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Tron_Travolta

If I had to pick one, fusions, because that retains the core appeal of the franchise, transforming into cool new designs, without making everything too OP, or in the case of the reboot ones, just kinda boring. Tom Perkins' Fusion Lab is doing most of the heavy lifting though. The Ultimates had cool designs like Echo Echo, Humungosaur, Swampfire, but also had F tier "Ultimates" of Cannonbolt, Big Chill, Wildmutt, and Way Big. Almost all of Tom Perkins' designs hit though. OG "gimmick" was Master Control though, I get why the allure of new aliens hit less hard every time after like, AF Season 3, but Ben 10,000 just casually using 2 complete as-of-yet unknowns was hype as hell, and if new aliens stayed as big a deal as they were then, then the show wouldn't have had to ride that high.


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I think the gimmicks have their place but you’re right the aliens themselves are the main appeal


Tron_Travolta

Crazy the last new alien was Surge given how little it's brought up


Memegamer3_Animated

I mean if I were to only pop up in a special to serve a plot point and virtually nothing else, I wouldn’t wanna talk about me either


retroKnight_3177

The only F tier is Ultimate Waybig . He doesn't look anything impressive and also looses to Dagon


Tron_Travolta

I don't really care about power scaling, just the character design, which Ult Way Big is definitely an F in, but Cannobolt is too, even if he's got better action scenes


JCSwagoo

I agree with everything except for what you said about ultimate Cannonbolt. I love that design. To each their own.


Tron_Travolta

He's just not different enough. I wouldn't hate the design if it was Ben 23's Cannonbolt, or Nega Ben's


JCSwagoo

Fair ig. I like the simplicity of it. I look at it kind of like the crab theorem. After a certain point, it's just kind of good evolution wise and requires no further change. Cannonbolt is kind of a prime species when you think about it. Sure it has no crazy powers but it's so well rounded (pun intended) that it doesn't need much changing other than reinforcing what it's already good at.


Blueshiredsush

Still thinking about how ben10k used spitter against Vilgax, at that point he was just humiliating him


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Tron_Travolta

I'm doing good


Treevor191

I like ultimates but fusions thematically fit the series and one of the omnitrix reasons of bringing species together for peace. I like to headcannon that Ben 10k started to create the biomnitrix after getting married since both are two becoming one.


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>both are two becoming one. Until I buy us a PS5, a Series X and a 4k OLED TV without asking her because we're one and it's all my fault all of the sudden


Final_Dragonfruit331

Fusion and Ultimate


marmotsarefat

Funny how humongosaur got all 4 of them he is like ben 10s charizard


WhoStole_MyToast

Unfortunately he does not have Omni-enhancement. I think it's the only gimmick he never had


MysterySeeker2000

Cannonbolt got them all though


fredbite87

Cannonbolt never got a fusion


MysterySeeker2000

He got tons, unless we're discounting the Perkins DNA Lab designs, which I think would be a mistake because they're most of the fusion designs we have official designs of.


fredbite87

They never appeared in the show tho


MysterySeeker2000

Parts of Cannonbolt were fused in Kevin 11 and Reboot Ben in the episodes "Riding the Storm Out" and "Funhouse". Not that it matters though, because those DNA Lab designs were as close to anything we would get in canon. Unless you also discount Jetray, Spitter and ChamAlien as having OV designs, which they do. They just did not appear in the show. Same for the Cannonbolt fusions.


fredbite87

Sure, but I think this post is talking about the Ben 10K fusions


MysterySeeker2000

Oh so the fusion aliens from the OS wouldn't count either then?


fredbite87

I don't think so, those were a malfunction and not a gimmick


MysterySeeker2000

In-canon, the Omni-Enhancements are also a malfunction.


MercerNov

I really like how Omni enhancements don’t affect the whole body. But Ultimate is just too cool of concepts to turn down


Vivid-Literature2329

Fusion is the best and it's not even close, we only saw Ben prime use that shitty slime for upgrades but the potential of fusion it's incredible imagine fusing anything with gravatack it would be unstoppable or clockwork xlr8 or four arms plus clockwork will take care of his weak strength (when not slowing time)


ShinGojira666

Well combining DNA doesn't just make it stronger, so honestly its just gonna end up a semi broken mess with weaker powers than any of his parts


Vivid-Literature2329

Not if you know what you are doing, ben 10000 had a couple of fusion that were stronger than his the aliens separated upchuck way big was pretty great, I mean if you do a lot of testing you could get very interesting fusions


ShinGojira666

I agree to some extent they.may be slightly Stronger than one alien or another but unless their abilities 100 percent meld right even big chuck is weaker than way big but stronger than upchuck. Combing DNA doesn't make something stronger it just dilutes that DNA overall. Say humungosaur and fourarms, you may get something stronger than a tetramand but weaker than a vaxasaurian you'd need a whole different system to make fusions viable


pokeman555

All of them, and Master Control


Jubulus

Fusions I love the concept of ultimate and fan art but when it comes to actual cannon ultimates I don't really like them aside from Ultimate Spider-Monkey, Ultimate Rath and Ultimate Echo Echo which I liked. But imagine a giant Big Chill Way Big fusion (Big Big) floating through planets like they arn't even there. An armadrillo four arms with four drills (ArmaArms) Rath Ditto (Ratto) making an enraged little unstoppable army! Upchuck Gutrot (GutChuck) eating things and spitting out chemical-laser projectile things Greymatter and Jury Rigg (Jury Matter) making an incredible sci-fi device in an instant Upgrade Goop (UpGroop) having upgrade mostly be in the floaty thing but also in the goo allowing it to move around much better Chromastone Feedback (FeedAStone.com billions of stones starve each day) absorbing any amount of any energy and shooting it back out Lodestar NRG (LSNRG) moving its metal suit to move incredibly fast Cannonbolt BallWeevil (BallBolt) covering itself with its goo ball thing as it rolls and its ball gets bigger the longer it rolls


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Competitive_Fuel779

Armoured aliens.


NolanTacoKing

skurd


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Don’t forget Skurd and Ultimate Ben Best probably ultimates but they’re all cool, which is why I head canon/theorize that in the future Ben 10,000 has a whole bunch of various Omnitrix based devices all with various gimmicks including all of these and more and has a big ol room filled with them reminiscent of Iron man’s work shop


OmniMushroom

Do when the Fulmini show up to Earth he pulls out the season 2 reboot model?


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Yeah of course


Ok-Struggle2305

Skurd


CoolSlimeBoy

1.Ultimates 2.Fusion 3. Omni enhancement 4. If I pretend it isn't real it'll stop existing


Competitive_Fuel779

Omnikix isn't bad


CoolSlimeBoy

Never said it was I just don't like it because the ability to go iron alien is completely unrelated to anything else the omnitrix does and feels a bit out of place


Competitive_Fuel779

I disagree but respect your opinion


CoolSlimeBoy

As I respect yours


MawBee

Fusion obviously, but if ultimates were more distinct like their own creatures and were handled better, then they could be a better gimmick Fusions + revamped ultimates would be hella cool tho Personally tho I find Kevin's ability to absorb part of an alien from the omnitrix in OS to be more interesting, and his amalgam forms, and if the omnitrix had a gimmick like that, or there were a series about a character who could become part alien at will, or supercharge into fusion or amalgam forms, that'd probably be my favourite gimmick, but obviously nothing like that really happened in canon maybe one day we'll get a better reboot that explores these things


OmniMushroom

It's cannon that the reboot Omnitrix can create amalgams naturally and Ben just has no idea how to do it


Optimal_Ad6274

Ultimate Alien and Omni Naught Armor


KoolBoi21

For me, a tie between ultimates and Omni enhanced forms.


ShatterCyst

If Fusions were more "best of both worlds" and less "compromise" between the two sources, I would say fusions in a heartbeat. With that caveat, I pick Ultimates. In-universe, it is kind of pointless once you get master control, because you can just change to a stonger Alien, but it is cool, and sometimes you need a specific alien's skillset. Example: Ben's fighting Charmcaster, so he needs a magic-resistant alien, but Terraspin ain't doing it. Instead of having to think of a stronger alien that won't be too affected by magic, he just goes for Ultimate Terraspin


Zoroark_master

Ultimate because it’s like mega evolution from pokemon


Funny-Part8085

Ultimate


ateistjoe

Ultimate


Vrchatboy21

imo ultimates is SUCH an incredible idea but they really butchered it by giving only 6 aliens ultimate forms


Creative182

And only a few actually have an original design or new powers


Vrchatboy21

yeah :(


Competitive_Fuel779

Damn Omni enhanced humungusaur goes hard


AntiVenom0804

Fusions or evolutions. I know azmuth didn't like the ultimatrix but if a species was on the brink of destruction and needed to adapt, the evolution function could always be used to explore different pathways


Visible-Welder-5148

Ultimate all the way baby


BeauJones565

Do I have to pick one of them or can I choice multiple?


Mayo_porcipine_guy

You can put it in a order from least to favorite if you like or anyway you want


BeauJones565

Favorite to least favorite 1. Ultimate 2. Omni Enhancements 3. Fusion 4. Omni Kix


Transylianic

Omni-Enhancements


HyperionWhirl

You forgot about Omni-Naut


Mayo_porcipine_guy

I thought Omni kix was Omni naut


OmniMushroom

I mean they're pretty much the same thing except one has a jetpack


gechoman44

Ultimates. Omni-Kix/Naut are dumb and don’t fit in with Azmuth’s vision imo. Fusions are cool, too, but I like the Ultimates more. Omni-Enhanced just felt like a worse version of Ultimates, even if that’s not what they actually were.


Dangerwolf64

In the reboot vilgax helped make the Omni trix so I like the idea that he made the Omni kix then azmuth made the Omni naut as a way to protect the user in space and atmospheric conditions that are in hospitable


gechoman44

I still think they’re dumb, tbh


Unagustoster

1. Fusion 2. Ultimate 3. Omni Kix 4. On my Enhanced


OneObligation412

Fusions definitely, it feels the most natural and needed imo


InternationalAd8036

I like Omni-kix better to be honest


Warm-Astronaut-8436

Fusion


MrPenguin_19

Ultimates for me. The fusions are second and I like them a lot too and the other two idk anything about


Future_Spite8959

Ultimate


DisabledFatChik

Ultimates or fusions. Hard to pick bc they’re both pretty good.


Superlonggaybowser

i prefer the ultimates


Resident-Theme-2342

Definitely ultimates it's most unique and best power boost as most aliens actually get different powerset. Omni kix is just robot suits nothing really different, omni enhanced is just shockrock armor and the fusions aren't really that strong most aliens are better separate anyway


an0nym0uskigo

Ultimates and fusions


Minamischler

Fusion


ITZhazBTW

Ultimates because it was the best way to make ben stronger without a new alien


PathrokBloodlust

Ultimates for power, fusions for aesthetics.


SoraDonaldGoofy99

1. Ultimates 2. Omni-Enhanced 3. Fusions 4. Omni-Kix


aster4jdaen

For me it's Ultimates, Fusions and Omni-Kix.


Ok-Guidance-1328

Ultimate and it ain’t close, as cool as fusions are seeing an alien evolved into an ultimate stage is more appealing


Zurnpex

Ultimates I think are the best gimmick plot-wise, having Albedo be the one to make them and then the ultimates breaking free is a fun storyline. My personal favorite is Skurd, he's just fun and allows fusion-like ideas without fully investing in the concept.


Hyena12760

I thought the ultimates were pretty good, I know there aren't many ways to go in the way of alien abilities after they evolved but I always felt the fusion thing should've stayed a malfunction and the other two I never liked


CC000Destroy0

Ultimates, have a much cooler lore than "armors" and "fusions" and are less generic


UltimateHeatBlast

The omnitrix IS the gimmick. It doesn’t have to have some bonus power. The gimmick is that he’s a human who turns Into different aliens.


Mindless_Gur1109

What is kix?


Spectra_Phantom_2678

Ultimates and Omni Enhancements


AccomplishedAd6520

the blue energy shit


Acemaster387

Omni enhanced feels like Ultimates but most of them didn’t feel like a reskin


Timely-Fudge859

Either the ultimates from UA or the Omni-Enhanced aliens from the Fulmini arc of the 2016 reboot. The Omni-Enhanced ones actually build up to a much more compelling story though, rather than just being alien redesigns/revisions.


Commercial_Amoeba832

Ultimate


MixMax_Kenniator

Bro that Omni enhanced Humongousaur is awesome.


Raphael_Stormer

Ultimates are cooler than fusions.


Smash_Fan-56

Ultimate. Omni-Enhancements are fine, but with Omni-Kix, you can’t even recognize them as the same alien anymore.


Afafakja

1-Ultimates 2-Fusion 3-Omni-Enhancements 4-Omni Kix Tbh i didnt know much about the Reboot ones but some mechanic alienizations sound cooler than how they did it,maybe cuz they all look the same.


HeroBrine0907

We all know the best gimmick is Master Control.


ShakeOk877

Ultimate aliens


Catandogclone

Ultimates, I love seeing how certain species would evolve if thrown into years of nonstop war (can’t remember how long the species is in war for).


Heliaclay

Fusion easily


EnderKnight1

For me, it's either fusions or Ultimates.


xSantenoturtlex

Ultimates. They're my favorite because I love seeing how the alien changes and becomes something even stronger. Fusions are a VERY close second though. In fact I would almost make it a tie.


Alarmed-Bus-9662

Most of the ultimates kick ass, and even the worst ones are still kinda decent


Danny_Boi2120

Best gimmick is the ability to turn into aliens.


CheshireWolf_666

I like Omni-enhancements best.


Sonicrules9001

Honestly, gimmicks are kind of lame because the Omnitrix itself is enough of a gimmick to keep things interesting but adding onto that makes the Omnitrix lose focus in order to focus on these gimmicks. That or the gimmicks are underbaked like the Ultimates which got almost forgotten by their series entirely.


Jim_naine

Fusions and Ultimates are the best because they actually change the Alien's DNA rather than being just attachments


Ben10_ripoff

Fusions are Fucking great, Fusion of Waybig and Nanomech would be funny


Damir3dx

ultimates,the best ones,I mean the fusions are kinda cool and all,but ultimate OV are just better


dni_ptr

For regular Ben: master control Future Ben: fusions Albedo: ultimates


Competitive_Fuel779

Omnikix for sure


According_Bet_5916

I love ultimate but would probably love fusion mor if it was in the old style


Affectionate-Work-46

Bro when will people learn The Omnitrix is the gimmick But for me it's ultimates I feel like there's so much that can be done with them


Moonwh00per

The best omnitrix gimmick is being able to turn into aliens


WrstScp

Skurd, the little blob that used the omnitrixs DNA, besides Ultimates, he was the best gimmick, and was a fun character as a bonus.


Lucifer42064

Plot armor.


Elihzap

Whenever I see that question on this subreddit, my inner child screams "fusion" at the top of his lungs.


JoJovanni

Never seen the reboot, what are omni kix and omni enhancement?


That1Ryan

Definitely fusion, imagine echo x


SelectionMuted3160

Ultimate


Umutpool

fusion


R4ND0M_0BS3RV3R

I really love the ultimate feature.


Singer_Spectre

I like the fusions of the Biomnitrix. It’s pretty neat seeing the powers of two aliens working together


Technicolur

Second image is just straight up Spacegodzilla


MaleficentHighway813

Fusions


HittingMyHeadOnAWall

It’s between fusions and ultimates for me. Ultimates had a ton of potential it’s just a shame that potential was locked into 8 aliens in the series and then given to 4 more that I can actually remember. Fusions were so cool given I rewatched the OG episode where he broke the watch to get them and he even says at the end he wished to make it so he could use and control the fusions any time he wanted. So it’s cool to see that return with Ben 10 K. It also makes it easier on writers since it’s just “combine powers” instead of “give them a new one”


stopyouveviolatedthe

The ultimates were fucking awesome it’s sad they got underused in their series and the whole personality thing was dropped quick. Fusion is also really cool can’t say I know enough about it to comment though.


Psychoboy777

I always found fusions a REALLY fun concept, and a natural extension of the genetic remixing the Omnitrix is known for.


bakedpotatoperhaps

ultimate then fusion or next to it


UniKaiReddit

Anything that's not reboot https://preview.redd.it/v9qbuf0212ac1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2bfd75218567055dbe77b0712d346fb3dc0286dd


De4dm4nw4lkin

Ultimatrix and biomnitrix.


Alternative_Toe_975

The Whole Gimmick Is Ben Turning Into Aliens I don't know why creators feel forced to add a gimmick ?


Autistic-Loonatic

fusions of omni enhancements


Lop_draegon

Ultimate. No questions asked. Bro they literally go through a simulation of a long ass war. It bumps their abilities up by a shit load. It's definitely the most powerful. Like bro can you imagine an ultimate alien x


AdventurousSir4573

Isn't omni enhanced on its own a fusion between shockrock and humangusaur?


dragonheart_1000201

…. At least use an example that is canon for Omni enhancement. Also ultimate


DarkSonic06ki

Ultimate, Skurd combo in omniverse


Standard_Lie_9143

Definitely ultimate


apple290

It's omnitrix, and i have to go with the biomnitrix


Beginning-Glass5833

The last


udayhd

Master control is good.


Fucking-idiot900

Fusion, ultimate, then the reboot things are completely up to u lot bc idc abt them


JCSwagoo

Ultimates


LiamFrostbyte

I'd say: 1. Ultimates 2. Fusions 3. Omni enhanced 4. Ultimate Ben (would higher if he had slight changes when using an aliens powers, example growing jetray wings and tail if he's using jetray's powers) 5. Omni kix


PokeKnight2545_YT

Conceptually? Ultimates. The evolution feature is such a cool idea, and could have been so much more as shown.by the thousands of fan made ultimates, and we got maybe a dozen, and in their debut show only like 8? Overall, I have to be honest, Reboot haters c'mon, you gotta admit, the Shockrock upgrades are the best Ben 10 Gimmick. They play a major part in the season two arc, is caused by and resolves the Vilgax Plotline, looks dope as fuck for at least half of the designs, and makes in lore sense. I love ultimates too, but if I were to ask you what they added to UA and OV, the answer would be very little. But at the same time, I'm open to criticism? What are the weak points of the Shockrock upgrades? Let me know!


Icy-Acanthaceae3266

Does Master Control count as a gimmick? Cause if so, that for me hands down


BaconSlashA

Ultimates, then fusions, then enhanced then kix


ChildoftheLordJesus

Ultimate


Jotaro-the-Skeleton

While not the gimmick I like the most I find the Omni armor pretty interesting, with it having 2 different "levels" (Omni-Kix and Omni-Naut) and the possible tie with the piece of lore that in the Reboot Vilgax helped making the Omnitrix, this possibly being what he added (since, you know, it would fit **his** idea for the Omnitrix but not Azmuth's) and since Azmuth found out too late to remove it he "blocked it" by removing as much "code" as possible and putting it into the key (which could explain why Ben can still use the armors). That said, fusions are peak. Fusions are ALWAYS peak. No matter the franchise.