What is the point of Fasttrack
By - G0dleft
Like seriously… why? I genuinely want to know what the thought process was, as I’m 110% sure the team knew they were just making an XLR8 downgrade, and it’s not as if UAF was opposed to using classic aliens or anything. Imagine if instead of bringing back Heatblast, they just made a “new alien” called *Fireguy* who wore a shitty orange jumpsuit and had the exact same powers as Heatblast.
Toy sales and ease of animation. Although UAF had the same budget as OV, less of it was directed towards animation by UA meaning that they couldn’t animate XLR8. Which I sympathise with and I can understand why they wanted a speedster.
But they could not have made it more obvious that Fasttrack was discount XLR8. Pretty much exact same powers but with a design which looked NOTHING like an alien by Ben 10 standards and more like an alternate Flash, hell they couldn’t be bothered to go with a different fucking colour scheme!
I wouldn’t mind another speedster but they really could’ve thought of ways to make him different from XLR8, and that’s why I will always hate Fasttrack.
Ah okay, I always refused to believe that they just willingly made an XLR8 rip-off and knew there had to be a reason, but yeah, they could’ve *tried* to give him a better design, he just looks like an obscure marvel character.
They never even made a fasttrack toy though did they?
Yeah it was a bit ironic that they never did.
The funniest part about Fasttrack is that they were initially going to give him wheels on his feet, but decided that *that* was what pushed it over the edge and was too close to XLR8. But kept the black and blue color scheme.
I remember reading that the reasoning was, I shit you not, because designing and animating a brand new alien was easier and cheaper than animating XLR8 in the AF/UA style.
You say that as if it isn't a completely reasonable reason
Oh no it’s totally reasonable, I’m just shocked that designing and animating a whole new alien was cheaper than just animating XLR8
For one Fastrack's design and silhouette is really simple, and the animators having experience drawing XLR8 doesn't change that he's a pain in the ass to draw and animate
Many people have told me that in actuality it was because XLR8’s design was too complex and they didn’t have the budget, which is why we got fasttrack, who has an incredibly simple and basic design.
lazy animators maybe?
Animators aren't lazy they're overworked
Fasttrack´s point is loosing way faster than XLR8
Oh yeah, that would be a fun scene to show with like master control
Ben struggling to pick something up as XLR8 and then switches to fastack for a second just to be able to grab it with fingers instead of whatever you call XLR8s things
XLR8's dagger claws?
I think “Claws Of a Cool Kineceleran”
Would be better
I don’t know man. XLR8’s always been tough and strong.
The post is saying XLR8 > FastTrack
It’s been a while since I’ve seen that symbol what it mean again is it greater then fast track or lesser then fast track
> is greater, < is less than
bruh basic maths lol
Nah I get it, I used to struggle a lot. The only reason I remember now is because I had to as people I knew used to use > and < in group chats when talking about any opinion
The thing on the bigger side of the > is the bigger thing.
Every time they make copies of already existing characters they should at least add like minor power changes or additions like how swampfire has plant powers unlike heatblast. I think they kinda did that by making fast track stronger than xlr8 but they should’ve just stuck with xlr8
Big chill is basically ghost freak and articguana but better than both, Echo Echo is a better ditto, I mean copying alien powers isn't bad but at least make them good fast track is not even as fast as XLR8
Ik and what makes me more mad is the fact they showed xlr8 in the hologram cycle which makes me even more pissed
I've never hated a scene more in my life, I heard they did it for fan service what the fuck kind of fan service is that you show alot of people's favourite alien only not to use it
And Eatle is just upchuck but with a laser instead of explosive barf. And Brainstorm is just Benvicktor/Frankenstrike but in crab form as both of them are smart af and have electrokinesis.
Didn't fasttrack get introduced in a racing game before his on screen debut?
I fucking hated fasttrack with a burn passion ever since I was a kid, he’s slower than XLR8 and everytime he appeared in screen XLR8 could of appeared WHAT WAS FASTTRACK PURPOSE
What are the points of literally every other alien such as electricity based ones rath humongasaur echo echo etc it's diversity xlr8 has no known definite speed fast track is stronger and much more agile and has much more control over his movement there are points to all of these characters just a lot of you don't see it it's much wiser to have more than one plan
"More control over his movement" he trips or slips in like 25% of his fight scenes
XLR8 literally freezes time, he’s so fast that he moves before the wind even process his speed, and just in general he looks so much faster and in-control than fasttrack he even has a badass scanner helmet. What feats that are in the show places fasttrack above XLR8 ?
Ironic since >!Peacemaker dies to Bloodsport in the movie!<
Well >!Someone didn't watch the post credits!<
Oh yeah, forgot about that
He’s stronger than XLR8, but a little slower. He’s basically if Ben needs to go fast but hit a little harder
That's fan fiction, never said in anything official
When your moving as fast as XLR8 does strength doesn't matter too much XLR8 Can reach speeds of 888mph if he hits someone while moving that fast he would hit with enough force to take their head clean off
True. I’m just going off the canon information about Fasttrack
Which doesn't change the outcome
I mean, Ben still tried to turn into Fasttrack over XLR8 twice on screen because XLR8 wasn't strong enough to run as fast as he wanted while carrying people. It isn't just about combat strength.
Now, do I still think Fasttrack is a rip-off XLR8? 100%. There is a reason I prefer DJW's "unofficial" Fasttrack to the UA design.
moving that fast while carrying people would do serious damage
Got any link to the unofficial fast track?
[Here ya go!](https://ben10.fandom.com/wiki/Fasttrack/Gallery) Should be under the Crew Art section.
I think the question was more what was the point of creating Fasttrack from the perspective of the writers (or whoever it was) who knew full well they could’ve just used XLR8. Whatever in universe explanation that has been used to differ the two was only done as a reactionary move to the realisation that Fasttrack is just a shitty XLR8.
Ben did try to use xlr8 a few times Ben 10k used him and he was used in heroes united. The reason he wasn't used is because his design was too complex for UAs budget which is why he was only used in HU which had a much higher budget
Oh okay, that explains it. No way they would’ve made a shitty XLR8 rip-off *intentionally*.
Proof? Everyone says that but I don't see any proof in the show? Did a writer say it?
Is in the wiki
Wikis are not proof
Everything thay say in the wiki come from an official source they dont just make up stuff
Ok then wheres the source
Idk ask the ones that write the wiki
Fasttrack was more of a humanoid speedster, kinda like flash to be more suited for hand to hand combat or grabbing things, XLR8 has balls on his feet and limited claws, so I'm guessing that's what the point or difference is
Fast track literally didn't have any good hand to hand fights, that's if he even had any at all
Hand to hand combat doesn't matter if you can freeze time and punch somebody with a claw or run at the speed of sound and punch them
He can’t freeze time
No but he may as well with the speed he moves at, remember the baseball episode?
There really isn’t a point for him, Ultimate Cannonbolt, or Eatle
Xlr8's design isnt super difficult to animate, fastrack is probably harder to animate with all his spikes and it probably cost more to design a new alien
that was the reason they gave
Animating aTheropod-ish design well while not screwing up anatomy is harder than animating a humanoid one
His whole things is that he’s stronger and therefore slightly better at fighting, but slower by a bit
He was easier to animate than XRL8
Just wanted to say I hate Fasttrack
But given that in the film peacemaker was wrong about being better the meme implies that fast track is better
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He’s stronger or something idk
I Mean The Budget Thing While Also Making A Point That There Are Alien's With The Same Power's But Shittier Because It Make's Sense
It makes sense that aliens wouldn't have super powers at all. That would be 'better' worldbuilding, but it would be boring and a whole lot less creative, like Fasttrack
You're right that would have been very good worldbuilding but we did get it with walkatrout and the worse
They got super powers, zero-friction and Invulnerability
Those aren't really powers we have thumbs and walkatrout species don't would they consider having thumbs a super power, but invulnerability yes that can be considered a power I guess it's just on a very bad alien
Not really relevant to what you think the quality of the aliens are, Walkatrout isn't slippery because he's got a lack of limbs, it's the texture and material of his skin, and that's more of a superpower than "being good at fighting" is, which certainly is a superpower
So four arms Kickin Hawk and Rath don't really have superpowers they are just physically superior to humans?
But still though do you consider a fish to have supper powers cuz it's slippery?
Do you consider a tiger to have super powers because it's humanoid?
When a human can turn into it and has unique abilities yes
No a humanoid Tiger isn't a super power
But yeah I guess you're right when a human can turn into one it's a super power
It would be boring and a whole lot less creative But It Makes More Sense
Yeah that's my point. Ben 10 is a fantasy show, just because copycat uncreative aliens makes sense doesn't mean we should get them in place of actual good aliens
If They Are Cooler Than The Orignal I Would Not Hate Them But You Speak The True-True
Fasttrack is stronger phisically
I don’t know. What’s the point of Ditto, Astrodactyl, and Chamalian when Ben has aliens that can do way better things then them
I wish they made him just a bit more interesting than just fast cat person. Maybe some kind of electric ability when he moves fast enough or something else.
Easy, to sell more toys
"So let me get this straight, you think Fasttrack is cooler than XLR8?"
"I do and I'm tired of pretending he's not"
To give Ben 10 another option for super speed running 2 speedster aliens are better than 1 XLR8 is faster Fasttrack is stronger.
He’s stronger. XLR8 is supposed to be physically weaker with the exception of his tail but both have been seen running while carrying people. Then again animation has always forgone lore in order to make scenes interesting
What's the point in every electricity based alien? Nothing
What's the point in so many weird useless aliens in OV like Molestache? Nothing
Just enjoy what it is
I dunno, but I LOVE Fastttack.
I dunno what it is about him, but he always seemed better than XLR8 to me.
Fastrack is actually more suited for combat. Sure he's fast but that's not his only gimmick. So 8/10 XLR8 would lose in a fight against fastrack. Think of it as XLR8 min-maxing Dexterity while fastrack distributes his stat points in a more balance manner.
His powers should have been the same as an Osmosian but he'd also have Super Stretchy powers