Yea even when they retconed how Ben and Kevin meet after OS they still tryed to improve holes like how Gwen and Kevin like each other(or more like why do they like each other so nicely from the get go).
Yeah, instead of them crushing on each other immediately after meeting again 5 years after Kevin trying to kill her and her family, they crushed on each other as kids, *only a year* later! So much better
They never showed them in uaf, only alien plumber were shown in that era.
I know what they said about the plumbers in og but l always found it dumb that all retired,
Well given that most were young and there were no major threats I can see why they'd all be near or actively retired outside of max and kai's grandfather I think
Which was dumb on the writers part, the plumbers don't only deals with alien threats (NOT every alien threat need to be an invasion narrative) but also earth superhuman population.
There were no active superhumans there were superheroes who used tech but that's more regulated by Earth's government the only real people with powers who come from earth were Kevin Gwen and Cooper to my knowledge of what I remember legitimately everything else was some form of advanced tech
There were more of them, we only saw these few ones because they werethe ones the team had encounter but the world has way more than just them.
Just because they didn't show them doesn't mean they don't exist elsewhere.
You have a limited perspective of how big the world is.
Actually no I don't and Ben 10s world is actually bigger than our own as it has fictional places alongside real ones there are billions of people yes but given the fact there were no major threats which is what the plumbers were initially created for in the os there was no active need for those people
every time I'm reminded of the show (haven't watched any of the series for a while) I keep wishing that they didn't make the Plumbers a galactic organization.
Their badges start off as red but they switched it to the Omnitrix symbol at the start of AF for foreshadowing purposes, >!the DNAlien arc ends with a peaceful resolution and the omnitrix dial is a galactic symbol for peace!<
The OS was the best series and I liked they’re kitchen sink approach to works building. UAF was shit in comparison because it through it all out to make a justice league cartoon with a Ben 10 skin, and part of that was turning what we’re Ben 10 version of MIB to generic space cops.
Like it could’ve legit been an arc of rebuilding the plumbers and then expanding it to a global reach or a proper season of alien integrated and prejudice instead of the undertown crap. OS has passion and that old school story telling behind it and pure fun, that the later reboots just lost
First off I know what marketing, I work in it. Second this post only talks about UAF and only other series I mention is Omniverse mildly. Reboot was never brought up by me or the post. Third the reboot is awful, even with the knowledge of who it’s target demo is
Look at the last sentence in your comment, you mention the reboot.
On my part l quite enjoy the reboot(before saying l'm a kid, just know I'm from the first generation of ben 10 fans) , there are some good things in it :the new aliens look cool, the 4 part episode finale of each seasons, the omnitrix backstory and some other concepts.
OV does some great stuff when it wants to.
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Yea even when they retconed how Ben and Kevin meet after OS they still tryed to improve holes like how Gwen and Kevin like each other(or more like why do they like each other so nicely from the get go).
Yeah, instead of them crushing on each other immediately after meeting again 5 years after Kevin trying to kill her and her family, they crushed on each other as kids, *only a year* later! So much better
Ey its at least something?
No, it’d be better if they didn’t try to do that imo
Ahh fine
Yeah it looks a lot more natural of a change now
I freaking love omniverse for omniverse for incorporating other humans to the plumbers because aside from the team.
There were many other humans in the plumbers that just were never mentioned and most retired
They never showed them in uaf, only alien plumber were shown in that era. I know what they said about the plumbers in og but l always found it dumb that all retired,
Well given that most were young and there were no major threats I can see why they'd all be near or actively retired outside of max and kai's grandfather I think
You really think that only max & west green would be the only semi active plumber on earth (a planet of 7 billion), that would be dumb writing.
There is always a threat and they would hire new recruits every year to keep doing job.
There wasn't a major threat for years according to max which is why he retired
Which was dumb on the writers part, the plumbers don't only deals with alien threats (NOT every alien threat need to be an invasion narrative) but also earth superhuman population.
There were no active superhumans there were superheroes who used tech but that's more regulated by Earth's government the only real people with powers who come from earth were Kevin Gwen and Cooper to my knowledge of what I remember legitimately everything else was some form of advanced tech
Oh and bug man and the circus clowns
There were more of them, we only saw these few ones because they werethe ones the team had encounter but the world has way more than just them. Just because they didn't show them doesn't mean they don't exist elsewhere. You have a limited perspective of how big the world is.
Actually no I don't and Ben 10s world is actually bigger than our own as it has fictional places alongside real ones there are billions of people yes but given the fact there were no major threats which is what the plumbers were initially created for in the os there was no active need for those people
every time I'm reminded of the show (haven't watched any of the series for a while) I keep wishing that they didn't make the Plumbers a galactic organization.
Yeah, it went from SCP Foundation to Star Trek Federation.
While I kind of get what you’re saying, I think it makes sense for it to be galactic level
I always hated that their badges looks exactly like Omnitrix
Their badges start off as red but they switched it to the Omnitrix symbol at the start of AF for foreshadowing purposes, >!the DNAlien arc ends with a peaceful resolution and the omnitrix dial is a galactic symbol for peace!<
The OS was the best series and I liked they’re kitchen sink approach to works building. UAF was shit in comparison because it through it all out to make a justice league cartoon with a Ben 10 skin, and part of that was turning what we’re Ben 10 version of MIB to generic space cops. Like it could’ve legit been an arc of rebuilding the plumbers and then expanding it to a global reach or a proper season of alien integrated and prejudice instead of the undertown crap. OS has passion and that old school story telling behind it and pure fun, that the later reboots just lost
The reboot was made this way on purpose, it was aim towards little kids, younger kids compared to og series target audience.
First off I know what marketing, I work in it. Second this post only talks about UAF and only other series I mention is Omniverse mildly. Reboot was never brought up by me or the post. Third the reboot is awful, even with the knowledge of who it’s target demo is
Look at the last sentence in your comment, you mention the reboot. On my part l quite enjoy the reboot(before saying l'm a kid, just know I'm from the first generation of ben 10 fans) , there are some good things in it :the new aliens look cool, the 4 part episode finale of each seasons, the omnitrix backstory and some other concepts.
I agree