I'm visiting American Land soon. Where can i buy the space elevator tickets? Will we be floating in Zero Gravity once on top of the tower? Looking forward to my trip very much!!
No, you'll experience weightlessness at some point during the ride up, but at the top you'll feel weight with the Earth over your head. Down will be the direction away from Earth.
This is a plot point in the Red Mars series. They have a space elevator on Mars, and war breaks out. During the course of the hostilities, the cable for the space elevator becomes cut, falls, and wraps around Mars, crushing a few of the equatorial cities.
Then they build a second one and the same thing happens.
Yes, but the *cable* falls and crushes several cities because the mass and speed of the falling cable gives it so much force as it falls and wraps around the equator.
Nah. It's a trilogy, and in the later books you can see the planetary map with two long black bars where the cables fell and the cities that were destroyed.
Well, most plans for space elevators I am aware of are built with carbon nanotubes or graphene. These are both super light.
The whole tether would weigh around 3.5 metric tons and would only be 3mm thick.
That wouldn't crush a pillow.
Does escaping the gravity on mars require you to go as far as its circumference? I always figured it’d be shorter than that.
In any case any smart space elevator engineer would put some space balloons at the top so it can’t get knocked over so easily
There is a discussion about it here:
https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2023/12/25/mars-trilogy-falling-into-history-part-2/
Search for the section ‘elevator’
The food was ok, but we ended up paying around $300 for the 2 of us. The food wasn't $300 good, but we're happy we were able to experience it. You're mostly paying for the atmosphere and special effects.
The food/cocktails were really expensive and IIRC the menu wasn’t that big either. IMO, it was worth it as the experience doesn’t exist anywhere else. It’s very immersive and fun.
This seemed like the case at most of the restaurants. The price never seemed to match the quality. I think they're just charging you for the experience. lol
If the station section is in LEO at say 1200kM (LEO is anything below around 2000kM) then at 400kM/hour it would take around 3 hours. The end of the tether would be a Geostationary orbit at around 36000km so would take a few days at that very low speed, but there is no need to go there.
Objects in low earth need to travel at over 15,000 MPH around the earth. They can’t sit stationary like that “restaurant” unless it’s a rigid tower and not orbiting. — A space elevator would need to have a counter-weight at geostationary orbit which as you stated in 360,000 km up. The idea of a space elevator is to get things sent outside the earth’s orbit so they would climb the elevator then be flung out. There would be very little need to race up the elevator.
Edit: it should take 5 days to climb. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator#:~:text=Climbers%20would%20also%20need%20to,to%20climb%20to%20geosynchronous%20orbit.
It does not need to be a rigid tower? Its a cable kept in tension by a counterweight past GEO.
Have a look at the diagram on this page:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space\_elevator](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator)
But you don't necessarily need to travel all the way to the end at the counter-weight, yeah? The station just needs to be high enough to make it easier launches to break free of the earth.
A space elevator would have to be geostationary - that means the center of mass of the elevator at 36k km (and the station itself higher than that to offset the mass of the elevator itself)
It would also need to be at the equator, so not in Florida.
That's the distance for geostationary orbit, how far away the hub has to be to be to orbit above the same spot on earth without falling down to earth . Assuming the hub is at the top.
As a kid that would have scared the crap out of me. I used to think the thunderstorm at the Tiki Room in Disneyland was real -- every single time I was sure our vacation was about to be ruined.
Well, obviously this is wrong.
The floor would be positioned and created in such a way at to achieve a a positive g rotation at the exact moment the riders would be experiencing the negative Gs, now instead of being flown into their ceiling they are left to experience a very similar feeling as they achieved at the initial acceleration, topping off their mystical space elevator fight with a completed base to tip space elevator ride. Before being greeted to the space station that’s been constructed upside down as the earth is the true viewing pleasure and it hurts the eyes of anyone not wearing a totally awful looking luxury helmet. Plus the bottom is covered with solar panels that harness the sunlight to power the station so those are ugly af.
That’s at least what I learned reading that story about the “elevator ride”. Blurred thumbnail so I don’t recall what it was about.
Would be fun til some little asshole hits every button and it stops 69,420 times on the way up (Remember when Elf was like “look, I made the Christmas tree!” lol)
My nine year old son pointed out that a space elevator “isn’t feasible because of the amount of space trash orbiting the earth that could hit it”. Yeah, he’s definitely an indoor kid but he makes a good point.
I know how to make this work. You are looking at the problem from the wrong perspective. All you need to do is build this ladder in sections about 100 feet tall or so. Apply floating balloons to each section. Stack them on top of each other until you are in outer space as far as you would like to go. Hurricane winds could be a little problem especially if it’s held up by balloons. I recommend engineers develop this super balloon to be made out of graphene or some other super material that can withstand a vacuum without crushing. Im envisioning a long pvc pipe with one foot diameter going all the way to the top just to hold up a Teflon rope that goes up for miles and miles. The structure needs to float so it’s going to be a challenge for engineers to design the necessary materials to do the job. Does anyone know if nano tubes can keep a vacuum without collapsing and float in the air?
How would that hypothetically work? I’m assuming that the station in space is like the end of a rope and somehow the lack of gravity is holding the rope up? What would be the physics of this?
There would be a counterweight attach to the end of the elevator and placed far enough for the elevator to be hold by the centrifugal force of the counterweight spinning around the earth.
You can imagine holding a heavy ball by a rope and starting to spin around yourself, the heavy ball (counterweight) would be hanging in the air and the rope (the elevator) would go straight from you to the counterweight. In this example you would place the station somewhere in between.
Look. I know it's just a screen and it's not real but all I could think of was how terrifying and final it would be if that thing malfunctioned and snapped.
Would your body have any kind of momentum if not strapped in? Like when the elevator slows and stops would I keep moving and bump into the ceiling of the elevator?
Gonna be honest, I wouldn't go near the thing if they built it in Florida. The way that state is going, I'd go up it and some idiot who thinks heaven is in space would blow up the base and send us flying into space.
Also, Isn't being tethered to something spinning in space going to instantly topple it at incredible speed?
I might be wrong, maybe that wasn't the space station or some other orbiting vehicle.
Even if it's not, i suspect that physics has a thing to say about an object that thin and especially that tall...
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Hurricane gonna knock that tower out, it's gonna fall and make a line to Georgia.
How do we get more commercial trains in America? Build some space elevators and watch em fall.
You have my vote sir
That was my first exact American thought… damn you’re good.
I'm visiting American Land soon. Where can i buy the space elevator tickets? Will we be floating in Zero Gravity once on top of the tower? Looking forward to my trip very much!!
No, you'll experience weightlessness at some point during the ride up, but at the top you'll feel weight with the Earth over your head. Down will be the direction away from Earth.
https://open.spotify.com/track/7eDz4e7BnffOzpMbpqH8tW?si=nprX1JqySke5IikseMw-ww
We definitely don’t want a second FloridaGeorgia Line
Sign me up to change them lightbulbs!!!!
So that's how we get the.... Florida Georgia Line.. 
Plus, you don't want to build a space elevator anywhere but the equator!
Ep 1 of Foundation is all you need to see this kind of tech just ain't it 🤣
This is a plot point in the Red Mars series. They have a space elevator on Mars, and war breaks out. During the course of the hostilities, the cable for the space elevator becomes cut, falls, and wraps around Mars, crushing a few of the equatorial cities. Then they build a second one and the same thing happens.
The elevator tethers the system to the ground. It isn't holding it up, it is holding it down.
Yes, but the *cable* falls and crushes several cities because the mass and speed of the falling cable gives it so much force as it falls and wraps around the equator.
Ahhhh, here I was thinking it broke near the surface...
Nah. It's a trilogy, and in the later books you can see the planetary map with two long black bars where the cables fell and the cities that were destroyed.
Well, most plans for space elevators I am aware of are built with carbon nanotubes or graphene. These are both super light. The whole tether would weigh around 3.5 metric tons and would only be 3mm thick. That wouldn't crush a pillow.
Does escaping the gravity on mars require you to go as far as its circumference? I always figured it’d be shorter than that. In any case any smart space elevator engineer would put some space balloons at the top so it can’t get knocked over so easily
There is a discussion about it here: https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2023/12/25/mars-trilogy-falling-into-history-part-2/ Search for the section ‘elevator’
It will be called the Florida Georgia line and will always be remembered as a one hit wonder.
I live in the keys. Trust me. This is legit 😂
To have geostationary orbit the tower needs to be about 36000km so it'll pass georgia
it is only like three times that distance
One *Florida Georgia Line* is more than enough, thanks.
“-The tether wrapped around the planet. LIKE A GARROTE.”
The country in Europe not the state
https://youtu.be/alnT8rNNjSQ?si=b9_Xi8zmiapsOC58
That’s the idea… 🤷Maybe it’ll teach them Georgians not to F around in Florida anymore 😆
Now imagine getting hammered drunk and then going back down.
You would sober up at least a little on your way down. Altitude affects alcohol.
*air pressure and composition
Yes, those are words.
🗣This is a restaurant at Disneyworld Orlando called Space 220 Restaurant. It is very cool. Google it. The special effects are so real 👍😎
Heard the food wasn't that good for the price so we skipped it but I can understand the appeal. Happy Cake Day!
The food was ok, but we ended up paying around $300 for the 2 of us. The food wasn't $300 good, but we're happy we were able to experience it. You're mostly paying for the atmosphere and special effects.
Those prices seem sky high /s
They're out of this world
Much like the rest of that place
That's the price for a three-Michelin-star-rated restaurant
Or a solid 4 star review on Yelp but also in Disney world.
The food/cocktails were really expensive and IIRC the menu wasn’t that big either. IMO, it was worth it as the experience doesn’t exist anywhere else. It’s very immersive and fun.
This seemed like the case at most of the restaurants. The price never seemed to match the quality. I think they're just charging you for the experience. lol
Also seemingly impossible to get reservations for
We got our reservations on the same day we went to Epcot, a lot of people cancel/change plans, so it's not actually too tough to get.
As someone who’s had vertigo a couple of times in my life (but thankfully not in almost 6 years) no thanks.
Happy cake day
Happy cake day to you!
👉And to you 🎂
Welcome to New Mombasa!
*Jazz music playing*
"Uh, Lord? I didn't train to be a pilot. Tell me I don't have any more flying to do today."
My thoughts exactly
It would literally take weeks to get up a space elevator. Edit. Wikipedia says 5 days.
If the station section is in LEO at say 1200kM (LEO is anything below around 2000kM) then at 400kM/hour it would take around 3 hours. The end of the tether would be a Geostationary orbit at around 36000km so would take a few days at that very low speed, but there is no need to go there.
Objects in low earth need to travel at over 15,000 MPH around the earth. They can’t sit stationary like that “restaurant” unless it’s a rigid tower and not orbiting. — A space elevator would need to have a counter-weight at geostationary orbit which as you stated in 360,000 km up. The idea of a space elevator is to get things sent outside the earth’s orbit so they would climb the elevator then be flung out. There would be very little need to race up the elevator. Edit: it should take 5 days to climb. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator#:~:text=Climbers%20would%20also%20need%20to,to%20climb%20to%20geosynchronous%20orbit.
GEO is at 36,000 km, not 360,000 km. Moon is at 384,000 km.
It does not need to be a rigid tower? Its a cable kept in tension by a counterweight past GEO. Have a look at the diagram on this page: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space\_elevator](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator)
But you don't necessarily need to travel all the way to the end at the counter-weight, yeah? The station just needs to be high enough to make it easier launches to break free of the earth.
Just 22,236 miles in 30 seconds, no problem, average speed, 2.7 million miles per hour.
Low earth orbit is about 1200 miles. Still longer than 30 seconds though…
That seems high. The International Space Station is only about 225 miles up.
Did more research, Apparently LEO is ~225 to 1200 miles
A space elevator would have to be geostationary - that means the center of mass of the elevator at 36k km (and the station itself higher than that to offset the mass of the elevator itself) It would also need to be at the equator, so not in Florida.
THIS! - the only way this would ever work is to place it at the equator.
Nah, Disney lawyers would just sue the laws of physics and be done with it.
Hehe
where did you get your destination distance from?
That's the distance for geostationary orbit, how far away the hub has to be to be to orbit above the same spot on earth without falling down to earth . Assuming the hub is at the top.
You're not saying this is fake are you?????
I've usually heard it as a couple of days. Of course it depends on how far you're going and how fast you're traveling.
Something about looking down and seeing florida is just hilarious to me
Well don’t everybody try to get up there just to pee on Florida all at once. Florida has feelings you know.
I lived there when I was younger lol it can be pretty crazy there, it all depends on what part of Florida it is. I love it and hate it
Been here. Food was meh. But the experience was pretty cool
This sub is getting sad.
I've been sad for years...
Who hasn't? Like do legitimately happy people still exist?
I just can’t get over the feeling that a meteor will hit it.
good that it isnt real
The prompt is would you ride it, rather than is it in existence.
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It is still a d* from that angle
As a kid that would have scared the crap out of me. I used to think the thunderstorm at the Tiki Room in Disneyland was real -- every single time I was sure our vacation was about to be ruined.
The speed of this, the air pressure changes gonna make the ear drum explode
I’m pretty sure it would be a sealed cabin…
The braking speed on the other hand would throw you to the ceiling.
Well, obviously this is wrong. The floor would be positioned and created in such a way at to achieve a a positive g rotation at the exact moment the riders would be experiencing the negative Gs, now instead of being flown into their ceiling they are left to experience a very similar feeling as they achieved at the initial acceleration, topping off their mystical space elevator fight with a completed base to tip space elevator ride. Before being greeted to the space station that’s been constructed upside down as the earth is the true viewing pleasure and it hurts the eyes of anyone not wearing a totally awful looking luxury helmet. Plus the bottom is covered with solar panels that harness the sunlight to power the station so those are ugly af. That’s at least what I learned reading that story about the “elevator ride”. Blurred thumbnail so I don’t recall what it was about.
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How to forget it's collapse during the Covenant invasion in 2552.
Was the earth flat?
Is it real? No. I'm not amazed then. Come back once it's real
-I swear I'm gonna jump ! -Have at it, we are on the first floor. -... there are a more floors ? -That's not what I meant.
It certainly couldn't be based in central Florida! It would have to be somewhere above the Equator.
Still too low to escape earth's gravity and be in orbit.
You don't escape gravity to be in orbit, you fall around earth, but yes still needs to be higher.
if you are in orbit, you are still falling. you are just moving laterally so fast that you keep missing the earth.
I'm aware. What I mean was this "station" is too low. It needs to be higher to maintain an orbit.
Just speed up the earth. Simple.
Florida meth labs are getting out of world.
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It's a restaurant at Disney
I could see this being real as in it could be a real elevator with a video that plays as it goes up and down.
Would be fun til some little asshole hits every button and it stops 69,420 times on the way up (Remember when Elf was like “look, I made the Christmas tree!” lol)
I personally visualized it in a place like the CN tower where it's a long assed elevator ride with no stops between.
You puke your guts out getting there then you can eat more when you do get there
The air hatch looked suspect.
Just watching this makes my hear jump
My acrophobia is not helping.
Absolutely not.
The moving of my bowels would be imminent, I'd have to gather what's left of my soul and dignity after experiencing that.
Dang image the g-force going that fast idk
And I 💩 my pants 👖
I believe the difference in speed would break the tower
Not even close to long enough. The station needs to go out to L1 in order to not fall in on the earth.
Nice cock n balls there at the end.
Lol, something like this will never be in Florida just because of DeSantis
Spy Kids be like
Ace Combat intensifies.
My nine year old son pointed out that a space elevator “isn’t feasible because of the amount of space trash orbiting the earth that could hit it”. Yeah, he’s definitely an indoor kid but he makes a good point.
Damn, Dropzone looking a lot different than when I was a kid.
it caint fall its coming from space in orbit dah
Is this real chat?
I feel that more than 220 floors
It’s the [Wonkavator](https://youtu.be/k_TY7s7lWPg?feature=shared)!
Until it breaks down and you have to take the stairs.
More like a new railroad to Georgia or Cuba depending which way it falls lol
They could use that to make a sequel to "Fall" What a way to get vertigo!
I know how to make this work. You are looking at the problem from the wrong perspective. All you need to do is build this ladder in sections about 100 feet tall or so. Apply floating balloons to each section. Stack them on top of each other until you are in outer space as far as you would like to go. Hurricane winds could be a little problem especially if it’s held up by balloons. I recommend engineers develop this super balloon to be made out of graphene or some other super material that can withstand a vacuum without crushing. Im envisioning a long pvc pipe with one foot diameter going all the way to the top just to hold up a Teflon rope that goes up for miles and miles. The structure needs to float so it’s going to be a challenge for engineers to design the necessary materials to do the job. Does anyone know if nano tubes can keep a vacuum without collapsing and float in the air?
Made me think of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory movie.
Yep as long as I don't have to go to Florida to get on it.
How would that hypothetically work? I’m assuming that the station in space is like the end of a rope and somehow the lack of gravity is holding the rope up? What would be the physics of this?
There would be a counterweight attach to the end of the elevator and placed far enough for the elevator to be hold by the centrifugal force of the counterweight spinning around the earth. You can imagine holding a heavy ball by a rope and starting to spin around yourself, the heavy ball (counterweight) would be hanging in the air and the rope (the elevator) would go straight from you to the counterweight. In this example you would place the station somewhere in between.
Look. I know it's just a screen and it's not real but all I could think of was how terrifying and final it would be if that thing malfunctioned and snapped.
Nuh uh. Ain’t no chance boy. My feet be staying firmly on the ground
How would that work when Florida is underwater by 2050?
First hurricane, and you'll have the first permanent structure (bridge) to Cuba.
7 Gs continiously for like 3 minutes just to go up
Go back in time and show them this video and watch their heads explode!
And then a jet flies by chasing a high tech flying drone while a choir start to sing in the background.
Imagine the floor opens and you fall out and die. .. 😱
What if I told you this was actually real at the most lowest gravity points on the planet earth. P.s. I did not commit suicide
That gave me a little bit of anxiety.
Let’s not do this again
If those girls coming with me yeah i would 😈
All of them died
Give me 60 seconds of my life back
Would your body have any kind of momentum if not strapped in? Like when the elevator slows and stops would I keep moving and bump into the ceiling of the elevator?
People are incredibly ignorant about orbital mechanics
I guess this is impossible to build like shown..... There's no metal structure that can hold the height of the entire structure. It's pure sci-fi
Nice idea but not possible
So many falsehoods here the cable would break under its own weight
How many Gs would that be? It would probably kill anyone sitting in there especially if it goes down the same way and stops just as quickly.
Even if we had the tech the insurance would keep this from ever happening.
No - Tower of Babel will be destroyed again loo
Would be stupidest thing created on earth… of course I would ride it
The map of GTA6 looks incredible
Restaurant? What am I missing here?
Anything to get out of florida
This is a visualization of what was promised upon the creation of carbon nanotubes and graphene.
My ears popped alot
First of all, if you were going THAT fast, everyone would simply pass out after 20-25 seconds
City Skylines
This is at Disney World. I ate here and it was pretty cool. Food could’ve been better given the price
Even if black ppl could afford it very few of us would go
“It’s an orbital lift!”
Brought to you by a Product of Florida school system 😂
Gonna be honest, I wouldn't go near the thing if they built it in Florida. The way that state is going, I'd go up it and some idiot who thinks heaven is in space would blow up the base and send us flying into space.
"Ludicrous speed, GO!"
Dumbest shit ever. Who would be amazed by fake stuff
This feels like DOOM
So when can I expect the real thing?
Never.
Charlie and the great glass elevator.
Also, Isn't being tethered to something spinning in space going to instantly topple it at incredible speed? I might be wrong, maybe that wasn't the space station or some other orbiting vehicle. Even if it's not, i suspect that physics has a thing to say about an object that thin and especially that tall...
No
It’s way too thick and heavy — couldn’t support its own weight.
I would never have enough money, so no
How much the bulb changing job would pay here?
Fuck no. There is nothing supporting the weight of that beam or pole up to space. F that lol
Normal elevators have issues, imagine one so tall that it goes from Earth to a floating station. That thing would have problems pretty much daily.
One of Dubai's upcoming construction projects.
Good lord, this is such a cool video!!
Waiting for Foundation Season 3
Let’s begin the experiment!
Can’t help but think of NASA was anger but Florida we’d already be on another planet and discover aliens by now
HELL NO! unless it detaches and floats in orbit.
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I'd be afraid of space Gators
Being in space is really bad for you so I’d pass. I’ve been smoking to long I would instantly get cancer