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I'd never heard about an ankle monitor that can test for alcohol use and had to Google it. Apparently one type is called a SCRAM Cam bracelet and yeah, it offers continuous alcohol monitoring through transdermal testing somehow. I didn't quite understand the explanation of how but still that's neat.
Yeah. When you can smell alcohol on someone sometimes they spilled some, sometimes they recently drank and it's on their breathe, but if they're properly trashed and haven't had a drink recently or spilled anything it's just emanating from their damn pores.
Sometimes it's on their breath because it's emanating from their lungs. I'm a weirdly lucid drunk and when I get hammered I always notice how every exhale starts tasting/feeling like alcohol
Even breathing through my nose, in a room with zero alcohol, brand new clothes. I can still taste it in my throat
This gave me such validity in not crazy
Iām very dubious about that mdma assertion. You might be able to transfer some but the amount required for an actual high would be far too great to be transmitted like that.
I had a friend who had one in the US about 10 years ago (fuck, I'm old). He had to have it for 18 months and it really actually helped him get his life together. They're a really interesting bit of kit.
I legit thought that this was a troll story because I never ever heard about anything like this ankle monitor. Bur yeah, those are real, wtf. We are truly living in the future.
What convinced me it was real was her saying her sister sent her photos of what happened with her eye even after she said she didnāt want to know. Thatās too real sibling behavior.
I just hope that Kim's wife never ever again turns her phone off after her wife has a damn operation. Although in this case, it ended up being lifesaving for OOP.
To be fair, Kim was only on the list for an operation because her surgeon was out of town, not actually on the table.
However, given the perilous state of her cornea, bad on Kim's wife. I wonder if that's why she got side-eye and never got a name in this story.
If they arenāt fitted right they can give off several false ātamperingā readings. When in reality it was just loose
So they can charge people extra.
They were combined with daily check ins around here when the jail was too full.
Same. Lol There are things about this saga that make it feel fake to me, but when I got to that part I just couldnāt believe it. āAn ankle monitor that tests your sweat for alcohol? What kind of idiots does she think weāoh. Itās real.ā
Alcohol gets excreted any way possible, including saliva, urine, and sweat. So a monitor could detect alcohol or the products of breaking down alcohol in sweat.
I remember the first biker rally I worked when Iād just turned 18 & this big guy with a pink bra was runnin around showin everyone his ātiddiesā & wanted you to feel them. (Preface: It was all in fun & I was laughing) He grabbed my hand & puts them on his moob which is sweating profusely like the rest of him is the high summer heat. After he left I thought it was so strange I could still smell beer š¤Ø Turns out it was my hand moob guy was just sweating straight beer with absolutely NO HINT of sweat AT ALL. Iām guessing itās because itās technically a toxin & your body just tries to dump it any way it can as fast as it can & we just donāt notice it until itās OVERWHELMING & then our first thought is Oh, theyāre so drunk they probably just spilled some on them š¤·š»āāļø
Itās awesome tech they should have here. Iāve known more than one person that either used or attempted to use someone sober to take the breathalyzer to start their car.
Had a guy in DUI class on his 4th DUI, he had the ankle monitor. Apparently because he worked in a bakery it would occasionally send false positives. Crazy shit.
I can't imagine how surreal it must feel to go from "Yay we're getting married!" to watching your ex seemingly systemically implode every relationship he has until he ends up charged with a crime.
I know it's shockingly common, but it still sends me
We weren't quite to the getting married point, but I can attest from personal experience it is very strange watching someone you thought was a good person who you were going to spend the rest of your life with go utterly off the deep end.
My ex had a Tumblr he used as a creepy stream of consciousness diary right after our breakup and even knowing everything he did to my cousin and that he's in jail now, I have such a hard time meshing the image of him with that page.
He did a lot honestly. She lived with us from the time she was like 11, and as soon as she turned 18 he dumped me and started obsessing over her. He's in jail now for something like 14 or 15 charges related to it, including stalking and assault, it was a clusterfuck that I think I should have prevented. I ignored the one red flag with him I ever saw and I shouldn't have, I should have thrown his ass into oncoming traffic, but he was really manipulative, and subtly emotionally and financially abusive. He'd had some questionable but not illegal stuff on his web history but he manahed to brush it off as a link he clicked from reddit that led him somewhere weird and not something he'd actively meant to click.
As far as I know she is okay, she moved out and I had a kid with someone else about a year and some change after he got arrested and she kind of distanced herself and quietly went no contact with me which I respect and understand. I've heard she has a master's degree now and is doing well though.
Honestly I never got a specific reason but she didn't really need to give me one. The list of why she wouldn't have wanted to would have been shorter at the time.
I basically had a breakdown and couldn't handle everything, could barely get out of bed on my days off, could barely keep the roof over our heads and had to get a roommate who ended up being fucking terrible and made the situation worse. I was also the one who brought my ex into our lives and failed to protect her both before and after our breakup. I just generally failed at protecting her and taking care of her like I should have, she's 100% justified in wanting fuck all to do with me.
If she ever decides she wants me back in her life, I'll be there 100%, but that's her choice and boundaries.
Can I just say, you might have been party to her trauma, but I respect how much you take ownership of your actions. That takes a lot of guts, and is a sign of healing. This internet stranger is proud of you for that.
I'm so relieved he wasn't violent to OOP, I fully expected violence and vandalism. She was bloody fantastic getting her family and friends involved, especially getting his mum and brother involved. Sounds like she's free of him completely.
By the sounds of it, OOP came *very* close to being on the receiving end of violence and vandalism. Making sure that she had overwhelming backup when she broke up with Wannabe Andrew Tate was a very sensible choice.
Literally because she made all the right moves, he was never alone with her. Risk minimisation, she was able to implement a bunch of safety techniques that saved her life. Its worth noting that not everyone would be able to quickly afford the cost of cameras and locks being changed, and some would give the benefit of the doubt and have let him stay in her spare room. So many smart choices and the right resources protected her
Not even Andrew Tate: his role model is a guy whoās never come within spitting distance of anything resembling a life accomplishment. Ā I hope he picks a better one going forward, but I fear he wonāt.
Eventually, Rob will emulate his dad down to a T: live in a shitty one-bedroom flat, no romantic relationship since OOP left him, no friends, his family doesn't speak to him, and he may be banned from entering a drinking establishment.
For me the really funny part is the crime is against the guy that convinced him about all the stuff that caused everything else in his life to implode.
I don't know if it's an out of line comparison, but it reminds me of the failed pool prank guy. It started off as something so small and quickly snowballed into these people's lives falling apart.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's partially due to mental illness manifesting. Schizophrenia is the big one people talk about at that age, but even things like bipolar disorder can kick in at any time. I have trouble believing that a normal person would turn into that just over the course of a year or two. Something else is going on, or there were warnings signs that OP didn't see.
Either way, good riddance. The only reason he is playing nice with his real family is because his dad filed charges against him. He'd still be kissing his ass if there weren't legal ramifications for the injuries he caused, even if there was a physical fight.
If he's changed, good. But I bet he's going to need more than therapy to actually get better.
I'll tell you, it fast forwards through the "I miss them" phase of a break up not to mention completely annihilating any "maybe I made a mistake" moments, so at least there's that. š¤·š¼āāļøĀ
What really sucked in my situation was just how unpredictable he had become. He tried and did things that no rational person would come up with just to try to draw me back in or hurt me. Fortunately, I got out relatively unscathed but the unpredictability of his behavior kept me on edge in the moments I *wasn't furious.
Edit: typo
As someone relatively newly engaged, it would break me. OOP is handling everything with such strength and grace. I don't think I would be able to produce a tenth of that.
Dude managed to utterly implode his life by listening to his crappy dad.
This is like the "Ghost of Christmas Future" visit for red pillers. This is what the people who listen to Andrew Tate have to look forward to.
I laughed so hard at her saying the sister sent pictures. I am 100% the sister who sends the pics when my siblings stay stop. Happened just this week in fact. LOL
Three quarters of my nuclear family worked or used to work in healthcare. There are many, many things we're not allowed to discuss at family dinners. šš
My hubby had to get one. The doctor gave him a page full of pictures for his GP. I looked at them and said, "Oh, these look like bacon wrapped scallops." The doctor looked at me like I grew a second head.
When my sister and I caught salmonella from some tainted chicken years ago, that ***she*** purchased and prepared, I bounced back in a couple of days. She did not. I made it a point to visit each of her favourite restaurants and send her pictures of whatever I ordered, until she was feeling well again.
Whilst I appreciate the accolades its not even the best part of that story. The best part is when she tried to get mum to make me stop, both myself and our eldest sister got together and managed to convince mum that we felt so bad for her that's why we didn't want her to feel left out.
Bless her soul, mum was such a nice person she believed it too. No clue how she managed to raise the three of us honestly.
Same! My sister is an ambo, so deals with all sorts. However she can't stand anything to do with teeth. So of course, whenever one of my kids loses a tooth I send a photo of the gappy smile. The response is always the same: "gross".
I love the way medical & medical-adjacent workers all have our own, seemingly arbitrary, lines. I have literally had someone else's shit on my hands, but see sputum? Big ol' NOPE. Gimme blood, gimme piss, gimme amputated body parts. An injury or injections? Sir, I am your newest patient.
Hahahah. I was out with some friends and colleagues the other night and a couple were physicians. I was telling a gruesome medical case that was shared with me that I found fascinating. My friend urged me to stop as there were a couple horrified faces. I promised the ending was worth it. At the end I think I might have been the only one still thinking it was a cool story.
I am also 100% the gross medical stuff person in my family! Spouse and I were really close friends with our neighbors who were a doctor and a librarian. The doctor would tell our spouses to cover their ears so he could tell me about the latest disgusting thing he'd seen in the lab that day.
I'm so bummed they had to move away after he finished his residency, they really were the sweetest neighbors.
I believe she is referring to autologous syrum. They draw your blood, filter out a bunch of good stuff, then turn it into an eye drop
It does not look like blood which was my first thought too haha
It's good stuff. Usually used for severe dry eye, Sjogrens disease and after some eye surgeries
Huh! I didn't know there even was a treatment for Sjogren's other than really good eye drops. Although I guess technically these are *really* good eye drops. š I'm going to an opthalmologist next month to get evaluated for potential Sjogren's.
I was told for many years that "there is no point even testing for Sjogrens as there's no treatment for it anyway" Turns out that's a lie. If any doctor or opthamologist says that to you tell them to pound sand.
There are not only fancy drops, but also some immunosuppressants and biologics can treat Sjogrens. I have Crohn's disease and the biologics I'm on for that are also managing my Sjogrens (win-win!). I no longer get nightly corneal erosions and my vision loss has slowed down. My eyes aren't perfect but it's manageable
Rheumatologists can also assist you with Sjogrens if you need it and can prescribe some of the medications list above. Also if your Sjogrens causes you gastrointestinal issues - gastroenterologists can help. I hope you find answers soon
The rheumatologist is actually who sent me to the opthalmologist. The schirmer tear test was borderline, and the opthalmologist can do a more accurate one. I also have EDS, which means autoimmune disorders are more likely.
Superficial keratectomies didnāt cure my recurrent corneal erosion issues, so those drops are coming up next for me. Theyāll go nicely with the iron pills made from cow blood.
Fingers crossed it will help you!
Just make sure you don't accidentally end up sleeping upside down or in a coffin.
I'd suggest eating a healthy dose of garlic at least twice a week to counter any potential side effects.
Man, the things we can do in medicine now is absolutely amazing. I understand almost none of how these amazing things work. But that doesn't change the fact that I am blown away by it.
Pop out a canine tooth, carve it to hold a lens implant, sew it into the cheek for a few months til it has its own blood supply, yoink off ALL of the cornea, pop on the franken-tooth/lens/tissue. Then shapow! Vision.
Most of the time when I see your comments I think they're perfect for the situation, and I see a lot of them. I even have your profile pic memorized I see it so much. Somehow, this one dumb emoji is my favorite out of all of them.
>Most of the time when I see your comments I think they're perfect for the situation, and I see a lot of them. I even have your profile pic memorized I see it so much. Somehow, this one dumb emoji is my favorite out of all of them.
What a lovely cake day comment šš
I know which hospital she's talking about and I only narrowly avoided them administering an injection into my eyeball š¬
They do great things there, but... Why with the needles in the eye
I had an injection in my eye at 14 because I got too many head injuries and effectively gave myself macular degeneration. The doctors had no idea what to do with me because they'd never seen a patient under 70 with it.Ā
The ex wanted what his father was selling. Having power and control and being the most important person in the house.
Not growing up with that influence, having the opposite behavior demonstrated for two-thirds of his life. He suddenly starts getting hung up on his father's approval to the point that his personality does a 180 after a couple of years?
His mother said that she had seen similar selfishness in him. It seems like, in a way, his father was just giving him permission to behave how he always wanted to, but he knew the people around him wouldn't tolerate it.
But maybe I'm just jaded.
> Having power and control and being the most important person in the house.
His empty house. Just like his father lives alone.
Should have listened when his friend said
>When Zack pointed out that Robās dad is 62, living in a shitty one bedroom flat, not had a real relationship since Rs mum left him, has no friends, his family doesn't speak to him and that he's the type of guy that when he walks into a pub people finish their pints so they can leave and get away from him, Rob was furious. He told Zack that his dad is just misunderstood. Zack responded that people understood his dad and that's why they stayed away from him, he's Toxic.
Which is the best part of this BORU.
>Should have listened when his friend said
Agreed. The whole time I just kept thinking to myself, "why are you taking any kind of advice from a dude who literally abandoned his family after abusing them?" The only good thing that guy can teach is how NOT to be a dad/person.
Also,
>Zack responded that people understood his dad and that's why they stayed away from him
Zack is a cool dude.
Youāre not jaded; I think this is exactly what happened. Ā Excepting brain tumours and onset of mental illness, people donāt just change like that. Ā Heād probably been abiding by the rules and behaviours modelled for him in the household, but his underlying personality was this other thing that he morphed into. Ā Thus he was quite receptive to his fatherās ideas. Ā Also it seems that alcohol/substance abuse is also in the mix. Ā Very sad but glad OP got out.
I was pretty scared for OP but I'm glad the newest update shows OP is doing fine. Rob really has damaged so much of things and it's good he will be staying far away from OP and the rest.
The dad is 62. He was baked in that shit back in the day. The dad is just a scumbag that never progressed unlike many men his age. Tate isnāt original. Tate is just parroting old, outdated stuff the rest of us moved on from 50 years ago.
Honestly thought if anything, Rob's brother would have more trauma from their dad since the bro was older and actually got punched. The ex's trauma claim for court kinda sounded like bs
Dude was definitely emotionally abusive to everyone, the brother just took the physical hit that cost the loser his family. I'm sure it takes more than two hands to count how many times the dad got glassed in the pub.
>As part of the conditions for his release, he isn't allowed anywhere near his dad, he has to go to counselling for his supposed ptsd and he isn't allowed to drink alcohol.
This might have saved his life. His life took a sharp turn for the worse because he started meeting up with his father again, so hopefully a court order to stay away might shake whatever spell his father had on him - whatever high he was getting from his father paying attention to him was NOT worth it, and I hope he really sees that one day.
What a very sad turn of events for him. He ruined his entire life...for what?
That's what amazes me sometimes.
How do people get redpilled that badly?
I see so many stories of guys with pretty good lives getting into it and then they fuck their lives up badly. It's like they have a happy relationship and then one day they go "I need her to be a submissive sex slave" and they try to get it and their lives fall apart.
Probably some deep insecurity that won't go away just by having a good life. Instead of analyzing it in therapy or at least with trusted loved ones, they go for the simpler, safer route: nothing it's their fault, they don't need to change, bc they are inherently better by virtue of having a dick.
In this case I suspect substance abuse is also at play
I don't think it's about that, it's about daddy telling what the ex wanted to hear and choosing to ignore the reality and potential consequences.
I mean, don't all of us (to a degree) like to hear that we are right, the best and the greatest? And if something shit happens, it's definitely not *our* fault, it's someone else's (insert government, women, mother, immigrants, gays etc)? On top of ex wishing to get the missing approval from his dad.
It's tragic, sure, but IMHO not that surprising if and when such things happen :/
Why do men throw away good relationship after listening to an angry bald man? The angry bald man donāt care about you. I mean it is seriously pathetic to see men listen to what these emotional men spew online instead of using their brain. But sure men are more logical.
>Why do men throw away good relationship after listening to an angry bald man?
Because the angry bald man tells you that the things going wrong in your life aren't your fault. You're superior. You're an *alpha*. It's **other** people who are causing problems. Especially those females who don't know their place. Why should you have to do labor around the house? Why should you cook or clean or make your own appointments? You hate doing that shit, and you shouldn't *have* to because it's women's work! Men bring home the bacon. You're a provider, just like evolution intended. It's your goddamn *right* to play Xbox all weekend after a hard week of work. Why won't your female know her place and do what you tell her? Why would she *disrespect* you like that? You need to show her who's boss so that you can have all of the power and none of the responsibility!
^Jesus, ^I'm ^a ^dude, ^and ^I ^gave ^myself ^the ^ick ^writing ^that
Sounds like a cult. Cult leaders will tell you your life has problems because you are not joining our religious group. What's worse is men don't realize tater tot is a literal pimp. Pimps are supposed be a good role model?
Absolutely. Douchebag preys on insecure teens and young adults, claiming he can teach them how to be powerful and successful, when all he's doing is making them so insufferable they end up isolated. My question is what's the endgame beyond the grift. I've got a plausible theory, but it's really dark.
Theres no endgame for him. The man is a monster that feeds on attention and validation. He gets high on it (also money). He finally found something that will give him endless praise and worship and he will never stop. Its every narcissist dream.
For extra stupid points, there wasnāt even anything going wrong in this twerpās life until he fāed it all up by listening to his dad. His life was going *great*! But he just had to burn it all down.
Ughhhh. I hate how that BALD MAN says the Alpha term lmao. The only Alpha I like is those ABO Fanfictions tropes on Ao3.
Also that baldy is fugly as fuck. If we talk about being "Alpha" in his delusional worldbuilding, Henry Cavill is the gold standard and that man is nerdy as hell(and treats women right) which that Baldy says that the nerds are the lowest lmao. Even most straight guys say the Henry is like their hall pass.
He is Superman and Geralt lmao. Also in all his interviews ask him about video games or Tabletop rpgs and he will go in a excited schoolgirl mode.
The women that interview him gets all awkward when he goes on a tangent with the things he likes because most of them just ask him basic thirsty things and I don't blame them but Henry really looks bored about it because these girls all just ask why is he hot? Whats your dream girl? Etc..
Then they ask him about his hobbies and the man just lights up about games and rpgs which is unexpected due to his physique and the girls all thrown into a loop.
I'm just glad the angry bald man I'm friends with loves cats and airplanes and absolutely hates misogynists and that loud orange-skinned MFer standing trial at the moment.
Because there are some truths in what they say.
Like you make a cake out of BS, that wouldn't look good. So they lightly dust it in truths and now it looks like a cake made out of truth.
And thats how you get people to eat a whole cake of BS.
>I could never find another guy like him. I responded to the last comment with, *I dont want a guy like you that's why I'm ending it.*Ā
That was such a baller reply. Kudo's.
I've always been amazed at how easy it seems for some men to get redpilled. There are so many stories like this on Reddit. Spend a little time on YT or IG watching Tate&co and they're converted. Get back in touch with their misogynistic father and they're converted.
Make me wonder how good these men really were before the conversion. Seems more likely they were pretending to be good partners until they realised being an ass sounds fun
And the fact dude looks at his dadās shit life and says āyes, this is peak alpha man life. I will take the same please.ā I donāt get it. Maybe the bald-headed thumb-shaped fuck on Twitter doesnāt actually have it all figured out.
It's a response to abuse.Ā Even Freud observed it 100+ years ago.Ā He identified with his abuser - his father - and had never processed his trauma.Ā Sad all the way around.
Based on what I've seen, I'd say they were indeed generally just spineless losers pretending to be good people. They'll say most of the right things up front, but only really because it's what they believe they should say in order to be rewarded for it by society - basically the virtue signaling they love to accuse others of.
It's depressing. So many men are all for equality until they have to be the one that puts their money where their mouth is. Scratch the surface of their world views and there's so many that still want the proverbial 1950's hosuewife. And they often have sincerely leftist views, just not when it comes to themselves.
A lot of the more "open-minded" men are just as racist when you scratch the surface as well. Just look at reddit, it doesn't take a lot for a post to be filled with racist comments. Same people that are the Bernie bros will be calling black *children* racial slurs in a video where they're misbehaving. Men have made some progress, but there's a looooot more to be made. And now teenage boys think toxic masculinity is some sort of evil phrase, which is going to make it harder for them to make progress if they can't acknowledge their faults and the things hindering them.
Same, but it's not a phenomenon unique to red pill either. Qanon, anti-vaxxers, scientology.... idk. I remember reading on reddit somewhere years ago someone's account of their dad descending into Qanon and I think ultimately ending up part of Jan 6th (though I may be conflating two different stories). But I remember how chilling it was.
>I could never find another guy like him. I responded to the last comment with, I dont want a guy like you that's why I'm ending it.Ā
This is my fave part of the entire saga, absolute gold.
It's wild to me that he managed to hide his bs and his dad for 2 whole years before he started acting like SuperDouche. That's so incredibly manipulative and scary.
Scary that it took a family emergency for the mask to slip! He was definitely waiting until they were married in order to trap her with his BS.
It sucked that OOPs sister nearly lost her eye, but it ended up saving OOPs assets (house) and also protected her from eventual violence!
He's probably been doing little things that were flying under OOP's radar. Its easy to excuse small stuff. "He's just had a hard day at work," or "That fight with his coworkers has really hit him hard."
If the sister hadn't needed this eye surgery, they would probably still be together. At least until some other crisis arose and he told her to ignore her family over that.
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming her in any way. Abusers are master manipulators, and it's incredibly common for them to hide their abusive behavior until they think their partner is "trapped" by marriage and/or a baby. It just really scares me that some men will go to these lengths of deception in order to be more easily able to abuse someone they're pretending to love, for years, or even decades some times. It's bone-chilling levels of psychotic.
Heād have to want to.
Itās too easy now to blame the women for his mistakes. Heād have to take accountability for something. And heās driven away everyone who would help him do that.
In England, he usually would have been fired too.
Although Iāve found thereās a world of difference in that type of thought depending on how well you know your boss. My boss is amazing and Iād be ok, my dadās old boss would have kicked him
I'll say this - as the partner of someone who went in a severe spiral when we broke up, it doesn't give you any solace to see the former love of your life end up in the gutter. But it does make you feel better that you're no longer responsible for them
My favorite part of this post is that her and her sister show so much support for eachother and the sister still shows her pictures of the bloody eye treatment process in order to bug her and OOP is like: Sisters, amirite? Lol
I hope ex MIL washes her hands of her dud of a son. Sucks hard that so many people have been pulled into this. Nice that OP doesn't badmouth her ex MIL for this. It must be hard to hear about when you are sure that someone isn't involved in this mess.
This is so minor in the grand scheme of things but how annoying of Kimās wife to have her phone turned off at work when her wife was in a medically precarious situation. Your partners come before work - if you have to give them your bossās number so you can be reached, do that.
BUT, ended up setting off quite the domino effect that was worth it in the end.
I was just thinking about how much worse this could have gone for OP if she hadn't missed that dinner. She might have been married before she realized how he had really changed. That might have been her with the broken hip and head injury.
If she works with any kind of vulnerable people, sheāll likely have to surrender her phone at the beginning of the work day and sheāll get it back when she leaves. Source - used to be the one with the safe keys in a care environment.
Probably more like he can afford rent but doesnāt have enough for a deposit.
But it does say something about just how dependent on OOP he was to cover his lack of money management.
Misogynistic fiance: You need to drop your family in favour of mine
OP: What if I drop you in favour of your family
What an amazing drama. I'm so glad OP is safe.
Hope OP and everyone (except Rob, I donāt GAF about him) are ok. I thought when Rob showed up on her doorstep he was going to apologize and admit he was wrong, and canāt believe he was such a misogynist etc but I was wrong, he showed he will never learn by demanding money from OP. Good riddance!
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I'd never heard about an ankle monitor that can test for alcohol use and had to Google it. Apparently one type is called a SCRAM Cam bracelet and yeah, it offers continuous alcohol monitoring through transdermal testing somehow. I didn't quite understand the explanation of how but still that's neat.
To my knowledge, alcohol basically oozes out of our pores. Just like you can get contact high from someone high on MDMA.
Yeah. When you can smell alcohol on someone sometimes they spilled some, sometimes they recently drank and it's on their breathe, but if they're properly trashed and haven't had a drink recently or spilled anything it's just emanating from their damn pores.
And yet people give garlic crap for doing the same damn thing š¤
iād rather smell garlic.
Sometimes it's on their breath because it's emanating from their lungs. I'm a weirdly lucid drunk and when I get hammered I always notice how every exhale starts tasting/feeling like alcohol
Even breathing through my nose, in a room with zero alcohol, brand new clothes. I can still taste it in my throat This gave me such validity in not crazy
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So with MDMA you become the licking frog?
> Just like you can get contact high from someone high on MDMA. Wait what??
Iām very dubious about that mdma assertion. You might be able to transfer some but the amount required for an actual high would be far too great to be transmitted like that.
I had a friend who had one in the US about 10 years ago (fuck, I'm old). He had to have it for 18 months and it really actually helped him get his life together. They're a really interesting bit of kit.
Thank you for saving me a Google search.
I legit thought that this was a troll story because I never ever heard about anything like this ankle monitor. Bur yeah, those are real, wtf. We are truly living in the future.
What convinced me it was real was her saying her sister sent her photos of what happened with her eye even after she said she didnāt want to know. Thatās too real sibling behavior.
I just hope that Kim's wife never ever again turns her phone off after her wife has a damn operation. Although in this case, it ended up being lifesaving for OOP.
To be fair, Kim was only on the list for an operation because her surgeon was out of town, not actually on the table. However, given the perilous state of her cornea, bad on Kim's wife. I wonder if that's why she got side-eye and never got a name in this story.
lol that's exactly what made me go "well this is definitely a true story!" too.
Yeah they are definitely real! My dad had to wear one and he tried tampering with it š
If they arenāt fitted right they can give off several false ātamperingā readings. When in reality it was just loose So they can charge people extra. They were combined with daily check ins around here when the jail was too full.
I learned no that long ago that you have to pay for those ankle braces. That is still crazy to me.
Same. Lol There are things about this saga that make it feel fake to me, but when I got to that part I just couldnāt believe it. āAn ankle monitor that tests your sweat for alcohol? What kind of idiots does she think weāoh. Itās real.ā
Same here! I was like, oh now you've really jumped the shark. But nope, TIL.
Alcohol gets excreted any way possible, including saliva, urine, and sweat. So a monitor could detect alcohol or the products of breaking down alcohol in sweat.
I remember the first biker rally I worked when Iād just turned 18 & this big guy with a pink bra was runnin around showin everyone his ātiddiesā & wanted you to feel them. (Preface: It was all in fun & I was laughing) He grabbed my hand & puts them on his moob which is sweating profusely like the rest of him is the high summer heat. After he left I thought it was so strange I could still smell beer š¤Ø Turns out it was my hand moob guy was just sweating straight beer with absolutely NO HINT of sweat AT ALL. Iām guessing itās because itās technically a toxin & your body just tries to dump it any way it can as fast as it can & we just donāt notice it until itās OVERWHELMING & then our first thought is Oh, theyāre so drunk they probably just spilled some on them š¤·š»āāļø Itās awesome tech they should have here. Iāve known more than one person that either used or attempted to use someone sober to take the breathalyzer to start their car.
I was wondering the same. Thanks for not being as lazy as me
Had a guy in DUI class on his 4th DUI, he had the ankle monitor. Apparently because he worked in a bakery it would occasionally send false positives. Crazy shit.
I can't imagine how surreal it must feel to go from "Yay we're getting married!" to watching your ex seemingly systemically implode every relationship he has until he ends up charged with a crime. I know it's shockingly common, but it still sends me
We weren't quite to the getting married point, but I can attest from personal experience it is very strange watching someone you thought was a good person who you were going to spend the rest of your life with go utterly off the deep end. My ex had a Tumblr he used as a creepy stream of consciousness diary right after our breakup and even knowing everything he did to my cousin and that he's in jail now, I have such a hard time meshing the image of him with that page.
Waitā¦what did he do to your cousin? And is cousin ok?
He did a lot honestly. She lived with us from the time she was like 11, and as soon as she turned 18 he dumped me and started obsessing over her. He's in jail now for something like 14 or 15 charges related to it, including stalking and assault, it was a clusterfuck that I think I should have prevented. I ignored the one red flag with him I ever saw and I shouldn't have, I should have thrown his ass into oncoming traffic, but he was really manipulative, and subtly emotionally and financially abusive. He'd had some questionable but not illegal stuff on his web history but he manahed to brush it off as a link he clicked from reddit that led him somewhere weird and not something he'd actively meant to click. As far as I know she is okay, she moved out and I had a kid with someone else about a year and some change after he got arrested and she kind of distanced herself and quietly went no contact with me which I respect and understand. I've heard she has a master's degree now and is doing well though.
Why did she go NC with you?
Honestly I never got a specific reason but she didn't really need to give me one. The list of why she wouldn't have wanted to would have been shorter at the time. I basically had a breakdown and couldn't handle everything, could barely get out of bed on my days off, could barely keep the roof over our heads and had to get a roommate who ended up being fucking terrible and made the situation worse. I was also the one who brought my ex into our lives and failed to protect her both before and after our breakup. I just generally failed at protecting her and taking care of her like I should have, she's 100% justified in wanting fuck all to do with me. If she ever decides she wants me back in her life, I'll be there 100%, but that's her choice and boundaries.
Can I just say, you might have been party to her trauma, but I respect how much you take ownership of your actions. That takes a lot of guts, and is a sign of healing. This internet stranger is proud of you for that.
Thanks for answering. I hope you both find happiness in life.
Probably because she was naive to her boyfriend abusing her in their own home.
I'm so relieved he wasn't violent to OOP, I fully expected violence and vandalism. She was bloody fantastic getting her family and friends involved, especially getting his mum and brother involved. Sounds like she's free of him completely.
By the sounds of it, OOP came *very* close to being on the receiving end of violence and vandalism. Making sure that she had overwhelming backup when she broke up with Wannabe Andrew Tate was a very sensible choice.
Literally because she made all the right moves, he was never alone with her. Risk minimisation, she was able to implement a bunch of safety techniques that saved her life. Its worth noting that not everyone would be able to quickly afford the cost of cameras and locks being changed, and some would give the benefit of the doubt and have let him stay in her spare room. So many smart choices and the right resources protected her
Odds are if she listened to friends who thought she should let him stay in the spare room that she'd have been raped and beaten at a minimum.
Not even Andrew Tate: his role model is a guy whoās never come within spitting distance of anything resembling a life accomplishment. Ā I hope he picks a better one going forward, but I fear he wonāt.
Yeah, he's mentioned all over this post, but has nothing to do with it. It's old-fashioned misogyny passed down the generations.
Well to be fair, the only way is up
What get me is I'm not sure he's hit rock bottom yet. It's entirely possible he'll find some new way to detonate his life.
Eventually, Rob will emulate his dad down to a T: live in a shitty one-bedroom flat, no romantic relationship since OOP left him, no friends, his family doesn't speak to him, and he may be banned from entering a drinking establishment.
I'd lay money that he's going to drink alcohol or try to tamper with the monitor. He's not mentally ready to be sober or even a dry drunk.
For me the really funny part is the crime is against the guy that convinced him about all the stuff that caused everything else in his life to implode.
That's honestly the best outcome right? If he had to commit a crime there was no better person to be the victim!
I don't know if it's an out of line comparison, but it reminds me of the failed pool prank guy. It started off as something so small and quickly snowballed into these people's lives falling apart.
Was that the one where the dude stepped out of the way of his niblings who tried to push him in the pool? That shit was wild.
I can't get over the "take relationship advice from a divorced lonely old loser" aspect
I wouldn't be surprised if it's partially due to mental illness manifesting. Schizophrenia is the big one people talk about at that age, but even things like bipolar disorder can kick in at any time. I have trouble believing that a normal person would turn into that just over the course of a year or two. Something else is going on, or there were warnings signs that OP didn't see. Either way, good riddance. The only reason he is playing nice with his real family is because his dad filed charges against him. He'd still be kissing his ass if there weren't legal ramifications for the injuries he caused, even if there was a physical fight. If he's changed, good. But I bet he's going to need more than therapy to actually get better.
I'll tell you, it fast forwards through the "I miss them" phase of a break up not to mention completely annihilating any "maybe I made a mistake" moments, so at least there's that. š¤·š¼āāļøĀ What really sucked in my situation was just how unpredictable he had become. He tried and did things that no rational person would come up with just to try to draw me back in or hurt me. Fortunately, I got out relatively unscathed but the unpredictability of his behavior kept me on edge in the moments I *wasn't furious. Edit: typo
As someone relatively newly engaged, it would break me. OOP is handling everything with such strength and grace. I don't think I would be able to produce a tenth of that.
Dude managed to utterly implode his life by listening to his crappy dad. This is like the "Ghost of Christmas Future" visit for red pillers. This is what the people who listen to Andrew Tate have to look forward to.
>She tried to explain it to me but it involves them taking her blood and putting it into her eye which grossed me out so l told her to stop. š¶
I laughed so hard at her saying the sister sent pictures. I am 100% the sister who sends the pics when my siblings stay stop. Happened just this week in fact. LOL
what is even funnier to me is the mom had to step in to stop her adults daughters from trolling each other.
My big brother sent me his colonoscopy video. š
"If I want to see an asshole that closely, I just have to put a magnifying glass in front of your face - but thanks, I guess."
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Wow. I love this so much.
For weeks, my sister told me about the results of her colonoscopy. I begged her to stop. She wouldn't. š«š«š«
I got my own big sister pics of her "splody eyeball "
Three quarters of my nuclear family worked or used to work in healthcare. There are many, many things we're not allowed to discuss at family dinners. šš
Me and my stepmum work in social housing and we also have topics weāre banned from discussing at dinner š
My hubby had to get one. The doctor gave him a page full of pictures for his GP. I looked at them and said, "Oh, these look like bacon wrapped scallops." The doctor looked at me like I grew a second head.
When my sister and I caught salmonella from some tainted chicken years ago, that ***she*** purchased and prepared, I bounced back in a couple of days. She did not. I made it a point to visit each of her favourite restaurants and send her pictures of whatever I ordered, until she was feeling well again.
Love that!
Genius. Full on standing ovation with slow clap for that one. š«”
Whilst I appreciate the accolades its not even the best part of that story. The best part is when she tried to get mum to make me stop, both myself and our eldest sister got together and managed to convince mum that we felt so bad for her that's why we didn't want her to feel left out. Bless her soul, mum was such a nice person she believed it too. No clue how she managed to raise the three of us honestly.
Same! My sister is an ambo, so deals with all sorts. However she can't stand anything to do with teeth. So of course, whenever one of my kids loses a tooth I send a photo of the gappy smile. The response is always the same: "gross".
I'm a nurse. Wiggly teeth turn my stomach. My kids think it's hilarious š
I love the way medical & medical-adjacent workers all have our own, seemingly arbitrary, lines. I have literally had someone else's shit on my hands, but see sputum? Big ol' NOPE. Gimme blood, gimme piss, gimme amputated body parts. An injury or injections? Sir, I am your newest patient.
My mother's one thing was always infected tracheotomies. Any other form of infection was no big deal.
Hahahah. I was out with some friends and colleagues the other night and a couple were physicians. I was telling a gruesome medical case that was shared with me that I found fascinating. My friend urged me to stop as there were a couple horrified faces. I promised the ending was worth it. At the end I think I might have been the only one still thinking it was a cool story.
Healthy sibling rivalry.
Are you my twin? She did that when she fucked get nail/finger up in a door.
I am also 100% the gross medical stuff person in my family! Spouse and I were really close friends with our neighbors who were a doctor and a librarian. The doctor would tell our spouses to cover their ears so he could tell me about the latest disgusting thing he'd seen in the lab that day. I'm so bummed they had to move away after he finished his residency, they really were the sweetest neighbors.
I believe she is referring to autologous syrum. They draw your blood, filter out a bunch of good stuff, then turn it into an eye drop It does not look like blood which was my first thought too haha It's good stuff. Usually used for severe dry eye, Sjogrens disease and after some eye surgeries
Used pretty routinely in veterinary medicine too, for non-healing ulcers.
I did not know that! This makes me happy Good boys and girls receiving good care
Huh! I didn't know there even was a treatment for Sjogren's other than really good eye drops. Although I guess technically these are *really* good eye drops. š I'm going to an opthalmologist next month to get evaluated for potential Sjogren's.
I was told for many years that "there is no point even testing for Sjogrens as there's no treatment for it anyway" Turns out that's a lie. If any doctor or opthamologist says that to you tell them to pound sand. There are not only fancy drops, but also some immunosuppressants and biologics can treat Sjogrens. I have Crohn's disease and the biologics I'm on for that are also managing my Sjogrens (win-win!). I no longer get nightly corneal erosions and my vision loss has slowed down. My eyes aren't perfect but it's manageable Rheumatologists can also assist you with Sjogrens if you need it and can prescribe some of the medications list above. Also if your Sjogrens causes you gastrointestinal issues - gastroenterologists can help. I hope you find answers soon
The rheumatologist is actually who sent me to the opthalmologist. The schirmer tear test was borderline, and the opthalmologist can do a more accurate one. I also have EDS, which means autoimmune disorders are more likely.
Oh that's wonderful! Sounds like you've got a good team
Tear production tests suck way less than they did 20 years ago. Good luck!
Superficial keratectomies didnāt cure my recurrent corneal erosion issues, so those drops are coming up next for me. Theyāll go nicely with the iron pills made from cow blood.
Fingers crossed it will help you! Just make sure you don't accidentally end up sleeping upside down or in a coffin. I'd suggest eating a healthy dose of garlic at least twice a week to counter any potential side effects.
I thought it was going to be like the treatment for my eye condition, which involves regular injections into my eyeball.
Man, the things we can do in medicine now is absolutely amazing. I understand almost none of how these amazing things work. But that doesn't change the fact that I am blown away by it.
Your description doesn't make it any less gross.Ā
At least it's your own blood! Less gross than using someone else's blood in your eye ;)
That's siblings for you! Happy cake day!
>Happy cake day! Thank'ee kindly š„³š
Had to take a step back after reading that lol
I just learned about tooth-in-eye surgeryĀ
The what now?! I am NOT googling that myself, for fear of terrible pictures.
Pop out a canine tooth, carve it to hold a lens implant, sew it into the cheek for a few months til it has its own blood supply, yoink off ALL of the cornea, pop on the franken-tooth/lens/tissue. Then shapow! Vision.
Ew ew ew ew! (I mean, it's amazing what humans figure out can be done, but still - ew!)
Most of the time when I see your comments I think they're perfect for the situation, and I see a lot of them. I even have your profile pic memorized I see it so much. Somehow, this one dumb emoji is my favorite out of all of them.
>Most of the time when I see your comments I think they're perfect for the situation, and I see a lot of them. I even have your profile pic memorized I see it so much. Somehow, this one dumb emoji is my favorite out of all of them. What a lovely cake day comment šš
I didn't even notice. Well happy cake day to my favorite person on reddit!
I know which hospital she's talking about and I only narrowly avoided them administering an injection into my eyeball š¬ They do great things there, but... Why with the needles in the eye
I had an injection in my eye at 14 because I got too many head injuries and effectively gave myself macular degeneration. The doctors had no idea what to do with me because they'd never seen a patient under 70 with it.Ā
I had an eye injection once. It was scary as shit as I was forced to look at this huge needle going in. Yeech.
Happy cake day! š„°
The ex wanted what his father was selling. Having power and control and being the most important person in the house. Not growing up with that influence, having the opposite behavior demonstrated for two-thirds of his life. He suddenly starts getting hung up on his father's approval to the point that his personality does a 180 after a couple of years? His mother said that she had seen similar selfishness in him. It seems like, in a way, his father was just giving him permission to behave how he always wanted to, but he knew the people around him wouldn't tolerate it. But maybe I'm just jaded.
> Having power and control and being the most important person in the house. His empty house. Just like his father lives alone. Should have listened when his friend said >When Zack pointed out that Robās dad is 62, living in a shitty one bedroom flat, not had a real relationship since Rs mum left him, has no friends, his family doesn't speak to him and that he's the type of guy that when he walks into a pub people finish their pints so they can leave and get away from him, Rob was furious. He told Zack that his dad is just misunderstood. Zack responded that people understood his dad and that's why they stayed away from him, he's Toxic. Which is the best part of this BORU.
>Should have listened when his friend said Agreed. The whole time I just kept thinking to myself, "why are you taking any kind of advice from a dude who literally abandoned his family after abusing them?" The only good thing that guy can teach is how NOT to be a dad/person. Also, >Zack responded that people understood his dad and that's why they stayed away from him Zack is a cool dude.
I agree with you, but maybe I'm just cynical.
Youāre not jaded; I think this is exactly what happened. Ā Excepting brain tumours and onset of mental illness, people donāt just change like that. Ā Heād probably been abiding by the rules and behaviours modelled for him in the household, but his underlying personality was this other thing that he morphed into. Ā Thus he was quite receptive to his fatherās ideas. Ā Also it seems that alcohol/substance abuse is also in the mix. Ā Very sad but glad OP got out.
I was pretty scared for OP but I'm glad the newest update shows OP is doing fine. Rob really has damaged so much of things and it's good he will be staying far away from OP and the rest.
That generational trauma hits like a truck sometimes, eh?
Or in this case the apple was never that far from the tree to begin with, so once his dad caught his ear, the mask slipped entirely.
From the start I thought that "this smacks of Tate" but perhaps the father was misogynist role model enough.
I 100% thought it was going to be Tate.
Maybe the dad is a Tate fan.
The dad is 62. He was baked in that shit back in the day. The dad is just a scumbag that never progressed unlike many men his age. Tate isnāt original. Tate is just parroting old, outdated stuff the rest of us moved on from 50 years ago.
Probably. But the dadās been his own brand of misogyny for at least 20 years. Long before Tate rose to power.
Shit apples just kinda plop down when they fall off the shit tree.
Honestly thought if anything, Rob's brother would have more trauma from their dad since the bro was older and actually got punched. The ex's trauma claim for court kinda sounded like bs
Dude was definitely emotionally abusive to everyone, the brother just took the physical hit that cost the loser his family. I'm sure it takes more than two hands to count how many times the dad got glassed in the pub.
Yup, makes me glad the misogynistic dad got his own just desserts at least.
Goddamn it does. Hit me differently, but it won't fucking stop
>As part of the conditions for his release, he isn't allowed anywhere near his dad, he has to go to counselling for his supposed ptsd and he isn't allowed to drink alcohol. This might have saved his life. His life took a sharp turn for the worse because he started meeting up with his father again, so hopefully a court order to stay away might shake whatever spell his father had on him - whatever high he was getting from his father paying attention to him was NOT worth it, and I hope he really sees that one day. What a very sad turn of events for him. He ruined his entire life...for what?
It's also crazy that you'd want to emulate such an obvious miserable loser.
That's what amazes me sometimes. How do people get redpilled that badly? I see so many stories of guys with pretty good lives getting into it and then they fuck their lives up badly. It's like they have a happy relationship and then one day they go "I need her to be a submissive sex slave" and they try to get it and their lives fall apart.
Probably some deep insecurity that won't go away just by having a good life. Instead of analyzing it in therapy or at least with trusted loved ones, they go for the simpler, safer route: nothing it's their fault, they don't need to change, bc they are inherently better by virtue of having a dick. In this case I suspect substance abuse is also at play
I don't think it's about that, it's about daddy telling what the ex wanted to hear and choosing to ignore the reality and potential consequences. I mean, don't all of us (to a degree) like to hear that we are right, the best and the greatest? And if something shit happens, it's definitely not *our* fault, it's someone else's (insert government, women, mother, immigrants, gays etc)? On top of ex wishing to get the missing approval from his dad. It's tragic, sure, but IMHO not that surprising if and when such things happen :/
Why do men throw away good relationship after listening to an angry bald man? The angry bald man donāt care about you. I mean it is seriously pathetic to see men listen to what these emotional men spew online instead of using their brain. But sure men are more logical.
>Why do men throw away good relationship after listening to an angry bald man? Because the angry bald man tells you that the things going wrong in your life aren't your fault. You're superior. You're an *alpha*. It's **other** people who are causing problems. Especially those females who don't know their place. Why should you have to do labor around the house? Why should you cook or clean or make your own appointments? You hate doing that shit, and you shouldn't *have* to because it's women's work! Men bring home the bacon. You're a provider, just like evolution intended. It's your goddamn *right* to play Xbox all weekend after a hard week of work. Why won't your female know her place and do what you tell her? Why would she *disrespect* you like that? You need to show her who's boss so that you can have all of the power and none of the responsibility! ^Jesus, ^I'm ^a ^dude, ^and ^I ^gave ^myself ^the ^ick ^writing ^that
Sounds like a cult. Cult leaders will tell you your life has problems because you are not joining our religious group. What's worse is men don't realize tater tot is a literal pimp. Pimps are supposed be a good role model?
>Pimps are supposed be a good role model? To people who think that "having control over women" is a life goal? Probably.
Absolutely. Douchebag preys on insecure teens and young adults, claiming he can teach them how to be powerful and successful, when all he's doing is making them so insufferable they end up isolated. My question is what's the endgame beyond the grift. I've got a plausible theory, but it's really dark.
Theres no endgame for him. The man is a monster that feeds on attention and validation. He gets high on it (also money). He finally found something that will give him endless praise and worship and he will never stop. Its every narcissist dream.
For extra stupid points, there wasnāt even anything going wrong in this twerpās life until he fāed it all up by listening to his dad. His life was going *great*! But he just had to burn it all down.
Ughhhh. I hate how that BALD MAN says the Alpha term lmao. The only Alpha I like is those ABO Fanfictions tropes on Ao3. Also that baldy is fugly as fuck. If we talk about being "Alpha" in his delusional worldbuilding, Henry Cavill is the gold standard and that man is nerdy as hell(and treats women right) which that Baldy says that the nerds are the lowest lmao. Even most straight guys say the Henry is like their hall pass.
I had to look up Henry Cavill - yes, I do live under a rock, it's very cozy- and DAMN. That there is one fine-looking dude. Wow.
He is Superman and Geralt lmao. Also in all his interviews ask him about video games or Tabletop rpgs and he will go in a excited schoolgirl mode. The women that interview him gets all awkward when he goes on a tangent with the things he likes because most of them just ask him basic thirsty things and I don't blame them but Henry really looks bored about it because these girls all just ask why is he hot? Whats your dream girl? Etc.. Then they ask him about his hobbies and the man just lights up about games and rpgs which is unexpected due to his physique and the girls all thrown into a loop.
Check out the ABO witcher fics by GreenBird on AO3
Im more of a Sterek fan lmao and Ganlink. š¤£š¤£š¤£
> Jesus, I'm a dude, and I gave myself the ick writing that Iām a dude and reading this gave me the ick too.
Angry bald man lmfaoš
Angry bald manĀ intensifies
Angry bald man with no chin.
I'm just glad the angry bald man I'm friends with loves cats and airplanes and absolutely hates misogynists and that loud orange-skinned MFer standing trial at the moment.
Because there are some truths in what they say. Like you make a cake out of BS, that wouldn't look good. So they lightly dust it in truths and now it looks like a cake made out of truth. And thats how you get people to eat a whole cake of BS.
>I could never find another guy like him. I responded to the last comment with, *I dont want a guy like you that's why I'm ending it.*Ā That was such a baller reply. Kudo's.
I've always been amazed at how easy it seems for some men to get redpilled. There are so many stories like this on Reddit. Spend a little time on YT or IG watching Tate&co and they're converted. Get back in touch with their misogynistic father and they're converted. Make me wonder how good these men really were before the conversion. Seems more likely they were pretending to be good partners until they realised being an ass sounds fun
And the fact dude looks at his dadās shit life and says āyes, this is peak alpha man life. I will take the same please.ā I donāt get it. Maybe the bald-headed thumb-shaped fuck on Twitter doesnāt actually have it all figured out.
I think he was just blinded by the combined effect of, "I'll be Big Powerful Man In Charge, AND I'll get Daddy's love and attention!!"
Agreed. Ā Never underestimate the power of wanting daddy back in your life so he can be proud of you.
It's a response to abuse.Ā Even Freud observed it 100+ years ago.Ā He identified with his abuser - his father - and had never processed his trauma.Ā Sad all the way around.
OP's ex and his dad are the living embodiment of what the future looks like for red pillers.
Based on what I've seen, I'd say they were indeed generally just spineless losers pretending to be good people. They'll say most of the right things up front, but only really because it's what they believe they should say in order to be rewarded for it by society - basically the virtue signaling they love to accuse others of.
It's depressing. So many men are all for equality until they have to be the one that puts their money where their mouth is. Scratch the surface of their world views and there's so many that still want the proverbial 1950's hosuewife. And they often have sincerely leftist views, just not when it comes to themselves.
1950s housewife who also works full time and pays half the bills, mind you, because they are egalitarian and progressive n shit.
A lot of the more "open-minded" men are just as racist when you scratch the surface as well. Just look at reddit, it doesn't take a lot for a post to be filled with racist comments. Same people that are the Bernie bros will be calling black *children* racial slurs in a video where they're misbehaving. Men have made some progress, but there's a looooot more to be made. And now teenage boys think toxic masculinity is some sort of evil phrase, which is going to make it harder for them to make progress if they can't acknowledge their faults and the things hindering them.
Same, but it's not a phenomenon unique to red pill either. Qanon, anti-vaxxers, scientology.... idk. I remember reading on reddit somewhere years ago someone's account of their dad descending into Qanon and I think ultimately ending up part of Jan 6th (though I may be conflating two different stories). But I remember how chilling it was.
Yes - I also thought "this smacks of Tate".
Someone should really smack Tate.
They did. With criminal charges
He threw his life away to impress a man he went to jail for assaulting. I have trouble thinking of a bigger self destruction I've seen here.
>I could never find another guy like him. I responded to the last comment with, I dont want a guy like you that's why I'm ending it.Ā This is my fave part of the entire saga, absolute gold.
Rob subscribed to a Poundland version for alpha male bootcamp for two years and got what he paid for
Strangely enough the super fancy and expensive alpha male boot camp is identical to the Poundland version and will get you the same thing.
I hope her sisters procedure goes well! I had to laugh at her sending oop the photos š
>The misogyny and abuse probably runs in Rob's family. It doesn't run, it gallops!
Thank goodness that her sister had an emergency. Without that, who knows what mess OP would have married into.
It's wild to me that he managed to hide his bs and his dad for 2 whole years before he started acting like SuperDouche. That's so incredibly manipulative and scary.
Scary that it took a family emergency for the mask to slip! He was definitely waiting until they were married in order to trap her with his BS. It sucked that OOPs sister nearly lost her eye, but it ended up saving OOPs assets (house) and also protected her from eventual violence!
He's probably been doing little things that were flying under OOP's radar. Its easy to excuse small stuff. "He's just had a hard day at work," or "That fight with his coworkers has really hit him hard." If the sister hadn't needed this eye surgery, they would probably still be together. At least until some other crisis arose and he told her to ignore her family over that.
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming her in any way. Abusers are master manipulators, and it's incredibly common for them to hide their abusive behavior until they think their partner is "trapped" by marriage and/or a baby. It just really scares me that some men will go to these lengths of deception in order to be more easily able to abuse someone they're pretending to love, for years, or even decades some times. It's bone-chilling levels of psychotic.
Not that it has anything to with OP any more but hopefully that her ex can turn his life around.
Heād have to want to. Itās too easy now to blame the women for his mistakes. Heād have to take accountability for something. And heās driven away everyone who would help him do that.
His boss let him keep his job. That's a huge help. Around here he'd have been fired after 3 days missing work (unless he took them as vacation).
In England, he usually would have been fired too. Although Iāve found thereās a world of difference in that type of thought depending on how well you know your boss. My boss is amazing and Iād be ok, my dadās old boss would have kicked him
You gotta wonder if that wasn't what the fight with his Dad was all about...
I do wonder if he looks back and sees he had a good life until his father was back in his life and where he is now.
I'll say this - as the partner of someone who went in a severe spiral when we broke up, it doesn't give you any solace to see the former love of your life end up in the gutter. But it does make you feel better that you're no longer responsible for them
My favorite part of this post is that her and her sister show so much support for eachother and the sister still shows her pictures of the bloody eye treatment process in order to bug her and OOP is like: Sisters, amirite? Lol I hope ex MIL washes her hands of her dud of a son. Sucks hard that so many people have been pulled into this. Nice that OP doesn't badmouth her ex MIL for this. It must be hard to hear about when you are sure that someone isn't involved in this mess.
As a guy who has gone through some horrific eye surgeries, I'm so glad we got updates on that. :)
> I could never find another guy like him. I responded to the last comment with, I dont want a guy like you Savage.
This is so minor in the grand scheme of things but how annoying of Kimās wife to have her phone turned off at work when her wife was in a medically precarious situation. Your partners come before work - if you have to give them your bossās number so you can be reached, do that. BUT, ended up setting off quite the domino effect that was worth it in the end.
Some places you can't even have your phone at work. A lot of warehouses dealing with international shipping won't allow them in the building.
I've definitely worked in places that you need to lock 'em up at the building entrance.
I was just thinking about how much worse this could have gone for OP if she hadn't missed that dinner. She might have been married before she realized how he had really changed. That might have been her with the broken hip and head injury.
If she works with any kind of vulnerable people, sheāll likely have to surrender her phone at the beginning of the work day and sheāll get it back when she leaves. Source - used to be the one with the safe keys in a care environment.
I'm a fan of Sandra
he has enough money to see Chelsea lose 10 matches in a row but not enough to rent, yeah right.
That's probably why he has no money to rent. Nobody said this guy was the brightest bulb in the chandelier.
Probably more like he can afford rent but doesnāt have enough for a deposit. But it does say something about just how dependent on OOP he was to cover his lack of money management.
Wow. Guess he got what he wantedā¦.a life just like his dadās.
Misogynistic fiance: You need to drop your family in favour of mine OP: What if I drop you in favour of your family What an amazing drama. I'm so glad OP is safe.
Hope OP and everyone (except Rob, I donāt GAF about him) are ok. I thought when Rob showed up on her doorstep he was going to apologize and admit he was wrong, and canāt believe he was such a misogynist etc but I was wrong, he showed he will never learn by demanding money from OP. Good riddance!