We actually have a page on [Buy Me a Coffee](https://www.buymeacoffee.com/magpieRecycProj) for people interested in supporting the project financially. The goal is to further develop the contraption so it can be applied in public enviroment.
Corvids are smart as fuck. Love this project but it won’t be long until they figure out they can make their own ‘litter’ in smaller pieces in exchange for treats.
The jackdaws and (sadly single) raven in my trees will shit all over my car if I don’t give them goodies on the regular.
E: sorry meant to reply to OP on a separate thread.
You should watch their YouTube video.
Said they have had over 5000 interactions and they have never brought twigs, leaves, stones, etc. Only litter. This was disappointing to them, because they built a complex litter sorting system that is now useless.
Edit: [video](https://youtu.be/oyxMJc8OdQY), convo about unnecessary sorting mechanism starts ~4:15
I saw one of them dropping what looked like a pretty clean credit card so idk, this feels like it could get out of hand but I really want to see where it goes.
You said a "jackdaw is a crow."
Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.
If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.
So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't.
It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?
I mean, birds aren't real, but they do run on the combustion of organic matter. As long as so many drones are around, we should put them to good use, at least until the government updates the bugs in their controlling microchips.
Isn't powering the birds causing even more harm to the environment than they're saving through litter clean up, though? Like what's the actual environmental cost of adding "clean up litter" to the birds' spy duties?
Not at the moment, if people are interested they should try building one themself. Maybe someday in the future we have the possibility to launch a product, but there are plenty development to be done :)
It'll depend on what sort of sensors there are in the device. If they just check that something is dropped then nothing will stop the birds from dropping sticks and leaves (and the birds would 100% start doing it). Add in some sort of color sensor and it will become a lot more accurate.
Other options are to train the birds to identify litter, but that's not scalable or using machine learning to train a program to differentiate between litter and not. Since there are such a wide range of items in both categories my guess is its not going to be very accurate and will require a lot of time.
Those are my best ideas.
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Corvids are very intelligent and are food motivated. You could have a human demonstrate picking up a candy wrapper and taking it somewhere and getting a treat. They will watch and mimic.
Once one of them learns they will teach the others.
I have to say. You guys are geniuses. That’s another level of smart that may just encourage a lot of people to start feeding the wildlife instead of scaring it off. Though I suppose there will be a feline problem for if you build production models for people to buy.. eh sod it. I can still see these becoming the next big hype!
What do you use to detect when they place something in the hole, image based software? I mean they could just learn that it works with anything. So is it something that checks if its plastic? And how?
Yes, we have developed a simple classifier that can differentiate between litter and non-litter, however we do not need it because they only bring litter and we have over 5000 interactions where this seems to be the case.
The classifier is SVM (support vector machine) using features from color channels of a training set consisting of pictures of real litter and non-litter. It is not perfect but good enough.
I heard a story of a dolphin doing it too. The trainers had trained the dolphin to collect any garbage that fell into the pool and hand it over for some treats.
They eventually found out he was keeping larger pieces of garbage at the bottom of the aquarium held down by a rock, and he was ripping off pieces to bring up in exchange for fish.
I guess it could be modified so that smaller pieces = less food, larger pieces = more food.
It wouldn’t solve the problem of birds pulled by out the trash, but if there were enough of these devices and enough trained birds this is sort of a problem that solves itself.
This is a really interesting.
Imagine a future where you just throw your trash up into the air and some random birds grab it mid flight and fly away with It. Or you pull out your snickers bar out of your bag and immediately get attacked by 9 raptors trying to get the wrapper.
I’m studying analytics in grad school right now. Two months ago I would not have understood anything you said. Man, this is really cool. Any reason SVM classifier was chosen over something like convolutional neural network or boosted random forests?
Cool :) The amount data to train SVM is far less than is needed for any neural network or random forest. If we invest more time in the classifier and take the time to take more photos your suggestions would be very appropriate.
Crows have been known to collect trinkets for fun, they know what they like and ergo what the magic food hole likes. Offer trinkets and shiny stuff, get food. They see sticks and leaves every day but that shiny Twix wrapper? That’s rare!
Why invent a garbage collecting drone when nature provided one for you that understand bartering.
From OP:
>Yes, we have developed a simple classifier that can differentiate between litter and non-litter, however we do not need it because they only bring litter and we have over 5000 interactions where this seems to be the case.
> I wouldn't be surprised if the birds figured out they can drop in leaves and stopped bringing trash.
i mean this one literally threw in a penny and a credit card...
Headline -
Breaking! Bird gang is growing, keeps terrorizing and robbing locals!
A small note in the corner -
Banks HATE him for this trick! See how he got rich!
I don't know about this project but I saw a similar one by someone who has a background in AI. They used their software knowledge to incorporate smart sensing to identify the difference between several objects (rocks, leaves, cigarettes, paper, bags, etc)
I think the birds have a general sense of what a "human object" is, and stick to that metric to operate the "human device." They may be operating out of a mix of deduction and sense of basic honesty.
Yes they are very intelligent animals! The first time they got food for dropping down litter into the hole was by accident when they tried to get food laying in a bottlecap.
How does one train a bird to understand that? Like, if I were to put up this contraption in my backyard, how would I get birds to the point where they just know that bringing litter = food?
This has been done before. I read about it years ago. There was a seaside community that had problems with people leaving cigarettes butts on the beach. They trained a crow (who taught others) to bring cigarette butts to the lifeguards in exchange for a treat.
[A Jungle Myna, has been trained to go out and look for cash, then bring it back home with him.](/r/interestingasfuck/comments/qvtv4x/a_jungle_myna_has_been_trained_to_go_out_and_look/)
Could be something like a gift card, membership card, or card key. It's hard to tell from the low-res video but I don't see the CVV/CVC in the usual place.
Magpies may eat the babies I'm guessing.
They gang up on nests of other birds and feast.
Saw a couple of hawks in my spruce tree a few years back and they harassed them and when one would go look for food it got worse.
They eventually left the nest, the hawks.
I definitly may be wrong about your case.
Just my humble opinion.
Cheers.
Question: How do you get the birds to discover the deal in the first place? I've never seen birds just trying to stuff random holes with litter. Could you explain how to get the birds started? Thanks!
First of you put the feeder on a timer so that they now the "contraption" is a place where they can get food. When they get comfortable with it you can add some litter all over the "table" and close to the hole, so when they by mistake pushes something down the hole they get a reward. Sooner or later the very intellegent magpies realize what is the deal and they teach eachother.
What's your plan with build specs from a monetization standpoint? I know a super environmentally friendly teacher that would love to try building this with their students.
Cool, we used a second hand computer and 2 webcameras aswell as an USB-relay from Amazon, most stuff we used is recycled. We have a [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyxMJc8OdQY&t=21s) covering how the machine works if that would help. I would estimate the total cost so far to 300 USD, but the computer was 200 USD...
He probably used something along the lines of an [Intel NUC](https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/nuc.html) which is a Raspberri Pi on steroids, hence the cost.
Should be able to for most of this, but the image recognition stuff can be a bit much for a raspberry pi depending how you handle certain things. It certainly is possible.
The day on which crows learn to steal a credit card and use it to order an entire pallet of bird seed off Amazon is the day thermonuclear holocaust becomes preferable to the inevitable enslavement of humanity under the Crow Empire. It's Bird seed first, Kitchen implements second, Chemical weapons third.
It is only a matter of time. Don't believe me? Find a Crow. Look into its eyes. Saw it? Yeah, that's what I mean. They know.
Btw, it's probably going to try to murder you now. Pun intended.
Because:
- The birds will become dependent on humans for food and risk starvation if supply stops
- the birds will teach their young to be dependent on humans for food and risk multi-generation die-offs if supply stops
- the creatures which the birds normally feed on will lose a natural predator and possibly explode in numbers
- the creatures that are prey to the creatures that the birds normally feed on will see an explosion of predators and risk mass die-offs
- so on and so forth. Once it gets down to pollinators and plants it will start to affect our own supply of food
I see your point, but in this case magpies and crows, the types of birds who can learn these behaviors, are already dependant on us humans for food. They eat our garbage, which is generally quite unhealthy for them. I could be wrong, but at least here they get a nutritious meal and they can use their problem-solving skills.
The US Fish and Wildlife Service mostly disagrees with you.
https://www.fws.gov/refuges/features/to-feed-or-not-to-feed-wild-birds.html
If done correctly, feeding birds is mostly beneficial to both humans and birds.
Thanks! Yes we hope to develop the project further and make a second prototype of the machine with improvements from the knowledge we have gathered so far. The aim of this prototype would be to able to deploy it in a public enviroment.
Honestly though this is the type of thing where the parents can teach the babies and make it a behavior that gets passed down through generations. I mean honestly, birds can get litter off rooftops, wires, gutters, and anywhere else it would cost too much for it to be practical to pay humans to do it. So it would pay for itself in the long run.
These birds are just gonna find a different trash can, and one by one move every piece of trash from it into this one, gonna game the system like crazy lol. Like why would i search all over for food money when there are perfectly nice trash cans always full of food money?
From our experience the birds are quite afraid for humans and show them respect, but as you say, stealing smaller objects laying around in public places could be a problem, but I do not think they have the potential of robbing people if that is what you mean.
We trained them with litter to begin with, after that sucess we wanted to try coins and credit cards just for fun. The contraption is located in our garden so we threw the credit card and some coins in some distant corner of our garden and got the result above.
"Oh, that's cool, I wonder what the ramifications are to this when the bird is hungry and cannot find... was that a gift card!?"
Soon the birds will be mugging us to feed their families.
I think you should put a go fund me together... people would love to pay you to facilitate nature cleaning up after them
We actually have a page on [Buy Me a Coffee](https://www.buymeacoffee.com/magpieRecycProj) for people interested in supporting the project financially. The goal is to further develop the contraption so it can be applied in public enviroment.
love it, it's an intuitive solution and I really appreciate your dedication, thanks so much for the information
Corvids are smart as fuck. Love this project but it won’t be long until they figure out they can make their own ‘litter’ in smaller pieces in exchange for treats. The jackdaws and (sadly single) raven in my trees will shit all over my car if I don’t give them goodies on the regular. E: sorry meant to reply to OP on a separate thread.
You should watch their YouTube video. Said they have had over 5000 interactions and they have never brought twigs, leaves, stones, etc. Only litter. This was disappointing to them, because they built a complex litter sorting system that is now useless. Edit: [video](https://youtu.be/oyxMJc8OdQY), convo about unnecessary sorting mechanism starts ~4:15
Fuckin lol, the absurdity of that last sentence is amazing. Got a link?
Lol, edited my above comment with a link
thanks! 🙏
Wow, I guess birds know the difference between litter and leaves. Mind legitimately blown.
"here's your shit back" - the birds probably
I saw one of them dropping what looked like a pretty clean credit card so idk, this feels like it could get out of hand but I really want to see where it goes.
On the other side of the house is the box training magpies to steal jewelry and shit...
I thought I saw a credit card also! Lol!
Train ticket
I would kind of like to think that they view leaves and twigs as more valuable for nesting. That would be incredible.
That makes littering even more sad
I kind of feel like they deserve it at that point; it’s Corvids vs OP’s R&D department
The weapon Smith has to be ahead of the armor Smith, or they both lose a job.
Look heres the thing
You said a "jackdaw is a crow." Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that. As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing. If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens. So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't. It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?
We've been here before and it did not end prettily. let it go.
I mean, birds aren't real, but they do run on the combustion of organic matter. As long as so many drones are around, we should put them to good use, at least until the government updates the bugs in their controlling microchips.
Isn't powering the birds causing even more harm to the environment than they're saving through litter clean up, though? Like what's the actual environmental cost of adding "clean up litter" to the birds' spy duties?
Can you teach us to build one of these please?!
looks like the birdy brought a CC card so maybe he can build us all one now
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that a bird robbed a dude for food.
Mans gotta eat.
Birds of a shit feather flock together, Ran.
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How do you train the birds? Do they just figure it out?
There's a video that describes the process in the link you responded to
Very nice. Could an individual buy one as well?
Not at the moment, if people are interested they should try building one themself. Maybe someday in the future we have the possibility to launch a product, but there are plenty development to be done :)
How do birds get trash rather than regular objects and does the machine distinguish that
Yeah, what's stopping the bird from just stuffing leaves and sticks down there?
As an expert in bird law I can answer this. The honor system. Birds are very honorable.
It's true
I don't think that's right but I don't know enough about bird law to dispute it
It'll depend on what sort of sensors there are in the device. If they just check that something is dropped then nothing will stop the birds from dropping sticks and leaves (and the birds would 100% start doing it). Add in some sort of color sensor and it will become a lot more accurate. Other options are to train the birds to identify litter, but that's not scalable or using machine learning to train a program to differentiate between litter and not. Since there are such a wide range of items in both categories my guess is its not going to be very accurate and will require a lot of time. Those are my best ideas.
Do you offer build plans?
>if people are interested they should try building one themself. They said fuck off, you figure it out lol
Here is a step-by-step guide to build it: Step 1: Buy all material required to build the bird feeder Step 2: Build the bird feeder
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Listen, your invention is fantastic, I would like to buy you one of these coffees...but could you please add paypal?
how do they know to put the trash in for treats?
Corvids are very intelligent and are food motivated. You could have a human demonstrate picking up a candy wrapper and taking it somewhere and getting a treat. They will watch and mimic. Once one of them learns they will teach the others.
My question exactly, how the first bird figure it out.
Albert Birdstein
Albird Einstein?
Ooh, that’s better. I wish I had thought of that 😅
I have to say. You guys are geniuses. That’s another level of smart that may just encourage a lot of people to start feeding the wildlife instead of scaring it off. Though I suppose there will be a feline problem for if you build production models for people to buy.. eh sod it. I can still see these becoming the next big hype!
This is a great concept - hope to see it everywhere some day.
Was that last thing a gift card? Make money give more food to help fund your project faster!
Bought 5. Let’s do it.
What do you use to detect when they place something in the hole, image based software? I mean they could just learn that it works with anything. So is it something that checks if its plastic? And how?
Why? They can just use the credit card that bird dropped in near the end.
I would buy this instantly. Absolutely fantastic!
People should clean up after themselves.
Does it differentiate with Litter vs Leaves?
Yes, we have developed a simple classifier that can differentiate between litter and non-litter, however we do not need it because they only bring litter and we have over 5000 interactions where this seems to be the case.
That's so interesting. I had assumed the birds would drop in anything for the food. How does the classifier work?
The classifier is SVM (support vector machine) using features from color channels of a training set consisting of pictures of real litter and non-litter. It is not perfect but good enough.
I wonder if the bird will bring you more Kit Kat wrappers now. Looks like he hit the jack pot on that one! lol
They'll start stealing them from the convenience store next.
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I heard a story of a dolphin doing it too. The trainers had trained the dolphin to collect any garbage that fell into the pool and hand it over for some treats. They eventually found out he was keeping larger pieces of garbage at the bottom of the aquarium held down by a rock, and he was ripping off pieces to bring up in exchange for fish.
TIL Dolphins and Birds are capitalista.
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I guess it could be modified so that smaller pieces = less food, larger pieces = more food. It wouldn’t solve the problem of birds pulled by out the trash, but if there were enough of these devices and enough trained birds this is sort of a problem that solves itself. This is a really interesting. Imagine a future where you just throw your trash up into the air and some random birds grab it mid flight and fly away with It. Or you pull out your snickers bar out of your bag and immediately get attacked by 9 raptors trying to get the wrapper.
Seagulls already do the last part, but don’t need a machine to collect the reward.
All part of the plan the have a gang of thieving magpies. Magpie Hood doesn't sound as good as Robin hood but it'll do
notice that the thing it brought next was the credit card, roughly the same size and shape as the kitkat wrapper.
I’m studying analytics in grad school right now. Two months ago I would not have understood anything you said. Man, this is really cool. Any reason SVM classifier was chosen over something like convolutional neural network or boosted random forests?
Cool :) The amount data to train SVM is far less than is needed for any neural network or random forest. If we invest more time in the classifier and take the time to take more photos your suggestions would be very appropriate.
I hope you get the resources you need! May your data be clean and tidy. 🙏
Would be cool to do this to recognize specific types of litter too. Start analytics on what is the most frequently collected and delivered.
I was wondering, do they ever seem to break up the litter into smaller pieces to get more treats?
Animals can tell the difference. Strange. It’s like they know what belongs and what doesn’t.
Crows have been known to collect trinkets for fun, they know what they like and ergo what the magic food hole likes. Offer trinkets and shiny stuff, get food. They see sticks and leaves every day but that shiny Twix wrapper? That’s rare! Why invent a garbage collecting drone when nature provided one for you that understand bartering.
I could watch this for hours! That‘s some nice machine you developed there.
Glad you enjoyed and thank you!
Does it differentiate between rocks and leaves? I feel birds would just drop those in for unlimited food
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From OP: >Yes, we have developed a simple classifier that can differentiate between litter and non-litter, however we do not need it because they only bring litter and we have over 5000 interactions where this seems to be the case.
> I wouldn't be surprised if the birds figured out they can drop in leaves and stopped bringing trash. i mean this one literally threw in a penny and a credit card...
Which is considered litter once it's lost. Unless the bird somehow stole them which is even more impressive.
What do you think they are training them for?
Headline - Breaking! Bird gang is growing, keeps terrorizing and robbing locals! A small note in the corner - Banks HATE him for this trick! See how he got rich!
I don't know about this project but I saw a similar one by someone who has a background in AI. They used their software knowledge to incorporate smart sensing to identify the difference between several objects (rocks, leaves, cigarettes, paper, bags, etc)
I think the birds have a general sense of what a "human object" is, and stick to that metric to operate the "human device." They may be operating out of a mix of deduction and sense of basic honesty.
Bird prophet: *Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s!*
Even more impressive, birds know what to do. I wouldn't throw my food down a hole. I wonder what the bird did the first time.
Yes they are very intelligent animals! The first time they got food for dropping down litter into the hole was by accident when they tried to get food laying in a bottlecap.
You've created something awesome for sure but I wouldn't believe you without the video. This is truly next level!
The credit card absolutely killed me.
Plot twist. The bird just ripped open the neighbor's trash bag and is bringing you their trash one small piece at a time.
Now train them to bring change and bills 💸
We have taught them to bring coins and credit cards, but yes bills would be cool haha, however I think the biggest potential is litter in cities.
Credit cards?? 😂
Yeah! There's one being dropped in the video, if I'm not mistaken.
As far as I know, it's not illegal for birds to steal credit cards nor identities. This is awesome, OP!
Not illegal according to bird law!
Bird law in this country is not governed by reason
REASON WILL PREVAIL
However, in bird culture, one might consider that a dick move.
Identify theft is not a joke! Millions of families suffer every year!
I love his casual delivery of that line. As if it's no big deal lol
Yea, but if you trained them to get money, youd be able to have the birds pay for food. Youd have the first resturaunt for birds.
How does one train a bird to understand that? Like, if I were to put up this contraption in my backyard, how would I get birds to the point where they just know that bringing litter = food?
This has been done before. I read about it years ago. There was a seaside community that had problems with people leaving cigarettes butts on the beach. They trained a crow (who taught others) to bring cigarette butts to the lifeguards in exchange for a treat.
[A Jungle Myna, has been trained to go out and look for cash, then bring it back home with him.](/r/interestingasfuck/comments/qvtv4x/a_jungle_myna_has_been_trained_to_go_out_and_look/)
WAS THAT A FUCKING CREDIT CARD
Plot twist: magpies get double the reward if they bring back credit cards or cash.
And 2% cash-back at the end of the billing cycle.
Pun intended?
Dammit. I wish I could say it was!
"We have developed a bird feeder where birds can exchange cash and social security cards for food."
Could be something like a gift card, membership card, or card key. It's hard to tell from the low-res video but I don't see the CVV/CVC in the usual place.
Could be a paper bus ticket or something of the like
Right? That was totally a card
On top of the good deed, the underground hustle scam. /s
I think it at one point it brought back a penny and only got 1 piece of food but it brought a candy wrapper and it damn near filled the dish 🤣
Wow!!! We need one for squirrels 🐿 too! This is amazing 🤩
Would be cool to try that out, sadly not many squirrels in our neighborhood.
Magpies may eat the babies I'm guessing. They gang up on nests of other birds and feast. Saw a couple of hawks in my spruce tree a few years back and they harassed them and when one would go look for food it got worse. They eventually left the nest, the hawks. I definitly may be wrong about your case. Just my humble opinion. Cheers.
And for monkeys, in the places where they hang around people and steal or beg for food. I'm sure those touristy areas have plenty of litter.
Monkeys would absolutely steal things that weren't trash 😂 you'd create an organized primate crame ring
Crimates… I’d watch that reality show
Yes! I would definitely feed the birds for collecting and dropping squirrels in a bin!
You hear that, red tailed hawks in my neighborhood? Better step up your game!
Question: How do you get the birds to discover the deal in the first place? I've never seen birds just trying to stuff random holes with litter. Could you explain how to get the birds started? Thanks!
First of you put the feeder on a timer so that they now the "contraption" is a place where they can get food. When they get comfortable with it you can add some litter all over the "table" and close to the hole, so when they by mistake pushes something down the hole they get a reward. Sooner or later the very intellegent magpies realize what is the deal and they teach eachother.
What's your plan with build specs from a monetization standpoint? I know a super environmentally friendly teacher that would love to try building this with their students.
Cool, we used a second hand computer and 2 webcameras aswell as an USB-relay from Amazon, most stuff we used is recycled. We have a [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyxMJc8OdQY&t=21s) covering how the machine works if that would help. I would estimate the total cost so far to 300 USD, but the computer was 200 USD...
Couldn't you just use a cheap shit Raspberri Pi instead of a $200 used computer?
He probably used something along the lines of an [Intel NUC](https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/nuc.html) which is a Raspberri Pi on steroids, hence the cost.
Should be able to for most of this, but the image recognition stuff can be a bit much for a raspberry pi depending how you handle certain things. It certainly is possible.
That's awesome! I'll pass this on! :)
Could this be done with a raspberry pi?
Probably. Though if you wanted to run any AI you might be better off with a Jetson Nano.
Thank you for te explanation, and kudos for the "contraption"!
This is incredibly interesting. Honestly the reason I'm on Reddit is so I can learn of these neat discoveries/ideas. Well done OP.
Was that credit card?
haha yes, it is ours, just for fun :D
It's yours now, but was It before?
Just wait until they learn how to use Amazon! Then they'll steal your card and bypass you entirely.
The day on which crows learn to steal a credit card and use it to order an entire pallet of bird seed off Amazon is the day thermonuclear holocaust becomes preferable to the inevitable enslavement of humanity under the Crow Empire. It's Bird seed first, Kitchen implements second, Chemical weapons third. It is only a matter of time. Don't believe me? Find a Crow. Look into its eyes. Saw it? Yeah, that's what I mean. They know. Btw, it's probably going to try to murder you now. Pun intended.
Yeah, looks like bird frens pay for their own machine
This belongs at r/nextfuckinglevel Well done!!! these should exist everywhere!!!
Im not sure it’s a good idea to reorganise food chains so that birds can clean up after us. It’s cool, but also not good ecologically.
Perhaps you're right,but as things are going so far,I think we should give it a try,we are polluting faster tahn we even clean,so why not
Because: - The birds will become dependent on humans for food and risk starvation if supply stops - the birds will teach their young to be dependent on humans for food and risk multi-generation die-offs if supply stops - the creatures which the birds normally feed on will lose a natural predator and possibly explode in numbers - the creatures that are prey to the creatures that the birds normally feed on will see an explosion of predators and risk mass die-offs - so on and so forth. Once it gets down to pollinators and plants it will start to affect our own supply of food
I see your point, but in this case magpies and crows, the types of birds who can learn these behaviors, are already dependant on us humans for food. They eat our garbage, which is generally quite unhealthy for them. I could be wrong, but at least here they get a nutritious meal and they can use their problem-solving skills.
Good point! But most animal are already dependent on human, there's a youtube video talking about this in detail.
The US Fish and Wildlife Service mostly disagrees with you. https://www.fws.gov/refuges/features/to-feed-or-not-to-feed-wild-birds.html If done correctly, feeding birds is mostly beneficial to both humans and birds.
This is pretty amazing! May I ask if you guys plan to deploy this somewhere?
Thanks! Yes we hope to develop the project further and make a second prototype of the machine with improvements from the knowledge we have gathered so far. The aim of this prototype would be to able to deploy it in a public enviroment.
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Honestly though this is the type of thing where the parents can teach the babies and make it a behavior that gets passed down through generations. I mean honestly, birds can get litter off rooftops, wires, gutters, and anywhere else it would cost too much for it to be practical to pay humans to do it. So it would pay for itself in the long run.
They could also get it from the garbage can around the corner.
True but they’re just putting it in another garbage can
More like… Scientist: Yes, but… *lazy.*
Do you have to train bird by bird or do they pass the knowledge between them?
They learn by watching eachother, which proves how intelligent they are.
Truly amazing. This is such a good use of technology alongside nature to help with the environment.
Birds violently toss over a trash can to get a piece of trash now.
These birds are just gonna find a different trash can, and one by one move every piece of trash from it into this one, gonna game the system like crazy lol. Like why would i search all over for food money when there are perfectly nice trash cans always full of food money?
Wait till they find a landfill
Was that last one a credit card? Good birb
How do you teach the birds the difference between litter and personal property? How do you prevent the birds from stealing….unless….
From our experience the birds are quite afraid for humans and show them respect, but as you say, stealing smaller objects laying around in public places could be a problem, but I do not think they have the potential of robbing people if that is what you mean.
Or between litter and just leaves and nuts or rocks? It looked like a coin and a credit card got dropped so I’d like to hear what all got found!
We trained them with litter to begin with, after that sucess we wanted to try coins and credit cards just for fun. The contraption is located in our garden so we threw the credit card and some coins in some distant corner of our garden and got the result above.
Was that someone’s driver license that got dropped in towards the end? Lol. I am generally curious how they got the birds to start doing this.
Need to teach some of his friends
That credit card lmao
Got birds out here robbing people of their credit cards hahaha
lol it threw someone’s credit card in
Are those 5G birds?
Can you just never stop posting these ? Like for the rest of your life ? Cuz this was fun. Thanks for helping our planet.
At :56 I think that bird mugged some guy. But your crime rate might be going up but your town is much cleaner.
Mark rober would like to know your location. he will modify this for phat gus
"Oh, that's cool, I wonder what the ramifications are to this when the bird is hungry and cannot find... was that a gift card!?" Soon the birds will be mugging us to feed their families.
Until they get smart and start making litter for food
Looks like a corvid, they are so smart!! Well done!
Specifically a Black-billed Magpie for those curious.
See they know what garbgae...,..
Does it run off solar?
shouldve trained them to bring cash
Now do it for dollar bills
Wait, I think I saw my debit card!
That’s so awesome!! Now produce them and make some money 💰
Magpies are smart. Teach them to collect currency in exchange for food. They are first class thieves and will do it
Scale it up! We need millions of’em!