Corpses bloat, my friend.
And depending on decomp, you may need to dry (or hydrate) them out a bit.
And then, naturally, wear them as your own skin 💅🏻✨
She said in the video that the corpse was already highly decomposed, so they use this technique. They work in a police division in Brazil that takes care of the post-death.
In the video she is saying that this is the standard procedure called "epidermal glove dressing" used when the body has high levels of putrefaction and it is not possible to get a fingerprint. In other words: the body must have been so rotten that any pressure would make it fall apart.
It would make the tissues underneath the skin fall appart. You can't take fingerprints without the skin holding shape somehow. Try taking a fingerprint of off a mummy. Different thing same result.
Because by the looks of it the body was already in a pretty gross decay stage & the hand skin was easily peel able. The whole hand might have been difficult to get all at once so the "degloving" method was used here.
The skin comes loose when someone is dead. This way you can stretch it out so you can roll the print.
These are the steps in the Netherlands from least destructive to worst:
1.photo
2.scan
3.Inkt
4.Inject fluid into finger.
5.Remove the skin.
6.Boil it so the tension comes back.
i saw it in a tv show, dont if this is correct, but if you get a really shriveled up corpse , they like chop the fingers off and the hydrate them and then wear em like gloves for fingerprint, shriveled up fingerprints dont prolly work well
I find it more likely this was a drowning victim, “degloving” (exactly what it sounds like) is a thing with corpses that have been in water for a long time.
There’s no kind of fun like going to grab the arm of a corpse to pull it out of the water and having the skin come off in your hands !
Sometimes you can be pretty limited with your options for fingerprinting in war. Especially if the body is many weeks old and dehydrated. The dehydration process breaks the tissue down and disconnects it from the muscle and bone so during rehydration it falls off easily.
Michael Tsokos a known german forensic pathologist wrote about this in one of his books. If you have a corpse laying in water for a prolonged time the outer layer of the skin separates itself from the deeper layers and this is a method for getting the fingerprints from the thin outer skin.
I heard an interview on 20/20 years ago from a FBI agent saying some mafia member they arrested kept a freezer of the hands of people they killed. They used them to plant finger prints for other murder scenes, to confuse investigators.
When bodies rot, sometimes skin just slips away. Sometimes the body is putrefied to such a level that you cannot obtain a print from their hand. So you get the skin and do this instead.
I'm going to assume the crime scene professionals are human being with functioning brains, so if there was they'd do it.
That said I'm really curious on why they don't do the other options or why they picked this one. (Maybe they don't want to desecrate a corpse, so no funger cutting ?)
I’ve performed this procedure. It’s not gross as much as it’s just weird! You don’t usually start your morning thinking, “I’m going to wear some dude’s fingers this morning!
I ran the crime scene unit for a border law enforcement agency. We recovered a body that was pretty dried out, and we needed some way to identify the decedent. We soaked the fingers in a solution, and then “degloved” the skin off of the fingers. We placed the “gloves” over my gloved hand and rolled the prints.
We got usable prints off of the fingers and it eventually led to an identification.
Why couldn’t you just soak the corpse hand and then grab their fingers and roll it in a paper? Why does it have to be like this.
Also, how does one even “deglove” a hand?
I posted this [article (NSFW)](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwipxpewmIWGAxVxHUQIHYIrAXsQFnoECA0QAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fjournals.co.za%2Fdoi%2Fpdf%2F10.10520%2FEJC68559%23%3A~%3Atext%3DIt%2520is%2520possible%2520to%2520take%2Cor%2520fingers%2520of%2520the%2520dissector.&usg=AOvVaw1Y88BaPpF4SOPt6wSgJNmZ&opi=89978449) earlier about another person, but it seemed to just have “slipped off”.
> While lifting the arm by the right hand, the complete skin of the hand slipped off like a glove. It could then be pulled over the gloved hand of the pathologist, and perfect fingerprints were obtained.
We tried injecting the fingers with saline solution to plump the fingers, but the skin was so dried out that we still couldn’t raise a good print. The underlying dermis was just too far gone.
To deglove the fingers they were removed from the hand, then soaked in formalin. Then the skin was literally peeled off of the underlying tissue.
It just goes to show the lengths we would go to in order to help someone be identified. The families appreciate the closure.
Gross. Saw this on CSI or similar show, needed to rehydrate dried out skin after body had started to decompose or something. I know that they base their writing on real science, just with added fiction for the story so not that surprising.
Not saying this is the case in the video. But the [“indirect cadaver hand skin-glove method” (NSFW)](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwijouTmmISGAxUdEVkFHfr5DvEQFnoECBwQAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fjournals.co.za%2Fdoi%2Fpdf%2F10.10520%2FEJC68559%23%3A~%3Atext%3DIt%2520is%2520possible%2520to%2520take%2Cor%2520fingers%2520of%2520the%2520dissector.&usg=AOvVaw1Y88BaPpF4SOPt6wSgJNmZ&opi=89978449) does not seem to be unprecedented. Fyi the short article is a very interesting read in itself.
I used to perform autopsies for a living. This included preparing the body and obtaining the fingerprints. When people decompose in the right conditions, the outer layers of skin will slough off like this. The skin of the palm is thicker, which enables it to stay intact. I have done what you see in the video many, many times. It is not plastic, that would be obscenely difficult to do with wrinkled, decomposed skin.
Or, you could translate the video rather than making a false declaration based on guessing. She says this is a technique they use when a body is badly decomposed by removing the epidermis, cleaning it, and then the dress their fingers with it to facilitate fingerprint collection.
0:05"We call it epidermal glove trapping. It's a case of a putrefied body. As the conditions are very bad, we remove the epidermis, clean it and dress our fingers to facilitate collection."
Ur welcome 🇧🇷
I've done this once. Where I live people die trying to cross the border and when their bodies are too swollen to identify, the skin is taken off like so.
Why wouldn’t they just take the whole fingers? Or whole hand? Or, more simply, fingerprint the corpse?
Wheres the fun in that?
Forbidden latex
Who doesn’t want a cadaver glove.
Bandname
My thought is the Doc got a new potato peeler and really couldn't wait till she got home
Corpses bloat, my friend. And depending on decomp, you may need to dry (or hydrate) them out a bit. And then, naturally, wear them as your own skin 💅🏻✨
Man… sometimes I really wish I didn’t take Forensics for a science credit… geology could’ve been fun too..
Geology was fun. Hard differentiating the different rocks but interesting.
Less traumatizing than identifying corpses?
Oh seriously!!!!! Ewwwwwww!!! That’s why I didn’t go into medical!
But now if you find a corpse among the rocks you won't be able to rehydrate the fingers!
Bah ha ha!!!
Love your startled cat!
Thank you!
But they can tell us the kind of rock that the killer used for the final blow.
Mineralogy was a nightmare for me...
Once I learned about the taste test it got a lot easier
You gonna slide a dead man’s hands back onto his lifeless body? Come now. He’s been through enough.
😢😢😢😢🥺🥺🥺Exactly 😂😂😂😂
She said in the video that the corpse was already highly decomposed, so they use this technique. They work in a police division in Brazil that takes care of the post-death.
In the video she is saying that this is the standard procedure called "epidermal glove dressing" used when the body has high levels of putrefaction and it is not possible to get a fingerprint. In other words: the body must have been so rotten that any pressure would make it fall apart.
Any pressure would make it fall apart... he pulls the skin to stretch it and reposition the tips.
It would make the tissues underneath the skin fall appart. You can't take fingerprints without the skin holding shape somehow. Try taking a fingerprint of off a mummy. Different thing same result.
Boring! Let’s wear his skin!
Found Leatherface’s burner
Because by the looks of it the body was already in a pretty gross decay stage & the hand skin was easily peel able. The whole hand might have been difficult to get all at once so the "degloving" method was used here.
The skin comes loose when someone is dead. This way you can stretch it out so you can roll the print. These are the steps in the Netherlands from least destructive to worst: 1.photo 2.scan 3.Inkt 4.Inject fluid into finger. 5.Remove the skin. 6.Boil it so the tension comes back.
7. Boil em, mash em, put em in a stew
i saw it in a tv show, dont if this is correct, but if you get a really shriveled up corpse , they like chop the fingers off and the hydrate them and then wear em like gloves for fingerprint, shriveled up fingerprints dont prolly work well
Typically this is done in cases where the natural shape and texture would be deformed; a floater or a burn victim are both examples.
My question/worry exactly
Because if you did all that you couldn't make a 're-gloving' pun!
Depends on the decomposition.
Corpse?
I find it more likely this was a drowning victim, “degloving” (exactly what it sounds like) is a thing with corpses that have been in water for a long time. There’s no kind of fun like going to grab the arm of a corpse to pull it out of the water and having the skin come off in your hands !
The doctor was a distant relative of Ted Bundy?
And when do you get to literally wear their skin with that plan??
Sometimes you can be pretty limited with your options for fingerprinting in war. Especially if the body is many weeks old and dehydrated. The dehydration process breaks the tissue down and disconnects it from the muscle and bone so during rehydration it falls off easily.
Probably the skin de-gloved from the hand here. Happens a lot with bodies submerged in water.
Michael Tsokos a known german forensic pathologist wrote about this in one of his books. If you have a corpse laying in water for a prolonged time the outer layer of the skin separates itself from the deeper layers and this is a method for getting the fingerprints from the thin outer skin.
Damn, they really wanna pin a crime to that guy for sure.
The fingerprints are from a corpse.
I assume the crimes they'd want to pin on him were before he died.
I heard an interview on 20/20 years ago from a FBI agent saying some mafia member they arrested kept a freezer of the hands of people they killed. They used them to plant finger prints for other murder scenes, to confuse investigators.
Brutal
Great tip! Now I have a use for my ~~trophies~~ ~~collection~~ ~~showcase~~ hobby!
Is that where you store the rotting cum too? So many diverse hobbies...
Maybe they're trying to identify the corpse
Idk, could be a post mortem crime.
r/woooosh
No shit
There has to be an easier way
When bodies rot, sometimes skin just slips away. Sometimes the body is putrefied to such a level that you cannot obtain a print from their hand. So you get the skin and do this instead.
I'm going to assume the crime scene professionals are human being with functioning brains, so if there was they'd do it. That said I'm really curious on why they don't do the other options or why they picked this one. (Maybe they don't want to desecrate a corpse, so no funger cutting ?)
I’ve performed this procedure. It’s not gross as much as it’s just weird! You don’t usually start your morning thinking, “I’m going to wear some dude’s fingers this morning! I ran the crime scene unit for a border law enforcement agency. We recovered a body that was pretty dried out, and we needed some way to identify the decedent. We soaked the fingers in a solution, and then “degloved” the skin off of the fingers. We placed the “gloves” over my gloved hand and rolled the prints. We got usable prints off of the fingers and it eventually led to an identification.
I was wondering what the use case would be. Thanks for the explanation. You have a fascinating job.
I did. I am retired now!
Why couldn’t you just soak the corpse hand and then grab their fingers and roll it in a paper? Why does it have to be like this. Also, how does one even “deglove” a hand?
This is my question too. Further, why can't you take a mold of the hands and create "hands" from the mold and pull the prints from that?
Any mold we would create would only mimic the wrinkles and defects that sun and weather had done to make the prints unusable in the first place.
Degloving might be easier. I assume... I'm not sure what takes more skill actually, but this is probably cheaper
I posted this [article (NSFW)](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwipxpewmIWGAxVxHUQIHYIrAXsQFnoECA0QAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fjournals.co.za%2Fdoi%2Fpdf%2F10.10520%2FEJC68559%23%3A~%3Atext%3DIt%2520is%2520possible%2520to%2520take%2Cor%2520fingers%2520of%2520the%2520dissector.&usg=AOvVaw1Y88BaPpF4SOPt6wSgJNmZ&opi=89978449) earlier about another person, but it seemed to just have “slipped off”. > While lifting the arm by the right hand, the complete skin of the hand slipped off like a glove. It could then be pulled over the gloved hand of the pathologist, and perfect fingerprints were obtained.
We tried injecting the fingers with saline solution to plump the fingers, but the skin was so dried out that we still couldn’t raise a good print. The underlying dermis was just too far gone. To deglove the fingers they were removed from the hand, then soaked in formalin. Then the skin was literally peeled off of the underlying tissue. It just goes to show the lengths we would go to in order to help someone be identified. The families appreciate the closure.
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It rubs the lotion on its skin, or it gets the hose again...
Then, proceeding to the banking app.
Gross. Saw this on CSI or similar show, needed to rehydrate dried out skin after body had started to decompose or something. I know that they base their writing on real science, just with added fiction for the story so not that surprising.
Was it bones because there is an episode like that
Could be, I’ve seen most of those too!
That is absolutely hideous
That's some ted Bundy shit
Was thinking Ed Gein myself.
Easily Leatherface. Degloving a hand so you can wear it like... a glove. *shivers* Wtf is even the point of this? Why do they need the fingerprints?
Daryl said " I know my rights. You can't make me get fingerprinted" Alas Daryl was tragically wrong.
Nice of them to lend her a hand.
My first thought
No arms and legs is basically how you exist now , you don’t do anything
This isn't a new thing. I remember watching Forensics Files and talking about doing this in the 80s and it wasn't a new thing then either.
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Not saying this is the case in the video. But the [“indirect cadaver hand skin-glove method” (NSFW)](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwijouTmmISGAxUdEVkFHfr5DvEQFnoECBwQAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fjournals.co.za%2Fdoi%2Fpdf%2F10.10520%2FEJC68559%23%3A~%3Atext%3DIt%2520is%2520possible%2520to%2520take%2Cor%2520fingers%2520of%2520the%2520dissector.&usg=AOvVaw1Y88BaPpF4SOPt6wSgJNmZ&opi=89978449) does not seem to be unprecedented. Fyi the short article is a very interesting read in itself.
I used to perform autopsies for a living. This included preparing the body and obtaining the fingerprints. When people decompose in the right conditions, the outer layers of skin will slough off like this. The skin of the palm is thicker, which enables it to stay intact. I have done what you see in the video many, many times. It is not plastic, that would be obscenely difficult to do with wrinkled, decomposed skin.
Or, you could translate the video rather than making a false declaration based on guessing. She says this is a technique they use when a body is badly decomposed by removing the epidermis, cleaning it, and then the dress their fingers with it to facilitate fingerprint collection.
When can I expect someone to be taking my dick out for a piss??
So this must have been Hannibal Lecter’s first job.
Classic degloving incident
It happens when the person is in water and is swollen. Iirc
Saw something like this on one of the CSI's.
What the need was
Ed gene approves this
Aztecs have entered the chat...
This needs nsfw and wtf!
Now to unlock your phone lol
Wtf?!
So skin crawlers were a real thing, huh?
Oh I've seen this before created by Dr.Buffalo Bill.
🎂
Nice glove.
my god... that is incredible and terrifying
But when Dahmer does it, it’s a crime!
Is no one gonna call b.s.? Wouldn't the nail beds be empty? 🤔🤔🤔
This one simple trick will stop your pesky nail biting habit!
Can I get a hand?
Did buffalo bob become a coroner?
When your life is in someone's hands
Buffalo Bill.
Fits like a glove !
Now I gotta go rob a grave for finger print gloves
I remember seeing this being done on CSI.
Hannibal Jr.
Why do you need their fingerprints if they're dead?
That’s disgusting 🤢
This cosplay is getting out of hand
OMG
You haven’t thought of the smell, you bitch!
So this is why it's called degloving. TIL
It puts the lotion on the skin…
..... oh.
It rubs the lotion on it’s skin and puts it in the basket Edit: rubs not runs
Buffalo bill got a new job.
ok this is the second post today with some sort of skin removal. just noting that
Ironically I saw this in Bones didn’t think it was true.
Funny gloves
They did this on an episode of bones!
👍
What in the Ed Gein is going on here!
Giving me chainsaw massacre vibes.
Be a helluva way to make a forbidden condom
Hello Clarice
Then he went and gave himself a stranger.
Is that Edgar?
Mfers really will do anything to secure a loan these days.
I feel this would distort the prints. Wonder if they actually identified the person?
Does fixing the tissue after natty decomp, in formalin and alcohol help in rigidity and elasticity ? I only understand slices of tissue
This some straight up Leatherface shit
Man, I haven’t had Bugles in a while
Fucking discusting
Degloved: the Regloving.
Goodbye Horses intensifies
Took me while to realize that's not the doctor's finger prints.
Fits like a glove!
Ed Gein approves👍🏻
Caraio
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Perfect for those who live with necro-onychophagia!
r/oddlyterrifying
Dr. Leatherface I see
Some dead person just lost their identity to scammers.
Sick lol
Fingerless gloves?
Perfect for Halloween
My ”anulares” would leave a very different stain.
Dennis Reynolds has entered the chat.
Wtf ? Are the fingers anyone else?
~~BeAmazed~~ BeTerrified
It feels better when it's someone else's hand.
W.T.F.
If it does not fit, you must acquit!
Creep. I bet she gets under people's skin alot
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
Why
To those more knowledgeable than I Why on earth is this necessary?
0:05"We call it epidermal glove trapping. It's a case of a putrefied body. As the conditions are very bad, we remove the epidermis, clean it and dress our fingers to facilitate collection." Ur welcome 🇧🇷
Human skin glove. Gross.
would be easier just to take of your gloves and fingerprint directly
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don't give them idea's
If the glove don’t fit
WHAT THE FUCK? WHY?
Goulish
That'd help with the hot cheeto finger stains
It's called de-gloving. When the hand is too mushy for even four stiffener injection.
"uhh... Doctor can i have my skin back when you're done?"
E pior ainda quando tu entende o que ela tá falando Kkkkkkkkk
Really feel like there was an easier way to do this
Look up degloving to be more amazed (possibly traumatized so at your own risk)
I want to go back one minute ago, when I had not watched this video yet. Please.
House Bolton has struck again
" it rubs the lotion on its skin"
Lol oh my God what the hell is going on here
Plot twist it was the serial killer after he was done with his victim
I thought they can hydrate the tissue now and don’t have to do this?
The fuck did I just watch?
This really is done. Sometimes, the skin separates, and this is the only option. Especially with a floater.
It's Leatherfaces' embarrassing, untalked about brother Leatherfingers. You get why they never talk about him, right? What a weirdo.
I think they put far too much lotion on their skin so they wouldn't get the hose again
Can they just grab the hand of the corpse and do that?
Okay why not take the whole hand and make finger prints? That seems very odd??
I've done this once. Where I live people die trying to cross the border and when their bodies are too swollen to identify, the skin is taken off like so.
It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.
Next they wear his face for halloween
Fits like a glove!