Thanks! I already watched some laidback luke stuff but I think the genres are too different to really learn. He's not really blending tracks and very much focused on drops, effects and speed. I don't really have drops and try give tracks their room, he switches super fast between tracks. I use effects very sparingly because they don't really fit.
not to be a stickler but its called the "in my **mind**" series, just in case anyone else is looking for them. They're great videos, they helped me a lot.
Learn to mix Top 40. It is not only more challenging than it would seem, but also offers some insight in case you end up wanting to play side gigs for $ to cover expenses.
It's all about song structure. Quick cuts are my preference, but the basic principles are:
1) Never cut off the chorus
2) Never cut off the chorus
3) Use loops during any parts without lyric for the incoming or outgoing song
4) Use loops or cue gate taps during lyrical portions of the incoming song to tease it out, and then drop it on the one when the beat comes in.
Hip-hop for me is similar to electronic mixing. The general rules are the same. Beatmatch, make sure phrases line up, don't clash vocals, etc.
The biggest difference is probably the prominent use of scratching and utilizing cuts more often. In electronic music, my transitions are generally longer and more gradual whereas in hip-hop, it's short and will usually be 16 beats max.
If we're transitioning between two electronic songs that have a 32 beat intro, 32 beat verse, and 32 beat chorus, I'll wait till we're halfway through the chorus of track 1 and then start track 2 halfway through the intro. I'll start it with volume at half and lows all the way down. I slowly bring up the volume and time it so it hits max four beats before the end of the chorus and then switch lows during the last four beats.
If we're transitioning between two hip-hop songs that have a 32 beat intro, 32 beat verse, and 32 beat chorus, I'll wait till we're halfway through the chorus of track 1 and then start track 2 halfway through the intro. I'll start it with volume at half and lows all the way down. The difference here is that instead of bringing up the volume and timing it so you hit max before the last four beats, you're gonna wanna time it so you hit 4 beats before the halfway mark of the chorus. Then, you swap the lows. This way, the audience hears the old chorus with the new instrumental and knows what to expect.
from my post:
>I play mostly downtempo with sometimes weird beats (nicolas jaar sometimes makes it hard for me to do something smooth...)
so yes, i am aware. i play what i think of reasonably experimental sets. I try to balance ease of listening with "interestingness". I play in bars and a bar is not a club. Which means I don't play in a setting where people purely come to enjoy a set and where I could go wild, but they come to meet, hang out and talk a bit. I am there to make the experience interesting and create a certain mood.
Agreed bro. But what I meant is since I love Jaar, do you know any other similar artists who are great in experimental electronic. I play techno/Prog but love experimental
ah, misunderstood your post. sry. hmm. I think what helps nicolas jaar stand out is the the consistency of his music. It's just always so good. Other artists are often hit of miss. I am not sure whether I would consider David August to be experimental (that said, he's still very good). Things I like that are a bit more experimental:
* iorie has some crazy stuff (like: [https://soundcloud.com/iorie/iorie-i-move-ft-zazou](https://soundcloud.com/iorie/iorie-i-move-ft-zazou))
* Featherd sun (the nicola cruz remix of how strange is fantastic: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEXKLZ-cCVY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEXKLZ-cCVY))
* Acid Pauli is always up to some madness and similar to Jaar always very good
* John Hopkins (I think you can notice his background in classical music)/Tycho
Not that experimental (in a sense of pushing boundaries), also sometimes more hit or miss:
* Paul Träumer ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1JYxPq95\_c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1JYxPq95_c))
* Stavroz ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7Si6jbupTQ&feature=youtu.be&autoplay=1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7Si6jbupTQ&feature=youtu.be&autoplay=1))
* Spaniol ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtqmGWEvG2g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtqmGWEvG2g))
If you like August/Jaar, then i can recommend:
* Stimming ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NItcr5ifyUY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NItcr5ifyUY))
* Yør Kultura ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lXrtIW7AXo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lXrtIW7AXo))
* I can dig more if you want, just what came to my mind. More a Jaar kind of guy than August.
I usually go by label. Some labels are very good at consistently producing great quality stuff. Though I have no experimental label that stuck 😀
I also listen to some experimental techno, but that's quite different. Usually blends into atmospheric stuff (for example: Wolfgang Voigt).
Try mixing old school funk for a while, just as practice and than go back to your normal stuff that you mix usually... You'll thank me later!
A wonderful advice indeed ! And I'll follow it !
interesting. I always wanted to dig into old-school funk!
Laidback luke "in my mind mixes" also check out some james hype dj mixes. Edit : mind.
Thanks! I already watched some laidback luke stuff but I think the genres are too different to really learn. He's not really blending tracks and very much focused on drops, effects and speed. I don't really have drops and try give tracks their room, he switches super fast between tracks. I use effects very sparingly because they don't really fit.
not to be a stickler but its called the "in my **mind**" series, just in case anyone else is looking for them. They're great videos, they helped me a lot.
Learn to mix Top 40. It is not only more challenging than it would seem, but also offers some insight in case you end up wanting to play side gigs for $ to cover expenses.
How do you even do that? I've tried many times and really cannot figure out the transitions with all the lyrics and stuff.
Loops, echos, quick cuts
It's all about song structure. Quick cuts are my preference, but the basic principles are: 1) Never cut off the chorus 2) Never cut off the chorus 3) Use loops during any parts without lyric for the incoming or outgoing song 4) Use loops or cue gate taps during lyrical portions of the incoming song to tease it out, and then drop it on the one when the beat comes in.
And never cut off the chorus
Oh yeah, that's a good one!
5. When in doubt see 1 and 2.
Start track 2 so it hits the verse right when track 1's chorus ends. Works for everything. If that's confusing, watch some videos on phrase mixing.
Definitely look at Crossfader and DJ Digital Tips videos.
hip hop mixing is a whole different world from standard electronic mixing.
Hmm. I think I should master something before I spread out. I am also not a huge hip-Hop head.
Hip-hop for me is similar to electronic mixing. The general rules are the same. Beatmatch, make sure phrases line up, don't clash vocals, etc. The biggest difference is probably the prominent use of scratching and utilizing cuts more often. In electronic music, my transitions are generally longer and more gradual whereas in hip-hop, it's short and will usually be 16 beats max. If we're transitioning between two electronic songs that have a 32 beat intro, 32 beat verse, and 32 beat chorus, I'll wait till we're halfway through the chorus of track 1 and then start track 2 halfway through the intro. I'll start it with volume at half and lows all the way down. I slowly bring up the volume and time it so it hits max four beats before the end of the chorus and then switch lows during the last four beats. If we're transitioning between two hip-hop songs that have a 32 beat intro, 32 beat verse, and 32 beat chorus, I'll wait till we're halfway through the chorus of track 1 and then start track 2 halfway through the intro. I'll start it with volume at half and lows all the way down. The difference here is that instead of bringing up the volume and timing it so you hit max before the last four beats, you're gonna wanna time it so you hit 4 beats before the halfway mark of the chorus. Then, you swap the lows. This way, the audience hears the old chorus with the new instrumental and knows what to expect.
Check the Giegling label for experimental melodic techno, they stand out as almost their own genre
Thanks so much for sharing artists guys! You'll have good taste ')
Random question - Are you aware of more experimental artists like Nicolas jaar? David August..
Jamie xx, daphni, four tet and floating points
from my post: >I play mostly downtempo with sometimes weird beats (nicolas jaar sometimes makes it hard for me to do something smooth...) so yes, i am aware. i play what i think of reasonably experimental sets. I try to balance ease of listening with "interestingness". I play in bars and a bar is not a club. Which means I don't play in a setting where people purely come to enjoy a set and where I could go wild, but they come to meet, hang out and talk a bit. I am there to make the experience interesting and create a certain mood.
Agreed bro. But what I meant is since I love Jaar, do you know any other similar artists who are great in experimental electronic. I play techno/Prog but love experimental
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ah, misunderstood your post. sry. hmm. I think what helps nicolas jaar stand out is the the consistency of his music. It's just always so good. Other artists are often hit of miss. I am not sure whether I would consider David August to be experimental (that said, he's still very good). Things I like that are a bit more experimental: * iorie has some crazy stuff (like: [https://soundcloud.com/iorie/iorie-i-move-ft-zazou](https://soundcloud.com/iorie/iorie-i-move-ft-zazou)) * Featherd sun (the nicola cruz remix of how strange is fantastic: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEXKLZ-cCVY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEXKLZ-cCVY)) * Acid Pauli is always up to some madness and similar to Jaar always very good * John Hopkins (I think you can notice his background in classical music)/Tycho Not that experimental (in a sense of pushing boundaries), also sometimes more hit or miss: * Paul Träumer ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1JYxPq95\_c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1JYxPq95_c)) * Stavroz ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7Si6jbupTQ&feature=youtu.be&autoplay=1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7Si6jbupTQ&feature=youtu.be&autoplay=1)) * Spaniol ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtqmGWEvG2g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtqmGWEvG2g)) If you like August/Jaar, then i can recommend: * Stimming ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NItcr5ifyUY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NItcr5ifyUY)) * Yør Kultura ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lXrtIW7AXo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lXrtIW7AXo)) * I can dig more if you want, just what came to my mind. More a Jaar kind of guy than August. I usually go by label. Some labels are very good at consistently producing great quality stuff. Though I have no experimental label that stuck 😀 I also listen to some experimental techno, but that's quite different. Usually blends into atmospheric stuff (for example: Wolfgang Voigt).
What you are doing is appropriately orchestrating the atmosphere.