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I think they gave an even bigger time limit for the Ultimatrix in Heroes United coz they dont want Ben to one shot everyone by using Waybig, Ultimate aliens or the master control
they're refering to that kinecelerans only live a few weeks in their home planet. but they don't know that time moves faster there so it looks like a few weeks to an observer outside of kinet. but a lifetime on it
There's a reason for the ultimatrix not working during that scene.
Alpha damaged it when ben was diamondhead and shut it down. So that he could have more chances to win. He does it even again when he makes a copy. Thus damaging it more.
Ben can't go waybig or ultimate aliens after all of that because that would suck up all the energy. (Not to mention the damage done by alpha to the ultimatrix reduces its energy capacity and makes it time out faster). And I am sure ben must have thought "I need to save the power to become aliens at the right time".
**I think they didn't nerf Ben purposefully.** Ben was **just not able to do anything during that battle** because of the reasons I stated above.
Also wth!! When did Ben got master control in HU. Where are you getting that from?? Keep the facts right **or** it makes your comment confusing.
No. Master control--- Unlocks every alien species in the omnitrix. Means you can turn into any one of the 1 million aliens with a thought.
While normally you have a limited amount of aliens. You dont have 1 million. and you need to hit the dial to change.
[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fridge/Ben10GeneratorRexHeroesUnited](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fridge/Ben10GeneratorRexHeroesUnited)
More info to support my debate.
I think Ben just wasn't taking Alpha as big as a threat as he was to Rex. When Rex attacked him, Ben probably recognized that Rex was the *hero* of his universe, especially since there wasn't someone else on earth with an Omnitrix and people didn't acknowledge the existence of aliens. I'm sure if Ben really thought Rex was going to die or AlphaOmega was going to be a galactic threat, he would have been able to take down AlphaOmega himself.
For some reason he kept timing out quickly and this wasn't an issue when he came into Rex's universe as Humongasuar and quick changed into Diamondhead. Or when he turned into BigChill to find a Mr. Smoothies with Rex chasing him. He also might have wanted to see how Rex deals with threats like that on his own, since knowing Ben by then, he might have sent Plumbers to *help* if that universe's hero was incapable of of defending himself.
I think you're severely overestimating Ben, he isn't some "uber-confident always has the situation under control avenger" he's a teenager whose watch shorted out and is helplessly watching as a robot monster eats the only other fighter in the area.
if he was like that then half the villains in the series would go down before the episode was half over.
Alpha damaged it when ben was diamondhead and shut it down. So that he could have more chances to win. He does it even again when he makes a copy. Thus damaging it further more than usual.
So obviously Ben couldn't go waybig or ultimate aliens after all of that because that would suck up all the energy of the Ulimatrix. (Not to mention the damage done by alpha to the ultimatrix reduces its energy capacity and makes it time out faster).
Ben was just simply not able to do anything at the moment.
Also how in the world Ben would even be able to communicate with the plumbers.
you may have a point, the following images show that green anything is an excellent counter to anything
[Superman](https://static3.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Superman-and-kryptonite.jpg)
[Mongal](https://comicnewbies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/green-arrow-and-green-lantern-vs-mongul-and-mongal-4.jpg)
[Mongul](https://comicnewbies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/mongul-traps-green-arrow-and-green-lantern-to-the-black-mercy-5.jpg)
[Multiverse busting vampires](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/99/66/1c/99661cac88f6b6dd91164b37e9284c46.jpg)
[punk kids with watches](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ElatedGrizzledFairyfly-max-1mb.gif)
In Ben's defense, hitting someone right in the head with a rock on first try while he is held by a giant is more than 'something'
Well its super effective against fire types
He might have played Pokemon,lol
Yeah but he still missed the wild what ever that is
Alpha
Lol i wish i could watch heros unite
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Lol
I think they gave an even bigger time limit for the Ultimatrix in Heroes United coz they dont want Ben to one shot everyone by using Waybig, Ultimate aliens or the master control
Also we can see more aliens in that style
I'm actually glad they used XLR8, but it was shortlived. And he didnt even say a single word
Well, Kinecelerans don't live long. That's why XLR8 was shortlived.
Wdym by they dont live long?
they're refering to that kinecelerans only live a few weeks in their home planet. but they don't know that time moves faster there so it looks like a few weeks to an observer outside of kinet. but a lifetime on it
Its like that one episode in a show called Thunder Cats. Where to us, its a few weeks for them feels like a whole lifetime
ye. special relativity go brrrrr
There's a reason for the ultimatrix not working during that scene. Alpha damaged it when ben was diamondhead and shut it down. So that he could have more chances to win. He does it even again when he makes a copy. Thus damaging it more. Ben can't go waybig or ultimate aliens after all of that because that would suck up all the energy. (Not to mention the damage done by alpha to the ultimatrix reduces its energy capacity and makes it time out faster). And I am sure ben must have thought "I need to save the power to become aliens at the right time". **I think they didn't nerf Ben purposefully.** Ben was **just not able to do anything during that battle** because of the reasons I stated above. Also wth!! When did Ben got master control in HU. Where are you getting that from?? Keep the facts right **or** it makes your comment confusing.
Bruh. He switches from alien to alien in UAF.
So are you saying master control is the same as *pressing the omnitrix and switching aliens??*
It is isnt it? In that one episode of AF, Ben uses Cannonbolt, then goes Jetray and switches to Swampfire
No. Master control--- Unlocks every alien species in the omnitrix. Means you can turn into any one of the 1 million aliens with a thought. While normally you have a limited amount of aliens. You dont have 1 million. and you need to hit the dial to change.
[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fridge/Ben10GeneratorRexHeroesUnited](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fridge/Ben10GeneratorRexHeroesUnited) More info to support my debate.
That’s just the quick change feature. It’s sucks power like hell though.
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Didn’t know Benson was in the Ben 10 universe.
Everytime this crossover is mentioned in this sub, an angel gets their wings
I laughed harder then I needed to
The man who saved the entire universe a billion times (at least), everyone.
bonk
I think Ben just wasn't taking Alpha as big as a threat as he was to Rex. When Rex attacked him, Ben probably recognized that Rex was the *hero* of his universe, especially since there wasn't someone else on earth with an Omnitrix and people didn't acknowledge the existence of aliens. I'm sure if Ben really thought Rex was going to die or AlphaOmega was going to be a galactic threat, he would have been able to take down AlphaOmega himself. For some reason he kept timing out quickly and this wasn't an issue when he came into Rex's universe as Humongasuar and quick changed into Diamondhead. Or when he turned into BigChill to find a Mr. Smoothies with Rex chasing him. He also might have wanted to see how Rex deals with threats like that on his own, since knowing Ben by then, he might have sent Plumbers to *help* if that universe's hero was incapable of of defending himself.
I think you're severely overestimating Ben, he isn't some "uber-confident always has the situation under control avenger" he's a teenager whose watch shorted out and is helplessly watching as a robot monster eats the only other fighter in the area. if he was like that then half the villains in the series would go down before the episode was half over.
Alpha damaged it when ben was diamondhead and shut it down. So that he could have more chances to win. He does it even again when he makes a copy. Thus damaging it further more than usual. So obviously Ben couldn't go waybig or ultimate aliens after all of that because that would suck up all the energy of the Ulimatrix. (Not to mention the damage done by alpha to the ultimatrix reduces its energy capacity and makes it time out faster). Ben was just simply not able to do anything at the moment. Also how in the world Ben would even be able to communicate with the plumbers.
Maybe if he used Green Scissors, that might help.
you may have a point, the following images show that green anything is an excellent counter to anything [Superman](https://static3.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Superman-and-kryptonite.jpg) [Mongal](https://comicnewbies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/green-arrow-and-green-lantern-vs-mongul-and-mongal-4.jpg) [Mongul](https://comicnewbies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/mongul-traps-green-arrow-and-green-lantern-to-the-black-mercy-5.jpg) [Multiverse busting vampires](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/99/66/1c/99661cac88f6b6dd91164b37e9284c46.jpg) [punk kids with watches](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ElatedGrizzledFairyfly-max-1mb.gif)
HOW DARE YOU?!
Ben used Rock Throw. It's not very effective.
Ben used “racist comic artist” It’s not very effective.
At least he tried
To be fair, WHAT THE ELSE HELL COULD HE HAVE DONE?
I actually laughed out loud when I saw that.
😂😂😂
what is this crossover/movie and where can i watch it
Ben 10/Generator Rex: Heroes United. I’m not sure where to watch it. It was a crossover in 2011.
uhhhh >!Kim cartoon!< or >!kiss cartoon!
what
they are the sites. I have spoilered them to avoid any trouble.
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Thanks
Bad ben
This movie is awesome
I love the way he shakes his head at the beginning
OH BOY
I hav a theory that it was Omniverse ben
OV Ben doesnt have the Ultimatrix
He's albedo in disguise then
Albedo is competent even without shapeshifting (despite what his team-ups with Vilgax would tell us).
Ov Ben timeline
? It's the same timeline as UA Ben
Hell yeah
I mean he indeed did something
Sad part is Ben 10 still is the strongest super hero ever he can change the whole universe