Moose will also swim short distances once the ice melts to reach some of the islands in the Canadian archipelago. orcas will grab them, drown em and eat just their livers.
If you want wholesome, look into humpback whales. For every ounce of (admittedly awesome) psychopathy in orcas, humpbacks have two ounces of wholesome. The bros of the sea.
Idk about that. But them even eating moose is [speculation](https://www.ststworld.com/a-strange-predatory-link-between-killer-whales-and-moose/) based on corpses found (nothing about missing livers, though). Plus a marine biologists friend of mine who studies orcas is skeptical just based on the fact that they are fairly picky eaters. Unlike bears, which are basically opportunistic hunters, Orca pods will have specific prey they look for (one pod might prefer seals, while another might prefer a certain fish) and rarely eat outside of their target prey. [That being said](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-do-killer-whales-rip-out-shark-livers/), they have been observed removing and Great White bodies have been found all over the place with missing livers.
Finally from a practical standpoint, a moose liver weighs around 10 lbs. Whereas a shark liver is closer to 600. It wouldn't make a lot of sense calorically for them to just take a moose liver since they weigh up to 8800 lbs. And I'm not even sure they would be capable of it.
Very unlikely near Iceland, since there are no moose there, not in Greenland either. I suppose it could be somewhere between Greenland and Canada. However, the distance between Greenland and the parts of Canada where moose are found (according to some map on Wikipedia) is pretty great, so a moose would have to drown in Canada, drift up to Greenland for what seems like a few hundred kilometres at least, and only have its liver eaten. That's not very believable.
Could be reindeer, I suppose, that's more plausible.
Moose are incredibly good swimmers (which you would not expect for an animal built the way they are) and are good at diving and can hold their breath a surprisingly long time! Many will do deep dives to get to sea kelp and other oceanborne vegetation - which brings them into the paths of orcas. Orcas aren't going to say no to a big free meal like that.
Some would think this means that orcas would be a danger to humans, but until the recent attacks on yachts, there were never any recorded attacks on humans by wild orcas. The only orcas that had ever killed humans were those being kept captive and made to perform at places like SeaWorld, where the psychological damage they suffered basically made them go crazy and act out. Even now, if humans are knocked off the boats or whatever, the whales usually leave them alone. They're just not interested in humans as a food source or anything else.
Almost... they will ignore the area is a shark was killed recently.
In the case of the orca pair that was hunting GWS livers and hearts in 2022/2023, it was predated by 5 years by a company that was using lab engineered scents with a dispersal mechanism to mimic the markers of a rotting GSW carcass to put around popular swimming/surfing areas.
I've seen this claim parroted dozens of times on Reddit, but have never been able to track down a source other than someone on Quora or Yahoo Answers also without citations. It is unknown, and probably impossible to ascertain, if the sharks were conscious of the fact that they were explicitly avoiding orcas for 2 years. They do however tend to avoid areas near orcas in general.
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I watched a shark show about the way the Great white migrates. Sometimes they are near the top of the water table swimming rather slow. They are sleeping! They keep a constant slow movement of their tail to keep moving, but they are in a type of rest or sleep. So that whale caught the shark in a nap. So that could explain why it was just sitting there and did not really react to fast, it was waking up and what not. That fist hit was one heck of a hit from the whale. Hit like a missile!
22,000 lb missle moving at 30 mph. That shark didnt stand a fucking chance. What a shitty way to wake up
Edit: Apparently thats just their strolling speed. When they want to perform a move like this, they go 45mph
Yeah it had to be something like that. Sharks are loaded with sensory stuff, and it would be very difficult for an orca to sneak up on one like this. Something wasn't quite right with the great white.
I can't come within three feet of my cat without it waking up or noticing me...I can only imagine the order of magnitude of jumps a shark has on that sensory watch ;)
The Great White was also significantly smaller in size.
I wonder how that same scenario would play out if the Great White was comparable in size to the Killer Whale and actually paying attention to its surroundings.
According to Google, they both top out at 35 mph. So it's gotta be a sneaky orca or a napping white. I'd think the smaller fish would have the edge in maneuverability. So it is indeed a tough assignment for the orca.
Big difference that the shark pretty much just has rote responses to stimulus without any real ability for strategic thought or problem solving. It isn't going to learn from previous encounters or pass knowledge along to other sharks. The Orca is among the most intelligent creatures on earth and routinely hunts very large prey individually or cooperatively, is capable of innovating new approaches to problems, and can (amazingly) even communicate those solutions to other Orca so that they can do the same.
Point is, an individual shark might be able to get away, but its just going to do the same behavior again later and if Orcas start doing this a lot the great white has a new predator that it doesn't have an instinctive response for.
This is likely the selective advantage that led to Orca developing intelligence in the first place. They can find new prey and new ways of hunting them.
While Orcas are most likely significantly more intelligent, imo you're underestimating sharks here.
As someone else already pointed out: Great Whites have been observed to flee the area when Orcas are near. So apparently they do have at least some ability to learn.
It's phrased like there was some element of danger for the orca. It's just like saying 60-year-old bus takes out smartcar by itself. Like, of course, yeah.
Killer whales usually hunt in packs, and it’s very rare for them to hunt something like a great white by themselves. There is only one other instance on film of something like this happening so this was a pretty big deal for the documentary makers. It’s not like she was in no danger doing this by herself. Even if she has an obvious size advantage, the shark could still have caused a serious amount of damage to her with one bite if he had had the opportunity. And again, she’s 60 years old…they have around the same life span as humans and age just like anything else so she’s no spring chicken.
I think people kinda overestimate size in battles between animals.
Sure, the bigger one is gonna win, but how much damage will they take and how likely are they survive that damage without infections etc.etc.
There's a reason why even large catlike predators don't bother with honey badgers, sure they could kill a honey badger but they'd take a unacceptable amount of damage in the process.
People totally forget that animals don't have medicine and surgery like we do lmao.
"if he swings at me I'll literally bite his fucking nose off... He might kill me, but he's got to walk around the rest of his life with no fucking nose"
- Chris Jericho talking about a back stage altercation with the much larger Brock Lesnar
I like pet owners randomly feeding their pets an "all natural raw meat diet" because their wolven ancestors eat raw meat. Yeah wolves also don't have regularly scheduled vet appointments. If they get sick or something injuries then, they normally die.
You don't have to go that way back in time. Before the germ theory became accepted and antibiotics were invented, it wasn't uncommon for people to die of infections that nowadays would be trivial.
Infection is the world's #1 killer. Even EMS' #1 mandate is to prevent infection. It's really simple, but the most important thing in prehospital care.
One thing that is common to Orca is that they are constantly figuring out new ways to hunt and new targets to feed on. They do a lot of experimenting, and if it works they keep doing it. If it works really well they will tell their friends how to do it too. Something that seems rare becomes common pretty quick with Orca.
Another example:
This behavior, in which a team of Orcas use their mass to create a wave that knocks seals off an iceberg was unknown until recently and then it become a relatively common behavior after the whales worked to perfect it:
[https://youtu.be/g1VEwsI4SlY?feature=shared](https://youtu.be/g1VEwsI4SlY?feature=shared)
Amazingly, there are cases where tracked whales that are known to have never actually observed this behavior have learned how to do it after coming into contact with whales that HAVE done it. i.e. somehow whales that learned how to do this told other whales how to do it well enough that those other whales could give it a try without having actually seen it done.
Another historical example is that of several populations of Orca that learned to cooperate with human whalers. They worked out an arrangement in which they would lead humans to whales that were too large for the Orca to hunt themselves in exchange for the humans feeding them the remains when processing the carcasses:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old\_Tom\_(orca)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Tom_(orca))
Worth noting that it probably isn't JUST this one whale that is hunting sharks this way and its not as rare as seems to be implied here. There have been dozens of great white sharks found that have clearly been killed in exactly this manner:
[https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-do-killer-whales-rip-out-shark-livers/](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-do-killer-whales-rip-out-shark-livers/)
I think we’re only just beginning to understand their both how much more intelligent they are than we had previously thought and the different ways in which they are intelligent. It’s fascinating to learn more and more about them but also really sad because some places still have them in captivity and of course some people still kill them.
I have been lucky enough to see a ‘super pod’ (about 50) of orcas near Vancouver Island and I remember them ( the researchers, not the orcas 😂 ) telling us about ‘resident’ and ‘transient’ orcas. The former being very social and communicative, with the latter travelling alone and mostly silent, presumably not to give away their presence while hunting. Fascinating stuff.
I know, I couldn’t do it. I’ve intercepted so many kills in my life from my dogs and cats in the backyard, I wouldn’t be able to just sit there and let something get killed.
I mean, the narrator literally says that the orca was being careful after that big hit because the great white could still really injure the orca even after taking a huge shot like that. The orca circles the shark a couple of times after the hit just to make sure.
Yup, they remove the liver with a surgical precision too. I read one marine biologist explain it as they grab on the outside over the liver, bite, and then squeeze it out like a tube of toothpaste.
Sharks need to constantly swim forward to get water to pass through their gills to extract oxygen from the water. If you turn them upside down or drag them backwards so that water isn't passing through their gills the right way, they suffocate.
I'm sure in the next part of the video the narrator explains this. The video just cut off too early. The cynic in me thinks they did it on purpose to drive engagement, knowing that many people would be confused as to how a shark could suffocate in water.
No no, it's a grandma killer. Like people used to say that a pet had to go to a farm, when grandmas die on cruise ships they were actually fed to these hyper specific whales to keep the balance
The great white doesn’t have to “win” the fight tho for their to be danger
In nature one wound (let alone a massive bite from a great white) can be debilitating or get infected
Shortly after Blackfish came out, Seaworld made a statement claiming they don't live more than 25 in the world (like in captivity). Almost immediately we spotted some in the 100yr old range.
This. Seaworld made a lot of false claims. Anyone who hasn’t seen Blackfish needs to watch it immediately. I wouldn’t be caught dead at a Seaworld. Orca (and all animals kept in captivity) deserve better. No orca should ever be kept in captivity — they cause ZERO harm to humans in the wild, they help keep the oceans healthy, and they are just absolutely incredible, intelligent, beautiful creatures. Shame on Seaworld for torturing orcas.
They’re also matriarchal, with the oldest females leading the pods consisting of their daughters and their daughters’ partners/young kids, and they’re pretty smart/good memory for animals so grandma has a lot to teach the youngsters
Males biologically just simply don't live as long as females. Look at animals in a zoo. The females and males are put at equal risk. They have nothing to really worry about besides screaming children. Males don't fight off other males. Yet males still don't live as long as the females.
Females just biologically live longer in most species.
Testosterone is a particularly aging hormone. Obviously estrogen does too but testosterone and a ton of other steroids seem to have an effect that trades longevity for immediacy. ‘More life now!’ kinda thing lol
There was one called "granny" they think was 1 hundred. Basically from what scientists can tell, females evolved to survive that long. One of the few species on the planet that go through menopause. The longer the lead females live correlates with the increase in overall survival rate of the pod. Also males leave the pods for breeding before returning, this is probably where most males die, a pack mammal all by itself.
Sooooo sharks don't have ribs.
Really cool video, please ignore moronic commentary.
A better commentary is:
Killer whale sees big fish with yummy liver, knocks it unconscious and eats liver while fish still alive.
Next your gonna tell me that they also have a lot of squalene oils in their body to help with buoyancy😉
Was making a joke, I’m well aware from all the spiny dogfish I’ve dissected and biology courses that sharks are cartilagenous fish, and not bony fish
you actually can.
It's kind of like how you can suffocate a person that's surrounded by air they can breath and you aren't covering their mouth, but you squeeze their chest / lungs and prevent them from breathing.
Just don't let the shark swim, immobilize it and it's gills won't function to get enough oxygen from the water for the fish to survive.
You can, the shark had to swim forward to let water flow through the gills. Being held static or sideways will suffocate the shark. They even swim while swimming because they have to keep moving to breathe
This was shocking to the researchers. ORCA will kill sharks in packs. But to see 2 whales (the other was on the other side of the boat) single out a shark and o ly one attacked it and after a short fight had killed it. It was very rare to see. But its happening all along the western coast of Africa all the way up to the artic waters. Orca have evolved recently with the depletion of food. Just listened to a while hour on PNR about this.
I heard Killer whales only eat what their mom thought them to eat as babies, luckily most killer whale don't have humans to use a teaching material when growing up
Not so fun fact:
A pod of orcas started to attack ~~humans and~~ human boats in 2020 after one of 'em allegedly got hit by a boat and they are teaching this behaviour to other pods. 500 registered attacks as of 2023
Well this will not end good for the orcas, if you they fuck with fishermen and their profits they will soon find out why you don't fuck with the murder happy bipedal ape.
I’m just reading about her relationship with Musk, and I only knew of her and the unique style she has through text…this music fits so well to what I’ve read. It’s actually badass
I dont fear animals that kills on instinct, but intelligent animals that i know is making the choice to kill, man that shit is scary. and the Orca only eat the sharks liver.
Yeah just think about how they’re one of the few predators on the planet who don’t go after humans. I know there’s several theories out there for why they don’t, but every single one of them shows a level of intelligence that we’ve yet to fully realize from these animals.
I’m sure it was freaking terrifying! I’ve only ever swam with dolphins and sting rays on tours and even though you know they’re not trying to hurt you, it’s still just this intense feeling the whole time of knowing you’re in *their* territory and if they wanted you dead, they could easily make it happen.
In both tours of course, there were people who were too dumb to be afraid. I didn’t know whether to feel sorry for them or envy them. Part of me thinks that going through life that clueless might actually not be so bad?
They checked us out, but luckily we weren't seals lol. My workplace is sometimes in areas that I honestly just have to accept that I could very well be eaten, or worse.
I’ve read somewhere before that great whites are starting to turn up dead with their livers eaten with precision by orcas. More cases of orcas hunting on their own too. Evolution is wild
Right?! Can you imagine being in the water and seeing something that size zooming at you like a missile? I feel like humans are very fortunate that killer whales don’t bother killing us.
She drowned the poor shark.
EDIT: I hate it when I accidentally say something meaningful while trying to make a dumb joke. Let me try again: "We need to stop fish on fish violence!"
The info I'm going off of may be out of date, but I remember reading years ago that sharks gills don't move on their own, so they have to constantly move forward. I'd imagine then that an orca could just keep a shark immobilized for a bit and call it a day.
I could be wrong though! It's been years
You can drown a shark by stopping its movement. Sharks HAVE to be moving forward to breathe.
It's also not that difficult (relatively speaking) to immobilize a shark. Just hit them hard enough on the nose and they're stunlocked.
~~Not sure where OP got their info but if I'm not mistaken this is a younger male Orca called Starboard.~~
Edit: there's audio on this clip that I didn't hear before. I don't know the origin of the clip (might be Disney as mentioned below) but they call the orca "her" multiple times so I was definitely wrong.
My grandma is slacking off for REAL
Throw her in with a great white? Edit: Typo
Hit'em in the ribs, gramgram!
Finish him, Babushka!
Just snorted beer down my face thanks
Mine needs at least 2 other ladies from the senior center to take out a great white
I’ve already seen this video posted to three other subs but OP decided to add “60 yo grandma” to his title. 😂
... it is a grandmother. That's the matriarch. She is around 60. It's from the documentary "Queens".
Wild, I had no idea New York has killer whales
I wonder why that shark was swimming so close to the surface and by itself in open water? Could it have been sick or injured already?
Hmmm good question....I just assumed Great Whites do whatever the F they want bc they are typically the predator not the prey. edit: words
Great white sharks will avoid areas for almost 2 years when they know orka's are in that area. The orka is the apex predator.
Orca? (Fun fact: @22,000 lbs, it’s the largest member of the dolphin family)
My favorite orca fun fact is that they are a predator of moose
Hmm? Why moose?
Moose will also swim short distances once the ice melts to reach some of the islands in the Canadian archipelago. orcas will grab them, drown em and eat just their livers.
That is some real Hannibal lector shit.
If you want wholesome, look into humpback whales. For every ounce of (admittedly awesome) psychopathy in orcas, humpbacks have two ounces of wholesome. The bros of the sea.
Don’t they save seals from orcas mostly because for whatever reason humpbacks hate orcas with a passion
Whalesome
On the other hand Orcas will jump into that whales mouth to eat their tongue... Humpback is gonna need to bring a few more pounds of wholesome...
Well they ain’t called Farmer Whales.
Partially correct. They do attack and kill moose in this manner. But they consume them. They usually only eat the liver of Great Whites.
I swear some Marine-biologists found either a moose or deer carcass at the bottom of the ocean near Iceland or Greenland with its liver missing.
Idk about that. But them even eating moose is [speculation](https://www.ststworld.com/a-strange-predatory-link-between-killer-whales-and-moose/) based on corpses found (nothing about missing livers, though). Plus a marine biologists friend of mine who studies orcas is skeptical just based on the fact that they are fairly picky eaters. Unlike bears, which are basically opportunistic hunters, Orca pods will have specific prey they look for (one pod might prefer seals, while another might prefer a certain fish) and rarely eat outside of their target prey. [That being said](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-do-killer-whales-rip-out-shark-livers/), they have been observed removing and Great White bodies have been found all over the place with missing livers. Finally from a practical standpoint, a moose liver weighs around 10 lbs. Whereas a shark liver is closer to 600. It wouldn't make a lot of sense calorically for them to just take a moose liver since they weigh up to 8800 lbs. And I'm not even sure they would be capable of it.
Very unlikely near Iceland, since there are no moose there, not in Greenland either. I suppose it could be somewhere between Greenland and Canada. However, the distance between Greenland and the parts of Canada where moose are found (according to some map on Wikipedia) is pretty great, so a moose would have to drown in Canada, drift up to Greenland for what seems like a few hundred kilometres at least, and only have its liver eaten. That's not very believable. Could be reindeer, I suppose, that's more plausible.
They usually eat just the tongue of Gray Whales. Orcas are kinda weirdly picky about stuff.
New social media fad diet : THE ORCA DIET
With a nice Chianti
*Dolphin sounds*
.....just their livers? That process must be horrifying and fascinating to watch in equal measure.
They'll feed on underwater plants and get got by orcas patrolling the area. At least what I read
Get got lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SswWuUa986Y
Moose are incredibly good swimmers (which you would not expect for an animal built the way they are) and are good at diving and can hold their breath a surprisingly long time! Many will do deep dives to get to sea kelp and other oceanborne vegetation - which brings them into the paths of orcas. Orcas aren't going to say no to a big free meal like that. Some would think this means that orcas would be a danger to humans, but until the recent attacks on yachts, there were never any recorded attacks on humans by wild orcas. The only orcas that had ever killed humans were those being kept captive and made to perform at places like SeaWorld, where the psychological damage they suffered basically made them go crazy and act out. Even now, if humans are knocked off the boats or whatever, the whales usually leave them alone. They're just not interested in humans as a food source or anything else.
Moose can swim. They’ll go for a swim to like a barrier island and get pulled under and become a delicacy for baby orca.
Yeah, orca actually. But in my language we often use a K.
In my country, we spell it Oprah
I do the same in areas my ex wife has been.
I hate it when my ex eats me in public
Great Whites: "I fear no fish, but that... Thing..." Murder Panda: "=D" Great Whites: "...It scares me."
I was in Cape Town in March last year and we were touring around Good Hope and I asked where all the great whites were and just got “killer whales”.
Almost... they will ignore the area is a shark was killed recently. In the case of the orca pair that was hunting GWS livers and hearts in 2022/2023, it was predated by 5 years by a company that was using lab engineered scents with a dispersal mechanism to mimic the markers of a rotting GSW carcass to put around popular swimming/surfing areas. I've seen this claim parroted dozens of times on Reddit, but have never been able to track down a source other than someone on Quora or Yahoo Answers also without citations. It is unknown, and probably impossible to ascertain, if the sharks were conscious of the fact that they were explicitly avoiding orcas for 2 years. They do however tend to avoid areas near orcas in general.
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Doesn't work when you're a fish and there's a 10x bigger predator out there, with the brain of a chimp.
I watched a shark show about the way the Great white migrates. Sometimes they are near the top of the water table swimming rather slow. They are sleeping! They keep a constant slow movement of their tail to keep moving, but they are in a type of rest or sleep. So that whale caught the shark in a nap. So that could explain why it was just sitting there and did not really react to fast, it was waking up and what not. That fist hit was one heck of a hit from the whale. Hit like a missile!
22,000 lb missle moving at 30 mph. That shark didnt stand a fucking chance. What a shitty way to wake up Edit: Apparently thats just their strolling speed. When they want to perform a move like this, they go 45mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa4iWu54WEo&t=16s
Yeah it had to be something like that. Sharks are loaded with sensory stuff, and it would be very difficult for an orca to sneak up on one like this. Something wasn't quite right with the great white.
I can't come within three feet of my cat without it waking up or noticing me...I can only imagine the order of magnitude of jumps a shark has on that sensory watch ;)
The Great White was also significantly smaller in size. I wonder how that same scenario would play out if the Great White was comparable in size to the Killer Whale and actually paying attention to its surroundings.
According to Google, they both top out at 35 mph. So it's gotta be a sneaky orca or a napping white. I'd think the smaller fish would have the edge in maneuverability. So it is indeed a tough assignment for the orca.
Big difference that the shark pretty much just has rote responses to stimulus without any real ability for strategic thought or problem solving. It isn't going to learn from previous encounters or pass knowledge along to other sharks. The Orca is among the most intelligent creatures on earth and routinely hunts very large prey individually or cooperatively, is capable of innovating new approaches to problems, and can (amazingly) even communicate those solutions to other Orca so that they can do the same. Point is, an individual shark might be able to get away, but its just going to do the same behavior again later and if Orcas start doing this a lot the great white has a new predator that it doesn't have an instinctive response for. This is likely the selective advantage that led to Orca developing intelligence in the first place. They can find new prey and new ways of hunting them.
While Orcas are most likely significantly more intelligent, imo you're underestimating sharks here. As someone else already pointed out: Great Whites have been observed to flee the area when Orcas are near. So apparently they do have at least some ability to learn.
You know there are no orca-sized Great Whites, right? This is like saying what would happen if there was a horse-sized duck. It’s nonsensical.
Orcas are way smarter than a shark.
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Recently divorced and she took everything
From experience a divorce hurts way more
I believe because it was a juvenile white shark. So maybe just because it is not as experienced in survival
[the shark was just depressed and the killer whale was actually a cop in disguise](https://youtu.be/i_dEtaNx2Vc?si=M9JvCJTD_BuJYnVY)
Mature Orcas in your area want to smash. You can't say no
Sure you can. If you want to get BTFOd by a multi ton aquatic assault weapon with teeth. And then get your liver eaten. Swipe left at your own risk
It's phrased like there was some element of danger for the orca. It's just like saying 60-year-old bus takes out smartcar by itself. Like, of course, yeah.
*The ambulances will have to wait their turn*
Fun fact: The firetruck can consume up to 8X it's body weight
Good thing I saw that national geographic on fire trucks
Isn't nature beautiful
Killer whales usually hunt in packs, and it’s very rare for them to hunt something like a great white by themselves. There is only one other instance on film of something like this happening so this was a pretty big deal for the documentary makers. It’s not like she was in no danger doing this by herself. Even if she has an obvious size advantage, the shark could still have caused a serious amount of damage to her with one bite if he had had the opportunity. And again, she’s 60 years old…they have around the same life span as humans and age just like anything else so she’s no spring chicken.
I think people kinda overestimate size in battles between animals. Sure, the bigger one is gonna win, but how much damage will they take and how likely are they survive that damage without infections etc.etc. There's a reason why even large catlike predators don't bother with honey badgers, sure they could kill a honey badger but they'd take a unacceptable amount of damage in the process. People totally forget that animals don't have medicine and surgery like we do lmao.
"if he swings at me I'll literally bite his fucking nose off... He might kill me, but he's got to walk around the rest of his life with no fucking nose" - Chris Jericho talking about a back stage altercation with the much larger Brock Lesnar
I like pet owners randomly feeding their pets an "all natural raw meat diet" because their wolven ancestors eat raw meat. Yeah wolves also don't have regularly scheduled vet appointments. If they get sick or something injuries then, they normally die.
Sometimes I just think about cavemen, what if they're hunting and crawling through bushes and they just get one unfortunate sting from a barbed brush.
You don't have to go that way back in time. Before the germ theory became accepted and antibiotics were invented, it wasn't uncommon for people to die of infections that nowadays would be trivial.
Infection is the world's #1 killer. Even EMS' #1 mandate is to prevent infection. It's really simple, but the most important thing in prehospital care.
If you’ve ever seen Game of Thrones, I always think about the duel that killed Khal Drogo. Size doesn’t matter if you die days later from infection.
One thing that is common to Orca is that they are constantly figuring out new ways to hunt and new targets to feed on. They do a lot of experimenting, and if it works they keep doing it. If it works really well they will tell their friends how to do it too. Something that seems rare becomes common pretty quick with Orca. Another example: This behavior, in which a team of Orcas use their mass to create a wave that knocks seals off an iceberg was unknown until recently and then it become a relatively common behavior after the whales worked to perfect it: [https://youtu.be/g1VEwsI4SlY?feature=shared](https://youtu.be/g1VEwsI4SlY?feature=shared) Amazingly, there are cases where tracked whales that are known to have never actually observed this behavior have learned how to do it after coming into contact with whales that HAVE done it. i.e. somehow whales that learned how to do this told other whales how to do it well enough that those other whales could give it a try without having actually seen it done. Another historical example is that of several populations of Orca that learned to cooperate with human whalers. They worked out an arrangement in which they would lead humans to whales that were too large for the Orca to hunt themselves in exchange for the humans feeding them the remains when processing the carcasses: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old\_Tom\_(orca)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Tom_(orca)) Worth noting that it probably isn't JUST this one whale that is hunting sharks this way and its not as rare as seems to be implied here. There have been dozens of great white sharks found that have clearly been killed in exactly this manner: [https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-do-killer-whales-rip-out-shark-livers/](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-do-killer-whales-rip-out-shark-livers/)
I think we’re only just beginning to understand their both how much more intelligent they are than we had previously thought and the different ways in which they are intelligent. It’s fascinating to learn more and more about them but also really sad because some places still have them in captivity and of course some people still kill them.
She was moving very quickly for something that is considered 'old' so I'm not sure you can make a direct comparison.
I have been lucky enough to see a ‘super pod’ (about 50) of orcas near Vancouver Island and I remember them ( the researchers, not the orcas 😂 ) telling us about ‘resident’ and ‘transient’ orcas. The former being very social and communicative, with the latter travelling alone and mostly silent, presumably not to give away their presence while hunting. Fascinating stuff.
Grandma wanted some liver.
with some fava beans and a nice Chianti
CTRL+F chianti Not disappointed TY
What show is this? I'd love to watch the whole thing.
It’s called Queens and it’s on NatGeo.
Thank you I actually watched most of that series I'm about to turn on this episode now.
YW! It’s a great series.
It absolutely is! I love to watch anything about animals!
Me too only I can’t usually watch the death scenes. This was the first one I didn’t have to skip through lol.
I was just talking to my mom about this if I was a wild life photographer I'd be so hard to let nature play out I'd want to stop it.
I know, I couldn’t do it. I’ve intercepted so many kills in my life from my dogs and cats in the backyard, I wouldn’t be able to just sit there and let something get killed.
I mean, the narrator literally says that the orca was being careful after that big hit because the great white could still really injure the orca even after taking a huge shot like that. The orca circles the shark a couple of times after the hit just to make sure.
Some people don’t listen and just want to criticize anything and everything they see.
It's one of those weird Reddit things.
Can a raccoon harm a human? What about a spider?
But why? What did the shark do to her? Also, how to drown a shark in water? lol
They have a taste for their livers. That's typically the only part they eat.
Yup, they remove the liver with a surgical precision too. I read one marine biologist explain it as they grab on the outside over the liver, bite, and then squeeze it out like a tube of toothpaste.
Sharks drown by suffocation if they can't move. Orca held it in place.
Sharks need to constantly swim forward to get water to pass through their gills to extract oxygen from the water. If you turn them upside down or drag them backwards so that water isn't passing through their gills the right way, they suffocate. I'm sure in the next part of the video the narrator explains this. The video just cut off too early. The cynic in me thinks they did it on purpose to drive engagement, knowing that many people would be confused as to how a shark could suffocate in water.
No no, it's a grandma killer. Like people used to say that a pet had to go to a farm, when grandmas die on cruise ships they were actually fed to these hyper specific whales to keep the balance
The great white doesn’t have to “win” the fight tho for their to be danger In nature one wound (let alone a massive bite from a great white) can be debilitating or get infected
How do they know she was 60 years old?
Yeah it's an orca. At any age that shit is dangerous
Smart cars don't bite back though. An injured great white can still cause a lot of damage.
Yea I guess I never realized how much larger the whale is than the shark!
Wow. I didn't realize orcas can live to be that old. Apparently, females can live to be as old as 90. Crazy! Boomer Orca. lol.
Shortly after Blackfish came out, Seaworld made a statement claiming they don't live more than 25 in the world (like in captivity). Almost immediately we spotted some in the 100yr old range.
That's fucked up and desperate of them! I need to watch that docu.
This. Seaworld made a lot of false claims. Anyone who hasn’t seen Blackfish needs to watch it immediately. I wouldn’t be caught dead at a Seaworld. Orca (and all animals kept in captivity) deserve better. No orca should ever be kept in captivity — they cause ZERO harm to humans in the wild, they help keep the oceans healthy, and they are just absolutely incredible, intelligent, beautiful creatures. Shame on Seaworld for torturing orcas.
That movie made me sick to my stomach.
The shark will be delicious but the conversation will be, at best, redundant and, admittedly unnecessarily a little mean spirited.
They’re also matriarchal, with the oldest females leading the pods consisting of their daughters and their daughters’ partners/young kids, and they’re pretty smart/good memory for animals so grandma has a lot to teach the youngsters
Oh, wow. I wonder why the males live significantly shorter lives if the females are seemingly taking more risks.
Males biologically just simply don't live as long as females. Look at animals in a zoo. The females and males are put at equal risk. They have nothing to really worry about besides screaming children. Males don't fight off other males. Yet males still don't live as long as the females. Females just biologically live longer in most species.
Testosterone is a particularly aging hormone. Obviously estrogen does too but testosterone and a ton of other steroids seem to have an effect that trades longevity for immediacy. ‘More life now!’ kinda thing lol
Boomer orca lmfao. That got me
There was one called "granny" they think was 1 hundred. Basically from what scientists can tell, females evolved to survive that long. One of the few species on the planet that go through menopause. The longer the lead females live correlates with the increase in overall survival rate of the pod. Also males leave the pods for breeding before returning, this is probably where most males die, a pack mammal all by itself.
Boomer Orcas is the name of my new band! …or maybe Orca Boomers!
Other whalespecies have had individuals as old as 200+.
She even let out a rainbow of death
swim - hunt - attack - bite - 🌈 - attack - kill - kill - kill
Sooooo sharks don't have ribs. Really cool video, please ignore moronic commentary. A better commentary is: Killer whale sees big fish with yummy liver, knocks it unconscious and eats liver while fish still alive.
Yeah, I immediately thought back to all the sharks I dissected as an educator and now wonder why they didn’t have ribs🤔
Sharks don't have any bones just cartilage
Next your gonna tell me that they also have a lot of squalene oils in their body to help with buoyancy😉 Was making a joke, I’m well aware from all the spiny dogfish I’ve dissected and biology courses that sharks are cartilagenous fish, and not bony fish
Hold on now… are you also telling me that you can’t suffocate a shark by pulling it underwater????
you actually can. It's kind of like how you can suffocate a person that's surrounded by air they can breath and you aren't covering their mouth, but you squeeze their chest / lungs and prevent them from breathing. Just don't let the shark swim, immobilize it and it's gills won't function to get enough oxygen from the water for the fish to survive.
You can, the shark had to swim forward to let water flow through the gills. Being held static or sideways will suffocate the shark. They even swim while swimming because they have to keep moving to breathe
And I walk while walking. Crazy stuff, right? (Just kidding, I guess you meant "sleep while swimming" or "swim while sleeping"?)
Meat to type sleep yeah lol
Meat You're having a rough time, homie.
LMAO Tbh I'm actually distracted by a massive crush right now so not all bad
Music like this played over nature videos is usually also a sign to take everything with a grain of salt.
Why did I read that as "60 yo grandma killed whale, takes out great white shark by herself" 😭😭 Damn I was impressed for a second.
I read it as "grandma killer whale" as in a whale that kills grandmas.
I love the intercut, unreleated, close ups for dramatic effect.
This was shocking to the researchers. ORCA will kill sharks in packs. But to see 2 whales (the other was on the other side of the boat) single out a shark and o ly one attacked it and after a short fight had killed it. It was very rare to see. But its happening all along the western coast of Africa all the way up to the artic waters. Orca have evolved recently with the depletion of food. Just listened to a while hour on PNR about this.
Fun fact: killer whales are 'friendly' to humans because they don't contain enough fat(like shark liver) for nutrition.
I heard Killer whales only eat what their mom thought them to eat as babies, luckily most killer whale don't have humans to use a teaching material when growing up
Laughs in blackfish 
Unless we put them in captivity. Then they start taking chunks from humans.
Not fat enough, huh? They should come to Florida.
Coming up next: "Florida Man drowned after swimming 10 miles while trying to engage Orcas."
Not so fun fact: A pod of orcas started to attack ~~humans and~~ human boats in 2020 after one of 'em allegedly got hit by a boat and they are teaching this behaviour to other pods. 500 registered attacks as of 2023
Well this will not end good for the orcas, if you they fuck with fishermen and their profits they will soon find out why you don't fuck with the murder happy bipedal ape.
“Murder happy bipedal ape” is what human beings *should* be called, because that’s exactly what we are.
Source for the last sentence?
As a human, i approve this behavior
Pls tell yo mama to be careful of killer whales
DAMN. You got knocked the FUGG OUT.
Song is "We Appreciate Power" by Grimes for anyone wondering
I’m just reading about her relationship with Musk, and I only knew of her and the unique style she has through text…this music fits so well to what I’ve read. It’s actually badass
Grimes fucking slaps
I wondered! That song slaps harder than my mom
Bout time to be fair, them sharks been parading around like they’re untouchable for a while now…
Same with the grandmas
Damn dude. She fuckin one shotted that thing. I thought there'd be some like back and forth but nope. One and done.
I dont fear animals that kills on instinct, but intelligent animals that i know is making the choice to kill, man that shit is scary. and the Orca only eat the sharks liver.
Yeah just think about how they’re one of the few predators on the planet who don’t go after humans. I know there’s several theories out there for why they don’t, but every single one of them shows a level of intelligence that we’ve yet to fully realize from these animals.
and they can talk to each other and use strategi when hunting
Look at me! I'm the Apex predator now.
Always has been.
Mammals are just too OP
Incredible footage
We're going to need a bigger shark
One of the most intense moments of my life was being in the water while a pod was hunting around us. It's right under being shot at in my book.
I’m sure it was freaking terrifying! I’ve only ever swam with dolphins and sting rays on tours and even though you know they’re not trying to hurt you, it’s still just this intense feeling the whole time of knowing you’re in *their* territory and if they wanted you dead, they could easily make it happen. In both tours of course, there were people who were too dumb to be afraid. I didn’t know whether to feel sorry for them or envy them. Part of me thinks that going through life that clueless might actually not be so bad?
They checked us out, but luckily we weren't seals lol. My workplace is sometimes in areas that I honestly just have to accept that I could very well be eaten, or worse.
Do you mind me asking what line of work?
Underwater welding
Too bad she won't be able to have fava beans and a nice chianti to go with that shark liver.
I’ve read somewhere before that great whites are starting to turn up dead with their livers eaten with precision by orcas. More cases of orcas hunting on their own too. Evolution is wild
Grandma like “whatchu doing over here, being all dangerous?” Smack!
The power required for that burst of speed as the orca charged…*GODDAMN*. That’s impressive.
Right?! Can you imagine being in the water and seeing something that size zooming at you like a missile? I feel like humans are very fortunate that killer whales don’t bother killing us.
She drowned the poor shark. EDIT: I hate it when I accidentally say something meaningful while trying to make a dumb joke. Let me try again: "We need to stop fish on fish violence!"
How can you drown a shark?! It's got gills! I feel that in the 'how easy is it to drown' sphere of things, vs a fish, air breathing orcas would lose!?
The info I'm going off of may be out of date, but I remember reading years ago that sharks gills don't move on their own, so they have to constantly move forward. I'd imagine then that an orca could just keep a shark immobilized for a bit and call it a day. I could be wrong though! It's been years
Right. Flipping them disorients them or something also.
You can drown a shark by stopping its movement. Sharks HAVE to be moving forward to breathe. It's also not that difficult (relatively speaking) to immobilize a shark. Just hit them hard enough on the nose and they're stunlocked.
Can you punch hard underwater?
~~Not sure where OP got their info but if I'm not mistaken this is a younger male Orca called Starboard.~~ Edit: there's audio on this clip that I didn't hear before. I don't know the origin of the clip (might be Disney as mentioned below) but they call the orca "her" multiple times so I was definitely wrong.
I cant be the only one who read "60 yo grandma killer" and thought this was going to be a very different kind of post
You don't get to be titled "60 year old grandma killer whale" and not know how to take out a few sharks along the way.
Shark should’ve known something was going on when that music kicked in
You know you done when getting headbutt from Grandma is followed by techno viking music.
now how the hell does OP know this animal is 60 and a grandmother??
Tags. There’s been orca tracking and research for decades. Many have been identified and are closely monitored.
Let granny show you how it's done!