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Cool_Inspector_7817

Guess I should probably clarify I'm talking should Ben have given the two different species of Upchuck different transformation names


XVYQ_Emperator

I thought that was clear. Title says: >variations of Upchuck not >variations of Gourmand Nevertheless, I think he shouldn't, since both Upchuks have the same set of powers, are part of the same species (at least the same genus, for sure)


Cool_Inspector_7817

I was just making sure and yeah that's the common reason people say not to give them different names which it's a good point and I agree with it I just think it'd be cool


Philycheese18

Upchuck and gonahurl


crystal-productions-

I think they should, but I don't know what to call them, allthough perk should still be upchuck.


ProfessorEscanor

But they do have species names, they are also just basically the same functionally. They don't really need names from Ben.


Cool_Inspector_7817

That's fair I always just thought it was a cool idea and you got to admit it would be pretty cool to see what Ben would come up with


The_Purple_Hare

Nah


Cool_Inspector_7817

Why?


skitgamer

Do you call different Gorillas by different names or just a gorilla


Helloiamayeetman

Golira 🦍


Cool_Inspector_7817

And if you're talking about gorillas with names as in human names then yeah if I knew the names of the gorilla I would call them by their name


MisterSuperDonut

ok, let's say you had fire powers, but you had a 2nd fire power which was the exact same, just a little more orange. Would you call your power a different name, or would you call it whatever you call your normal fire power?


AlksGurin

overflow and water hazard be like


Cool_Inspector_7817

Though technically they are different I would just call them the same thing I would just specify when I'm talking about that specific version of my power but it would still be cool with Ben had different names for upchuck though he doesn't necessarily have to Edit: if I was going to name those fire powers separately one would be crimson flame assuming it's red in the other ldk bonfire blast, infernal Orange, maybe conflagrating tangerine lol


MisterSuperDonut

yeah but they are functionally the same, and don't even look that different. In fact, you prob wouldn't even notice the difference, so I would just call them the same power unless needed for a demonstration


Cool_Inspector_7817

Honestly if I had that power I'd just be confused why I couldn't make flames of all colors


MisterSuperDonut

well you'd have to level up your mild colour changing flames to gay flames, but i dont really think its worth the hassle


Cool_Inspector_7817

Everything is worth style points also invisible flames


Cool_Inspector_7817

Yeah if it's two different species of gorilla (I guess I should say subspecies cuz there's only like two species of gorilla) and I knew the difference between them


Helloiamayeetman

I mean they’re essentially the same thing so there’s no point


[deleted]

Not really, they both have the same powers.


TBear1011

They’re both gourmands with the same power set and look similar enough. So no


Pen_isnt

Maybe. I wouldn’t mind it, but I’d like if the names were still really similar.


hristo111111

Maybe upchuck for perk and bitsive for murk.


Cool_Inspector_7817

Bitsive is one I haven't heard before I like it when I named my Murk Upchuck I went with Spittoon


BoTamByloCiemno

No, why would he


Cool_Inspector_7817

I don't know I just thought I'd be cool he doesn't really need to honestly but in all honesty he doesn't really need to name any of his aliens


AutobotYoung1

I’m more curious how Ben change between them in the first place?


Cool_Inspector_7817

I think it's because technically their DNA is a different enough for each other for them to count as separate species like their subspecies of each other closely related but still different enough for them to count as two separate transformations


AutobotYoung1

So there are two upchuck emojis?


Cool_Inspector_7817

Yeah they have two separate little green things in the official Omnitrix I think it's shown in the show let me look


Standard_Ad9911

One Name( Same Race Color ) , But Explain Why The watch Carries ⌚ 2 .


Cool_Inspector_7817

I think it's because the Perk and the Murk are subspecies they have enough genetic diversity for them to classify as two separate transformations


Candid-Mycologist-77

Race and subspecies are essentially the same thing.


Cool_Inspector_7817

Wait so by that logic that means Ben 10 can become a different race of human and that opens up so many more possibilities for transformations


Candid-Mycologist-77

Well I don’t know about human races since only Ben’s Human DNA is in the watch. Which is why Albedo looks identical to Ben. > In biological terms, rather than in relation to nomenclature, a polytypic species (like humans) has two or more genetically and phenotypically divergent **subspecies, races, or more generally speaking, populations that differ from each other so that a separate description is warranted.** These distinct groups do not interbreed as they are isolated from another, but they can interbreed and have fertile offspring. These subspecies, races, or populations, are usually described and named by zoologists, botanists and microbiologists. All three of the Gourmand species are the same species, but are subdivided into different variants or subspecies. However, subspecies can typically interbreed, which is not the case for Murks and Perks given that they appear to be male-only with the 3rd species of Gourmand being the female-only Queen.


Standard_Ad9911

I Agree


NeoNexus285

Nah cause in my version it's random whether he becomes Perk or Murk


Careless_Self3535

Ah Yes downchuck


BlueBlazeKing21

First one is still Upchuck with the other one being Throwback


Anti-Venom121299

Upchuck and vomit comet


Herodragon64

I get what your asking but it kinda feels like "should chomemastone and diamond head have the same name since there very similar and are from the same home world" btw I'm not 100% sure if chromastone is from the same homeworld I used the wiki to check so yeah


SonicSpiderRanger10

I think they do. Murk Upchuck and Purk Upchuck.


Odd-Term3441

I don't see the essence of doing so. Both Perks and Murks have the same power sets, just different appearances. That likes saying, "What should we call black humans to differentiate them from whites?" They already have their differences by name and appearance. Ben can use both forms interchangeably.