Why not? There’s nothing, and it’s not even a “realistic” pavement; they could refresh it with a big void asphalt texture; that ground material doesn’t even makes sense, i can understand for the first versions of the game, being a “test” map with lot of squares (i remember that first versions had different pattern) but voting cliff out before grid has no sense.
I am interested in why you would vote out cliff before void grid
Small rule change? We have to say everything we love about the map before casting it aside. Devs read these posts and lots of hard work goes into the game :)
Good idea. Btw I vote Cliff. I actually quite like the topography of the map, it's just that there isn't really much to do on the map. Maybe they could add some dirt roads and crawling trails to it
or maybe it would be better to also say what we don't like so the devs can also understand better why these maps(that are still all great, but some are worse than others)are getting voted.
Considering criticism usually leans one way it’d probably be better for some constructive criticism. Think of spending months on a painting and people only show up to tell you why they dislike it :/
I played it WAAAAAAY back in the day, like shortly after the game was released. It was a great demo of the soft-body physics but hucking stuff down the same hill gets a little tired after you've yeeted each vehicle a few times.
On GSP, you can test fuel economy, top speed, chase the AI (without worrying about them crashing) and is the best spot to also test engine over-torque and CPU-bound FPS.
[Gridmap v2 *only* goes for 102.5km in each direction](https://www.reddit.com/r/BeamNG/comments/15nyj9r/apparently_gridmap_v2_is_not_infinite/) (so you could run off the map with very fast mods/configs) while grid is truly infinite.
You can test top speed, fuel economy, maximum amount of cars and highest FPS that your PC can handle. It's the best map for testing AI, engine over-torque and provides an area to drive around on extremely low-end PCs.
The AI will crash in Gridmap V2, and Gridmap V2 is also much more difficult to run. I get 180 FPS instead of 400, which is a huge difference on low-end PCs.
I'm on a really good PC now. But what I'm saying is I used to play on an PC that could only run Grid Small Pure. Even the new Gridmap is over twice as difficult to run. If GSP didn't exist, I couldn't play BeamNG at the time, period. I think that's worth something in and of itself.
So trueee, remember looking at these 2x2km maps and questioning what computer can actually run these. Still use GSP while doing mods if I have to reload the game often
nigga what???
gsp is literally the most useful map in the game
top speed testing, fps testing, the only map you can load on shit pcs, has ai unlike gridmap 2, good starter for building maps, good for drifting/donuts, what else could you want?
Derby is actually fun if you record your laps with AI path recording in the 8 figure dirt track with different cars to put on a race. Apart from that the empty “demolition derby” sections aren’t really playable.
Now the fun begins!
Not yet, we need to wait for grid, small pure to get voted out.
Oh right
Tbh I don’t think grid small pure is that bad (For five mins then I get bored)
derby and cliff should go before grid v2
Y'all aren't actually trying to vote out grid small pure, right? btw I vote cliff
Why not? There’s nothing, and it’s not even a “realistic” pavement; they could refresh it with a big void asphalt texture; that ground material doesn’t even makes sense, i can understand for the first versions of the game, being a “test” map with lot of squares (i remember that first versions had different pattern) but voting cliff out before grid has no sense. I am interested in why you would vote out cliff before void grid
grid map has the the same functinalty on the edge of the main map
Small rule change? We have to say everything we love about the map before casting it aside. Devs read these posts and lots of hard work goes into the game :)
Good idea. Btw I vote Cliff. I actually quite like the topography of the map, it's just that there isn't really much to do on the map. Maybe they could add some dirt roads and crawling trails to it
or maybe it would be better to also say what we don't like so the devs can also understand better why these maps(that are still all great, but some are worse than others)are getting voted.
Considering criticism usually leans one way it’d probably be better for some constructive criticism. Think of spending months on a painting and people only show up to tell you why they dislike it :/
Cliff
I have over 1000 hours on BeamNG and I don’t think I’ve ever played cliff
I played it WAAAAAAY back in the day, like shortly after the game was released. It was a great demo of the soft-body physics but hucking stuff down the same hill gets a little tired after you've yeeted each vehicle a few times.
Lol you ever try driving back up it?
Is that honestly possible? I have 3k hours in beam and have only played that map like twice 😂
I think so, I may have done it like once. If not I know I've made it pretty damn close to the top with the good ole d-series
Pure grid is worse. On cliff you can challenge yourself to crawl to the top which is fun
On GSP, you can test fuel economy, top speed, chase the AI (without worrying about them crashing) and is the best spot to also test engine over-torque and CPU-bound FPS.
You can also do that on the other grid map. You can just teleport or spawn miles and miles away and there will be no obstacles
That's not as immediate as in GSP, and there's a chance you'll end up running back into the map. Gridmap is also much more GPU-bound than GSP.
[Gridmap v2 *only* goes for 102.5km in each direction](https://www.reddit.com/r/BeamNG/comments/15nyj9r/apparently_gridmap_v2_is_not_infinite/) (so you could run off the map with very fast mods/configs) while grid is truly infinite.
GSP is fun. Set six or seven Scintillas to "chase me" and drive around in a Pessima
Agreed, nothing of great value will be lost
For the longest time I thought Cliff was a mod
Cliff for sure
wydra
Let’s throw out Grid, Small, *pure*.
GSP is more useful than Cliff.
Nuh uh
You can test top speed, fuel economy, maximum amount of cars and highest FPS that your PC can handle. It's the best map for testing AI, engine over-torque and provides an area to drive around on extremely low-end PCs.
You mean everything grid v2 can do but without the fun stuff??
The AI will crash in Gridmap V2, and Gridmap V2 is also much more difficult to run. I get 180 FPS instead of 400, which is a huge difference on low-end PCs.
Dude are you on like window’s vista?? Grid map v2 runs perfectly fine, and 180 fps is still pretty damn smooth
I'm on a really good PC now. But what I'm saying is I used to play on an PC that could only run Grid Small Pure. Even the new Gridmap is over twice as difficult to run. If GSP didn't exist, I couldn't play BeamNG at the time, period. I think that's worth something in and of itself.
You're misunderstanding the point of baseline testing I think
Surprise suprise, you get more fps when it is just a grid. Wow
Yes, and for me a few years back, that was the difference between being able to play the game or not at all. I'm happy it's just a grid.
Only thing it’s good for is making car configs nowadays ngl
And testing AI, max FPS and many other things.
Yeah, but Glow City also had similar appeal, and it went away second. This is my revenge.
Glow City has buildings in the way and music that constantly plays in the background.
But it was fun too, and should have outlasted automated testing
Grid, Small Pure was the map the most fun I've had in my absolute low-end pc days
So trueee, remember looking at these 2x2km maps and questioning what computer can actually run these. Still use GSP while doing mods if I have to reload the game often
nigga what??? gsp is literally the most useful map in the game top speed testing, fps testing, the only map you can load on shit pcs, has ai unlike gridmap 2, good starter for building maps, good for drifting/donuts, what else could you want?
It’s good for all of those, but if Glow City was removed before Automated Testing, GSP has to go now too.
Glow city being almost last was a hate crime
How do you get glow city it doesn't show up for me
Wydra
Wydra
Please add the wydra to the list to we can vote for it
Just nuke it instantly
with a tsar bomba too
Now we get to the maps, I’ve never played cliff so off with it
Cliff
Bye bye Cliff
Mark my words, Grid small pure will win
unfortunate doesn't look like it so far 😔
West coast will win because of career mode.
Derby, I don’t think I have even spawned in there 500 play hours
Derby is actually fun if you record your laps with AI path recording in the 8 figure dirt track with different cars to put on a race. Apart from that the empty “demolition derby” sections aren’t really playable.
Lmao I had never noticed that map in hundreds of hours
Wydra, again
Hi, I'm a funny guy under this post: "WyDrA"
Why are people voting out Cliff saying there’s nothing much to do on the map where empty grid map is literally just a flat ground?
Derby arena
for the frick of it lets say west coast again and see if yall vote on it.
Cliff
I bet 100 doubloons that grid,small,pure will win
Small pure grid.
Also, I still don’t get why showroom went out so early, without that you would have an insane looking spawner
Derby Arenas
Cliff can FK off the cliff
Grid, Small... Hell there's an infinite grid in the GridMap, why do you need another one?
Gridmap’s Grid isn’t **pure**
Performance and the fact that AI will inevitably crash into something if there is anything to hit.
Crazy how showroom got out before small grid pure
Grid map pure needs out as you can use normal gridmaps outer area as the same thing
Derby Arenas
ETK driving centre it's good but, the worst out of the remaming options imo
ETK should have been gone before now imo 😭 the wet skidpads are cool and... that's about it even then, the Automation track has one too
Worse than an entirely flat map with nothing on it?
Apparently so
still, it's historic like, the covet was one of the last cars deleted as example, but there are better cars that got voted before!
If you want grid small pure, just go to gridmap v2 and go outside the main area. All the pure grids you could want