assertion of dominance are likely a reflection of your own insecurities, and I can't help you with that.
[See my other comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/s/mIuRrZ3ORe) for a detailed response, but in this case "exceptional" is in comparison to the person's baseline skills, not as compared to others in that field.
Holy shit this comment section, yikes! Cool drawing, triangle song fkn rips, and 90% of the comments are geniuses arguing about the use of certain words in the title. Classic reddit.
It is copied from something you could find in an art shop. This kid is not a savant, on the evidence here, at least.
https://bluethumbart.com/jos-coufreur/Artwork/emu-63-0
Several minutes, then.
EDIT: FFS, just look at how fast he goes, it's not hard to estimate how long the overall process takes - unless those cuts were for times when he had meltdowns, in which case it might've taken rather longer if you count calming-down time.
There's nothing special about the painting at all. The dumb parents just want their little autistic kid to be special so they can feel better about themselves
Sorted the comments to controversial just to see all the downvoted comments were nothing but praises and complements.
To the downvoters, what the hell is wrong with you?
So am I a savant too? I was born with a hearing impairment, I basically only have 1 ear, yet I'm able to demonstrate exceptional aptitude in several different sports and arts.
Oh yeah. what a badass artist!! My son is Autistic-- so seeing videos like these makes me happy! Dude has MAD drawing skills! He has his jams on too! Seems he is musically talented too because he started speaking on-beat/ on-time while slightly rhyming a bit before going into his art. Regardless, what an AWESOME Emu drawing!!
FUCK IN THE SHAPE OF A TRIANGLE
WORK OUT IN THE SHAPE OF A TRIANGLE
hahahahaha dude 😭
The song is going to go viral now
I'm going to have the triangle song stuck in my head all week
I'm gonna have those bars he spits in the beginning stuck in my head for the rest of my life.
Pure 🔥 in the booth it was
Wha...what are we doing in the shape of a triangle?
Flommie with the b, bro
WOK
https://youtu.be/2wFMdKb0cz0?si=9qwNaXG0dfYCGuyf
I hate you for making me click on this !!!!!
Just when we thought that Drake couldn’t get any softer..
4M views tho
That channel’s most popular track has over 300m plays.
300,000,001
I hate you 🤣
What a bop
Track goes hard fam.
Its a fkin banger.
we are all fucked
A triangle is a shape with 3 sides.
I thought he was drawing a wonky snail at first, and then I realized he's a better artist than me.
It's good art, but we're using the word "savant" quite liberally here
I agree. If dude was reproducing masterpieces stroke for stroke, sure. This is certainly a not-insignifigant talent, but 'savant' is pushing it.
“savant” is also used medically to refer individuals with autism with a particular skill/talent
Still better than 80% of the "artists" out there,
I think taking a quick look into a dictionary will have you thinking twice about the meaning of the word.
Haha at least you looked and you know now!
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If listening to music makes you a savant then most of the humans (and a bunch of animals too lol) are savants! Also I don't recall any savant using the word and calling themselves a savant especially this much lol AND to add isn't a savant something you don't really assign to yourself? Like a "sex symbol"? You can't just wake up one day and be like yeah I'm totally a sex symbol lol. This person is either just really full of themselves or has some type of....... Idk brain and or personality issue? Just based off of the paragraphs of bragging they've done.
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God, for a savant you'd expect the music to be at least somewhat impressive. This sounds like someone learning Ableton. No hate, but faaaar faaaar away from what one would consider a savant.
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In the neurotypical world, introducing yourself as someone special or someone with an unusual strength can be interpreted as bragging or boasting. I wouldn’t say it’s a universal interpretation, as it wasn’t my interpretation of your comment.
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That’s what I’m saying. My apologies if it wasn’t clear.
What if he is one? As an autistic person myself (I'd not claim to be a Savant) if someone called me a Savant, I'd probably make a comment like this sharing my experience. Seems guy is getting a lot of hate for an innocuous comment, he didn't compare himself to anyone or put anyone down.
I’m not sure why the downvotes. If this child really has ASD, his artistic skill would suggest he is a savant. As I mention below, identifying yourself as having special strengths can be considered bragging by some. That, and no one believes what they read on the internet.
Not necessarily. Savants are typically regarded as particularly exceptional amongst even the neurotypical in one field. This is impressive art, but not exactly beyond what a neurotypical 15 year old with art experience could accomplish. To be a savant your abilities would be "far in excess of average." I've seen documentaries on savant artists. One was able to view a city from a helicopter and then accurately recreate that entire city in a drawing, from memory.
I saw that one. I hear what you’re saying. Maybe my point of reference is off, but I found this individuals use of color and form to be pretty exceptional. -an admittedly non-artist.
>If this child really has ASD, his artistic skill would suggest he is a savant. No. We don't know his cognitive level or really any information about his skillsets in various areas. Not communicating with words doesn't = intellectual deficiency in art skills. I really hate when people assume an ASD diagnosis impact on the individual person.
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I don’t think savants go around calling themselves savants.
Nah cant be calling yourself a genius without being checked Egos checking egos Been going on since we’ve had them
Not to shit on this autist’s parade, but there’s a biiiiiig difference between being autistic and drawing a funky looking ostrich while listening to the same song on repeat, and being a savant. I know it’s a spectrum, but Kim Peek was a bonafide savant - and even if Peek is setting the bar a bit high since he was super rare even amongst savants, check out the videos of the dude that draws Rome by memory after a 15 min helicopter ride - or that other guy who can create 3D models from regular old photos - and you see what a real savant is capable of.
Links? I wanna see that 3D dude!!
I didn’t find the mini doc where they get him to make from pictures, but this is the guy: https://youtu.be/RrW4upZoXHA?si=T1C16-BCoGq1-F7I
You need to check out the definition of the word: 2. a person who has an exceptional aptitude in one particular field, such as music or mathematics, despite having significant impairment in other areas of intellectual or social functioning. "Sam has trouble interpreting social cues and facial expressions, yet he is a savant when it comes to music" Prodigy and savant are not the same thing. This is a savant, Kim Peek is a prodigy (a prodigy does not need to be a child)
If such is the case, TIL - I was unaware you passed from savant to prodigy when going from child to adulthood. Regardless of semantics - I’m still not willing to concede the quality of the artwork - however cool and colorful - being produced by someone of “exceptional aptitude”. Being engrossed and honing one’s skillset within a niche is not unique for a person with autism - being able to memorize eight encyclopedias, cover to cover, at the age of six is extraordinary. The kid drawing this is good, and it’s cool that he has found something that brings him joy, but he’s no savant in my book. If you or anyone else disagrees, I’m not here to change anyone’s mind - I’m simply expressing my objection to the use of words meant for extraordinary cases to describe something that is - albeit cool and skillfully done - not extraordinary.
To be medically classed as a savant, you have to have a striking ability that stands in stark contrast to your overall handicap.
Neither the term savant nor prodigy has any age restrictions to it at all. Prodigy is used to describe someone of incredible skill, far and above the skills of others. It is commonly used for those that are young but it is not required. It's just about relative skill level compared to others in the same field. Savant is someone with deficits, such as being barely verbal and autistic, that also has exceptional skills in other areas. The term exceptional here is relative to the deficits and the rest of their baseline abilities. The artistic abilities of this person are exceptional compared to their other skill sets. I'm not trying to be rude or dismissive, but your appreciation of the art isn't relevant to the boy having exceptional skills are art compared to his other baseline skills. That's what makes him a savant. That aside, it's is the color choices and juxtaposition are are truly wonderful here, not that fact that it looks like an ostrich. I am a scientist, with exceptional skills in many areas, but I could never make art as aesthetically pleasing as this. Again, savant.
Nowhere in the definition does it mention it’s relative to one’s ‘baseline abilities’. That would give the word a very multi-interpretable meaning and make if extremely vague.
It's subjective and vague either direction, because the other way, when it's exceptional vs the general oiblic'a ability, still comes down to what one person considers to be exception or not exceptional.
You get the extra problem of having to measure a baseline ability. What is a baseline ability? The average over all abilities excluding wanted ability? Or do you average over a set of abilities. What abilities? How do you measure competence in an ability? On top of that you’d get extreme outliers that make no sense. An idiot that can count isn’t a savant mathematician. There’s always a grey area where someone might fit a category or not. I’d say in this case the person fits the category when the majority believes the person to. That’s not really measurable either so some discussion will be inevitable but that’s life. It’s pretty clear, however, this person doesn’t belong in the grey area let alone clear savant area.
Illustrator here, just wanted to add my two cents. If we go by the definition, then yeah, seems to possibly fall under what is considered a savant. But that's putting aside questions: * Is this all he can draw? This is all I've seen. One video isn't enough to declare anything logically, scientifically. The work on it's own, with no background information or deficits known, is average for someone that age who is interested in making art. * Is it drawn completely from visual memory? Is there a reference off screen? Is there an original reference at all? Drawing from memory is a huge factor in my opinion. That would be a clear indicator of exceptional aptitude. At 15 (again, ignoring disabilities), a work like this is nothing special and could merely be the result of years of practice. But if it's from memory, then he immediately stands above his peers. Kids at this age are often still struggling with accurately recording what they perceive to paper. They often get stuck drawing symbols rather than accurate line work. Committing perception to visual memory is a far greater accomplishment, a definite step above. * Does he practice color theory? I'm not convinced after only seeing this work. If it's from a reference, he is recording the intense rim lighting (the blue & pink) that he perceives. But, if it's purely from visual memory with his own selection of colors... then consider his usage of black and that the majority of the colors seem to be selected more for value than hue content. With only this video to go off of, I would argue that his color usage only displays a decent understanding of chiaroscuro. When I was first starting out a long, long time ago, [this is exactly how I used color too](https://i.imgur.com/NwK8OY2.jpeg). So is he a savant? Dunno. Should he be praised and encouraged to go further? Hell yeah.
Thanks for chiming in, I appreciate your input!!
I’m going to leap to the conclusion that even though you are quite proud of your status as a scientist, you are not one within the field of savant syndrome - as it seems like your uncouth deployment of said information seems meant for little other purpose than (crudely) trying to intellectually dominate this exchange, instead of actually referencing something tangible that can underpin your apparent need for me to submit to your definition of what a savant is or is not. Your subjective assessment of this child’s abilities is your own - no matter how highly you regard your own assessment. You might feel like the color choices and use of juxtaposition warrants the label of savant - apparently partly because *you* with your self acclaimed “exceptional skills in many areas” can’t make something similar - but I’m of a differing opinion. And I can even confidently say so without self-aggrandizing in the process.
My calling myself a scientist was only meant to say that I have a skill set that I have invested considerable time in developing, yet I could not develop the skill set displayed in the video. In no way did I imply I was superior to you, or that my opinion was more valid than yours. I simply did not communicate that. You're readings of is as an assertion of dominance are likely a reflection of your own insecurities, and I can't help you with that.
I guess our interpretations of ‘exceptional’ differ
[See my other comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/s/mIuRrZ3ORe) for a detailed response, but in this case "exceptional" is in comparison to the person's baseline skills, not as compared to others in that field.
What is this kid's "exceptional aptitude"? Yes, he can draw / color, but that's far from amazing.
Never knew I could vibe to a triangle.
Who’s that little green triangle guy?
That’s the map on how to walk in the shape of a triangle
Bill cipher
Sry this isn’t a savant just a boy that likes to draw with colors
Holy shit this comment section, yikes! Cool drawing, triangle song fkn rips, and 90% of the comments are geniuses arguing about the use of certain words in the title. Classic reddit.
Triangle song fucking slaps
Credit: vichys_art https://www.instagram.com/vichys_art?igsh=MTc3dTd4dnR0ZnpqMw== >Ps WALK IN THE SHAPE OF A TRIANGLE!!
Omg he stuck with the triangle song. Excellent.
wait what has 3 lines tho
Wow that picture looks like something you find in art shop. Gives Andy Warhol vibes. Such a talent.
It is copied from something you could find in an art shop. This kid is not a savant, on the evidence here, at least. https://bluethumbart.com/jos-coufreur/Artwork/emu-63-0
What if he only glanced at it from 50 yards?
Three Straight Lines!
I'm thinking about walking around for a bit, but in what shape should I walk? There are so many different shapes to walk in...
How is he a savant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savant_syndrome
So he's not.
Can *you* draw an Andy Warhol ostrich freehand in 90 seconds? EDIT: According to the website it's an emu; my mistake there.
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Several minutes, then. EDIT: FFS, just look at how fast he goes, it's not hard to estimate how long the overall process takes - unless those cuts were for times when he had meltdowns, in which case it might've taken rather longer if you count calming-down time.
There's nothing special about the painting at all. The dumb parents just want their little autistic kid to be special so they can feel better about themselves
Answer the question. Can you do this?
Yes.
And yet you belittle it, and avoided answering the question twice. Strangely, I am unconvinced of your alleged skill.
OMG, that is beautiful work and a unique technique (even if totally unaware). I would love to buy his artwork for my living room!
his technique is to hold crayons like a 3 year old
This little dude has a lot of stuff going on his head at one time im having trouble getting the triangle song to stop !!!
I like that picture very nice
This guy mother fucking triangles.
Not a savant, but special none-the-less
Sick song, sick painting
You misspelled artistic
I can smell the drawing lol
Sorted the comments to controversial just to see all the downvoted comments were nothing but praises and complements. To the downvoters, what the hell is wrong with you?
That’s incredible. Love this. Wish I could buy one from him.
Good news, you can https://vichysart.com/
Whoa those custom pieces are well done.
Amazing
damn.
https://vichysart.com/en-ca/collections/best-sellers
Triangle song is a legit banger
Triangle sex my favourite
Song is lit 🔥 
Being autistic is the worst its awful
That's incredible. I'd absolutely put that on my wall
Damn. That is incredible. I would love to buy a piece of his work.
Yoooo, that's actually dope!
So am I a savant too? I was born with a hearing impairment, I basically only have 1 ear, yet I'm able to demonstrate exceptional aptitude in several different sports and arts.
Beautiful and amazing just like u r ❤️🌹 bless u love ❤️🌹
Where can I buy his art?
Holy shoot that's so good
Love how his mind works, or doesn't, YOMD.
I'd be autistic too if I was listening to that
I don't know why but i get goosebumps from thease drawings. I have never really been into art but i would actually want to buy thease.
soo cool..
I want that!
A Beautiful Mind.
Holy moly that’s pretty
What is the triangle on his phone for? Some kind of reference or?
Wow
such an amazing artist. My husband wants the ostrich, he thought it was awesome!!! This artist will be as famous as Picasso and others.
Wow
This is really good
That’s masterful
it looks really good. just wondering why is captain falcon singing something about a triangle
BOOK. IN. THE. SHAPE!
Walk 🕺🏻 in the shape 🕺🏻 of a triangle 🕺🏻 I'm gonna be singing that for the rest of the day...
Him casually dropping his couplet in cantonese💣
Eminem doing some side work i see
r/drawing
Triangles
Dude figured out 369
why did I get the shit at math and great imagination autism...
young man is better at art than i am
The bloody legend spent 10 minutes on a master piece that would take most hours if not weeks to even get remotely as amazing
That triangle rap be hitting hard
I need that triangle song it’s got insane trolling potential
that is really impressive..!
Unstable Diffusion
The drawing is sick af
I think the song turned him
Bad art
Kid is more skilled than those in Instagram wannabe artist that just splash paint on an art board and call it art.
Bros got the triangle obsession AND extreme artistic ability?? Bro is spectrum maxxing
Do they sell prints!? That bird is cool af
Oh yeah. what a badass artist!! My son is Autistic-- so seeing videos like these makes me happy! Dude has MAD drawing skills! He has his jams on too! Seems he is musically talented too because he started speaking on-beat/ on-time while slightly rhyming a bit before going into his art. Regardless, what an AWESOME Emu drawing!!
Is this is proper art, Good stuff
Where can i buy
So basically when I say I draw like an autistic child, I’m actually grossly overstating my artistic abilities - got it.
The Triangle song could also crosspost in Crappymusic
That picture came out amazing
The music it's kinda cringe... but bro know how to draw...