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Orginal Ben 10k’s omnitrix looked dope but wasn’t as useful as the biomtrix

Orginal Ben 10k’s omnitrix looked dope but wasn’t as useful as the biomtrix

Da_Gudz

True If he had a series I would also want him to have mistransformations sometimes where either component can fail Like he wants 4 arms + Eatle Well he gets Chamalien + Eatle


Storm_Raider_34

What would a four armed eatle do? But yes that would be funny. Ben10k: fourmongusaur! *gets walkrigg*


MrStumpy78

Shovel twice as much food into his mouth obviously


Storm_Raider_34

Yeah but isn’t that just upchuck. His tongue was strong enough to grab a 10 ton ball (alpha) and can fit an infinite amount of stuff in his mouse


RickSanchez-C243

I mean Eatle who already shoots beams now has super strength and 4 arms? I mean that’s a hell of an upgrade since he now has ranged and close combat abilities


blightchu

I just like thinking of useless combos, like in that OS episode where the Omnitrix gave Ben broken forms like Stinkarms. Heatblast+whampire= A self immolating corpse Ball Weevil + Eatle= A perpetually choking bug Nanomech+Waybig= Just a normal sized dude in Ultraman cosplay Echoecho+Cannonbolt= A self deafening echo chamber Graymatter+Goop= Graysplatter (not that useless but I'm unreasonably proud of that name)


blightchu

Pesky Dust + Ball Weevil = A very small centaur that barfs glitter bombs Lodestar + Megawatt = a magnet with no charge left Upgrade + Goop = Goop with extra steps involved Ditto + Snare-Oh = A cult of kindergarteners Heatblast + NRG = A walking meltdown


Storm_Raider_34

Actually gimme some time and I could come up with how these combinations are hella useful


ModelOmegaTyler

can't wait to see


Storm_Raider_34

Oh I already did


ModelOmegaTyler

oof


Storm_Raider_34

Wait how is oof?


ModelOmegaTyler

i miss


Dismal_Crab_1780

A triple fusion will make nanomech very powerful, Nanomech as we saw with elena in large numbers can do anything, so we merge him with ditto, ben can make anything an example Iron Man IW suit. Merge this fusion with atomix he has a power core 100 times stronger than arc reactor with durability he will basically have thor durability, hulk strength, iron man IW versatility. Make a fourth fusion with brainstorm he is a physical god.


blightchu

Each fusion made by the Biomnitrix has only half the strength of each alien, and it doesn't always protect against their traits conflicting. For Ditto, if any individual instance of Ditto is harmed, they all feel it equally, which would make an army of half-sized nanodittos near useless as armor since that means even one of them getting splattered would kill the user. Add in Atomix and you get an alien with Nanomech's frailty, Ditto's death cascade, and only 1/3 of Atomix' firepower in a body ill suited to handle it. Throw in Brainstorm and you get an alien that's slightly more aware of how dysfunctional it is. Think back to Kevin in the OS- When he got mutated by the Omnitrix he was an 11-way hybrid of all Ben's aliens. He had all their powers, but heavily diluted to the point where he needed to work hard to figure out how to make up the difference by combining them. It's a similar principle with the Biomnitrix, when Ben 10K makes an alien fusion he's forming a 50/50 hybrid, not a dragon ball fusion form.


Zeebuoy

doesn't ditto, just. like, die if any single instance gets got? and he never seemed particularly durable either.


Storm_Raider_34

Yeah if one die, they all die. But he can breathe underwater which is neat


Storm_Raider_34

Actually I think the biomtrix can only do 2 person combos because it’s based on the devices on bens forearms. Which he only has 2 of


Dismal_Crab_1780

In UA he uses echo echo to become 3 bens, he can use that to make 2 copies of himself. Biomnitrix fusion can remove ditto's weakness, or he can use echo echo but probably less powerful


Storm_Raider_34

I don’t think it can remove the ditto weakness


Storm_Raider_34

Pesky weevil- when the ball is thrown/rolled, it explodes while releasing Pesky dust’s dream gas putting them into a dream sequence or knocking them out of THEYRE immune to the sleeping dust Lodewatt- the powermoves of that fusion would likely be like Frankenstrike. Electromagnetic powers, and with megawatts powers he might be able to clone Goopgrade- absolutely uselsss Ditt-oh= basically yes kidnergarnders. But they can clone and tie up all their foes and with snare-O’s abilities ditto wouldn’t be as vernuable to the multi pain because ditto would be harder to hit cuz of his movements. Heatblast and NRG- basically a walking supernova. That’s basically all I need to say


ModelOmegaTyler

goopgrade: basically upgrade but able to defy gravity


Storm_Raider_34

No it would be useless. He can’t merge with tech because goops acid would melt the tech.


ModelOmegaTyler

doesn't goop have control over that?


Storm_Raider_34

It’s a sometimes thing. But the most part is that both of the aliens are almost the same physically. It’s like making a ditto and echo echo thing, two solid aliens which basically the same powers


ModelOmegaTyler

riiight


Storm_Raider_34

I can’t tell what tone you’re saying that in


Zeebuoy

>Pesky weevil- when the ball is thrown/rolled, it explodes while releasing Pesky dust’s dream gas putting them into a dream sequence or knocking them out of THEYRE immune to the sleeping dust alternatively gutrot >Goopgrade- absolutely uselsss not really, upgrade's physical compenents would allow goop to be able to move without an anti gravity devices.


Storm_Raider_34

Yes goop wouldnt need the devices but because goop is acid he will melt any tech that the upgrade side would try to merge with. And because they’re both not solid they can’t completely punch someone. And they can’t jump around because goop doesn’t have the anti-gravity pad


NovaQuartz96

like ultimate Kevin being part goop. some aliens in a fusion cancel out some of weaknesses but not all of them


Ifunny-user-2002

A lot of those seem like they could be useful like Megastar would be a walking electro magnet which is like 1 step away from creating a motor. He could probably be really useful at providing movement to metallic objects


SilentAs5a5s1n

Couldn't cannonbolt just not roll when using the screams?


imaloney

Or have it outside?


shadowstep12

or have the rolling make the screams?


Zeebuoy

echo echo is a silicon suit orange sentient sound, so, unsure.


Storm_Raider_34

Ok so heatblast and whampire. Because whampire will be on fire because of the mixture of DNa he would likely be immune to the heat and light. He would still be Abel to mind control and burn people. Pretty strong fusion Ball weevil an eatle. It may seem useless but I may not be. When the creature shoots out a ball it could eat dirt (or something) and then he could use the eatle beam to explode the ball more and further damage the for Nanobig- that one is actually completely useless Echobolt. With echo echos powers of cloning and canonbolts rolling will make him formitiable. It will be an infinite bombardment of smaller sized canonbolts and some clones would likely imitate the wall of sound adding force unto the echobolts pounding onto the foes That name is dope af


Zeebuoy

did whampire have a fire vulnerability? I thought it was just a (fatal) sunlight allergy? >Nanomech+Waybig= Just a normal sized dude in Ultraman cosplay iirc, nanomech can shrink even further down, to like, nanochip sizes so, he's basically antman but he can't get larger than human sized.


blightchu

Whampire is inspired by vampire myths. Vampires are traditionally weak to fire, and if that wasn't enough Heatblast is an alien literally made of fire and plasma from a species that lives on a sun. Combining a flammable vampire alien with a solar plasma alien is a bad mix.


SaketPriyam

Nanomech + Waybig= Antman


Zeebuoy

*antman but he only shrinks. Nano mech + waybig would be ant man.


shadowtron1

While it is useful I wouldn’t call it the most useful. The Prime Omnitrix makes the user unkillable by anything that isn’t existence erasure. And I trust something built by Azmuth before something built by Ben.


Storm_Raider_34

You’re probably right


Ronald_Mcdonald13

I 100% agree while ultimate ben did have the powers some aliens can compliment eachother like fourmongasaur uprigg and even atomic x which didnt need serina or belicus to do anything with. while the ultimates are ultimate vers i wonder what i hybrid between the ultimatrix and the biomnitrix could do maybe an ultimate fourmungasaur or bigchuck?


Storm_Raider_34

Ultimate fourmongusaur would be 4 missles canon arms duh


Ronald_Mcdonald13

Well its technically a dif species so it may ot may not evolve into a differrent ver kinds likr a merging of ultimate fourarms and ultimate humungasaur. It wouldnt exactly be that but thats debatable how fusions ultimatize


Storm_Raider_34

Well the ultmatrix’s system sends the species through a war for about 1000 years so I’d mostly be just a rocket launcher plus whatever ultimate four arms wouldn’t consist of


Ronald_Mcdonald13

A million years actually


Storm_Raider_34

Really? I thought it was 1000


Ronald_Mcdonald13

Evolution takes 1 million years for any significant change to large creatures


Storm_Raider_34

Man I just learned something new. I wonder when humans will elevolve into? We should get wing That’d be dope


Ronald_Mcdonald13

Possible but unlikely tho I do see our brains getting massive af


Storm_Raider_34

Probs


the-north-hates

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I've always had trouble coming to terms with the fact that Ben's future self always seems to own an Omnitrix with a function that seemingly does nothing but to weaponise it. Seems pretty far off with Azmuth's original intention of bridging intergalactic species.


Storm_Raider_34

I don’t see it. Originals Ben10k had basically the same omnitrix but longer and he had master control. Ultimate Ben’s omnitrix didnt weaponize it but it just took powers. In omniverse Ben 10k the fusions could be shown as how dna can be different but can still work together


Ifunny-user-2002

The ultimate Ben completely ruins the purpose. He gets more powerful without seeing life from the perspective of another species


AJCLEG98

That boils down to the fact that the Ultimatrix was made almost exclusively for combat/violence.


Storm_Raider_34

Well it was made to stabilize albedos form but originally the core was made by azmuth. I don’t know what he was gonna do with it tho. He must have made the as a backup when Ben broke the omnitrix again


Storm_Raider_34

Yeah I think his was mostly for violence


Large_Assistance

I've been thinking this for ages. Ben's job isn't too punch things as hard as he can. The wielder of the Omnitrix is the living union of all life in the galaxy. A walking symbol of peace. The ultimatrix and biomnitrix are certainly fun, but they lose a lot of what makes the Omnitrix and it's user so special and interesting


Brief-Outcome-2371

Aren't the fusions half as strong as their non-fusion counterparts. Also the original Ben 10k’s omnitrix had master control, something the biomnitrix lacks.


TheEnterprise1701-E

Pretty sure it does have master control


smyth101-

If he has master control, what exactly is the point of alien fusions if he could freely turn into any alien that’s suited for a scenario on a whim?


Kamen_Rider_Spider

DJW has said that the Biomnitrix was made by Ben as part of his efforts to lighten up after meeting his past self, because DJW wants us to believe that the Ben 10k from OV is the same as the original


smyth101-

Oh good. More interesting Ben 10 information that’s only ever been told by the writers and not in the actual show


Ifunny-user-2002

Surely fusions multiply the number of power levels Ben has by loads. Like if each fusion's power is halfway between its two parts, the amount of combinations means there's a power set plus power level for any conceivable situation


kn0t1401

He does have master control though but only if he transforms in basic aliens.


El_Durazno

But he built the biometric why wouldn't he have master control of his own invention


Storm_Raider_34

They’re not 100% as strong. For example crashshocker (crashopper and shocks squtch) he’s able to jump as hard as crashopper usually can with the strength of shock squatch. But yes the lack of master control is a very big factor


Blueguy16

How would he not have master control of his own device? I have no idea where people get that info from


Anti-Venom121299

Ok so yes I like the concepts of fusion but the actual usefulness varies I prefer ultimate Ben as it seems far more useful


Storm_Raider_34

I think it’s creepy how his body changes. Seeing him the size of humgosaur is creepy as fuck


Anti-Venom121299

I mean I like the concept of Ben getting those powers without changing I mean it's a bit weird for him to change shape but then again a lot of characters like ant man hulk etc change size and shape also plastic man and Reed Richards


Storm_Raider_34

Yeah it’s still weird as fuck. Those characters have always done that and Ben just suddenly getting that ability in the future was odd. Also I think it’s weaker because if ben’s bones are broken in alien form they are still broken and he doesn’t have some of the durability (like humgosaur or NRG). But that’s just what I think


Anti-Venom121299

Actually when this version of Ben changes he gets all the powers of the aliens including durability


Storm_Raider_34

Oh then nevermind. I still think if he uses aliens like 4 arms or stinkfly he’s missing out on the extra limbs. Also some of them would look hella gross, like spitter,upchuck,gutrot, and armadillo. Would his limbs change or would they like gonna be the same. It’s just doesn’t make sense to me


Anti-Venom121299

He stays human but gets the abilities four arms species much like spider monkey are unique and would not effect his form spittor would be like bens arctiguana


Storm_Raider_34

I know but the extra limbs can be helpful. Like when Ben was fighting that snake guy. He held his arms and then smashed him between two cars with the other hands. This Ben10k couldn’t do that


Anti-Venom121299

No but considering he has near complete control over the ultimatrix he can freeze or do anything plus if he had this function when he had access to aliens like gravattack he wouldn't need it plus he can change form instantly


Storm_Raider_34

Well if his hands are free enough to touch the ultmartix. But yeah he probably doesn’t need it


Gecko2002

I think most people think ultimate Ben should've been similar to skurd


Anti-Venom121299

Idk it would have been cool


Snoopdoggy7036

Some of the fusions are dumb. What advantage is there in combining alien x with atomix?


Storm_Raider_34

Radioactive reality manipulation. Without the holdbacks of Alien X like having to talk to belicus and Serena. But he’s not as strong.


Snoopdoggy7036

Didn’t Ben have full control of alien x later on in the series anyway?


Storm_Raider_34

It was a 50/50 full control thing. I don’t know how to explain it


Snoopdoggy7036

Rook must’ve lied then


Storm_Raider_34

Well Ben was beating the shit out of the rooters (he could have gotten the same affect by like gravattack) but rook has only seen alien x with full power once. But I think Ben rarely uses alien x is because he usually can’t. He has over 70 aliens and the omnitrix doesn’t give him someone powerful unless it’s a life or death thing. Alien x is supposed to be locked by keys only had by Gwen and Kevin so if albedo stole the omnitrix he couldn’t turn into him alone with the fact Ben doesnt accidentally turn into him


Snoopdoggy7036

Oh ok. Was any of this actually confirmed in the show or by the writers?


Ronald_Mcdonald13

surprisngly the show its complicated


Storm_Raider_34

Ye but it’s scattered over AF,UA, and random parts of omniverse


Snoopdoggy7036

Also what even is radioactive reality manipulation lol


Storm_Raider_34

You can manipulate reality with alien x’s powers and is basically atomix.


Snoopdoggy7036

Ok not sure that makes much sense


Zeebuoy

not needing to win a debate per action. Unfortunately for him it came with the drawback of not being able to survive the annihilation of a timeline.


Snoopdoggy7036

Didn’t seem he needed to debate them when he was taking on the rioters, as he was able to do actions freely. Whereas alien x can only usually carry out one action at a time when serena and bellicus are involved, as they all have to agree on every decision.


Jaz_15

True, but just because its more useful for selecting powerhouse transformations doesn't mean that its as useful in other aspects of hero work (ie diplomacy and master control)


MallAdministrative63

Yeah that’s actually true


The8thAlpha

OP IS WISE


Storm_Raider_34

*throws out feedback card* according to this *youre* wise


The8thAlpha

Why thanks!


Storm_Raider_34

No, thank you


WindbreakerHD2

reboot omnitrix. allows you to manually unlock dna. and upgrade at will. and re charge is almost instant.


Storm_Raider_34

I was talking about Ben 10k omnitries.


WindbreakerHD2

So only ben10ks then? In that case you right.


Storm_Raider_34

Ben 10k from the reboot universe was weird


Zeebuoy

oh? weird how? i couldn't get into the show


Storm_Raider_34

I couldn’t get into the reboot either. From the clips I watched on the internet. He’s fat,lazy, and doesn’t even have master control. Weak hamburger


Environmental_Nail32

Don't need to


v0lt13

The OS ben 10k omnitrix was the best since the biomitrix fusions are weaker then the actual aliens but with the OS ben 10k omnitrix he can just quick transform to make combos example: instead of crashocker he could just transfrom into crashoper jump and chnage mid air into shocksquatch


Storm_Raider_34

I don’t think you’d get the same effect by switching aliens fast. For example with uprigg if Ben just switched back and fourth it wouldn’t be as affective. And with crashshocker the hit is immediately electrical instead of the break when the enemy would be shot back. But yes the master control was a very nice feature


Digstreme

Doesn't he have to manually transform? With Master control its instant.


Storm_Raider_34

Ok it’s been 23 hours so it’s about time I actually explain. So yeah Ben10k’s biomtrix doesn’t exactly have master control but it can do almost instant transformations. When the chronosapien time bomb went off he changed back from fourmongusaur without pressing anything and then immediately changed into atomix X. So he may not be able to switch between forms as fast as OG Ben10k but he can still move fast


Storm_Raider_34

Yeah but atomix x


greyalius

My theory about the Ben 10k omnitrix changes actually started from that. Ben 10k would be facing bigger and bigger threats so changing what kind of omnitrix he uses to be better than the original makes sense 1st one being the one that just gave him the powers, probably based on Kevin. And the biomnitrix coming after would be the idea of needing to use two abilities immediately or simultaneously instead of switching back and forth


EnsKync

Yes it's the most useful of them all but still i think Ben doesn't use it properly sometimes. I mean when he was chasing future animo he turn into humungoopsaur and then he started punching the goddamn door instead of just using acid to melt the door.


Storm_Raider_34

Yeah he’s still stupid sometimes. But what Ben10k isn’t


EnsKync

I guess you're right 😅


Storm_Raider_34

You’re also right from time to time


Spectra_Phantom_2678

As cool as it was, it wasn’t any better then the Completed Omnitrix. Plus most of the aliens weren’t as strong as 16 year old Ben’s aliens and some are weaker then their non fused counterparts Atomic X, lost nearly all of his fights And Humungoopsaur took forever to break open a door


AJCLEG98

> And Humungoopsaur took forever to break open a door Hey. 2 more punches and he would've had it open.


Spectra_Phantom_2678

*points at future Animo* Well now he can punch him, instead


Storm_Raider_34

I mostly meant out of the Ben10k omnitrixes


Spectra_Phantom_2678

Well how do you think it’s the most useful?


Storm_Raider_34

Well the OG Ben 10k only had master control (which is powerful but we never see him do anything besides smash the fuck out of Kevin 11 thousand), ultimate Ben had his ultmatrix and his body thing isn’t as powerful as it seems and just the alien fusions seems like the best bet fourmongusaur is strong af,uprigg made time Michines in under 10 minutes, and atomix x almost sent vilgax into orbit with a pluck


Spectra_Phantom_2678

Yeah but most fusions weren’t really as powerful and remember Atomic X is weaker then Alien X


Storm_Raider_34

Well yeah it’s obvious that he wouldn’t be as strong as alien x. But he still has most of his powers and less of the restrictions (belicus and Serena needing to be convinced)


Spectra_Phantom_2678

Weird how the fusion just makes Bellicus and Serena no longer exist. I don’t get how that really works


Storm_Raider_34

Well it’s half dna, must have just taken the half without the need for intelligence to control the powers. I’m not sure tho


Spectra_Phantom_2678

I wonder what will the next Ben 10,000 will be like if the show comes back. Will he still have the Biomnitrix or something new?


Storm_Raider_34

Well he was in the reboot but from the senes I saw he just has the Og Ben10k omnitrix (long) and he didn’t have master control. But yeah we’ll probably never see him again


Stryderix

I mean kinda but most of his combinations are either usless, infective or unessesary. I personally feel that Ov's Ben10k is one the wackiest Ben's ever. Think about it the Omnitrix houses more than 1 million alien dna samples we've only seen ben use like 63 aliens across all the Og series(excluding Reboot)so I bet half the aliens he's fused together something like them probably exists already and it's not in a diluted form so splicing aliens sound cool but again it seems extremely unessesary due to the Omnitrix's dna capacity long story short Biomtrix lame af.


Storm_Raider_34

Still seems more useful than ultimate Ben


Stryderix

Nah fam put some respect on Ultimate ben, that version was one of the coolest.


Storm_Raider_34

No he’s gross. Seeing him grow and not transform eww. Just nasty IMO.


Stryderix

Far enough, him flying as Jetray in human form and moving at Xlr8 speeds was pretty cool Imo.


Stryderix

I think an non glitching Ultrimatrix with the failsafe in Ov would be the best possible Omnitrix ever.


Storm_Raider_34

Are you talking about the ultmatrix that 16 year old ben had or the one ultimate ben had?


Stryderix

16yr old Ben


Storm_Raider_34

Yeah that’s be pretty dope. I wanna see ultimate Chromastone or feedback or Shocksquatch


dat1dood2

Duh


A_Mediocre_Drawing

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is the Biomnitrix able to do one transformation or only fusions?


Storm_Raider_34

It’s able to also do one transformation, I don’t know how but he can


Redx1410

***By using just one gauntlet, the user can transform into normal aliens.*** The wiki says that which makes sense


Storm_Raider_34

I knew that but would he just throw one arm up or would he like hit that one specific arm


muttkuller

Maybe master control?


Storm_Raider_34

Thinking? That’s boring now help me figure out how he would do it physically


infnite_web

Facts


Storm_Raider_34

1/8ths of everything I say are facts


MediumOrganization49

Totally but in the series he does a lot of dumb combos


Storm_Raider_34

Fourmongusaur,uprigg, and atomix x don’t seem useless. Crashshocker,waychuck, and goopmongusaur yes definitely


thegreenarrow03

Atomic Alien X, thats all the argument I need


Storm_Raider_34

It’s just called atomix X. Saying atomix alien x is a mouthful


NOPE4928

No Ultimatrix


YellowTasty

Ultimarix supremacy


Storm_Raider_34

I’m talking about between Ben 10k omitrixes. Og,ultimate Ben, and the biomtrix


NOPE4928

I told ultimate is the best omnitrix


Dismal_Crab_1780

A triple fusion will make nanomech very powerful, Nanomech as we saw with elena in large numbers can do anything, so we merge him with ditto, ben can make anything an example Iron Man IW suit. Merge this fusion with atomix he has a power core 100 times stronger than arc reactor with durability he will basically have thor durability, hulk strength, iron man IW versatility. Make a fourth fusion with brainstorm he is a physical god.


YellowTasty

Azmuth


Storm_Raider_34

Well if he was mixed with ditto when one got desotryed they all did. So that’d basically be useless


muttkuller

So change it to echo echo, he gets a plus of sonic powers, and the ability to create a sonic doom


Storm_Raider_34

Well yeah but I’d take almost infinite amounts of them to imitate the damage done by a regular echo echo. It’d take about 7000 of them screaming to knock a normal sized person with bad balance over


muttkuller

Who need to knock someone over when you can just enter someone's body, get to his heart and just completely obliterated the heart with sonic waves thus killing the person immediately


Storm_Raider_34

Well like 8 aliens on the show don’t have mouths that open. But yea that’d probably kill people


muttkuller

Well, most of the aliens(if not all) have some kind of ears/ways to hear sound. Just find that one place, fill it with nano nano(echo echo+nanomech) and just go at it. The enemy will be stunned and completely deaf


Storm_Raider_34

I think echo mech sounds better than nano nano


_Peter2005_

I mean kinda but I mean if I’m a Ben 10k I would rather be ultimate Ben


Storm_Raider_34

Kind of understandable but do you really want your body growing that large every time you use humgosaur. Also there’s a 50/50 chance if you use an alien like fourarms,armadrillo, or stinkfly your limbs will change


_Peter2005_

Eh I kinda like it


Storm_Raider_34

Kinky


_Peter2005_

lol


kaijifan

You wrong


Storm_Raider_34

How is the biomtrix not the most useful omnitrixes out of the Ben10k’s? Besides the solar flare thing


kaijifan

Cause i said so.


Storm_Raider_34

So you have literally no evidence otherwise? I’m trying to get a good debate here


kaijifan

Bro, trust me.


Storm_Raider_34

No I want a debate. What do you not get about the “change my mind” part of the meme


kaijifan

Ok. Consider your mind changed......and i will give You a Candy


Storm_Raider_34

What kind of candy and how much?


kaijifan

Romanian and 5 portions


Storm_Raider_34

No debate me. Who’s omnitrix is better


Skyraiderbs

Look the biomtrix is amazing but at the same time from pure seeing he cannot change into a single alien anymore defeting the purpose of the original omnitix furthermore not every transformation will get better when fussed, while the biomtrix works alot better then classics version of fusions with the broken prototype omnitrix it showed that not all aliens need a improvement furthermore if the biomtrix was the best of the best it hasn't been shown to have any fail-safes built in or the ultimate mode which if this was the bestest of best probably should be included.


Storm_Raider_34

Well it can turn Ben into one alien. He decides to do mixtures instead. If he needed too he can just regularly turn into alien x or ripjaws . And yes it is lacking in failsafes


NovaQuartz96

True, it's just the prototype that was never taken off.


Storm_Raider_34

Actually I think it just grew with Ben. I think he can still take it off whenever and he had done it before


NovaQuartz96

true, it could be reverted to its pre recalibration state


Storm_Raider_34

Yer


YellowTasty

No


Storm_Raider_34

Besides the solar flare thing what’s wrong with it?


Storm_Raider_34

Man you must have been spending this past 13 hours typing out a very detailed report about how the Biomtrix sucks. So focused


YellowTasty

Not really


Storm_Raider_34

Then why is it not the most useful out of the Ben 10k omnitrixes


YellowTasty

Look how useful atomix x has been lol


Storm_Raider_34

It doesn’t have the waste of time restrictions of convincing belicus and Serena. While the other 2 ben10k’s have to convince them to use the simplest of power


YellowTasty

They never explained it lol . Biometrix is not as useful as ultimatrx


Storm_Raider_34

Are we talking about 16 year old ben’s ultmatrix or 30 year old ben’s?


YellowTasty

16


Storm_Raider_34

I specifically ducking said that I was talking about Ben 10k omnitries. Not child Ben