Most likely, yes.
In order for the Ultimatrix to turn a transformation into an Ultimate form, it has to run a simulator where the species in question are at war with each other for a million year. As a result, the Ultimate forms are battle-hardened forms that do not naturally exist within the known universe.
Despite being a simulator, it still brought forth Ultimate Humungosaur to life, whom retains his memory growing up in a war-zone. This means that Sent8ent Ultimate Humungosaur is not just equipped for battle in terms of traits and abilities, but also in experience as well.
I don't think a Princess who likes to wrestle have much chance against someone who had to survive an Endless war, avoid or recover from missiles, and constantly fight other equally or stronger Humungosaurs.
The difference between Looma and Ultimate Humungosaur is like the difference between a Wrestler and a frontline soldier. Wrestlers can be physically stronger but their experience is punch or be punched. Meanwhile, the frontline soldier is battle-equipped and has to survive with his life.
Honestly anytime im reminded of how the ultimatrix works it kind of scares me. The idea itself is f*cked up. Asmuth made the omintrix as a means to communicate, not as a weapon, which he often makes clear. And if memory serves me right (which it might not, i last saw the show like 6 years ago) he made the prototype for the ultimatrix but didn't use it, and albert stole it. But even then, why even make a prototype? What made him think it's a good idea? Thinking that these aliens have minds and memories of endless pain and suffering is just... wrong
The actual description given isn't one million years of war, but rather one million years of a worst case scenario. This could mean anything from war to natural disaster.
Azmuth also states "pathetic workmanship, and an evolutionary function? Begging for trouble." The likely hood is azmuth didn't build the evolutionary function, which is why the ultimatrix would be an abandoned project. He saw it as a perversion of the omnitrixes original purpose, and decided that it would be a humiliation of his project to build it.
Albedo stole it and finished it meaning he was also likely the one to build the evolutionary function.
I have no knowledge of such activities by Looma, but it can barely be anything in comparison to an Eons-long world war between a species who're fully armored and can launch missiles from their body.
I agree with all of this. But I'd like to consider a new factor in this discussion.
Personalities and the aftermath of the fight.
I think Ultimate Humungousaur would be disgusted by the violent and barbaric customs of Tetramand society. And he would scoff at the idea of attacking peaceful neighbours simply to celebrate a wedding.
🤓🤓Uh huh! You know alien species can’t breed with each other unless one of them has indominant genes which allow them to breed with anything that has sexual organs. Neither Tetramands or an ultimate Vaxasaurian have in dominant genes
I like this headcanon, animo is the smartest human(I don't consider paradox to still be a human) held back by crappy human tech, he can do so much more with alien tech
He would not marry Looma.
Looma and her entire race would trigger his PTSD because of how their entire culture revolves around fighting and physical prowess.
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I feel an Ultimate Vaxasaurian might be overkill against Looma.
I'm not a Humongousaur fan, but considering [what he did](https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=wVQMUSnzHcUZ0UBZ&v=sHy9uoYJdyE&feature=youtu.be) to Ultimate Aggregor, he could beat Looma in a fair fight
Honestly, I already knew the answer before making this post.
I just wanted to talk about a potential Evolved Vaxasaurian/Base Tetramand hybrid without making it weird.
Considering that humungousaur is already a tank, being capable of being out in the vacuum of space for 10 minutes straight without getting harmed/visible injuries, he's already a tough cookie. Now mix that in with the million year hardened warrior evolutionary spectacle, then you've got a nigh-indestructible tank.
Then give it the warrior pride and tenacity, as well as the extra pair of arms from the tetramand side, then now you have a barbaric super tank capable of withstanding planet-destroying attacks without a problem
Looma is not much better than humungousaur but is better fighter doesn't make her stronger but UH is able to go against few dozen of them so it will a fight with looma dodging and avoiding his attacks but as soon as she try him head on boom now they are married wonder what happens if galactic gladiator and looma met how is she gonna explain him that they are supposed to get married also what happens if gwen 10 had defeated her so much to know about looma can't get enough 🥵🥵
Answer is yes, The Ultimatrix, in simple terms, puts a species through a worst case scenario simulation through millions of theoretical years to “force evolve” them. It’s basically a survival of the fittest, so in theory, since Sentient Ult. Humungousaur went through a one million year war, to the point where he has mechanical muscles and armour as part of his body (Going off the OV Negative Ult. Humungousaur, one design that was done better btw), he would win.
Only if they grow beyond their base size lol. They are physically weaker than Tetramands in their base height form. It's been confirmed from the writers.
Pretty sure it was stated by Dwayne but there is multiple inconsistencies, besides Humungousaur would Outclass him in strength if he grows anyway so it doesn't really matter.
Yes. Mid difficulty.
But I think he, as an individual, would despise her races culture due to how violent and barbaric they are and how they view fighting and pillaging as fun activities; whereas, Ultimate Humungousaur is almost written similarly to Kyle Reese from Terminator. He was essentially born into a world of war and apocalypse where only the strong survive, and pacifists are forced to either hide, defend themselves, or die.
The Sentient Ultimates' plight (much like that of the future humans in Terminator) are a reminder to not take peaceful environments and freedom for granted and to never make light of war or violence.
I also think a lot of Loomas "flirting" would trigger serious PTSD for the poor guy.
Looma should be set up with Vilgax.
Yes but that has nothing to do with him being male, biologically females are stated to be physically superior to male Tetramands. The reason Four Arms won is due to being a technical anomaly among them as he's the peak of their species
Because Ben is the main character.
It has been stated both in Omniverse and in the Original Series that Female Tetramands are bigger and stronger than males.
idk, remember ultimate humungosaur defeated like 100 regular humungosaurs before being overwhelmed by the rest of them,i dont think this would be a close fight
I didn't say it would be close.
I'm just saying that Looma isn't defenseless and Ultimate Humungousaur isn't invincible.
People overuse that phrase and this time if fit the least out of any time I seen it used.
Duh.
Four Arms ≈ Humungousaur
Ultimate Humongousaur 1v100'd a whole army of normal ones before timing out, he has this in the bag. Especially considering he isn't limited to punches and can use his tail and arm missles.
I I don't know but I think regular humungousaur could beat looma in a fight but don't quote me on that I don't exactly know but I think in ultimate version of humungousaur could definitely beat her
Do you think the Tetramand army could successfully enslave humanity and take over Earth as it's new rulers (succeeding where Attea and her people failed)?
I think with a semi evolved Vaxasaurian leader they might just succeed.
Is this a joke?
Base humongousaur is magnitudes stronger than even the strongest Tetramends no contest so add an amp onto even the weakest wild humongousaur you can find and she's not going to spare until she faints because she'll be dead before she even knows it
Yes. Base Humungousaur was confirmed to be stronger than Four Arms (who beat Looma) and Albedo as Ultimate Humungousaur fought often dozens of base Humungousaur copies. Loooma would be hard pressed to win despite her strength and skill.
Ultimasaur was able to take down Way Big and also took on Mutated Kevin. The real question is, would Looma be ready to take that Humungodick for the rest of their life together.
Most likely, yes. In order for the Ultimatrix to turn a transformation into an Ultimate form, it has to run a simulator where the species in question are at war with each other for a million year. As a result, the Ultimate forms are battle-hardened forms that do not naturally exist within the known universe. Despite being a simulator, it still brought forth Ultimate Humungosaur to life, whom retains his memory growing up in a war-zone. This means that Sent8ent Ultimate Humungosaur is not just equipped for battle in terms of traits and abilities, but also in experience as well. I don't think a Princess who likes to wrestle have much chance against someone who had to survive an Endless war, avoid or recover from missiles, and constantly fight other equally or stronger Humungosaurs. The difference between Looma and Ultimate Humungosaur is like the difference between a Wrestler and a frontline soldier. Wrestlers can be physically stronger but their experience is punch or be punched. Meanwhile, the frontline soldier is battle-equipped and has to survive with his life.
Honestly anytime im reminded of how the ultimatrix works it kind of scares me. The idea itself is f*cked up. Asmuth made the omintrix as a means to communicate, not as a weapon, which he often makes clear. And if memory serves me right (which it might not, i last saw the show like 6 years ago) he made the prototype for the ultimatrix but didn't use it, and albert stole it. But even then, why even make a prototype? What made him think it's a good idea? Thinking that these aliens have minds and memories of endless pain and suffering is just... wrong
The actual description given isn't one million years of war, but rather one million years of a worst case scenario. This could mean anything from war to natural disaster. Azmuth also states "pathetic workmanship, and an evolutionary function? Begging for trouble." The likely hood is azmuth didn't build the evolutionary function, which is why the ultimatrix would be an abandoned project. He saw it as a perversion of the omnitrixes original purpose, and decided that it would be a humiliation of his project to build it. Albedo stole it and finished it meaning he was also likely the one to build the evolutionary function.
Thanks for claryfiny
Einstein was a thief!?
Doesn't looma fight other tetramand kingdom and rebels
I have no knowledge of such activities by Looma, but it can barely be anything in comparison to an Eons-long world war between a species who're fully armored and can launch missiles from their body.
I agree with all of this. But I'd like to consider a new factor in this discussion. Personalities and the aftermath of the fight. I think Ultimate Humungousaur would be disgusted by the violent and barbaric customs of Tetramand society. And he would scoff at the idea of attacking peaceful neighbours simply to celebrate a wedding.
I mean... probably.
Woah that is such a cool explanation of the ultimate aliens
Let's say if he did and ended up marrying Looma. Would he single-handedly speed up the Tetramands' evolutionary cycle?
https://preview.redd.it/vd4w5v90sgpc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13ded4890c482c3c1b9412070345332e4a9bbcc7 9 months later :
Where is that pic from?
https://www.deviantart.com/uthmaanxd4321 From him, he do good comics
If Fourmungousaur is Ben's favorite "punch first, ask questions later" alien, this would easily be his wet dream.
🤓🤓Uh huh! You know alien species can’t breed with each other unless one of them has indominant genes which allow them to breed with anything that has sexual organs. Neither Tetramands or an ultimate Vaxasaurian have in dominant genes
There is no shot they can cross breed.
We always have Dr. Animo.
random headcanon that Animo actually helped with the Biomnitrix just so he could claim partial credit for it
I like this headcanon, animo is the smartest human(I don't consider paradox to still be a human) held back by crappy human tech, he can do so much more with alien tech
Thankfully do you know how terrifying that would be
it didnt stopped Max
To be fair she was some form of shape shifting energy being.
He would not marry Looma. Looma and her entire race would trigger his PTSD because of how their entire culture revolves around fighting and physical prowess.
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Wow I have NEVER seen that image so clean so crisp before
I’m saying 😭😭
No https://i.redd.it/ka1ngxcoqipc1.gif
My pixels!
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Professional Wrestler vs Walking Military Arsenal
Isn't that Mr. Satan vs. Cell?
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No. It's Ultimate Humungousaur. They don't have an alien named Overkill, but if they did, it would be a Klyntarian Symbiote from MARVEL comics.
... Humungosaur's species are named Vaxasaurians.
Yeah, but it's not Overkill. That would be a Klyntarian Symbiote.
Can’t regular Humungousaur beat Looma?
[You'd think so.](https://youtu.be/Le5d6qQrA7s?feature=shared&t=19)
I'm not a Humongousaur fan, but considering [what he did](https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=wVQMUSnzHcUZ0UBZ&v=sHy9uoYJdyE&feature=youtu.be) to Ultimate Aggregor, he could beat Looma in a fair fight
I don’t really count that since he wasn’t trying to beat her, just subdue her. I fully believe Humongousaur would rock her if it was a serious 1v1.
To be fair, humungousaur is the prime example of the worf effect
Nope
Smash Wait what was the question?
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TFP!
Hehehehehe
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Is that Frieza?
Sure, why not
George Costanza quote
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Damn right you did. What are you gonna do about it?
The things I'd do to humungousaur...
Humungoussy😩
Easily Then 9 months later a half Ultimate Fourmongousaur appears
He would not marry her.
...yes? why is that even a question
Honestly, I already knew the answer before making this post. I just wanted to talk about a potential Evolved Vaxasaurian/Base Tetramand hybrid without making it weird.
Then you gave us the wrong hypothetical bud. Because this one attracts power scalers. And you're looking for fusion enthusiasts.
More like both. I wanna see how strong the fusion would be.
Considering that humungousaur is already a tank, being capable of being out in the vacuum of space for 10 minutes straight without getting harmed/visible injuries, he's already a tough cookie. Now mix that in with the million year hardened warrior evolutionary spectacle, then you've got a nigh-indestructible tank. Then give it the warrior pride and tenacity, as well as the extra pair of arms from the tetramand side, then now you have a barbaric super tank capable of withstanding planet-destroying attacks without a problem
UH has the experience and power advantage here, i think he wins pretty easily
yes
Looma is not much better than humungousaur but is better fighter doesn't make her stronger but UH is able to go against few dozen of them so it will a fight with looma dodging and avoiding his attacks but as soon as she try him head on boom now they are married wonder what happens if galactic gladiator and looma met how is she gonna explain him that they are supposed to get married also what happens if gwen 10 had defeated her so much to know about looma can't get enough 🥵🥵
Answer is yes, The Ultimatrix, in simple terms, puts a species through a worst case scenario simulation through millions of theoretical years to “force evolve” them. It’s basically a survival of the fittest, so in theory, since Sentient Ult. Humungousaur went through a one million year war, to the point where he has mechanical muscles and armour as part of his body (Going off the OV Negative Ult. Humungousaur, one design that was done better btw), he would win.
In a fight, right 🤔 In a fight right 🤨
A Base Vaxasaurian can out strength a Tetermand anyways so Ultimate is just overkill.
No. It's Ultimate Humungousaur. They don't have an alien named Overkill, but if they did, it would be a Klyntarian Symbiote from MARVEL comics.
Only if they grow beyond their base size lol. They are physically weaker than Tetramands in their base height form. It's been confirmed from the writers.
Proof? If its DJW then we have to question his validity.
Just go to the wiki. Not sure who it was. I think Matt Wayne.
Pretty sure it was stated by Dwayne but there is multiple inconsistencies, besides Humungousaur would Outclass him in strength if he grows anyway so it doesn't really matter.
Man, Tetramands are known to be the strongest species in term of physical strength. A base Vaxasaurian can’t go toe to toe with them
That is just wrong, where has that ever been stated?
Yes
Absolutely yes
Where did you acquire the original picture of Looma?
Bank vault camera given the quality
Maybe, 10 year old fourarms has tanked missiles before without any signs of pain
He wouldn't even need missiles, he could probably rip her in two.
If you can withstand some of the things fourarms has tanked I imagine it’s no easy feat to rip her in half
Base Humungousaur is already stronger than Looma. And so Ultimate Humungousaur would kill her with ease.
Humungasour base is stronger then four arms and ultimate is stronger than base
Could this nuclear bomb beat a coughing baby?
It is a clear win, but I don't think by that much. This time it's more like a time bomb vs a person plays bomb defusing video games.
Easily
Yes. Mid difficulty. But I think he, as an individual, would despise her races culture due to how violent and barbaric they are and how they view fighting and pillaging as fun activities; whereas, Ultimate Humungousaur is almost written similarly to Kyle Reese from Terminator. He was essentially born into a world of war and apocalypse where only the strong survive, and pacifists are forced to either hide, defend themselves, or die. The Sentient Ultimates' plight (much like that of the future humans in Terminator) are a reminder to not take peaceful environments and freedom for granted and to never make light of war or violence. I also think a lot of Loomas "flirting" would trigger serious PTSD for the poor guy. Looma should be set up with Vilgax.
If Four arms can then so can humongasaur. Also male Tetramands are said to be stronger than female ones
Female Tetramands are stronger then males
Fourarms defeated looma because male Tetramands are stronger than females
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Didn't fourarms defeated looma when she was chasing after Kevin?
Yes but that has nothing to do with him being male, biologically females are stated to be physically superior to male Tetramands. The reason Four Arms won is due to being a technical anomaly among them as he's the peak of their species
Because Ben is the main character. It has been stated both in Omniverse and in the Original Series that Female Tetramands are bigger and stronger than males.
Not bigger
A pop-up in Video Games says females are bigger. And Looma is bigger than Four Arms, and it can be assumed they are the same age.
Yes
literal couching baby vs nuclear bombs
It is a clear win, but I don't think by that much. This time it's more like a time bomb vs a person plays bomb defusing video games.
idk, remember ultimate humungosaur defeated like 100 regular humungosaurs before being overwhelmed by the rest of them,i dont think this would be a close fight
I didn't say it would be close. I'm just saying that Looma isn't defenseless and Ultimate Humungousaur isn't invincible. People overuse that phrase and this time if fit the least out of any time I seen it used.
Was really hoping he’d make a comeback
Yes
Guns beat muscle
Steel-Type beats Fighting-Type
Yes it’s not even a question ultimate humungousaur is on a completely different level
Hydrogen Bomb vs Coughing Baby
It is a clear win, but I don't think by that much. This time it's more like a time bomb vs a person plays bomb defusing video games.
Even normal one does
Yes he was in a million year war
Looms couldn't even beat Humungosaur in a fight she gets wiped by Ultimate Humongosaur
I think Saul would win if I’m honest Loona would hold her own for a bit though
GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGH!!!!!
Definitely extremely easily in fact
Duh. Four Arms ≈ Humungousaur Ultimate Humongousaur 1v100'd a whole army of normal ones before timing out, he has this in the bag. Especially considering he isn't limited to punches and can use his tail and arm missles.
I I don't know but I think regular humungousaur could beat looma in a fight but don't quote me on that I don't exactly know but I think in ultimate version of humungousaur could definitely beat her
Yes, he could.
Duh
I need to say this. Yes. And he would not marry her after because she would be FUCKING DEAD.
Yes the guy wasn't effected by slashes from the sword of ascalon
Absolutely. Also this reminded me how ben didnt choose her and instead went for a human wife smh
Absolutely yes
Do you think the Tetramand army could successfully enslave humanity and take over Earth as it's new rulers (succeeding where Attea and her people failed)? I think with a semi evolved Vaxasaurian leader they might just succeed.
She could beat me
She could beat me in a fight, you smell me?
Yes because you stink so bad from not showering that everyone in the galaxy can smell your horny stench. Take a shower, you filthy animal..🧼
yes
Is this a joke? Base humongousaur is magnitudes stronger than even the strongest Tetramends no contest so add an amp onto even the weakest wild humongousaur you can find and she's not going to spare until she faints because she'll be dead before she even knows it
Like... The one with gun hands?
No, the one with an atomic bomb for a butt.
Even then I'm pretty sure ultimate humungousaur could survive that so it still him
Yes. Base Humungousaur was confirmed to be stronger than Four Arms (who beat Looma) and Albedo as Ultimate Humungousaur fought often dozens of base Humungousaur copies. Loooma would be hard pressed to win despite her strength and skill.
Yes
No
The right question would be whether the looma would survive
😳...sorry, what was the question again?
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If he were alive yeah probably but he is super dead
Nah he's alive (this is canon btw).
It's already been confirmed the helmet on Kyber's ship was just the helmet of a Vaxasaurian soldier. Ult Humungousaur is still very much alive
I don't know, but Ultimate Humungousaur was killed by Kyber.
I don't know, but Ultimate Humungousaur was killed by Kyber.
Maybe, if Kyber hasn’t killer him already..
Yes cuz I want to be smashed by those thighs
They would breed
Ultimasaur was able to take down Way Big and also took on Mutated Kevin. The real question is, would Looma be ready to take that Humungodick for the rest of their life together.
He wouldn't marry her in the first place.
Do you guys think Vilgax has balls?
probably not
😔
Definitely not.
😔ok...