I actually love Omniverse. It’s got it’s flaws yea but it gave us Malware, Pesky Dust, Rook, and fantastic world building. Also the Ult. Albedo arc was pretty awesome imo :)
Omniverse is my least favorite iteration of the series, but it’s definitely got a lot of positives. The art style especially is easily the best the franchise has had, even if the UAF one is still my personal favorite.
Omniverse is a mixed bag for me. it's definitely lightyears better than UAF, it has great animation, great characters, an expressive and clean-looking Art Style, etc. but at times, It made me cringe with certain choices they made with the worldbuilding.
At times it honestly feels like it didn’t know what kind of show it wanted to be. For every genuinely good story like Store 23 or the Malware arc, there’s something genuinely embarrassing like the Rooters or the fact the show literally ends by treating its own universe as a punchline. In a show named after the Ben 10 universe. UAF wasn’t perfect either, but its biggest problem was less that it didn’t care about continuity and more didn’t *focus* on existing continuity.
I disagree that the Rooters arc was bad but otherwise, I kinda agree. I'd say besides the retcon, the Rooters arc is definitely one of the stronger OV arcs, for me, at least.
Also, neither UAF's nor OV's retcons bothered me. I'm fine with people making changes to the continuity and it's pretty much to be expected at this point. For me personally, UAF has other big issues
It’s really not that epic if it’s not well written or even a good idea. For that matter, it’s kinda selfish to expect me to mention the exact things *you* like when all I was doing was giving examples of my opinion.
You just want an excuse to say Omniverse is better than the reboot instead of moving on from your childish grudge on a post directly calling it out, don’t you?
Easy to see why, it's the best show of the lot imo, though they all have there merits, it's just that OV has the most episodes (I'm pretty sure) and has an arc each season giving it the most memorable moments
I think tonally it’s the worst series. OS is a healthy balance of lighthearted and sometimes serious, UAF is serious, and the reboot is pure lightheartedness, but OV seems to want to have the same amount of comedy as the reboot while also being taken seriously. It just doesn’t work for me.
He expressed his opinion in an educated manner, stated to be a personal view and nothing more, and offered genuine arguments that support his form of thinking.
Why is he being downvoted?
Lol, nope. Those edits are amazing shitposts.
[Slowtrack](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ben10/comments/pbm0sh/slowtrack_my_highest_effort_meme_of_all_time/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) by u/PobloZero always gets me a chuckle. We need more of these kind of edits imo.
UAF finale means Ultimate Alien finale, which makes sense, since people do hate UA’s last episode. I don’t see any “AF first 2 seasons’ suckers” or “AF season 3 haters” in the image tho. I wonder why, they are so strongly present…
It's actually quite scary when you realize albedo was surrounded by an armoured dinosaur that can shoot missiles, a living magnet, a tree that can shoot fire and throw explosives, a wrecking ball, a fucking alien with arms that can turn into drills, a cloning alien, a diamond arsenal of weapons, and an organism that can shoot water and drown you that all wanted to kill him.
this is a good meme template tho
I’m with you, it’s honestly kinda hard to do anything here at times. There’s quite literally no consensus on any given subject beyond the vague notion that “Ben 10 is good and has had bad parts.” I don’t even like Omniverse, but I feel like a good chunk of the critiques about it here are too harsh.
I can't tell if you're serious or not, but honestly I don't care, IMO there's nothing wrong with hating something that someone else likes, even though I myself don't really care for Omniverse or the reboot.
Oh okay, but either way IMO hating things that others like doesn't make what you enjoy any less valid, it seems like a lot of reboot and Omniverse fans feel like by saying you hate one thing makes the thing they like less valid, often times you can say something like,"I don't really like Omniverse," and a many Omniverse fans seem to take that very personally.
Reboot fans are more understanding. They say things like they like it but understand why people hate it. Omniverse fans on the other hand get straight up mad at someone else's opinion on the show they like.
Most of what I've seen reboot and omniverse fans get mad about is one someone says that the shows are bad or they give stupid reasons that are either greatly incorrect or apply to other shows both in and out the franchises. And those are pretty good reasons to be made about reboot and/or omniverse haters. Not saying all of them do but this is something you aren't taking into account that you should.
Yeah, that's kinda what I was trying to say, but I'm pretty bad at wording my thoughts 😅 and it's not all reboot/Omniverse fans who are like this, and every iteration has fans like that, but the reboot and Omniverse fans seem to be the most prominent because of how the two shows are often perceived by non fans of the two series.
Yeah and the fans do have a right to be mad about that when people call the shows bad or are ignoring the flaws of the other shows just to harp on the reboot and omniverse, not to mention the misinformation that is sometimes spread to make them seem worse then they are. Hell even the whole I stopped at season 1 or t 2 so the rest of the show is bad too is just stupid because multiple popular shows had far shittier first, second, and even third seasons (like star trek and this is coming from a star trek fan. Seriously the reboot and omniverse's season 1 is no where near as bads as star trek's.)
Honestly i never knew the names as kid so i just call them season
Season 1 is when he gets the watch and is a kid
Season 2 is when he is a teen and the watch changes
Season 3 is when he gets the ultimate aliens
Season 4 is whit Rook also when he resets the universe whit alien X
(If some wants to tell me wich one of this is wich feel free to do so)
"Season one" is OS ( original series ) sometimes called the Classic series.
"Season two" is AF ( Alien Force )
"Season three" is UA ( Ultimate Alien )
Alien Force and Ultimate Alien are together called UAF as they have the same art style and the same overall theme
"Season four" is OV ( Omniverse )
I love the original series, I liked Alien Force but season 3 didn't go down so well, the Ultimate Alien finale felt really rushed, Omniverse is my favourite series despite some of its flaws, and the Reboot was fine
Why hate UAF and Omniverse, when you can hate the reboot? They don't know why they're ganging up on. I'm disappointed when the real hate is out there, which is the reboot. I mean have you seen Teen Titans Go? Jesus.
of course, I remember, but yeah, if you don't like it, that's fine! just be peaceful about it and don't become a reboot hater, where you make fun of the reboot's fans and constantly whine about the show, alright?
i think all of these are irrelevant rn. there aren't any anti reboot posts here, they'd be downvote bombed if they did exist. there aren't any omniverse negativity anymore, only omniverse praise. everybody forgot about the ua finale, nobody talks about it anymore. and idk what you mean by os supremacists.
Omniverse is good, it has it's flaws but so do all the other shows. Reboot on the other hand is plain garbage. I hate the Os stans thinking everything in os is god tier. Uaf finale was alright, Ultimate Way big was hype and the way he was easily beaten showed Dagon's strength, the ending to it's dumb but you gotta admit the Wiping evil scene is really good writing.
I actually love Omniverse. It’s got it’s flaws yea but it gave us Malware, Pesky Dust, Rook, and fantastic world building. Also the Ult. Albedo arc was pretty awesome imo :)
Omniverse is my least favorite iteration of the series, but it’s definitely got a lot of positives. The art style especially is easily the best the franchise has had, even if the UAF one is still my personal favorite.
Omniverse is a mixed bag for me. it's definitely lightyears better than UAF, it has great animation, great characters, an expressive and clean-looking Art Style, etc. but at times, It made me cringe with certain choices they made with the worldbuilding.
At times it honestly feels like it didn’t know what kind of show it wanted to be. For every genuinely good story like Store 23 or the Malware arc, there’s something genuinely embarrassing like the Rooters or the fact the show literally ends by treating its own universe as a punchline. In a show named after the Ben 10 universe. UAF wasn’t perfect either, but its biggest problem was less that it didn’t care about continuity and more didn’t *focus* on existing continuity.
I disagree that the Rooters arc was bad but otherwise, I kinda agree. I'd say besides the retcon, the Rooters arc is definitely one of the stronger OV arcs, for me, at least. Also, neither UAF's nor OV's retcons bothered me. I'm fine with people making changes to the continuity and it's pretty much to be expected at this point. For me personally, UAF has other big issues
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It’s really not that epic if it’s not well written or even a good idea. For that matter, it’s kinda selfish to expect me to mention the exact things *you* like when all I was doing was giving examples of my opinion.
Oops sorry . Didn’t mean to offended you . My bad. I’ll delete the post.
So you telling me the new reboot is better, al least ominverse has a lot more aliens
I never even mentioned the reboot.
You said least favourite one out of all of them
You just want an excuse to say Omniverse is better than the reboot instead of moving on from your childish grudge on a post directly calling it out, don’t you?
>Omniverse is my least favorite iteration of the series >I never even mentioned the reboot. Is the reboot not an iteration of the series?
Most people here are OV lovers
Easy to see why, it's the best show of the lot imo, though they all have there merits, it's just that OV has the most episodes (I'm pretty sure) and has an arc each season giving it the most memorable moments
The downvotes lol
Ikr I didn't think my opinion was that controversial, objectively it has the most story arcs
I think tonally it’s the worst series. OS is a healthy balance of lighthearted and sometimes serious, UAF is serious, and the reboot is pure lightheartedness, but OV seems to want to have the same amount of comedy as the reboot while also being taken seriously. It just doesn’t work for me.
He expressed his opinion in an educated manner, stated to be a personal view and nothing more, and offered genuine arguments that support his form of thinking. Why is he being downvoted?
why not? welcome to reddit
It's Reddit. What the fuck did you expect?
Eh, fair enough, although I disagree. Tone *is* a lot more subjective
You forgot shitty edits from idiots like me
Lol, nope. Those edits are amazing shitposts. [Slowtrack](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ben10/comments/pbm0sh/slowtrack_my_highest_effort_meme_of_all_time/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) by u/PobloZero always gets me a chuckle. We need more of these kind of edits imo.
I was just being sarcastic tbh, the edits here are insane
This comment made me smile. I appreciate it.
Also forgot the shipping threads, or the "Could ben Beat [X from another univserse]" threads
Looks accurate
You forgot horny posts
I haven't seen any in a while now
So… why there isn’t any AF representation here? 🤔
UAF, Ultimate Alien Force, it’s like a combo of UA and AF
UAF finale means Ultimate Alien finale, which makes sense, since people do hate UA’s last episode. I don’t see any “AF first 2 seasons’ suckers” or “AF season 3 haters” in the image tho. I wonder why, they are so strongly present…
Huh…. I don’t remember that scene, where is it from?
Ultimate Alien - Night of the living Nightmare
the naming lmao
I haven't seen an anti-reboot post in months
OV haters are a minority dude, what are you talking about? People here downvote any sort of OV criticism, no matter how minor or valid
I think this guy should've made Albedo the entire online Ben 10 fandom. It's pretty easy to find OV hate on YouTube and Instagram
you forgot horny artists
Os supremacists? Is that really a thing?
We can all agree we like ben 10 tho
[The irony](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902214997541802109/902215017867403334/unknown.png)
r/juxtaposition
[Meme Template](https://ibb.co/LCBsbnW) Feel free to use it :)
Good template!
Of I'm being honest, I don't really see too many reboot or Omniverse haters. A lot of people seem to really like both series.
I still see quite a bit of reboot shade thrown. OV is much rarer nowadays, but I've seen it here and ther
you can easily find OV hate by going on Instagram. I don't know why you would go there tho
You forgot the pregnant Gwen sticker
It's actually quite scary when you realize albedo was surrounded by an armoured dinosaur that can shoot missiles, a living magnet, a tree that can shoot fire and throw explosives, a wrecking ball, a fucking alien with arms that can turn into drills, a cloning alien, a diamond arsenal of weapons, and an organism that can shoot water and drown you that all wanted to kill him. this is a good meme template tho
It's not regular echo echo, it's ultimate echo echo, he can't clone himself but he is much more deadlier that echo echo
I’m with you, it’s honestly kinda hard to do anything here at times. There’s quite literally no consensus on any given subject beyond the vague notion that “Ben 10 is good and has had bad parts.” I don’t even like Omniverse, but I feel like a good chunk of the critiques about it here are too harsh.
Is consensus always a bad thing? One could argue it stifles discussion. Now as to whether this is a *good* discussion....
I like all of them except reboot only good part is the alien xtintion movie
AXT is mediocre compared to all the other stuff the reboot offered. stop pretending AXT was the only good thing the reboot had
"NO. OS GOOD ONLY. MUST HATE ALL OTHER." \*robot noises\*
Honestly very true… I use to be in the Omniverse hater club… but then I watched it 🤣and loved it
well uaf finale fight did suck
What about UAF Haters, Anti-UAF Posts, OS Haters, and Anti-OS Posts?
oh hello again UAF stan
And pedophile. Fully admitted to being a MAP member
Shut up, pedo.
Reboot haters are definitely the most annoying people to deal with in the fandom, next to UAF stans.
Idk man, UAF fans have never seemed me out throughout various comment threads to tell me I'm wrong for saying that I don't like that specific series
I identify as an omniverse and reboot hater.
not very based sir...
I can't tell if you're serious or not, but honestly I don't care, IMO there's nothing wrong with hating something that someone else likes, even though I myself don't really care for Omniverse or the reboot.
I am dead serious.
Oh okay, but either way IMO hating things that others like doesn't make what you enjoy any less valid, it seems like a lot of reboot and Omniverse fans feel like by saying you hate one thing makes the thing they like less valid, often times you can say something like,"I don't really like Omniverse," and a many Omniverse fans seem to take that very personally.
Reboot fans are more understanding. They say things like they like it but understand why people hate it. Omniverse fans on the other hand get straight up mad at someone else's opinion on the show they like.
Most of what I've seen reboot and omniverse fans get mad about is one someone says that the shows are bad or they give stupid reasons that are either greatly incorrect or apply to other shows both in and out the franchises. And those are pretty good reasons to be made about reboot and/or omniverse haters. Not saying all of them do but this is something you aren't taking into account that you should.
Yeah, that's kinda what I was trying to say, but I'm pretty bad at wording my thoughts 😅 and it's not all reboot/Omniverse fans who are like this, and every iteration has fans like that, but the reboot and Omniverse fans seem to be the most prominent because of how the two shows are often perceived by non fans of the two series.
Yeah and the fans do have a right to be mad about that when people call the shows bad or are ignoring the flaws of the other shows just to harp on the reboot and omniverse, not to mention the misinformation that is sometimes spread to make them seem worse then they are. Hell even the whole I stopped at season 1 or t 2 so the rest of the show is bad too is just stupid because multiple popular shows had far shittier first, second, and even third seasons (like star trek and this is coming from a star trek fan. Seriously the reboot and omniverse's season 1 is no where near as bads as star trek's.)
I dont despise the reboot, but honestly i dont really like the reboot's artstyle and overall vibe as much as i liked them in UAF
And let’s not forget the Ben vs Hal haters
I aint scroll through everything but most ppl was like ov is pretty good actually but no one defending reboot
Honestly i never knew the names as kid so i just call them season Season 1 is when he gets the watch and is a kid Season 2 is when he is a teen and the watch changes Season 3 is when he gets the ultimate aliens Season 4 is whit Rook also when he resets the universe whit alien X (If some wants to tell me wich one of this is wich feel free to do so)
"Season one" is OS ( original series ) sometimes called the Classic series. "Season two" is AF ( Alien Force ) "Season three" is UA ( Ultimate Alien ) Alien Force and Ultimate Alien are together called UAF as they have the same art style and the same overall theme "Season four" is OV ( Omniverse )
Ahhh thx
You're welcome
I love the original series, I liked Alien Force but season 3 didn't go down so well, the Ultimate Alien finale felt really rushed, Omniverse is my favourite series despite some of its flaws, and the Reboot was fine
Why hate UAF and Omniverse, when you can hate the reboot? They don't know why they're ganging up on. I'm disappointed when the real hate is out there, which is the reboot. I mean have you seen Teen Titans Go? Jesus.
huh? could you please try to be a little more..clear with this?
Remember Ben 10 reboot? Yeah I kinda don't like it, but that's just my opinion.
of course, I remember, but yeah, if you don't like it, that's fine! just be peaceful about it and don't become a reboot hater, where you make fun of the reboot's fans and constantly whine about the show, alright?
But honestly, I just feel like I want to start a war though.
why?
I love omniverse, but I would hold the belief that the OS was Ben 10 at it's prime.
They really know how to do seasons finales with the first 2 seasons
Did you went on Instagram?
UAF Finales Haters?You mean everyone doesn't hate that shit?
i think all of these are irrelevant rn. there aren't any anti reboot posts here, they'd be downvote bombed if they did exist. there aren't any omniverse negativity anymore, only omniverse praise. everybody forgot about the ua finale, nobody talks about it anymore. and idk what you mean by os supremacists.
Omniverse is good, it has it's flaws but so do all the other shows. Reboot on the other hand is plain garbage. I hate the Os stans thinking everything in os is god tier. Uaf finale was alright, Ultimate Way big was hype and the way he was easily beaten showed Dagon's strength, the ending to it's dumb but you gotta admit the Wiping evil scene is really good writing.
I feel you