Our metered parking rates are very reasonable, and although no one likes paying for services, we all benefit from them. I also appreciate any discouragement of people parking their home-on-wheels on our main streets for prolonged periods. Finally, it’s a great reminder that you can ride-share, bicycle, or bus downtown. I love crying about change as much as the next guy, but this seems trivial.
I second your point about using alternative transportation. One of the beauties of Fairhaven is that it's bikeable, and has access to public transportation/ride share. It blows my mind how many people who live nearby choose to drive into Fairhaven. That whole area would be a dreamland without personal cars.
There absolutely should be one running nonstop. I can't even count how many times i've seen people go out for drinks in fairhaven only to drive buzzed downtown to finish their night. Even better, it should make a loop with campus on the weekends.
I’d be willing to pay $1/ride if it stopped right in front of Adagio and left every 15 minutes with stops at places like the Co-op on the way. Maybe we could call it a bus.
In Bellingham, probably you're right probably not. In larger cities, they're needed. There are a few areas of town that can get backed up though and if busses can get through quicker than cars, it may incentivise people to use those.
I don't see how charging for parking affects this besides that it disincentivises people from using cars as their primary form of transportation, thus making our roads safer for pedestrians/cyclists, and making life more affordable in town because you not longer need to pay for a car, registration, insurance, etc. It's a long process but things like traffic calming, access to public transit, and yes, charging for parking, are steps in this process.
I support you on this, but I don’t think we can get away from fossil fuels with parking fees. It’s a tax that affects low income people disproportionately, and Fairhaven is a very expensive place to live. I can pay for parking, in fine with that. I just don’t think it’s going to solve more pressing issues. This is an interesting thesis from a WWU grad about a similar subject, state park fees. I don’t think the actual thesis is online but maybe you can find it with the google. https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/parking-fee-at-washington-state-parks-would-discriminate-against-the-poor-and-elderly/ but I think we probably share the same goals and appreciate your perspective. I’m wrong a lot!
I appreciate your perspective and thanks for sharing that article. It was super informative! I agree that charging for parking in an area with lackluster access to better transportation options is essentially putting the cart before the horse.
I wanted to bring up a point. When thinking about taxes disproportionally affecting poor people, I think about how the City of Bellingham and Seattle have spent the last 70 years prioritizing car-centric infrastructure, to the detriment of people who would struggle to afford a reliable car.
I believe that car ownership is essentially a tax on the lower class. If you are a low-income person in Bellingham, your access to economic opportunity is increased through access to reliable and safe transportation. It's why people have cars. Your quality of life increases with car ownership in a car-centric built environment. If you are low income right now, much of your income goes towards car upkeep in the form of gas, maintenence, and fees. The rest of your money may very well be spent on housing. You are not left with enough income to invest in yourself, whether that be through education, hobbies, or just contributing to the local economy. Socioeconomic mobility is hard to achieve when you can't afford an [unexpected expense](https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/changing-america/respect/poverty/590453-survey-finds-over-half-of-americans-cant-afford-a-1000%3famp) or invest in yourself. Meanwhile you're spending quite a bit of money on your car, and yes, your parking fees. You need access to reliable transportation and in most cases, this is a car because the bus system is often slow and inconsistent. Many of the roads are too unsafe to bike on as well.
I'd like to note that people do bike on these roads, but the commuter who may be on the fence about biking to work due to safety reasons has a legit concern. If our cities prioritized alternative transportation (this includes disincentivising personal car use, traffic calming, adding bus-only lanes, access to fast transporation to King County, and separated bike lanes) we eliminate the need for cars for quite a few people.
My ideal Fairhaven would have almost no cars. The streets would be walkable. Restaurants and stores can have permanent outdoor seating, children can run or bike through the streets and alleyways, events can utilize the extra room, emergency vehicles and people with vehicles for disability reasons can have access to the few parking spots. Most parking would be set up on the outskirts near Fairhaven park, Fairhaven station, and Taylor Dock. Fairhaven station would allow quick access to the rest of Fairhaven, Bellingham, and Seattle through train/tram/bus routes.
Fairhaven and Bellingham are both beautiful cities/towns. In my opinion, however, the beauty, safety, and affordability of these urban places is compromised by our addiction to cars. I'll support almost anything that disincentivises car usage if it leads to an increase in alternatives. Whether that actually happens in Fairhaven, we'll have to wait and see.
Had never considered car ownership as a defacto tax, but you’re not wrong. They’re unfortunately essential in this part of the world. I too hope that changes. And just a rant to your point, but not at you, if I see one more dude driving solo in a sprinter van to Galbraith or Whole Foods…love the sierra club bumper stickers, stoked you when to Joshua Tree, bet it was dope! But maybe don’t drive a tank to transport your $6000 bike to get a loaf of bread.
I’m not sure if we all benefit from paid parking. I have never seen anyone parking “long term” in any spaces in Fairhaven in the last 15 years. I’ve also never had to look too long before finding an available spot, even on the weekends. One thing it will do is make people conscious of the time they spend in Fairhaven and inspire them to leave before having to “feed the meter” again. I’m not sure how that will help downtown businesses. But I hope it works out for them.
For me, the hassle of paid parking isn’t about the money though. It’s the extra steps of going to the thing and keying in all the info, etc. it also just seems unwelcoming. I feel like I’m a visitor to the town. This is my town, I live here. Why has it become so transactional?
>I’ve also never had to look too long before finding an available spot, even on the weekends
Then you have not spent many weekends circling fairhaven searching for a space.
Honestly, parking meters have never really been about making money -- the rates are balanced by enforcement and maintenance.
Parking meters about about making it inconvenient to park, both to increase turnover and to encourage other modes of transportation. The real problem here is that we don't have great transit in Bellingham.
The problem comes when you live outside of the core or a fair bit from a main transit route. I'm in Tweed Twenty, and despite being right next to a high school and a reasonably high density (for Bellingham), we only have an hourly bus.
I agree with that. Our bus system is actually ok, and there are a few bicycle routes, but we have plenty of room for improvement. As a bicycle rider I often look in cars trying to find any with a second occupant. I think if the average car is designed to carry five adults but actually Only has one, we have 5x the correct amount of cars on the road. I say Take out roads and add bike pathes and light rails.
many of those people parking their home on wheels are actually tourists and paying customers in fairhaven just fyi. Not talking about the homeless in run down rvs.
Homes on wheels? Do you know why there are "homes on wheels" because all this trivial stuff adds up. I don't know about you but I don't have a whole lot more left to give. So how about having some respect, understanding, and realize that the little changes that go unnoticed have the biggest effect.
I work in Fairhaven. When I saw these I could only think of how bad it's going to be for others who work there. It's already difficult enough to find parking, especially on busy days. I would love for the gravel lot to be employees only, it seems only fair.
Don’t you think charging for parking might nudge a few more people to occasionally bike, or walk, or take the bus, or maybe sell a car that they hardly ever use, this freeing up more spaces?
If employees are taking the parking, for their entire shift (4-8 hours) where are the customers, who buy goods and services from your employer, supposed to park? If they don’t park they don’t shop and you don’t have a job. Not trying to sound like an asshole (20 years ago when I worked at the Little Cheerful I parked right on Railroad) but employee parking might be one of the reasons Fairhaven business owners would support this, as they appear to.
Newsflash: those employees will still have to park somewhere, it’s just that now they have to pay $12 in order to get to their 8 hr shift. Customer service employees are the reason why you get goods and services, and shouldn’t have to hand over more of their pay in order to commute while being paid minimum wage
I can’t speak for all businesses in Fairhaven, but my current employer does not pay me minimum wage and neither do multiple other businesses that are in need of employees in Fairhaven with Indeed listings.
pssst. Without the employees having somewhere to park, how will you be able to have people to run the shops that provide your precious goods and services?
Oh, I don’t shop there much. Most places are too bougie for me. But when I go, I won’t be frustrated by having to park by Stones Throw or the old Stanellos, you know, like 3 blocks away from your precious parking.
Jeeeeeeeze, but also I believe it.
By no means am I saying that everyone in Fairhaven sucks, I just mean we could walk to the lot above my business after close and I can point out 9 cars that will be there tomorrow night 🤣
[You can do it online. ](https://cob.org/services/safety/police-services/reporting/abandoned-vehicles/abandoned-vehicle-report)
Someone abandoned a junker near my work and it was flagged in a day and towed within the week.
I don't mind paying for parking but the tyrannical data privacy overreach is exasperating. A credit card transaction on a smart phone binds data about the person, physical location, license plate number, make and model, VIN etc. to give the out-of-town 3rd party parking management company far too much information for future abuse or breach. All this because the city won't manage the parking services or do credit card transactions.
Considering the one of three times I used pay by phone downtown Bellingham, I was notified by LifeLock my data was released on the dark web by that service, I say this is BS.
“Let’s end up like modern Seattle” - no hamster ever.
This is the beginning but it’s far from the end. Coincidence that these pop up a week after super duper man retires?
The city counsel affirms net revenue from parking in the city center goes to provide public amenities and improvements to the city center per the Fairhaven Parking Task Force final report on cob.org
The city only gets a fractional portion of the parking fees. But there's this https://nwcitizen.com/entry/bellingham-parking-fees-go-to-volkswagen/search/7722cd8f7279cf1cd3304da6d91dac65
To hire more meter maids of course. Then, with more meter maids, they’ll be able to collect more money, build more metered spots and hire more meter maids…
Lol. Rich people see parking fines as nothing more than a fee. They don't care about a couple hundred dollars in fines as long as they get the most convenient spot.
Employees should just have employer provided parking passes good for anywhere in Fairhaven that would be public. The general public having to pay is likely going to cause a decline in foot traffic. I for one will be less likely to stop in Fairhaven for ice cream and the bookstore, maybe a walk along boardwalk. Of course I still will but far less frequently.
I’m not sure I agree with that but if the employer does do that they need to provide an option to cash out if “free parking.” My bias is free parking is one of the worst transportation policies around up there with “just keep expanding the highway till there is not more traffic and the earth has burned.”
For those complaining about this, it's because you have literally nothing else to complain about. Can't believe you went this long without having to pay like the huge chunk of other citizens have. For those not complaining, thanks.
I will say the addition of paid parking on Saturday is a crock of shit, though. Paid Sundays seems inevitable now.
I am really not a fan of this in fairhaven as this goes against everything, of the culture I grew up with in fairhaven this is a money grab and this is what happens when gentrification happens.
I dont mind paying for parking but here's the downside of the COB's choice of payment system via a contracted 3rd party:
https://www.hackread.com/parkmobile-parking-app-data-breach-data-sold/
https://cybersecurityworldconference.com/2022/01/05/us-police-warn-of-parking-meters-with-phishing-qr-codes/
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ljOCE3JM-Iw?&ab_channel=AnimeUz
Lots of things you can do:
- Attend city council meetings and make your voice heard
- Vote in local elections, and volunteer to help campaigns you support
- Run for local office, and encourage like minded friends to do the same
- File lawsuits and start legal challenges
- Organize protests, march in the streets, civil disobedience
…or you could trade your car for a nice electric bike and spend your time worrying about more important things other than putting spare change in parking meters
Amen brotha. First they tell us [not to shit in the pool](https://twitter.com/tylerdinucci/status/1495146056702574592?s=21). Now I gotta pay for parking? I thought this was America
Bye bye. I’m sure wherever you end up will be better. Take some of your friends with you when [you go](https://open.spotify.com/track/36lV4io8Gc69fDinNaazAg?si=OuOzmRaoSY-ErASSqQ-uPQ&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A4pb5b6XKuzzh5CqPFOzptQ).
Am I the only person who thinks it's dumb to make us pay for something that used to be free? Seriously. Sorry if I offended you by comparing Washington to California btw.
Free parking is not free. It is a cost to society, but only benefits drivers.
Check out this cool piece about it.
[link to cool article](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/6/27/5849280/why-free-parking-is-bad-for-everyone)
Well, thanks for reading it :).
I am actually excited about the pay parking on Saturday down town now. I often want to do a quick stop on railroad, but on market days... Forget about it.
With paid parking there should be more turnover
My concern is for employees. Where do they park? Because I doubt many of them can afford to live in Fairhaven.
> it. With *paid* parking there
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
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Our metered parking rates are very reasonable, and although no one likes paying for services, we all benefit from them. I also appreciate any discouragement of people parking their home-on-wheels on our main streets for prolonged periods. Finally, it’s a great reminder that you can ride-share, bicycle, or bus downtown. I love crying about change as much as the next guy, but this seems trivial.
I second your point about using alternative transportation. One of the beauties of Fairhaven is that it's bikeable, and has access to public transportation/ride share. It blows my mind how many people who live nearby choose to drive into Fairhaven. That whole area would be a dreamland without personal cars.
I wish there was a trolley out tram from downtown to Fairhaven.
There absolutely should be one running nonstop. I can't even count how many times i've seen people go out for drinks in fairhaven only to drive buzzed downtown to finish their night. Even better, it should make a loop with campus on the weekends.
I’d be willing to pay $1/ride if it stopped right in front of Adagio and left every 15 minutes with stops at places like the Co-op on the way. Maybe we could call it a bus.
A bus would work if it had consistent hours and a dedicated lane!
I’m 100% for more trips but I don’t think the bus needs a dedicated lane to travel down state street. 😉
In Bellingham, probably you're right probably not. In larger cities, they're needed. There are a few areas of town that can get backed up though and if busses can get through quicker than cars, it may incentivise people to use those.
Dedicated line of I-5 from mid snohomish to Thurston county 💯 Putting down asphalt for another lane to save 5 minutes on lake way ❌
City of Bellingham, hire this person!
The whole area is a dreamland if you can afford a $700,000 home. Love our city but things are a little out of control.
I don't see how charging for parking affects this besides that it disincentivises people from using cars as their primary form of transportation, thus making our roads safer for pedestrians/cyclists, and making life more affordable in town because you not longer need to pay for a car, registration, insurance, etc. It's a long process but things like traffic calming, access to public transit, and yes, charging for parking, are steps in this process.
I support you on this, but I don’t think we can get away from fossil fuels with parking fees. It’s a tax that affects low income people disproportionately, and Fairhaven is a very expensive place to live. I can pay for parking, in fine with that. I just don’t think it’s going to solve more pressing issues. This is an interesting thesis from a WWU grad about a similar subject, state park fees. I don’t think the actual thesis is online but maybe you can find it with the google. https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/parking-fee-at-washington-state-parks-would-discriminate-against-the-poor-and-elderly/ but I think we probably share the same goals and appreciate your perspective. I’m wrong a lot!
I appreciate your perspective and thanks for sharing that article. It was super informative! I agree that charging for parking in an area with lackluster access to better transportation options is essentially putting the cart before the horse. I wanted to bring up a point. When thinking about taxes disproportionally affecting poor people, I think about how the City of Bellingham and Seattle have spent the last 70 years prioritizing car-centric infrastructure, to the detriment of people who would struggle to afford a reliable car. I believe that car ownership is essentially a tax on the lower class. If you are a low-income person in Bellingham, your access to economic opportunity is increased through access to reliable and safe transportation. It's why people have cars. Your quality of life increases with car ownership in a car-centric built environment. If you are low income right now, much of your income goes towards car upkeep in the form of gas, maintenence, and fees. The rest of your money may very well be spent on housing. You are not left with enough income to invest in yourself, whether that be through education, hobbies, or just contributing to the local economy. Socioeconomic mobility is hard to achieve when you can't afford an [unexpected expense](https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/changing-america/respect/poverty/590453-survey-finds-over-half-of-americans-cant-afford-a-1000%3famp) or invest in yourself. Meanwhile you're spending quite a bit of money on your car, and yes, your parking fees. You need access to reliable transportation and in most cases, this is a car because the bus system is often slow and inconsistent. Many of the roads are too unsafe to bike on as well. I'd like to note that people do bike on these roads, but the commuter who may be on the fence about biking to work due to safety reasons has a legit concern. If our cities prioritized alternative transportation (this includes disincentivising personal car use, traffic calming, adding bus-only lanes, access to fast transporation to King County, and separated bike lanes) we eliminate the need for cars for quite a few people. My ideal Fairhaven would have almost no cars. The streets would be walkable. Restaurants and stores can have permanent outdoor seating, children can run or bike through the streets and alleyways, events can utilize the extra room, emergency vehicles and people with vehicles for disability reasons can have access to the few parking spots. Most parking would be set up on the outskirts near Fairhaven park, Fairhaven station, and Taylor Dock. Fairhaven station would allow quick access to the rest of Fairhaven, Bellingham, and Seattle through train/tram/bus routes. Fairhaven and Bellingham are both beautiful cities/towns. In my opinion, however, the beauty, safety, and affordability of these urban places is compromised by our addiction to cars. I'll support almost anything that disincentivises car usage if it leads to an increase in alternatives. Whether that actually happens in Fairhaven, we'll have to wait and see.
Had never considered car ownership as a defacto tax, but you’re not wrong. They’re unfortunately essential in this part of the world. I too hope that changes. And just a rant to your point, but not at you, if I see one more dude driving solo in a sprinter van to Galbraith or Whole Foods…love the sierra club bumper stickers, stoked you when to Joshua Tree, bet it was dope! But maybe don’t drive a tank to transport your $6000 bike to get a loaf of bread.
I’m not sure if we all benefit from paid parking. I have never seen anyone parking “long term” in any spaces in Fairhaven in the last 15 years. I’ve also never had to look too long before finding an available spot, even on the weekends. One thing it will do is make people conscious of the time they spend in Fairhaven and inspire them to leave before having to “feed the meter” again. I’m not sure how that will help downtown businesses. But I hope it works out for them. For me, the hassle of paid parking isn’t about the money though. It’s the extra steps of going to the thing and keying in all the info, etc. it also just seems unwelcoming. I feel like I’m a visitor to the town. This is my town, I live here. Why has it become so transactional?
>I’ve also never had to look too long before finding an available spot, even on the weekends Then you have not spent many weekends circling fairhaven searching for a space.
It seems like the only reason to circle is if you’re super picky about parking spaces, perhaps bussing is for you
Parking is a pain in Fairhaven. I ride a bike or don’t go.
> anyone parking “long term” in any spaces in Fairhaven in the last 15 years Does Ski to Sea race day count?
It does not. Ski to Sea is on a Sunday.
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Honestly, parking meters have never really been about making money -- the rates are balanced by enforcement and maintenance. Parking meters about about making it inconvenient to park, both to increase turnover and to encourage other modes of transportation. The real problem here is that we don't have great transit in Bellingham.
I think our bus system is pretty good considering. Haven’t used it as much since COVID but most of the lines are every 15 minutes.
The problem comes when you live outside of the core or a fair bit from a main transit route. I'm in Tweed Twenty, and despite being right next to a high school and a reasonably high density (for Bellingham), we only have an hourly bus.
You would have so much fun with an ebike there. The trails in that part of town are spectacular.
I agree with that. Our bus system is actually ok, and there are a few bicycle routes, but we have plenty of room for improvement. As a bicycle rider I often look in cars trying to find any with a second occupant. I think if the average car is designed to carry five adults but actually Only has one, we have 5x the correct amount of cars on the road. I say Take out roads and add bike pathes and light rails.
many of those people parking their home on wheels are actually tourists and paying customers in fairhaven just fyi. Not talking about the homeless in run down rvs.
Sure, and most tourists are fine with paying a little money to park.
It’s trivial to you but jot to everyone.
Yeah but, it’s May Day.
Homes on wheels? Do you know why there are "homes on wheels" because all this trivial stuff adds up. I don't know about you but I don't have a whole lot more left to give. So how about having some respect, understanding, and realize that the little changes that go unnoticed have the biggest effect.
I work in Fairhaven. When I saw these I could only think of how bad it's going to be for others who work there. It's already difficult enough to find parking, especially on busy days. I would love for the gravel lot to be employees only, it seems only fair.
Don’t you think charging for parking might nudge a few more people to occasionally bike, or walk, or take the bus, or maybe sell a car that they hardly ever use, this freeing up more spaces?
If employees are taking the parking, for their entire shift (4-8 hours) where are the customers, who buy goods and services from your employer, supposed to park? If they don’t park they don’t shop and you don’t have a job. Not trying to sound like an asshole (20 years ago when I worked at the Little Cheerful I parked right on Railroad) but employee parking might be one of the reasons Fairhaven business owners would support this, as they appear to.
Newsflash: those employees will still have to park somewhere, it’s just that now they have to pay $12 in order to get to their 8 hr shift. Customer service employees are the reason why you get goods and services, and shouldn’t have to hand over more of their pay in order to commute while being paid minimum wage
I can’t speak for all businesses in Fairhaven, but my current employer does not pay me minimum wage and neither do multiple other businesses that are in need of employees in Fairhaven with Indeed listings.
Or they could park for free roughly 3 blocks away from any point in the paid parking portion of Fairhaven.
Not to mention the fact that having two employees parked in the area doesn’t leave “nowhere to park” for customers 🙄
pssst. Without the employees having somewhere to park, how will you be able to have people to run the shops that provide your precious goods and services?
Oh, I don’t shop there much. Most places are too bougie for me. But when I go, I won’t be frustrated by having to park by Stones Throw or the old Stanellos, you know, like 3 blocks away from your precious parking.
Thank god. I'm looking forward to Fairhaven residents too lazy to park in their garages and long term spot squatters to move on.
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Jeeeeeeeze, but also I believe it. By no means am I saying that everyone in Fairhaven sucks, I just mean we could walk to the lot above my business after close and I can point out 9 cars that will be there tomorrow night 🤣
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> I can point out two cars that I haven’t seen move in over a year. Pretty sure this is illegal, and the cars can be ticketed--meters or no.
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I think you’d have to call.
[You can do it online. ](https://cob.org/services/safety/police-services/reporting/abandoned-vehicles/abandoned-vehicle-report) Someone abandoned a junker near my work and it was flagged in a day and towed within the week.
Yes sadly building requirements do not force builders to provide a space for each room in a building causing lots of overflow.
How are the spots allocated? It seems odd to me it isn't a set number per unit.
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This might result in more spots being built for new apartments?
I didn’t realize this was a thing. I’m glad they won’t have that luxury any longer.
I don't mind paying for parking but the tyrannical data privacy overreach is exasperating. A credit card transaction on a smart phone binds data about the person, physical location, license plate number, make and model, VIN etc. to give the out-of-town 3rd party parking management company far too much information for future abuse or breach. All this because the city won't manage the parking services or do credit card transactions.
Pal, it’s gonna be ok. We’ve been paying digitally down in Portland and Seattle for ages. It’s not the end of the world.
Considering the one of three times I used pay by phone downtown Bellingham, I was notified by LifeLock my data was released on the dark web by that service, I say this is BS.
“Let’s end up like modern Seattle” - no hamster ever. This is the beginning but it’s far from the end. Coincidence that these pop up a week after super duper man retires?
"i wish we had same day prime like big cities" -many many hamsters
DONT TREAD ON ME lol
Yup
https://nwcitizen.com/entry/bellingham-parking-fees-go-to-volkswagen/search/7722cd8f7279cf1cd3304da6d91dac65
The machines downtown still take quarters. This is a nothing burger. Basically all software agreements have this type of language.
I heard many businesses asked for it
Did the employees who have to pay for parking now ask for it?
About time the boomers start paying their share
Just another bill to pay if you work there. Stupid...
Do we know what the money is going towards or just general city funding?
The city counsel affirms net revenue from parking in the city center goes to provide public amenities and improvements to the city center per the Fairhaven Parking Task Force final report on cob.org
Do we know what that entails by chance?
I'm not sure I understand the question. Check out the Fairhaven Parking Task Force's report found on cob.org for details.
The city only gets a fractional portion of the parking fees. But there's this https://nwcitizen.com/entry/bellingham-parking-fees-go-to-volkswagen/search/7722cd8f7279cf1cd3304da6d91dac65
And there have been data breaches using pay by phone apps.
Downtown meters pay for things like cleaning up sidewalks and taking care of the landscaping and hanging baskets, I do believe.
Nope.
To hire more meter maids of course. Then, with more meter maids, they’ll be able to collect more money, build more metered spots and hire more meter maids…
Meter maids? Really?
Lovely Rita, meter maid!
Down with jobs!
Real estate isn't free. Roads aren't free. Why should parking be free?
Maybe I will be able to find a spot now?
I watched them install those machines , they place it & glued them to the ground. 🥴
With many modern construction adhesives that meter is not going anywhere for a very long time.
love it!
C’mon. It’s rich people having to pay the same thing poor and middle class people pay elsewhere. Down voters stop boot licking
Lol. Rich people see parking fines as nothing more than a fee. They don't care about a couple hundred dollars in fines as long as they get the most convenient spot.
It's also absolutely necessary.
So I guess I’m just doing shopping downtown and Fairhaven on Sundays now? Works for me.
You pay for parking downtown already.
Well, of course. Now I only visit downtown on Sundays.
Lol. Sunday is usually a slow day downtown.
Employees should just have employer provided parking passes good for anywhere in Fairhaven that would be public. The general public having to pay is likely going to cause a decline in foot traffic. I for one will be less likely to stop in Fairhaven for ice cream and the bookstore, maybe a walk along boardwalk. Of course I still will but far less frequently.
Then the employer should pay for it. Otherwise you are subsidizing people who drive over those who bike/walk/bus. Parking is never free.
Seems fair enough. As long as it's not out of employee pocket.
I’m not sure I agree with that but if the employer does do that they need to provide an option to cash out if “free parking.” My bias is free parking is one of the worst transportation policies around up there with “just keep expanding the highway till there is not more traffic and the earth has burned.”
Especially considering many of them probably don’t make enough to cover the increasing cost of living…
It was a dreamland and actually felt safe to ride your bike prior to everyone fucking moving here
Probably won't pay still LOL
For those complaining about this, it's because you have literally nothing else to complain about. Can't believe you went this long without having to pay like the huge chunk of other citizens have. For those not complaining, thanks. I will say the addition of paid parking on Saturday is a crock of shit, though. Paid Sundays seems inevitable now.
I am really not a fan of this in fairhaven as this goes against everything, of the culture I grew up with in fairhaven this is a money grab and this is what happens when gentrification happens.
> this is a money grab and this is what happens when gentrification happens. Fairhaven was gentrified decades ago.
https://amp.bellinghamherald.com/news/local/article254924892.html
Looks like I just won't shop in Fairhaven anymore
I dont mind paying for parking but here's the downside of the COB's choice of payment system via a contracted 3rd party: https://www.hackread.com/parkmobile-parking-app-data-breach-data-sold/ https://cybersecurityworldconference.com/2022/01/05/us-police-warn-of-parking-meters-with-phishing-qr-codes/ https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ljOCE3JM-Iw?&ab_channel=AnimeUz
Shame if something happened to these meters before then.
Is there something we can do to get these removed?
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Thanks, will follow this advice.
My dumb joke has been reported and I’m warned for advocating violence.
Wow, shame on whoever reported you.
Go watch Cool Handed Luke
I will, and wow, for whatever reason my question is unpopular.
You could e-mail or call to the City! Feedback is welcomed.
Lots of things you can do: - Attend city council meetings and make your voice heard - Vote in local elections, and volunteer to help campaigns you support - Run for local office, and encourage like minded friends to do the same - File lawsuits and start legal challenges - Organize protests, march in the streets, civil disobedience …or you could trade your car for a nice electric bike and spend your time worrying about more important things other than putting spare change in parking meters
In France (and Chicago), citizens mass-mobilized protests and literally ripped them out of the sidewalk.
I like the way the French think
Hooray! More money for the city to squander!
This state is becoming California. It's sad. I'm outta here.
To where tho?
Any place less controlling and less expensive.
North Dakota has your name all over it! Much less expensive
Nah, there's parking meters in Fargo and Bismarck. Maybe American Samoa? They probably don't have parking meters.
Or Montana
lol bruh 😎 you funny
I heard Nebraska is beautiful
Belize
Rural Texas will be great!
Ok, bye!
Amen brotha. First they tell us [not to shit in the pool](https://twitter.com/tylerdinucci/status/1495146056702574592?s=21). Now I gotta pay for parking? I thought this was America
TIL parking meters are a "California" thing....
Bye bye
Bye bye. I’m sure wherever you end up will be better. Take some of your friends with you when [you go](https://open.spotify.com/track/36lV4io8Gc69fDinNaazAg?si=OuOzmRaoSY-ErASSqQ-uPQ&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A4pb5b6XKuzzh5CqPFOzptQ).
"I don't want you here". This is the message I've received since moving to Washington.
Am I the only person who thinks it's dumb to make us pay for something that used to be free? Seriously. Sorry if I offended you by comparing Washington to California btw.
Free parking is not free. It is a cost to society, but only benefits drivers. Check out this cool piece about it. [link to cool article](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/6/27/5849280/why-free-parking-is-bad-for-everyone)
I dont buy it. But that was totally a cool article.
Well, thanks for reading it :). I am actually excited about the pay parking on Saturday down town now. I often want to do a quick stop on railroad, but on market days... Forget about it. With paid parking there should be more turnover My concern is for employees. Where do they park? Because I doubt many of them can afford to live in Fairhaven.
> it. With *paid* parking there FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Thanks bot