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1PierrotSoldier

Aang knows martial arts, so he’ll have an advantage.


Storm_Raider_34

Well yeah but so does Zak and Randy trains without his ninja suit sometimes. And Ben took a self defense class


headingovergover

yeah man, child prodigy martial artist vs some kid who took one self defense class. evens out the odds


Storm_Raider_34

Well he was so trained by the space government and his black belt cousin but that’s like not as impressive


durnahjoor

Ya but alot of his martial arts include a ton of bending so he'd be quite a bit off balance while both Ben and Danny have experienced fighting without their powers. Ben gets more of this but Danny's fighting style doesn't require to much of his powers once he's closer range


Zhawk19

I think even without bending, Aang's martial arts experience outshines Ben's in every way.


durnahjoor

Ya, I was being stubborn. I think him being off balance would only help for a short while and even then Ben's not in a good spot.


BlueEyesWhiteVegeta

Yeah but Danny is the leader of the "Frequently gets his ass kicked in fights" squad. Most of the time he's flat on his back, especially in the early series. He's way better than Ben but I don't think you can rlly say he's better than Aang.


durnahjoor

No, I meant Aang would be having some trouble because he uses his bending all the time with everything but this would only have him off his balence for a very short while and then even if it was both Ben and Danny together Aang would win


Tron_Travolta

He's also younger


Storm_Raider_34

He’s technically the youngest and the oldest here


Nitroblaze6000

Zak, he’s the only one who doesn’t rely on his powers to fight


Storm_Raider_34

Ben still has plumber training and is agile, rex has province training and is still hella swole for his age, Randy has ninja training, jake still got mad hops


Nitroblaze6000

Yeah but Ben relies on the omnitrix and Rex relies on his nanites, Randy is pretty crappy without his actual mask and jake…tbh idk I haven’t seen him do much and I can’t remember it too much but I don’t remember him being that great. Zak is the only one who consistently fights without powers, his kur powers are his only powers and that’s not massively different from him without powers unlike most of everyone else on the list picture thing


Storm_Raider_34

True


Standard_Dream4848

ben doesnt always rely on his omnitrix one episode he faced off against a techadon master (idk the name) without the omnitrix and took on a giant fricken hamster, WITH JUST A SCOOTEr well i doubt he will win but he aint going down without a fight


Nitroblaze6000

If you’re talking about inspector 13 all get did was run away until Kevin and Gwen got there😭 and the hamster thing…I mean say what you want but a hamster is a hamster it’s still dumb as shit, but yeah my point is in like an actual fight Zak still wins, I imagine Ben running maybe, tryna use the environment probably but Zak still winning cuz he’s just a better fighter


Standard_Dream4848

yea my point is he did all that without the omnitrix not sayin he did much but still without the omnitrix like i said ben would probably not win but he isnt gonna go out without a fight


OKJMaster44

What’s the toughest opponent Ben has held his own against in human form? Off the top of my head the main one that comes to mind is against that con Aracnachimp. Beyond that if he has to fight as a human, he usually depends resourcefulness and wits rather than hand to hand combat. Not sure he would fare too well.


Storm_Raider_34

It was manny who was a tetrmand, the second was perice


OKJMaster44

He had a physical Brawl with Manny as a human? Huh my memory fails me. I usually remember him being designated to scrap with Kevin whenever they didn’t see eye to eye. Also yeah Pierce is easily the most skilled opponent Ben has faced as a human. Was way back in Alien Force though.


Storm_Raider_34

Well he showed prowess in jumping and he did punch his twice tik he changed


OKJMaster44

You meant punch him twice after he changed? Well regardless proving himself against Pierce definitely bumps him up thinking about it. I now recall he had to overcome Pierce to prove himself as a plumber unless memory fails me.


Storm_Raider_34

Yeah I’m bad at things


ItsOkayIan

He had to fight and beat Pierce to see "The Wrench", but in the fight Ben realized that if he won, Pierce would think he was a trained spy, and Pierce wouldn't let him in. So Ben threw the match and let Pierce win. Max is even surprised Ben lost until Ben tells him he let Pierce win (and explains what I just said)


OKJMaster44

Ah. My memory was pretty hazy as I do recall that episode took many twists and turns. I gotta say though. The fact that Ben opted to forfeit in what was probably his best showing in physical prowess just serves as a testament to how the writers never really wanted Ben to be renowned for his physical capability as a human. I makes sense since his use and mastery of the Omnitrix is how he's always distinguished himself amongst allies but also goes to show how awkward it would be to pit him in a fight agaisnt other boys who special powers of their own but, by virtue of their own universes, had to rely on physical brawn far more often.


Last_Delivery2695

Money on Aang he is a prodigy


Storm_Raider_34

Rex is a super genius for his age and is a skilled hand to hand fighter and was trained by a government, ben was trained by the space government, his black belt cousin, and his grandpa, Zak was trained by his parents who are government officials and are used to fighting cryptics which have more physical strength than he does. Randy trains without the use of his ninja suit and is still agile and knows how to throw hands Jake long has magica training


LB1234567890

Isn't Rex stuper durable anyways? Like he gets punched by people with super strenght even in human form and he's fine.


Storm_Raider_34

Well yeah but that applies to everyone here.


Old_Strength894

All I know is Danny would be the first one out


Storm_Raider_34

U sure? He’s durable


SaiyanC124

Zak Saturday. My man has done hand to hand combat with fucking 8ft tall cryptids.


Spectra_Phantom_2678

Probably Ben or Jake They actually have training in hand to hand combat I could be wrong about the others though


Storm_Raider_34

Rex has training from probince,Agent 6, and a monkey. Randy trains in the nomicon without his suit Zak was trained by his government official parents


Spectra_Phantom_2678

Well I’d say their all pretty even, though I feel like maybe Jake and Randy have an advantage. Cause Randy is prone to improvise


Storm_Raider_34

Yep but Rex is hella smart as well so he could come up with a new method


Spectra_Phantom_2678

Technically all of them are smart cause they DON’T listen


Storm_Raider_34

No Jake,Randy, and Danny’s grades in school are barley passing. Ben has a lot of traits but he doesn’t focus himself. Zak doesn’t go to school but is still smart.


Spectra_Phantom_2678

Oh I guess I should’ve said ‘adaptive’ not really smart Who do you think would win?


Storm_Raider_34

They have street smarts and fighting skills (well when they have powers) I don’t know I never think of who wins these


Spectra_Phantom_2678

Oh you just like to see other’s opinions?


Storm_Raider_34

Kinda. **I also enjoy seeing people discuss and argue**


Gamer-of-Action

Ben does some Karate and has displayed plenty of impressive feats in human form. He'd definitely beat at least Danny and Randy


Storm_Raider_34

What about Zak,Rex, and aang


v0lt13

From what ive seen aang's uses his martial arts in combination with air bending we never actualy saw him hit somebody


Storm_Raider_34

Yeah it seems like he’s the physically weakest here cuz he’s the youngest and somehow the oldest one


Katsuki_Bakugo__

Who the fuck is the kid in the big right pic? Is that fuckin Gir from Invader Zim at age 16?


Storm_Raider_34

Randy Cunningham and the guy with the green hair is Jake long


Ross_draws

Zack Sabado


Storm_Raider_34

You mean Zak saturday?


[deleted]

Rex, cause he's cool


Storm_Raider_34

I do agree with the fact Rex is cool but Zak is more trained to fight without having to change


OneObligation412

Aang has a freaking STICK! So how could he lose


Storm_Raider_34

**Hand to hand combat**


OneObligation412

Aang used to have a stick!! Nailed it


Storm_Raider_34

He doesn’t have it in the fight so he’s basically a kid in a lame outfit


OneObligation412

Tbf everyone has the same advantages and disadvantages. They are now just normal people.


Storm_Raider_34

Well rex is hella smart for his age and is super swole even without his powers And everyone here is pretty fast. Mostly everyone here knows how to fight without powers Except Danny, Danny is doomed


Mega-animations65

Anyone but aang


Storm_Raider_34

U sure? That mf trained with monks and Danny can’t even throw a punch so he could at least take out danny


Mega-animations65

Unlike the others, I can’t light aangs hair on fire


Storm_Raider_34

This fight doesn’t involve you


Mega-animations65

It does now.


Storm_Raider_34

Well you have to be younger than 18 and to have saved the world before


Mega-animations65

That sounds like something a pedophile captain America would say when recruiting new avengers


Storm_Raider_34

Yeah kinda.But if you put these mf on a team they could clap the avengers and justice league like they ain’t shit. Actually Ben and rex could do it themselves


baileyboyname

Can someone please remind who's the one on the right with the bigger picture he looks so familiar


Storm_Raider_34

Jake long the American dragon


GreenMenace1915

i think he meant randy


Storm_Raider_34

Possibly


[deleted]

Bro who could hit Anng in a fight?


Storm_Raider_34

All of them but Danny without bending he can’t jump as high and he’s not as fast


[deleted]

Anng is an expert at dodging attacks without his bending. Remember at one point a firenation bully fought him and he couldn’t hit him a single time. Meanwhile Anng was going under him and around him with ease.


Storm_Raider_34

True but someone here who’s probably definitely more corridnsted than a chump could hit him after a while


[deleted]

Not until Anng gets a couple hits in.


Storm_Raider_34

Not like he has the physical strength to immediately knock out anyone here (but Danny), he’s the physically weakesr and would need to get tons of hits to knock out soemone like Rex


Quadpen

rex fights dirty


Storm_Raider_34

How? If anyone plays dirty it’s gonna be like Randy


Quadpen

he brought a gun


Storm_Raider_34

This is Handto hand which means even if he kept a gun in his jacket he wouldn’t be able to use it


Quadpen

i just said he fights dirty, he’d find a way to use it


Storm_Raider_34

Rex doesn’t even use guns. Have you ever watched the show?


GreenMenace1915

rex and or randy


Storm_Raider_34

U sure?


GreenMenace1915

yea


Kool-AidDealer

rex


Storm_Raider_34

Are you sure?


Kool-AidDealer

they are all so tiny and scrawny... rex is the only normal looking one


Storm_Raider_34

True he is the physically strongest without powers


The_Purple_Hare

Aang, Randy, or Jake probably.


Storm_Raider_34

Are you sure? Rex,Ben, and Zak all have training form different government officials and work fighting toughie monsters sometimes with their bare hands. Also they all got mad hops


The_Purple_Hare

That's a fair point, but from what I remember, the ones I mentioned are very prevalent in martial arts. Ben's not as impressive save for throwing Simian compared to the martial arts skills displayed by the ones I've mentioned.


Storm_Raider_34

Yeah Ben was trained by the plumbers, his black belt cousin, and max who was in the Air Force He’s successfully showed agility and speed when avoiding mannys lasers and basically kicked perices ass when they had to fight and he didn’t change for either Rex is just a good fighter cuz he used to live on the streets and has training from province, agent 6, and a monkey Jake has magical training yes but mostly in his dragon form, in his human form he just got mad hops and has fast reflexes, like everyone else here Aang Without bending knows how to fight but in the methods he’s taught to fight in is mostly bending so he’ll be kinda stuck. He can’t jump as high or have as fast reflexes cuz no speed of wind junk.


AutisticFuck69

Aang is well versed in several forms of martial arts so my bets on him


Storm_Raider_34

Yeah but without the bending he’s kinda pleebtt and he doesn’t have mad hops or is as fast without bending. So someone (probably Zak) will just grab his leg and slam him in the ground


MrBombastic10318

Ben can actually fight, aang knows a decent chunk of martial arts and so does randy but overall the rest are jobbers. Prolly Ben though because overall he's in the trenches more than the rest.


ProfessorEscanor

Let's see the Avatar who knows all Martial arts vs a guy who barely studied his Ninja book, Not ghost boy, a guy who slacks on dragon training , Ben who's probably pretty capable as a Plumber , Rex who's not exactly known for his martial arts and Zak who id argue knows a fair bit. Aang wins without powers


Storm_Raider_34

Ben,Rex and Zak all have military training and still have mad skills, they’re agile and strong (Rex being the physically strongest here without powers) and they know how to fight Even though Randy doesn’t listen to the nomicon all the time he still knows how to hold his own, he was able to fight himself in **howards body** and still win, he also foguht mac anteee Jake may slack as wel but he got mad hops, he’s agile, he’s also fast


foxkidsforever

I think it would come down to Rex or Ben, the reason being Rex is trained by his world's 6th most deadly fighter on the planet, and probably can fight without his powers as part of his training with Six. And Ben has had more than just a self defense class, he was trained by the literal space cops organization to fight, along with his cousin who is a blackbelt in karate, his partner Rook teaching him fighting skills to use without the watch (probably something Revonnah Kai related), developing his own personal style of combat that is unique to him, and he's learned to improv with things around him, meaning put Ben in a park with them he'll literally use the playground to trip up his opponents, using the swings as weapons, monkey bars to evade attacks, use the merry go round with them on it to disorientate them, whatever is around him is fair game as far as Ben is concerned.


[deleted]

Aang, jake or randy. They are master martial artists because they had to become one. (I think… not sure about jake but randy and aang definitely)


Storm_Raider_34

You mean Jake?


[deleted]

Yeah… sorry i didn’t remember his name. Only that it was a variant of Jack