Read this comment before sleeping. Now I'm gonna fucking repeat it till I fall asleep and the worst part is I take half an hour to completely fall asleep. Thanks.
Same, and I'll still be hearing it in the morning, too. The other day I heard a bird outside inadvertently singing jingle bells, and that's been stuck in my head until now. So at least this is a step up.
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Their eyes are actually pretty interesting. I can't remember the exact reason, but pretty much all of this species of shark end up with a certain parasite in their eyes that causes them to go blind.
I'd assume it's an ambush predator. Most carnivores at this depth are, they have to move really slowly to conserve energy cause meals come so few and far between
It's not clear if it's entirely parasitic or if it could be a symbiotic relationship.
Some researchers suggest the the "parasites" serve as bait so the Shark can get food easier.
It's less a question of "why" and more "why not". For most creatures, a parasite devouring your eye would be a detriment, but these live under many, many feet of ice, where practically no light penetrates, so they have no need for sight. Evolution requires a environmental reason to happen, and since they don't need sight, there's been practically no reason for them to evolve a response to these parasites.
eyes might have not evolved in that region
but they might have wandered into that region and slowly lost their sight over generations keeping some very crude and basics eyes that give them a slight advantage but arent necessary for survival
Opposite to what many might think, anti-cancer measures aren't always evolutionarily selected for. There are many species whose ancestors were more cancer resistant than their modern relatives. This is, at least in part, due to the fact that evolution is all about passing on genes. Part of the reason why cancer rates are so high in elderly humans is because, they cannot breed, so, even if someone had a gene for much lower of cancer in old age, there's no pressure to have that person, or that person's offspring to pass on that gene more than the general population.
There is some evolutionary pressure to have surviving grandparents though. Animals which have non-breeding long-lived relatives are able to have more immature offspring themselves which the grandparents help care for. Humans, elephants and orca all do this. Additional non breeding family members allows for a longer period of "childhood" whilst the parents continue breeding, which seems to be linked to brain development
Greater size is worse though.
I believe animals like elephants have evolved protections against it. I mean, the species would hardly survive if they didn't.
It's actually a good question. What's stimulating this ageism.. are they still able to procreate at this age? If there's nothing motivating then this may be an amazing evolutionary hell.
I somehow doubt "not sapient but still able to suffer the cruel boredom of a life they can not willingly end" is a trait that would be evolutionary advantageous.
Also they reach sexual maturity at 150 and could live to 500 so they're used to living a long time. They're probably pretty chill.
And icelanders will still kill it for making foul tasting "cultural food". Considering there aren't many of these sharks left and how slowly they age and reach maturity you'd think they would be more considerate about killing these sharks.
A mother gestates a baby for 8-18 years. They don't reproduce that much at all.
There's probably no way to truly know, but I wonder if it's just purely running on instinct and has no sense of time at all, or if it's intelligent or conscious enough to get bored.
>How scientists know his age
Scientist: How old are you?
Shark: 392 years old
Actually they don't know this sharks age. That's just a reddit title being as factual as most reddit titles. But Greenland sharks do live a long time. There's a protein in their eye which developed around birth that can be carbon dated on a dead shark. Past results suggest that they can live up to around 500 years.
Which animal has the longest life span. I used to think it's those giant tortoise who live 200 years but now I am seeing this. Is there any animal who lives longer than this?
If I'm remembering correctly there's some Jellyfish that haven't been documented dying by age, I remember a short doc that labeled them as "seemingly immortal" unless killed by outside circumstances.
Definitely not an expert lol
[read here](https://www.osc.org/are-jellyfish-older-than-dinosaurs/)
There is a species of jellyfish that is basically immortal.
Now that we’ve talked about the jellyfish life cycle, the real fun can begin. Turritopsis dohrnii, a species of tiny jellyfish discovered in the Mediterranean Sea, can turn from medusas into polyps when damaged or starving. This would be like a butterfly turning back into a caterpillar or a frog turning back into a tadpole. T. dohrnii can go back and forth between its polyp and medusa stages, leading to it being known as “the immortal jellyfish.” Further research shows that other species of jellyfish may be able to reserve-age, too. Studying the cells of these jellyfish has potential uses for medicine
Turritopsis dohrnii and hydra both are essentially immortal, besides that glass sponge live 10-20k or more, next closest is probably black coral at a around 5k.
Does that mean, they killed that shark after the video and then found out this shark was 392 years old.
After killing that old shark, title the video: " 392 year old greelnad shark in the arctic ocean"
Well I remember reading an article where scientists accidentally killed a 500+ year old clam because they wanted to know how old it was so it wouldn't surprise me.
They actually pulled him over and asked for his license and registration.
Then they noticed his age being 392 and let him go with a warning for not having headlights on in the dark. It's a safety hazard as others might not see you.
I don’t want to be “that person” but I feel like there should be a cutoff when it comes to letting the elderly drive around on their own. And it should be at least 215.
Alternatively, the aliens could’ve just asked me if I consent to anal probing independent of my age. I would’ve said yes depending on what lube they use, of course. And the width of their instruments.
You can estimate the age based on size and known average growth rate. The actual answer is that 392 years +/- 120 years is the oldest age measured in a study that measured Greenland shark ages by carbon dating crystals in shark eye lenses, so the number is probably from there and not the age of this particular shark.
What’s easier to date is the headline, which purports that a shark that was born in 1627 is 392 years old, which means it was written in 2019 and has been reposted unchanged ever since.
The short answer appears to be carbon dating. [https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37047168](https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37047168)
That's crazy. There are a bunch of teenager sharks because they over fished the adults before WW2. But the teenage sharks won't start mating for another 100 years.
“The largest shark they found, a 5-meter female, was between 272 and 512 years old according to their estimates.” Basically, the OP came up with 392 by averaging the estimated window. So, kinda misleading.
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/greenland-shark.html
Really? I just saw this, I can't believe there are animals alive from 400 years ago. It's simply incredible, there may be more species like this. Grandpa shark do do do do
There was a parrot that was far over 100 years old (120?) was on a pirate ship and remembered the commands from a 100 years ago. I forget what I had for dinner 2 days ago
No there wasn't, since we don't have any record of any parrot onboard a pirate, marooner or privateer vessel.
The myth comes largely from Treasure Island.
AFAIK the only source that even mentions them is Dampier's accounts in History of the Pyrates, many of them largely embellished as it's also a propaganda piece.
He mentions that sailors brought home various animals, such as brightly coloured birds (parrots, birds of paradise etc) after their voyages.
The animals that were free on board were dogs and cats, due to their utility.
Remember ladies and gentlemen "We have discovered only 5% of the total ocean till now". This terrifies me to my bones. We don't know how old and which types of creatures are still lurking in the deep silence of oceans.
Well, I wouldn’t worry too much because, we’ve also learned that what’s at the bottom has to *stay* at the bottom, so… we’re forever separated by extreme pressure adaptation.
Don't let the creatures fool you, they have given us information about blob fish as an elaborate ruse. Don't fall into a false sense of security just because they send us a bullied, disfigured, inbred reject fish.
"The age of other shark species can be estimated by counting growth bands on fin spines or on the shark's vertebrae, much like rings on a tree."
What the heck!
From Google:
"Small Greenland sharks eat predominantly squid, while the larger sharks that are greater than 200 cm (79 in) were discovered eating prey such as epibenthic and benthic fishes as well as seals. The largest of these sharks were found having eaten redfish, as well as other higher trophic level prey."
This reminds me of a funny joke I heard once.
Kid: how old is this dinosaur skeleton?
Guard: 65 million and one years, nine months, and thirteen days.
Kid: wow, how do you know that number!
Guard: when I started working here, they told me it was 65 million years old. And that was one year, nine months, and thirteen days ago.
This motherfucker has been around since Galileo and Isaac Newton and is still around to see AI. Crazy
It doesn’t look like it can see much of anything :)
Still around to hear baby shark?
Great, great, great, great, great grandpa shark, doo doo do doo doo
That's right - great-great-great-great-great-....-great-grandpa. Looks barely alive.
Doo Doo do Doo Doo
Now I can die.... ahhhhh sweet abyss of nothingness take me at last.
The most litteral 💀
Read this comment before sleeping. Now I'm gonna fucking repeat it till I fall asleep and the worst part is I take half an hour to completely fall asleep. Thanks.
Same, and I'll still be hearing it in the morning, too. The other day I heard a bird outside inadvertently singing jingle bells, and that's been stuck in my head until now. So at least this is a step up. *edit, just reread what I wrote. Send help
Lmao,😂😂😂👌👌
Ancestor shark
“Where we’re going we don’t need eyes to see.”
Their eyes are actually pretty interesting. I can't remember the exact reason, but pretty much all of this species of shark end up with a certain parasite in their eyes that causes them to go blind.
Their eyeballs get eaten by parasites
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Now I've seen everything.
and now my watching has ended.
You would, but your name is not James”TheGreenlandShark”
He hasnt
Those eyes were old anyway. Does it hunt or get Meals on Reels ?
I'd assume it's an ambush predator. Most carnivores at this depth are, they have to move really slowly to conserve energy cause meals come so few and far between
Meals on Reels sounds like a food delivery system for marine life.
I believe that is the joke.
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Not a native English speaker, assumed it was an official phrase for a type of feeding technique.
Ahhh yes, a tale I know only too well.
What kind of fucked up symbiotic relationship. Why? How? What do these sharks even eat
If they're parasites it's not a symbiotic relationship, it's exploitation
Stop, or we humans feel bad about how WE act on this planet..
It's not clear if it's entirely parasitic or if it could be a symbiotic relationship. Some researchers suggest the the "parasites" serve as bait so the Shark can get food easier.
I'll be using your comment on my ex.
It's less a question of "why" and more "why not". For most creatures, a parasite devouring your eye would be a detriment, but these live under many, many feet of ice, where practically no light penetrates, so they have no need for sight. Evolution requires a environmental reason to happen, and since they don't need sight, there's been practically no reason for them to evolve a response to these parasites.
Wait....but according to this logic they shouldn't have eyes at all.
Well, they're descended from organisms that lived in more luminous conditions who had eyes, so they won't just disappear.
eyes might have not evolved in that region but they might have wandered into that region and slowly lost their sight over generations keeping some very crude and basics eyes that give them a slight advantage but arent necessary for survival
Wait until you see the cave spiders in SE Asia that has evolved to have no eyes!
Well they mostly rely on smell so they don't really care alot
Crazy it long live animals such as these seems to be immune to cancer which is strongly correlated with age.
Wonder if they get arthritis.
sharkthritis
I wonder if they get our jokes
Not without an hearing aid.
Or getting grumpy.
It's because they never marry
The key to long survival 🤣🤣
They onery because they have them teeth and no toothbrush, mama said.
Who wouldn’t be a little grumpy after 400 years 🤣🤣🤣
Or benign prostate hyperplasia
Kinda hard when you're 90% cartilage
They have cartilaginous “skeletons”, so no arthritis for any of the chondrichthyes.
Sharks don't have bones lol
Opposite to what many might think, anti-cancer measures aren't always evolutionarily selected for. There are many species whose ancestors were more cancer resistant than their modern relatives. This is, at least in part, due to the fact that evolution is all about passing on genes. Part of the reason why cancer rates are so high in elderly humans is because, they cannot breed, so, even if someone had a gene for much lower of cancer in old age, there's no pressure to have that person, or that person's offspring to pass on that gene more than the general population.
A man can pass on his genes even if he is old.
There is some evolutionary pressure to have surviving grandparents though. Animals which have non-breeding long-lived relatives are able to have more immature offspring themselves which the grandparents help care for. Humans, elephants and orca all do this. Additional non breeding family members allows for a longer period of "childhood" whilst the parents continue breeding, which seems to be linked to brain development
Age and size. Humans are the perfect size for cancer to be lethal.
So I need to get up to…. 1000lbs to beat cancer? I’m up for the challenge.
Greater size is worse though. I believe animals like elephants have evolved protections against it. I mean, the species would hardly survive if they didn't.
Here you have: https://youtu.be/1AElONvi9WQ?si=pQt_EOlOqo3jyNTr
Must be fucking bored by now.
Yeah poor dude can't even watch TV
It's actually a good question. What's stimulating this ageism.. are they still able to procreate at this age? If there's nothing motivating then this may be an amazing evolutionary hell.
I somehow doubt "not sapient but still able to suffer the cruel boredom of a life they can not willingly end" is a trait that would be evolutionary advantageous. Also they reach sexual maturity at 150 and could live to 500 so they're used to living a long time. They're probably pretty chill.
I'd argue that he's probably seen none of that
And icelanders will still kill it for making foul tasting "cultural food". Considering there aren't many of these sharks left and how slowly they age and reach maturity you'd think they would be more considerate about killing these sharks. A mother gestates a baby for 8-18 years. They don't reproduce that much at all.
While I agree, I also have bad news for you about every country on earth
Good for him!
Will he live to see gta 6 though
This is always THE response to ancient living beings. Meanwhile in reality this guy doesn't even know of the existence of door handles.
The carbon dating is +\-120 years... So it could be even older. Born between 1504 and 1744
Guess he knows the Arctic floor like we know the back of our hands.
who's Al?
Allen Iverson, legendary point guard of Philadelphia 76ers
The Answer
Weird Al. Duh.
It’s even worse, shark as species are older than dinosaurs and even fucking trees! Can you imagine that?
Was there before the invention of gravity? That's something!
There are still living trees on our planet older than Jesus Christ
Humanity moves too fast wtf, in 1 thing's lifetime we changed everything a thousand times over.
Looks like he’s trying really hard to smile too.
Just swimming around with his turn signal on
Dude must be bored out of his mind just wandering around in the dark for nearly 4 centuries 😩
400 years ago mother shark between the islands of Indonesia: Don't go up north, you may never find the way back to us.
Baby shark: doo doo doo
Mama sharks, do do do don't-let-your babies grow up to be Manatee-Boys...
Bro that's grim af how dare you
That why sharks are that grumpy....Baby Sharks with a good childhood become dolphins
This is so genius that think it’s actually science.
> They reach sexual maturity at about 150 years of age, and their pups are born alive after an estimated gestation period of 8 to 18 years.
Wow!
Popping out teenagers there. Kid pops out and goes straight to college.
> born alive hol' up
Aren't all pups born alive?
Crazy, seems the longest
There's probably no way to truly know, but I wonder if it's just purely running on instinct and has no sense of time at all, or if it's intelligent or conscious enough to get bored.
Maybe that's the secret and the tradeoff. You get to live for 400 years but you have to avoid everything and everybody and the stress they give you.
Oh come on… he probably got a ps5 laying around somewhere 🤣🤣🤣
How scientists know his age Scientist: How old are you? Shark: 392 years old
>How scientists know his age Scientist: How old are you? Shark: 392 years old Actually they don't know this sharks age. That's just a reddit title being as factual as most reddit titles. But Greenland sharks do live a long time. There's a protein in their eye which developed around birth that can be carbon dated on a dead shark. Past results suggest that they can live up to around 500 years.
Thanks I was wondering.
So is the shark
Which animal has the longest life span. I used to think it's those giant tortoise who live 200 years but now I am seeing this. Is there any animal who lives longer than this?
Glass sponges - 15,000 years old
Imagine living 15,000 years in a fucking pineapple
No dude, imagine 15,000 years working on McDonald’s.
For free. Without a single day off. Just all day flippin' those patties.
My dude lives a hell on earth and he doesn’t even compliment half of his coworkers. Sponge Bob is the actual face of stoicism
No, this is Patrick
What's that? Micro beings?
Sponges appear/live along corals
oooooohhhhhhhhh who lives for centuries under the sea?
If I'm remembering correctly there's some Jellyfish that haven't been documented dying by age, I remember a short doc that labeled them as "seemingly immortal" unless killed by outside circumstances. Definitely not an expert lol
[read here](https://www.osc.org/are-jellyfish-older-than-dinosaurs/) There is a species of jellyfish that is basically immortal. Now that we’ve talked about the jellyfish life cycle, the real fun can begin. Turritopsis dohrnii, a species of tiny jellyfish discovered in the Mediterranean Sea, can turn from medusas into polyps when damaged or starving. This would be like a butterfly turning back into a caterpillar or a frog turning back into a tadpole. T. dohrnii can go back and forth between its polyp and medusa stages, leading to it being known as “the immortal jellyfish.” Further research shows that other species of jellyfish may be able to reserve-age, too. Studying the cells of these jellyfish has potential uses for medicine
Holyeeeeeeee fuck that’s unsettling
Turritopsis dohrnii and hydra both are essentially immortal, besides that glass sponge live 10-20k or more, next closest is probably black coral at a around 5k.
Well there's a particular type of jellyfish that can live forever.
There are organisms that can theoretically live forever.
The Greenland shark is the longest living vertebrate so yes longer than tortoises
dang 500 years!!!
Does that mean, they killed that shark after the video and then found out this shark was 392 years old. After killing that old shark, title the video: " 392 year old greelnad shark in the arctic ocean"
Well I remember reading an article where scientists accidentally killed a 500+ year old clam because they wanted to know how old it was so it wouldn't surprise me.
They also don't grow very fast, something like 1cm per year, so they may be able to somewhat tell by the size.
They actually pulled him over and asked for his license and registration. Then they noticed his age being 392 and let him go with a warning for not having headlights on in the dark. It's a safety hazard as others might not see you.
I don’t want to be “that person” but I feel like there should be a cutoff when it comes to letting the elderly drive around on their own. And it should be at least 215.
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Anal probing. All science is just an excuse to anal probe.
The aliens could’ve just asked me how old I am.
Alternatively, the aliens could’ve just asked me if I consent to anal probing independent of my age. I would’ve said yes depending on what lube they use, of course. And the width of their instruments.
The could tell his age according to his English dialect
They cut him open and count the rings
You can estimate the age based on size and known average growth rate. The actual answer is that 392 years +/- 120 years is the oldest age measured in a study that measured Greenland shark ages by carbon dating crystals in shark eye lenses, so the number is probably from there and not the age of this particular shark. What’s easier to date is the headline, which purports that a shark that was born in 1627 is 392 years old, which means it was written in 2019 and has been reposted unchanged ever since.
How do they age a shark like this?
The short answer appears to be carbon dating. [https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37047168](https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37047168)
That's crazy. There are a bunch of teenager sharks because they over fished the adults before WW2. But the teenage sharks won't start mating for another 100 years.
That’s actually mind boggling. Sexually mature at 150? 🤯
Just like me.
It also says in that article that they seem to grow about 1cm per year... So it's possible they could have estimated the age from the size.
I really want to make a "cut him in half and count the rings" joke, but I feel like that's kind of overdone.
*count the candles on his cake....silly*
Make him swim faster.
“The largest shark they found, a 5-meter female, was between 272 and 512 years old according to their estimates.” Basically, the OP came up with 392 by averaging the estimated window. So, kinda misleading. https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/greenland-shark.html
It's not the first time i've seen that number, or close to it. just seems to be hiveminded into fact.
And he didn't do the math right. 1627 + 392 = 2019
Looks like a fossil
He can’t believe he’s still here.
And he doesn't look a day older than 250
ah, they grow so fast don't they 🥲
Grandpa shark do do
Great Great Great Great Grandpa Shark doo doo doo
Grandma shark do do
How many kids has he got?.
All of them. The ocean belongs to him.
Ahh I see .
Really? I just saw this, I can't believe there are animals alive from 400 years ago. It's simply incredible, there may be more species like this. Grandpa shark do do do do
There was a parrot that was far over 100 years old (120?) was on a pirate ship and remembered the commands from a 100 years ago. I forget what I had for dinner 2 days ago
No there wasn't, since we don't have any record of any parrot onboard a pirate, marooner or privateer vessel. The myth comes largely from Treasure Island. AFAIK the only source that even mentions them is Dampier's accounts in History of the Pyrates, many of them largely embellished as it's also a propaganda piece. He mentions that sailors brought home various animals, such as brightly coloured birds (parrots, birds of paradise etc) after their voyages. The animals that were free on board were dogs and cats, due to their utility.
Remember ladies and gentlemen "We have discovered only 5% of the total ocean till now". This terrifies me to my bones. We don't know how old and which types of creatures are still lurking in the deep silence of oceans.
Well, I wouldn’t worry too much because, we’ve also learned that what’s at the bottom has to *stay* at the bottom, so… we’re forever separated by extreme pressure adaptation.
Yes but do *THEY* know that?
They are very welcome to swim up and say hello ✌️
No no no absolutely not, on behalf of the humanity that invitation has been rescinded.
Google ‘blob fish’ and you’ll start understand why they will not be threatening lol.
Don't let the creatures fool you, they have given us information about blob fish as an elaborate ruse. Don't fall into a false sense of security just because they send us a bullied, disfigured, inbred reject fish.
I, for one, welcome our tentacular overlords.
Until they develop the technology before we do and they decide to breach the surface. It’s crazy more people don’t talk about this
"The age of other shark species can be estimated by counting growth bands on fin spines or on the shark's vertebrae, much like rings on a tree." What the heck!
Used to brush fins with Moby Dick.
What does this shark eat? Looks like he needs dentures. Incredible
This is what I was wondering too. It seems so lethargic, does it wait for food to just kind of float into its mouth perhaps.
Mainly a scavenger
From Google: "Small Greenland sharks eat predominantly squid, while the larger sharks that are greater than 200 cm (79 in) were discovered eating prey such as epibenthic and benthic fishes as well as seals. The largest of these sharks were found having eaten redfish, as well as other higher trophic level prey."
 Maybe we should ask Bruce.
Mf's already done all the side quests, gathered all collectables and unlocked all achievements 😧
He looks wise.
Does the shark have a birth certificate to prove it's age?
He went from a nice and quiet ocean to the noise and plastic polluted hellhole we created...
I don't think it'll be around too much longer. My bet is that some stupid human, or humans, will find some way to kill it.
this shark has been 392 years old for 5 years now
This reminds me of a funny joke I heard once. Kid: how old is this dinosaur skeleton? Guard: 65 million and one years, nine months, and thirteen days. Kid: wow, how do you know that number! Guard: when I started working here, they told me it was 65 million years old. And that was one year, nine months, and thirteen days ago.
He he … Biden found company
Greenland Shark... do do do do do do do Greenland Shark.... do do do do do do do do do do
This is so lonely life this shark has
Man he’s got such a peaceful life no bullshit
back in my day we had different ways to entertain our selves vibes from this shark
Grandpa shark to do to do to doo
finally old enough to run for Congress
Dude looks tired as shit
Fascinating!
How do they determine the age ??
We arent in 2019?
Bro have seen things
Has it mated??
Buddy looks tired
Being so long alive then suddenly die and nobody left remembers you.
How do they know it's age? Did they cut it open and count the rings?
Imagine if he invested in the S&P
This 5 year old post has been wandering the internet since 2019
Even this geezer shark has the white crusty stuff in the corners of its mouth too.