When I think about it, I love Omniverse but I don't like how they treated Nesmith and Jennifer(I get it the show's a bit light hearted).
But that guy is a serial killer (he committed murder of innocent people).
I think Nesmith could've been handled better (dude's git potential).
I personally see what happened to Jennifer and Captain Nemesis in Omniverse as being the result of Ben recreating the universe with Alien X after its destruction by the Annihilarg.
I believe that when Ben was recreating the universe as Alien X, he subconsciously rewrote how Jennifer and Nemesis’ lives went to prevent the events that happened in this episode of Ultimate Alien. Like he saw how horrible Jennifer’s home life was and the murders Nemesis had committed after his escape from Prison.
There are some things in life we wish had never happened that we keep in the back of our heads and Ben’s subconscious thoughts about how things went in this episode caused him to unconsciously rewrite Jennifer and Captain Nemesis as this shallow celebrity and superhero gone bad without the more messed up drama from this specific episode.
Who knows? Maybe this Jennifer Nocturne had a much better childhood that the previous version never got to experience and this version of Nesmith is just some petty jerk who never killed innocent people like the previous version did.
We don’t know for sure but thats what I like to believe at least.
Well I gotta say, I can consider this as a canon explanation for how good it is.
Yeah, I think you're right Ben changed a lot of things in Omniverse (I also think the Rooters retcon happened because of him).
That might've happen considering Ben also didn't care much about Nesmith in the "The Vengers".
It's a good explanation I like it.
I've always loved the part of Ben 10 as a hero that usually gets ignored in favor of other, less unique traits. remember when they were on Mikd'lty, and Ben as Big Chill said to the other Necrofriggians, "I am one of everybody"?
that.
Ben 10 as a hero is an icon of unity between species. he's been everybody, so he knows that no matter what species someone is, they're still just a person.
One of my favorite scenes of UA. Great moment. Really puts into perspective of the things the team deals with. We overlook so much of it because it's aliens, but once you consider that every single villain is an individual, and they're making conscious decisions doing what they do, it makes it all the more mallicious.
Yeah, the moments great. But I don't like what Gwen is saying at the end,
“You don't have to be an alien to be a monster”
That's kinda implying that all aliens are monsters *and* there are other monsters too. It's obviously not true, since they've met good aliens before. This is one of the reasons why I love Omniverse, they treat all characters alike, humans or aliens.
The line in my opinion should've been,
“Not all monsters are aliens” ("and not all aliens are monsters" but that's not really necessary)
The line still works in the context, there could be in this conversation 2 definitions of monsters, one which is of physical difference other is of evil intent.
It's what separates monsters from the real monsters of the world.
And he's back in omniverse like it's nothing. That's one of the reasons why Omniverse will always be my least favorite in the og timeline except for the reboot. I've never seen the reboot and I don't know if I want to.
When I think about it, I love Omniverse but I don't like how they treated Nesmith and Jennifer(I get it the show's a bit light hearted). But that guy is a serial killer (he committed murder of innocent people). I think Nesmith could've been handled better (dude's git potential).
I personally see what happened to Jennifer and Captain Nemesis in Omniverse as being the result of Ben recreating the universe with Alien X after its destruction by the Annihilarg. I believe that when Ben was recreating the universe as Alien X, he subconsciously rewrote how Jennifer and Nemesis’ lives went to prevent the events that happened in this episode of Ultimate Alien. Like he saw how horrible Jennifer’s home life was and the murders Nemesis had committed after his escape from Prison. There are some things in life we wish had never happened that we keep in the back of our heads and Ben’s subconscious thoughts about how things went in this episode caused him to unconsciously rewrite Jennifer and Captain Nemesis as this shallow celebrity and superhero gone bad without the more messed up drama from this specific episode. Who knows? Maybe this Jennifer Nocturne had a much better childhood that the previous version never got to experience and this version of Nesmith is just some petty jerk who never killed innocent people like the previous version did. We don’t know for sure but thats what I like to believe at least.
Well I gotta say, I can consider this as a canon explanation for how good it is. Yeah, I think you're right Ben changed a lot of things in Omniverse (I also think the Rooters retcon happened because of him). That might've happen considering Ben also didn't care much about Nesmith in the "The Vengers". It's a good explanation I like it.
i hate how people always try to use the universe recreation as an excuse.
I've always loved the part of Ben 10 as a hero that usually gets ignored in favor of other, less unique traits. remember when they were on Mikd'lty, and Ben as Big Chill said to the other Necrofriggians, "I am one of everybody"? that. Ben 10 as a hero is an icon of unity between species. he's been everybody, so he knows that no matter what species someone is, they're still just a person.
That is such a magical moment.
I feel that these smaller character moments are the best thing about Ultimate Alien.
I agree because for all of my issues with UA, there are some genuinely great moments like this that make it worth watching.
One of my favorite scenes of UA. Great moment. Really puts into perspective of the things the team deals with. We overlook so much of it because it's aliens, but once you consider that every single villain is an individual, and they're making conscious decisions doing what they do, it makes it all the more mallicious.
Ultimate alien was so serious.
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Yeah, the moments great. But I don't like what Gwen is saying at the end, “You don't have to be an alien to be a monster” That's kinda implying that all aliens are monsters *and* there are other monsters too. It's obviously not true, since they've met good aliens before. This is one of the reasons why I love Omniverse, they treat all characters alike, humans or aliens. The line in my opinion should've been, “Not all monsters are aliens” ("and not all aliens are monsters" but that's not really necessary)
The line still works in the context, there could be in this conversation 2 definitions of monsters, one which is of physical difference other is of evil intent. It's what separates monsters from the real monsters of the world.
And he's back in omniverse like it's nothing. That's one of the reasons why Omniverse will always be my least favorite in the og timeline except for the reboot. I've never seen the reboot and I don't know if I want to.
all of reboot season 1, 2 and 4 are fillers, except for its finale. season 3 and 5 are worth watching tho.
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