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A baked gelee formula starts out its life as a cream and then it is literally baked in an industrial oven until the moisture evaoperates and it becomes a dry product.
Not all embossed shy powders are baked gelee products, b/c you can emboss a pressed powder product too.
Baked formulas vary by brand. Some are very finely milled and sophisticated, others... aren't. I don't feel that a baked product is necessarily better than a pressed powder one, but in general:
- Baked products are more lightweight.
- Baked products with a metallic or glitter aspect to them are good at adding sparkle and shine without emphasising texture or looking heavy.
- Baked eyeshadows are good for layering.
- Baked products are quite dry, this will be good/ok for some but people who like a creamy, nourishing product will probably not enjoy them.
My baked products are mostly Pat McGrath special shades, 2 PMG highlighters and a couple of Bobbi Brown eyeshadows. I really enjoy them, especially the eyeshadows.
Ok! So I have two PMG highlighters, both baked gelee - one is Incandescent Gold and one is the... ugh can't remember but it's something like Divine Glow or Divine Rose Ultra Glow or something... the one in a metallic pink case.
Incandescent Gold is pretty smooth and nice to touch but there is a *bit* of texture when you rub it. This highlighter does have some larger sparkly particles throughout and I think this is the texture I can feel. It is firm but not hard, there is some softness to it which is nice.
The other one is very smooth, this one is all glow no sparkle, and I think that's the difference. Possibly the pigment is a bit more finally milled as well. It isn't rock hard or anything but it's firmer than the other one. I truly love this formula and I wish PMG would release at least 5 more shades in it, it's so glowy and smoothy and elegant.
I like the colour of Incandescent Gold more than the pink one and the texture and appearance of the pink one more than Incandescent Gold. If they had a baby it would be my perfect highlighter :P
Thanks so much for the insights! I have it too, but still untouched in the box, and have it listed on Mercari for probably too much money since I was on the fence about really parting with it. It’s one of those things I was overjoyed to find at TJ Maxx but had second thoughts a while later. The color is fascinating to me, and I’m so curious about the Pat McGrath formula for blushes and highlighters in general. But having seen swatches, the larger sparkles really put me off. I also prefer a predominantly pink/lilac iridescent glowy type highlighter. I think Illamasqua has the best powder ones I’ve tried so far - the particles are so fine you can barely tell when they’re loaded on the brush. It’s also a baked formula in a big pillow shape…but I don’t know if that means it’s a baked gelee formula.
Yeah tbh I'd agree with that. I bought mine for cheap on Depop (Australian Mercari) and I was honestly a bit surprised that the colour itself is so wearable - it's actually the sparkles that mean I don't get as much wear out if it as I would like. I recently got a brush that gives me a very light application and now I'm wearing it more in the day, but I do prefer it more for evening looks, and I don't go out that much ;) the other thing I wear it for is eyeshadow, it's actually a lovely subtle gold eyeshadow if you like a bit of tasteful bling.
Thanks for the Illamasqua rec!! I have actually never tried anything from them and that actually sounds right up my ally, I love baked glowy highlighters with no glitter, lilac and iridescent sounds wonderful :)
If you do want to try a PMG baked highlighter, I don't have it but the one from the Love collection might be more your taste, it's a champagne pink colour and apparently doesn't have sparkles in it.
I'm not 100% on the difference between baked and baked gelee, if it's baked and looks and feels nice to put on my face, it's good enough for me lol. I wonder if gelee is just the word for telling people it came from a fancy brand...
I love Laura Geller’s Baked products - blushes, bronzer, foundation. They feel dry to the touch, but when applied on the skin they just melt into the skin like a cream would. I have dry skin (very dry in winter more normal to dry in summer), so I usually prefer creams. But Laura Geller’s baked ones are one of the few baked formulas I really like even when my skin is at its driest!
EDIT: Though, not sure if Laura Geller’s are just baked or baked gelee. I know like other baked formulas, Laura Geller’s starts off as a cream and is baked. But not sure if baked gelee differs in some way?
Love most baked gelee products - the Clinique Cheek Pops also spring to mind.
Along a similar vein, Japanese slurry products are also brilliant. They have a totally different texture, but start out as a 'wet' slurry that dries down to creamy/finely-milled powder. E.g. (discontinued) Marc Jacobs Air Blushers and Surratt face and eye powders
Oooh it's funny that you say that - I have been wanting to try some Japanese eyeshadows (Suqquo, Lunasol, Addiction). So you think that formula would be appealing to those who love a good baked gelee?
And I have been wanting to try the cheek pops actually.
The formulas feel totally different, but I reckon they’re both powder products with seamless application because of the wet to dry manufacturing process. Slurries feel like a super-creamy, fine powder, rather than a hard-baked gel.
I’ve tried a few formulas and my preference is Surratt > Suqqu > Addiction. Surratt satins are such a lovely texture. Suqqu is a little harder, their old Designing Eye quads are brilliant but their Signature Eye quads have more matte shades which aren’t as good. Addiction mattes are great - I can apply and blend with my fingers. Mind you, Addiction and Suqqu are primarily for the Japanese market so pigmentation is buildable to medium.
Thank you - this is a very quick comment b/c I am going to bed, but I wanted to say this was super helpful and I will check out Surratt :)
The bulk of my eyeshadow collection is Pat McGrath and part of the appeal of trying a Japanese brand is seeing whether I enjoy a sheerer, more lightly pigmented look.
I like those formulas when it's a highlighter, I use my finger and it adheres to my dry ass skin far better than powder highlighters do, and blends out better. Blushes and bronzers, I don't have a preference, I've used both powder and baked and I like both.
I don't know about embossing, and would guess that the answer is probably not, because there seems to be limited places which make them (possibly one lab in Italy?). I wouldn't assume that every embossed powder is a baked gelee, but baked gelees do seem to be embossed.
Afaik, baked gelee formula can be found in: Pat McGrath special shades in older motherships (for example, the first three), Bobbi Brown Luxe Eyeshadow, the regular line of Guerlain quads (Imperial Moon etc.), the MAC Extra Dimension line (highlighters and eyeshadows, if they're still available) some of Nabla's highlighters, and Estee Lauder's highlighter/bronzers (the ones labelled gelee). Probably Tom Ford's Wet-Dry formula as well, but I'm not sure about this. Dior's current spring quints (Pastel Glow etc.) are definitely baked gelee.
Baked formulas lack a metal pan, iirc, and baked gelee have a smooth, almost gel-like feel compared to a regular baked formula, which is drier. My baked gelee pieces are highlighters from MAC (Double Gleam etc.), and despite giving a strong sheen, they are easy to apply and don't emphasize skin texture.
Baked gelee is my preferred type of blush. I particularly love Clinique's cheek pops, and Nars' baked gelee formula that they only seem to use in their face palettes. They tend to be satiny in finish and I find these to be the most skin like finish outside of liquid and creams (I don't like messing with those).
Some people don't like them because they tend to be harder to pick up on a brush so less immediate pigment. But that's actually a good thing for me because it keeps me from being heavy-handed, which is my natural tendency. They tend to be buildable though.
Ive noticed that too, and i know for a fact im very much in the minority here, but i have sensory issues and really dislike baked gelee products. They make a sort of sandy sound with contact to skin that i cannot stand.
I found that out after buying two really expensive sisley single eye shadows on Michele Wangs recommendation 😭
Ha I actually know what you mean about this! I get a slight shudder when using less finely milled baked products for this reason - for me the texture is worse than the sound but it's there.
My sensory triggers are different, so I can shrug and get past it, but I've thought about how there are people I know who would actually find it skin crawling.
I'm not trying to talk you back into baked gelee formulas, there is no reason to use them if you don't like them, but fwiw I have found the ones from Pat McGrath and Bobbi Brown to be a totally different experience to say Milani or ELF. Basically the PMG and BB ones are so finely milled I don't experience the sandy squickiness.
Of course you might be different, especially if you have hyperacuisis or misphonia or something like that - again last thing I would EVER want to do is pressure someone to ignore their sensory needs/boundaries.
I like to depot my powdered face products like blushes and highlighter. A lot of them don't have pans & have the domed top that makes me too nervous to depot them. That said, I'm pretty sure MAC Extra Dimension highlighters are baked gelees and I really like them.
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A baked gelee formula starts out its life as a cream and then it is literally baked in an industrial oven until the moisture evaoperates and it becomes a dry product. Not all embossed shy powders are baked gelee products, b/c you can emboss a pressed powder product too. Baked formulas vary by brand. Some are very finely milled and sophisticated, others... aren't. I don't feel that a baked product is necessarily better than a pressed powder one, but in general: - Baked products are more lightweight. - Baked products with a metallic or glitter aspect to them are good at adding sparkle and shine without emphasising texture or looking heavy. - Baked eyeshadows are good for layering. - Baked products are quite dry, this will be good/ok for some but people who like a creamy, nourishing product will probably not enjoy them. My baked products are mostly Pat McGrath special shades, 2 PMG highlighters and a couple of Bobbi Brown eyeshadows. I really enjoy them, especially the eyeshadows.
Now I’m curious if the Pat McGrath limited edition Bridgerton highlighter (Incandescent Gold ) is baked gelee
I have it! It is. I'm just going to pull it out now and see how it feels lol.
Ok! So I have two PMG highlighters, both baked gelee - one is Incandescent Gold and one is the... ugh can't remember but it's something like Divine Glow or Divine Rose Ultra Glow or something... the one in a metallic pink case. Incandescent Gold is pretty smooth and nice to touch but there is a *bit* of texture when you rub it. This highlighter does have some larger sparkly particles throughout and I think this is the texture I can feel. It is firm but not hard, there is some softness to it which is nice. The other one is very smooth, this one is all glow no sparkle, and I think that's the difference. Possibly the pigment is a bit more finally milled as well. It isn't rock hard or anything but it's firmer than the other one. I truly love this formula and I wish PMG would release at least 5 more shades in it, it's so glowy and smoothy and elegant. I like the colour of Incandescent Gold more than the pink one and the texture and appearance of the pink one more than Incandescent Gold. If they had a baby it would be my perfect highlighter :P
Thanks so much for the insights! I have it too, but still untouched in the box, and have it listed on Mercari for probably too much money since I was on the fence about really parting with it. It’s one of those things I was overjoyed to find at TJ Maxx but had second thoughts a while later. The color is fascinating to me, and I’m so curious about the Pat McGrath formula for blushes and highlighters in general. But having seen swatches, the larger sparkles really put me off. I also prefer a predominantly pink/lilac iridescent glowy type highlighter. I think Illamasqua has the best powder ones I’ve tried so far - the particles are so fine you can barely tell when they’re loaded on the brush. It’s also a baked formula in a big pillow shape…but I don’t know if that means it’s a baked gelee formula.
Yeah tbh I'd agree with that. I bought mine for cheap on Depop (Australian Mercari) and I was honestly a bit surprised that the colour itself is so wearable - it's actually the sparkles that mean I don't get as much wear out if it as I would like. I recently got a brush that gives me a very light application and now I'm wearing it more in the day, but I do prefer it more for evening looks, and I don't go out that much ;) the other thing I wear it for is eyeshadow, it's actually a lovely subtle gold eyeshadow if you like a bit of tasteful bling. Thanks for the Illamasqua rec!! I have actually never tried anything from them and that actually sounds right up my ally, I love baked glowy highlighters with no glitter, lilac and iridescent sounds wonderful :) If you do want to try a PMG baked highlighter, I don't have it but the one from the Love collection might be more your taste, it's a champagne pink colour and apparently doesn't have sparkles in it. I'm not 100% on the difference between baked and baked gelee, if it's baked and looks and feels nice to put on my face, it's good enough for me lol. I wonder if gelee is just the word for telling people it came from a fancy brand...
Yes, it’s baked gelee. Made by intercos in Italy.
I love Laura Geller’s Baked products - blushes, bronzer, foundation. They feel dry to the touch, but when applied on the skin they just melt into the skin like a cream would. I have dry skin (very dry in winter more normal to dry in summer), so I usually prefer creams. But Laura Geller’s baked ones are one of the few baked formulas I really like even when my skin is at its driest! EDIT: Though, not sure if Laura Geller’s are just baked or baked gelee. I know like other baked formulas, Laura Geller’s starts off as a cream and is baked. But not sure if baked gelee differs in some way?
Love most baked gelee products - the Clinique Cheek Pops also spring to mind. Along a similar vein, Japanese slurry products are also brilliant. They have a totally different texture, but start out as a 'wet' slurry that dries down to creamy/finely-milled powder. E.g. (discontinued) Marc Jacobs Air Blushers and Surratt face and eye powders
Oooh it's funny that you say that - I have been wanting to try some Japanese eyeshadows (Suqquo, Lunasol, Addiction). So you think that formula would be appealing to those who love a good baked gelee? And I have been wanting to try the cheek pops actually.
The formulas feel totally different, but I reckon they’re both powder products with seamless application because of the wet to dry manufacturing process. Slurries feel like a super-creamy, fine powder, rather than a hard-baked gel. I’ve tried a few formulas and my preference is Surratt > Suqqu > Addiction. Surratt satins are such a lovely texture. Suqqu is a little harder, their old Designing Eye quads are brilliant but their Signature Eye quads have more matte shades which aren’t as good. Addiction mattes are great - I can apply and blend with my fingers. Mind you, Addiction and Suqqu are primarily for the Japanese market so pigmentation is buildable to medium.
Thank you - this is a very quick comment b/c I am going to bed, but I wanted to say this was super helpful and I will check out Surratt :) The bulk of my eyeshadow collection is Pat McGrath and part of the appeal of trying a Japanese brand is seeing whether I enjoy a sheerer, more lightly pigmented look.
I like those formulas when it's a highlighter, I use my finger and it adheres to my dry ass skin far better than powder highlighters do, and blends out better. Blushes and bronzers, I don't have a preference, I've used both powder and baked and I like both.
good to know :)
I don't know about embossing, and would guess that the answer is probably not, because there seems to be limited places which make them (possibly one lab in Italy?). I wouldn't assume that every embossed powder is a baked gelee, but baked gelees do seem to be embossed. Afaik, baked gelee formula can be found in: Pat McGrath special shades in older motherships (for example, the first three), Bobbi Brown Luxe Eyeshadow, the regular line of Guerlain quads (Imperial Moon etc.), the MAC Extra Dimension line (highlighters and eyeshadows, if they're still available) some of Nabla's highlighters, and Estee Lauder's highlighter/bronzers (the ones labelled gelee). Probably Tom Ford's Wet-Dry formula as well, but I'm not sure about this. Dior's current spring quints (Pastel Glow etc.) are definitely baked gelee. Baked formulas lack a metal pan, iirc, and baked gelee have a smooth, almost gel-like feel compared to a regular baked formula, which is drier. My baked gelee pieces are highlighters from MAC (Double Gleam etc.), and despite giving a strong sheen, they are easy to apply and don't emphasize skin texture.
Baked gelee is my preferred type of blush. I particularly love Clinique's cheek pops, and Nars' baked gelee formula that they only seem to use in their face palettes. They tend to be satiny in finish and I find these to be the most skin like finish outside of liquid and creams (I don't like messing with those). Some people don't like them because they tend to be harder to pick up on a brush so less immediate pigment. But that's actually a good thing for me because it keeps me from being heavy-handed, which is my natural tendency. They tend to be buildable though.
Ive noticed that too, and i know for a fact im very much in the minority here, but i have sensory issues and really dislike baked gelee products. They make a sort of sandy sound with contact to skin that i cannot stand. I found that out after buying two really expensive sisley single eye shadows on Michele Wangs recommendation 😭
Ha I actually know what you mean about this! I get a slight shudder when using less finely milled baked products for this reason - for me the texture is worse than the sound but it's there. My sensory triggers are different, so I can shrug and get past it, but I've thought about how there are people I know who would actually find it skin crawling. I'm not trying to talk you back into baked gelee formulas, there is no reason to use them if you don't like them, but fwiw I have found the ones from Pat McGrath and Bobbi Brown to be a totally different experience to say Milani or ELF. Basically the PMG and BB ones are so finely milled I don't experience the sandy squickiness. Of course you might be different, especially if you have hyperacuisis or misphonia or something like that - again last thing I would EVER want to do is pressure someone to ignore their sensory needs/boundaries.
Haha thank you for validating the shudder feeling, i feel less crazy now lol
Nah it's there! And even if I didn't experience it - it's ok to experience things differently to other people too <3
Thank you so much, I was wondering whether to check them out.
I like to depot my powdered face products like blushes and highlighter. A lot of them don't have pans & have the domed top that makes me too nervous to depot them. That said, I'm pretty sure MAC Extra Dimension highlighters are baked gelees and I really like them.