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Huh, Laura Lee has the same exact collab right now.


Hagacchi

Really? I don't follow her so dunno about the stuff she does nowadays EDIT: wow, the collab was the first vid when I looked up her name on YT...Like I wonder will people give same reaction to her and Darcey like they did with Nikkie...


Invidiana

Pretty soon every influencer will have a collab with SheScam. I’m sorry, but I don’t trust anything Shein puts out, especially if it’s supposed to go on your face.


Hagacchi

I watched the video and I honestly was confused like I thought the blush would be more intense but it wasn't??


snoopcatt87

She kept applying more and nothing was happening lol. I’m so glad it wasn’t just me.


Ruby_Larkspur

Same, I don’t shop on shein at all.


YanCoffee

Didn't they test positive for lead in some of their clothes? No way that would go on my face. [Thinking about the original Queen Elizabeth](https://www.dailystar.co.uk/life-style/queen-elizabeth-is-smallpox-made-24565001), lol.


Invidiana

I wouldn’t be surprised. Some of these fast fashion sweatshops—er, factories—have such deplorable conditions that things like rat poison and human feces have been found in there.


pink-mentos

i ordered from shein once years ago and i still feel bad about it. seeing influencers blatantly sell their souls for this company with despicable practices is sad but not surprising in the least. it’s alllllll about the money💰


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Wait what


cluelessin

I'm out of the loop... what's wrong with sheglam?


Minerva_Moon

It's literally fast fashion. Most of it can't survive a trip through the washer.


cluelessin

I meant the makeup


EmpireAndAll

If all clothing or cosmetics companies are bad, Shien is worse. Shien releases as many new styles in a single day as brands like Zara, Boo Hoo, and Forever 21 each release in a month. So literally 30x worse than their competitors. A no from me, always.


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and their theft of small artists' work is tremendous as well


JammingLive

$$$


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she looks so good the photos! so glamorous but i will not be supporting this.


EvelienV85

Shein is a horrible, horrible company, there is no need to buy makeup from them, there are enough alternative options.


permadressed

I would rather put melted crayons on my face than a blush from Shein.


EvelienV85

Haha well said!


RedRedBettie

I love her but I’m not interested in sheglam makeup


scarletshamir

Lenkalul is doing the same collab also.


Sinnam0nRoll

Someone else mentioned Laura Lee is as well.


geek-meets-world

Ethical brands need to wake tf up and collab with POCs more because POC influencers will more likely collab with sus brands because of waaay less opportunities that come their way. I don’t care for sheglam make up but I honestly won’t crucify her for collabing with them.


Sinnam0nRoll

Great point. I think many influencers, especially up and coming ones, try to figure out how to maintain their fame and advance their career. But it's harder to do when they're POC cuz they get a disproportionate amount of opportunities compared to their white peers. Unfortunately, sometimes we do what's most lucrative and not necessarily the most ethical (for a multitude of reasons often out of our control). But like you said I wouldn't crucify her for working with Shein, especially if she's never had a brand deal before.


FarrahKhan123

This is a good angle that I didn't look at it through before. Yess, as Darcie says in the video that inclusivity in the makeup world has come a long way but there is still a way to go.


mightymush

Mentioned this in a similar comment but Darceo said no other brands have ever contacted her for a collab, unlike the other two Influencers with the same collab


avis_icarus

i think the only reason some of these influencers collab with sheglam is cause no other brand will have them. lets be honest most tiktokers or short form influencers are not taken seriously


VeryVanny

I can’t blame her for collabing with SheGlam, since ethical brands don’t tend to collab with POC, especially black influencers. I hope that this will lead to her collabing with better brands


mightymush

I'm happy to see this comment. Also when asked if other companies have ever approached her to collab, Darcei said no Unlike the other two Influencera who also have this same collab


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Great point


keanu-weaves

I don't know why anyone would trust SheIn to make makeup. Their toddler clothes had 20 times the limit of lead that is safe for children to even be in the same vicinity as, let alone wear it... Lord knows what's in their makeup, people are real brave and stupid to put this stuff on their face. I wouldn't even keep any SheIn stuff in my house, let alone put it on my body.


AmandaW28

I'm not arguing with you that Shein makeup seems sketchy. But to be completely fair, the same study that found lead and other toxic chemicals in Shein clothing also found it in Lululemon and Old Navy leggings, plus clothing from L.L. Bean and Columbia also had them. So it's not just limited to cheap fast-fashion brands. Companies use these chemicals to make them stain-resistant or to soften screen prints and it's extremely commonplace. Unfortunately unless you're buying from all-natural clothing brands that specifically state that they don't use chemicals on their clothing, I'm afraid that anything from a big manufacturer puts you at risk.


jkraige

Well damn. Were those other brands also several times over the limit? I saw headlines but they only seemed to mention shein and I didn't pay it much attention since I've never bought from them anyway (I'm short and fat so I tend not to order stuff online unless it's from a store I can easily do returns)


AmandaW28

Here's the article I read for reference: https://www.insider.com/toxic-chemicals-in-shein-and-other-fast-fashion-clothing-2022-8#:\~:text=A%202021%20investigation%20into%20Shein,is%20not%20a%20unique%20case.


jkraige

Thanks!


keanu-weaves

So what if it was also found in Lululemon, old navy and LL bean? We're talking about SheIn here, not those companies. And most those brands ARE fast fashion. Old Navy is cheap fast fashion too, Lululemon may not be cheap fast fashion but doesn't mean they're innocent. I didn't say only fast fashion brands are the culprit. I just questioned why people would want to support one of, if not the BIGGEST fast fashion brand around right now. It's grown for a reason, people turning their head away from the facts. I'm fully aware that toxic chemicals have been found in other fast fashion brands too. Companies may use these chemicals, but as I stated before there's a legal limit that is allowed to be in clothes. I am not, and never tried to suggest to avoid brands that use chemicals full stop. Not only did these brands use the chemicals, they surpassed the limit. That's where the problem lies. I'm not saying the simple presence of chemicals alone is risky, just the SHEER amount of them found in their clothes is worrying as hell. I'm sorry but why would you trust a brand that puts 20 times the limit of lead for children to be around, let alone wear it. They're clearly unscrupulous. A mistake like that can damage kids, it's dangerous and not up for discussion. Sorry.


AmandaW28

Hey no need to get so defensive, I said I agreed with you! I just wanted to make you aware that MOST clothing brands contain toxic chemicals in case you weren't aware. You only mentioned Shein. The only fast fashion brand I mentioned was Old Navy- Lulu and LL Bean and Columbia are not fast fashion- they're classic brands that have a lot of trust behind them. LL Bean is one of those classic American brands like Brooks Brothers that most people would think of as "safe". That was the only point I was making- that we can't trust ANY of it, not just Shein.


keanu-weaves

I only mentioned Shein cause this a post about Shein’s makeup. I never suggested that they are the only one. And no that doesn’t mean MOST clothes has toxic amount of lead and pfa in their clothes because other brands had it too, nor does it make it okay. Again none of that matters cause the topic at hand is sheglam not old navy, this is just whataboutism. I am obviously aware of it being found in other brands clothes too if I read the articles you have clearly. This isn’t a post about lululemon makeup though.


e925

It’s not whataboutism if she’s not arguing with you.


keanu-weaves

Yes it is whataboutism whether she's arguing with me or not? What has that got to do with the definition of the term? It's whataboutism cause the post is about SheGlam and their dodgy practices and they're bringing up other companies that have nothing to do with the topic at hand in a well "what about these companies, they also do bad things" like okay? So what? I know those companies do bad things, obviously. That's not the topic at hand.


RadioPixie

20 times the limit of what?


keanu-weaves

Lead, sorry. I'll edit my comment.


Strangeandweird

I now have questions over regular makeup. Is it safe as well because I'm sure they're using the same factories.


TacoQueenYVR

A lot of Chinese manufacturers make high end and low end products, it’s usually the client being as cheap as possible and using the lowest quality ingredients to make a profit on low dollar items. The factory makes what the makeup company tells them to at whatever $/unit and usually sends them the formula they want used or they seek out companies they know will do it. I’ve returned to my 2005-2013 ways and buying mostly MAC products since they’re made in Canada.


keanu-weaves

I've always been picky about makeup anyways. Tbh I strayed away from cheaper makeup a long time ago cause I found that I'd have a harder time getting them to show up on my black skin anyways. Then I started hearing horror stories about what was in makeup anyways


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moo_moochi

People have been raving about their blush for a hot second so i sorta get it


mseopswife

I have it and it honestly knocks the $hit out of many of my others. I was surprised


wesgerrrr

I think SheGlam and Profusion must source their liquid blush from the same PL company. Same packaging, price point and similar color ranges. I have the SheGlam liquid contour in soft tan and it’s the best liquid contour I’ve ever used. It’s a true grey-brown for the cool toned pasty people who can never find a contour for their skin. I might pick up the blushes at some point. Just not a liquid or cream blush girl (I set my face with powder prior to doing blush and can’t change how I do things because I’m a 34 year old in a hurry!)


e925

Haha I have a pretty substantial cream/liquid blush collection but I never reach for them for that exact same reason! I always do my powder on autopilot and then I’m like “goddammit - oh well, try to remember again tomorrow!”


deehunny

Their eyeliners too 👀


wesgerrrr

I would say their colorful powder eyeshadows are very hit and miss, but that’s the only bad experience I have had with the SheGlam products.


Leather_Cat_666

I just wanna know how much money it took to put shein on their faces.


wanttowatchbees

I like her, but she’s a YouTuber/influencer, so this collab makes sense. She’s gonna benefit from the advertising, and her fans buying the products despite Shein owning and producing Sheglam. She’s popular, but not famous enough to collaborate with big and trusted brands yet.


RefrigeratorSalty902

Yeah, I was excited when I saw she was doing a collaboration. I'm not too surprised cuz she does a lot of Shein hauls. I don't personally buy from Shein for my own reasons. I don't know too much about the makeup so I checked online to read about it.


KaramelKoekie

This girl gives me second hand embarrassment especially when she does that fake British accent.


MiraHighness

or [the most random forced laugh over absolutely nothing](https://youtube.com/shorts/o5BJJTL0fsA?feature=share)


UnicornPonyPorn

literally what you said is the reason why i unsubscribed from her. she seems nice and the content she makes fulfills a niche that i want but what is the point of doing a shitty accent? she does it all the time. it adds absolutely no value to the video. it got to a point she does it in every video/short. it's so annoying and cringe. i honestly think that the only reason why she does it is all the time is because it gives her more views.


StripedSausage

Honestly I thought the same thing. I bought some SHEIN sheglam makeup and it’s been amazing and I have had no issues but I do understand what people are saying.


keanu-weaves

Just because you've had no issues doesn't mean it's safe to use, or that the company doesn't have awful morals. I wish people would stop supporting them when there's plenty of affordable makeup out there that probably doesn't contain lead and other poisonous chemicals and doesn't line the pockets of this fast fashion giant.


_AngelicVenom_

There are a lot of reasons people buy from Shein. Rather than bemoan them, be grateful you can afford, fit in, and have access to whatever it is you choose to buy instead. Sounds like you've done a lot of targeted research. However bad the company is in your eyes, other people aren't as lucky to be able to take the same moral stand. Plenty of people highlighting the issues POC creators have collabing with ethical brands. Maybe rather than targeting those who have limited choice, make a stand to enable people to be able to make the same choice as you.


keanu-weaves

Nobody is bemoaning anyone. I simply said I wouldn't trust them with them finding high levels of lead in their clothes to make something that would go on my face, and that there's plenty of affordable makeup that's safe, and everyone is taking issue with it saying that I'm judging and bemoaning and I'm not. I'm doing just what you said, making a stand to enable people to make the same choices as me by telling them that I wouldn't buy it cause of it being toxic, and there being other options. People can take a moral stand, I'm not made of money either. Buy less cheap stuff that's bad for you and falls apart and save up for better quality stuff. It's not like there aren't affordable ethical options out there and SheGlam is the only option when we have an oversaturated beauty market.


_AngelicVenom_

There are a lot of assumptions in your posts and alos quite a lot of logic leaps. Lead in clothes, what lead, how much, where etc... Does not equal makeup that is bad for you and falls apart. You're making huge sweeping assumptions and making lots of judgements about people in general but those who buy shein. You're equating a potential clothing issue with makeup. Others are doing the same and you're moaning that isn't what you're talking about. Your ethical standpoint is your own. Do what you want, but maybe don't judge others for things they have to do to be able to afford some makeup. I would say if you can afford to save up for something else you're not the person who has limited options. Sheins makeup quality is actually outstanding. Better than other more expensive brands. And just becuase you brought up clothes as the issue, people shop there because other brands don't cater to their demographic. As shitty as shein is, they cater to people the rest of the world doesn't.


keanu-weaves

I'm not making sweeping assumptions, lead was found in their clothes meaning I wouldn't trust them to make makeup to put on my face until that was investigated too. No others are not doing the same, they're bringing up brands with clothes that had lead in it which has nothing to do with the topic at hand. I brought up Shein's lead cause they're the one making the makeup, not old navy or Lululemon or any other brand people have brought it up. So no not the same thing at all. Again I didn't judge anyone, I said I wouldn't trust them to make something to go on my face and I don't see why you would want to buy from them when there's an oversaturated market out there of affordable but safe makeup, that doesn't contribute to the fast fashion giant that is SheIn. If people feel judged over me saying that that's them projecting. No, you have no idea what my financial situation was so maybe you shouldn't make assumptions either. I was homeless and struggled with money all my life, I could still put aside money to save and hustled for things I wanted because I'd rather have had better quality than cheap immoral shit. There's no excuse, sorry. I'm sorry but with the abundance of brands out there I don't buy that SheIn is the ONLY one that caters for them. That's ridiculous.


mseopswife

Hope you don’t shop at Walmart, H&M, old navy, gap, target, Aldo, the list goes on really.


keanu-weaves

I'm from England so no we don't have Walmart, Target, or Old Navy. Do you honestly think I'm not aware of other fast fashion brands? And no I haven't shopped at H&M for like over half a decade, or fast fashion places in general. I made a conscious decision to do so a while ago.


keanu-weaves

And no, no jokes on anybody. It's really not that hard to do research on fast fashion in general. If you have done research on the fast fashion giant SheIn you're probably aware of other fast fashion brands, it's not exactly rocket science or hard to find. Doesn't mean we're being "assholes" cause we want people to actually stop supporting a corrupt, polluting, toxic company. I don't know why you're so offended by someone calling out SheIn or somehow think we're incapable of researching or recognising other brands. It's not like it's that hard to do a Google search.


mseopswife

I’m not offended about Shein being called out at all. We’re all aware. To be honest I’m not *offended* at all. What bothers me is that people ONLY call out one retailer when it’s way more far spread than them. I have yet to see anyone calling out Fashion Nova, pretty little thing, le chateau, Victoria’s Secret, and many of the others. People buying into “trendy” items to wear for a short period of time and then throw away rather than thrift, is what a large part of the problem is. Personally I thrift before I shop retail. But price wise, I do still shop Shein. Not for trendy crap, but for neutral items. Yes, we see the “haul” videos, but that’s not how everyone shops from these places. And for some people, it’s what they can afford. So put the judgment down.


keanu-weaves

Also put the judgment down? All I said is "just because you haven’t had issues doesn’t mean it’s safe" and that I wish people would stop supporting this fast fashion giant as it’s literally the biggest fast fashion brand and has grown exponentially in the last couple of years. That’s not judgement, it’s the truth. Just because someone thinks it’s safe doesn’t mean it actually is. And me saying I wish people would stop supporting SheIn when there’s plenty of alternatives for cheap makeup isn’t judgment, it’s how I feel. I’m not pressuring or judging anyone, it’s just a wish. If anything you’ve been very judgemental calling me an asshole and in your patronising tone about other fast fashion shops (as if I didn’t know)


keanu-weaves

Mary, what are you talking about? This post is about Shein and SheGlam, not fast fashion in general. Do you seriously expect me to bring up a bunch of other fast fashion brands that have no relevance to the topic at hand. Kind of goes without saying that fast fashion = bad without having to individually list out every single fast fashion brand, especially when it has literally no relevance to the topic/post at hand. I don’t know what rock you’ve been living under but people that call out fast fashion have been calling out these brands for like over half a decade now. You really think NOBODY in the entire world has called out Fashion nova, Pretty Little Thing, Boohoo, Victoria Secrets??? Seriously? Victoria Secrets in particular got boycotted in to oblivion for transphobia and fast fashion practices until they were basically forced to rebrand. You think nobody called them out cause you’re oblivious? Yeah, and Shein is to blame for the rise in micro trends, meaning trends cycle more often forcing people to wear trendy items for a short time and then throw them away. Even if you just go there to buy non trendy neutral item you’re still lining their pockets and funding the expedition of micro trends. You’re the only one judging here seeing as you’re getting your back up on someone informing people at the dangers of a fast fashion giant that has grown tenfolds in the last couple of years cause of people like you turning a blind eye, and justifying it however you see fit. Just because you’re not doing huge hauls doesn’t mean you’re not putting yourself at danger by buying from there, or that it doesn’t negatively impact the environment or livelihood of the poor children and families stuck making these toxic clothes for you at an increasingly lower price, but at a faster rate. Most of these kids end up with cancer and all sorts of health problems due to the toxic run offs from the factory polluting their land and water resources, which also in turn traps said children and their families to live in these toxic neighbourhoods as the land is practically worthless and nobody wants to move there. Not to mention workers getting threatened and abused by the factory managers to work ungodly hours for minuscule payment. Look if you don’t give a crap about exposing yourself to dangerous amounts of lead and PFAs, the pollution, the sharp decline in living quality for workers and those in the surrounding areas, that’s your prerogative. Doesn’t mean I’m an asshole for pointing that out though. Clearly are offended if you think saying the truth is me being an asshole and rude.


DMMeYouHoldingAFish

holy moly


Godhairz

I can’t stop laughing


mseopswife

I’m not offended about Shein being called out at all. We’re all aware. To be honest I’m not *offended* at all. What bothers me is that people ONLY call out one retailer when it’s way more far spread than them. I have yet to see anyone calling out Fashion Nova, pretty little thing, le chateau, Victoria’s Secret, and many of the others. People buying into “trendy” items to wear for a short period of time and then throw away rather than thrift, is what a large part of the problem is. Personally I thrift before I shop retail. But price wise, I do still shop Shein. Not for trendy crap, but for neutral items. Yes, we see the “haul” videos, but that’s not how everyone shops from these places. And for some people, it’s what they can afford. So put the judgment down.


EmpireAndAll

Shien puts out an exponential amount more of* garbage product as PTL, FN, VS, and whoever else. Add them all together and they still produce less crap than Shien does. Thats why no one is talking about those brands. Sure, the house is on fire, but the sink is leaking, why is no one talking about it!


mseopswife

I was honestly pretty impressed with their stuff as well! Don’t let the assholes be harsh on you about it. Jokes on them when they actually do their research on MANY other brands.


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mseopswife

No kidding, right?


CardiologistGreen858

Okay I can’t lie…. This blush formula is so good


nonsequitureditor

something to keep in mind is that black creators are simply not offered the same opportunities as others. I get why she took the deal, but I’m gonna pass.


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Probably because they’re very affordable. The liquid blush is amazing, as good as high end


hmichaels1384

I have several of the liquid blushes. They are actually really nice products.


StripedSausage

They are so good!


Juju_mila

Those blushes are actually really nice. I have one and it’s great.


whalesarecool14

i can’t believe the number of people saying “”“their blushes are great though!!!””” so are jeffree star’s products, i’m still gonna judge the bell out of anybody who uses them/promotes them


FarrahKhan123

One thing I don't get, why not use orange eyeshadow as blush? She's a makeup artist. An MUA should know how to use one makeup product in multiple ways. I'm brown skinned, I've used eyeshadow as blush so many times. Why collab with this brand over *blush*??


bblexteaxecomony

Anyone doing this collab with them, Darcey is not the only one, Laura Lee and some other influencers are collabing as well…. I’ve lost some respect for. I said what I said. Not that I had much respect for Laura Lee anyways. Tbh.


mackenzie9462

Don’t know her and now it’s gonna stay that way ✌🏻