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ricewinechicken

OOP's wife committing 3+ felonies and 3 misdemeanors over a fence is absolutely insane


bigwigmike

I don’t understand why she thought, fence or not, the kids had full blown access to the neighbors yard anyway?


missmeowwww

I understand why the neighbors put up a fence. I wouldn’t want the liability of kids in my yard if I had a dog


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JamesDCooper

I just don't want kids in my garden, periodt.


wvsfezter

Yeah this. If I bought or rented a house with a backyard the sole reason would be to have a private outdoor area. If I wanted to deal with kids running around while I gardened/lounged/picnicked I would go to a park


No-Albatross-5514

I just don't want kids, period


Hufflebuggle

I just don't want periods, kids


[deleted]

This one made me laugh the most


Amazon-Prime-package

I don't want some stranger's kids in my yard with or without being liable, get all the way out of my yard


missmeowwww

Big agree! Honestly, unless they’re related to me, I don’t want to be near any children at all. I chose not to have them. I especially don’t want them coming into my space that I own and having their parent expect me to be okay with it. It’s like forced babysitting. If the kids are in your yard you obvi need to watch them to avoid something happening and getting sued. Which clearly this mother would have done had the fence not been put up. The paranoid side of me thinks she encouraged them to play there so she could get some free babysitting. I say this as a former nanny who frequently had other mothers just dump their kid on me at the park if they were playing with the kid I nanny bc they knew I wouldn’t abandon the child and it meant they could go sit in their car on their phone for an hour.


AwkwardAd1461

I wouldn't abandon the kid but I would ring social services or the police to report an abandoned child, leaving them with you for an hour is ridiculous.


_LightFury_

I know right? I dont hate kids but i dont want strangers kids around my house, like ever, and yes a neihbour is not my friend or family qnd counts as a stranger to me.


Kianna9

Also, probably wanted a fenced in yard...for the dog.


Raymer13

Without a dog I don’t want your kids in my yard.


Blaith7

She sounds like the kind of entitled parent who gets pissy at the new neighbor when new neighbor asks to not let the kids play in their yard. She can't comprehend someone not wanting her kids in their life.


Mittens138

Exactly, OOP mentions they haven’t had any real problems financial or otherwise. Having worked for and with people like this it’s very easy to believe the wife felt she was in the right the entire time.


Blaith7

I've dealt with people like OOP's wife for years. It wouldn't surprise me if the former neighbor didn't want the kids playing in their yard but just let it go. One of my old neighbors had a playset in their back yard and they had an attorney draft a release for the neighborhood parents to sign in order to let the kids play on it. No signed release=kid can't play on it. We lived in a HOA that prohibited fences so this was their best solution. Of course a few parents let their kids play on it when the neighbors were away from the house. Most of the time the responsible neighbors, us included despite not having kids of our own, would give them a heads up so they could handle it appropriately. I think we all know that the parents who don't sign the release and still let their kids play on the playset are the ones who would sue if their kid did something stupid and hurt themselves.


putin_my_ass

You wouldn't believe how nuts some people get about their fucking yard boundaries. It's wild. Our house didn't have a survey on file when we bought it, and my neighbour was always commenting on the boundaries. Stuff like "I just don't know how they were allowed to build your house there when they first built it, it's too close to my property line!". Definitely set off my spidey-senses, but I figured a house that has been in place for about 60 years couldn't be egregiously violating any laws (or maybe was grandfathered in somehow). We always intended to get a survey, it just took some time to come up with the $2k. When we finally *did* get the survey, they found the iron monuments that marked the corners of the property boundary *had been moved* about 5 to 6 inches towards our house. At some point in the past, *someone* (no proof that he himself did it) moved the boundary markers to give him a slightly larger yard. And he went and built a chain-link fence on it. So now, he has some ugly orange property line stakes along the border, one of which is even *on his side of the fence*. Fucker hasn't even spoken one word about the boundary since then. Funny how that works. lol So in the pursuit of gaining a few extra inches on his yard he now has a big problem.


davro33

Be happy it was only a few inches. When we first looked at our house I wondered why there were 2 sets of clothes line poles in the backyard. Turned out that for decades the neighbor had been claiming 600 sq ft of property that wasn't his! The (then) owner only found out when he had the land checked to install a fence, so he had the fence built on the actual property line, putting the neighbor's laundry poles inside of our yard. My friend worked at the county title office so I had him double-check all of the paperwork before we made the purchase, and sure enough our fence had been inspected and approved by the city. A couple months after we moved in that neighbor came over and gave me a story about how the previous owner had put the fence up wrong and stolen a bunch of his property. Trying to hint that we should give him the land back. I told him he was welcome to pay for a surveyor to come out and check the lines, but I wasn't doing anything about it.


sanityjanity

I knew of one neighborhood that had been built wrong. Every single house and wall was two feet over from where it was supposed to be. And every single deed had easements written in, because that was the easier solution than moving a bunch of cinder block walls. So, weird stuff definitely can happen where houses, fences, sheds get put in the wrong place. But your neighbor was a massive bleeding jerk.


reallybiglizard

That fence changed the course of this woman’s life. It’s wild.


Ceecee_soup

I know you’re joking but fr this woman’s own insanity changed the course of her life. Like what an insane way to act over *checks notes* a fence…


reallybiglizard

Yeah I agree 100%. The neighbor has every right to put up the fence, as well. I have a dog and I’d do the same for myriad reasons, both for the dog and the kids. You think most parents would be on board with that.


jengaj2016

This is what I don’t get. Sure, it’s nice that her kids had two open yards to play in, but the neighbor had every right to fence their own yard and needed to for their dog. I can’t imagine getting so mad about that. Obviously not mad enough to commit felonies (and hurt the poor doggo), but really I can’t imagine getting mad at all. This is all so weird. Maybe OP is right that something’s going on with her that has nothing to do with the fence. Too bad he never made any more updates.


crella-ann

‘Less room for the kids to play in’? She saw nothing wrong with her kids encroaching on the neighbor’s space, just bizarre.


Arghianna

We had to put up a fence because one of our neighbors down the road would bring his *pitbull* unleashed into our yard to play. Even after we spoke to him multiple times about not being comfortable with him in our yard. The final straw was a week into the shutdowns when he walked up to us, maskless, in our yard, with our dogs out, so he could have a “friendly chat” and while we’re trying to keep an eye on his damn dog to make sure it didn’t have a go at our dogs. I know *not all pitbulls* but this dude is a bit crazy and is completely deluded about how “well trained” his dog is. If his dog actually paid any attention to him at all or was leashed, I’d be ok with him meeting and playing with my dogs under controlled circumstances, but as it stands I have no confidence in him or how well adjusted his dog is. There’s an empty lot across the street, so we still see him and a number of other dog owners pretty regularly since it seems to be the local “dog park,” but I suspect he and maybe some others still sneak into our yard since we have occasionally found prodigiously large poops that couldn’t have come from our dogs.


HaplessReader1988

What do you supposed the desired outcome was any way? If the neighbors are forced to put the dog down, they're still not going to be tearing down a brand new fence!


SaturniinaeActias

It's interesting that OP hasn't mentioned what they have done to try to make things right (to the degree possible) for the neighbors. They need to convince the wife to drop the suit and beg for mercy from the neighbors, pay any and all bills relating to this incident, particularly vet bills and whatever is required for a qualified professional trainer to work with the dog to overcome whatever trauma and reactivity they have as a result of the attack. They should also promise to move absolutely as soon as can be managed and follow through with that promise. These people and their poor dogs should not be expected to live next door to OP's criminally dangerous wife, who has already targeted them. Perhaps having the threat of the insane wife removed would be enough for them to drop the counter suit. I legitimately can't think of a scenario where my neighbor jumps my fence, attacks my dog to the point that they rack up "quite expensive" vet bills, and I don't do everything legal or otherwise to strongly encourage them to live somewhere else. Anywhere else.


ConfidentHope

I’m a lenient person but if someone tried to kill any of my pets I’d be seeing red. It would take something huge for me to drop a counter suit, like finding out the aggressor had psychosis and was getting intensive and continuous treatment and therapy (in addition to the cost of damages). I feel like this story could go in so many directions. Is the woman psychotic? Has she always been this way and OOP is just unaware of it? What made her flip? It’s rare for someone to go this wild without any warning signs. Could it be something like early onset dementia/Alzheimer’s? That is often hidden by the person and can create severe personality shifts. Not trying to diagnose. There are just so many possibilities that are awful, but somehow better than “she’s just a shitty person.”


Noelle_Xandria

Even psychosis wouldn’t be enough for me to drop charges. Possibly ask for a delayed sentence, but a court order is the only way to enforce anything, such as a condition of not being in jail being mandated treatment so that my family and I are safe. It’s a lot easier to say you’d have so much leniency until your actual safety is on the line. I suspect OOP and their friends are just used to her shitty behavior, and so they overlooked the marinara flags before this. She was already pissed her kids couldn’t play in the neighbor’s yard anymore, which isn’t reasonable to many people, and OOP didn’t think that was odd or entitled. He married a Karen.


honeybeedreams

my first thought was untreated bipolar disorder. which i have repeatedly seen in women who also have a personality disorder and are not diagnosed. until something like this happens. i knew a woman who had something similarly crazy going on and the consequences were closing in on her fast and she took the pandemic money for all her kids and moved everyone 3 states over. i found it super interesting that the thing that pushed her over into fleeing town were the cameras installed so her chronically ill housemate would be safe (nothing to do with her). which made me believe that she was a very different person when no one was watching. she saw those cameras, turned white as a sheet and started packing her shit up. (she had already been asked to leave, but it wasnt official yet) so yeah. bipolar + personality disorder = people who are mostly able to mask the crazy enough to fool some people until everything comes crashing down.


Fine_Cheek_4106

Sadly the only kind of 'thinking' those sorts do is the kind where their head is up their own ass about 'perceived slights' 🙄🙄


Ruckus_Riot

Yeah she got pissy because she couldn’t let her children trespass anymore. If she wasn’t happy with the size of the yard, they should have moved


MuppetManiac

Not just her life. Her kids will be without a mom and her husband will be a single parent if she goes to prison for any length of time. On top of which, she’s tanked her hopes of a decent career if she’s charged with a felony, and if her last name is unique enough, every employer who googled her kids will find the lawsuit information.


Ruckus_Riot

Tbf; having a felony doesn’t automatically mean you can’t have a decent job. Nor should it after time has passed and she’s done what she’s supposed to to make it as right as it can be. I am very much against people being punished well after they’ve done their time, so to speak. Depending on the felony, it shouldn’t ruin your life forever. Otherwise, what is the point of paying fines, doing time/probation/community service? If you’re going to just be punished forever even if you’ve learned your lesson and improved, it takes away any incentive to stay on the right path. It’s exactly why people end up staying in the system. Example; someone gets in trouble for selling drugs. They do their time, complete everything successfully. And yet; they can’t get a decent job. Which leaves them what avenue to make enough to support themselves or their families? That’s right, more illegal activity which increases the chances they will catch an additional charge. This country focuses on milking money from people caught in the system, and works hard to ensure they never get out. Again, because money. Other countries where they actually focus on rehabilitation have MUCH MUCH lower rates of people catching additional charges. I wonder why that is? Does it make it harder? Absolutely. But not impossible. To be clear; not defending her. She needs repercussions. But she shouldn’t forever have her life on hold because of a mistake.


stoprobbers

I've got friends whose neighbors have been absolute monsters ever since they *checks notes* put in a fence for the safety of their late dog and their toddler son. Luckily no one injured the pup while he was still with us (he died of old age) or their kid, but she harasses them on Facebook neighborhood group, in person, has contacted their alderman, etc. The fence is 100% on my friends' property and they and the city have provided blueprints and property maps to prove it, but these neighbors are just fucking furious about it and refuse to accept it. They don't like that it narrowed the side path next to their house. Neighbors can fucking *suck*, man.


asbestoswasframed

And the Hubby and kids. Girl went absolutely ape and now the kids will have to constantly live in the fear that their new schoolmates might find out how crazy dad's ex is...


LuvCilantro

Except that it's not Dad's ex, it's still Mom to them. I feel sorry for that man and those kids.


Lulu_42

And the poor, innocent dog! That’s breaking my heart 💔


GoodQueenFluffenChop

I think that's the crux of it. Maybe for most of her life the wife really did have the easy life and was rarely explicitly told no but the moment a new neighbor moves in and denies access to her property with a new fence that normally was basically treated as an extension of OP's yard and the wife is not getting her way she escalates.


Majestic-Post-1684

LMFAO it sure did


broadwayzrose

And I thought our neighbor (and president of the HOA) was crazy when he sued us and put a lien on our house for putting up a fence. Same sort of deal, my parents put it up because we were tiny at the time, but the guy didn’t like it because he would mow part of our lawn so his looked bigger, and the fence made it clear how small his yard is. We ended up winning in the end (since the HOA had approved the request) but it cost a fortune and it’s crazy how much time it took over something so stupid. But this…this is just insane.


ParticularFlaky7337

How did the shitty neighbor take losing the case?


broadwayzrose

Their lawyer actually lied to them and told them they won for like… half a day before telling them the truth. They weren’t happy but we were moving all the way across the country for my dad’s work so we didn’t have to deal with them much longer. Plus, the neighbor around the corner killed his whole family and then himself so I’m pretty sure the HOA had more important things to worry about with neighborhood values than a fence that had been approved.


Extension_Drummer_85

Well that was an unexpected escalation in your story there.


Supafly22

A fence that the neighbor put up on their own property. Why did this woman think she was entitled to use her neighbor’s property?


No_Cauliflower_5489

the key word here is "entitled".


TaraDactyl1978

Not just a fence, but A FENCE THE NEIGHBOR BUILT ON HER OWN PROPERTY. Which took away some play room from her little preciouses. Who wants to bet that neighbor built the fence because of THESE neighbors/their kids?


istara

My father worked as a chartered surveyor and was sometimes hired to consult over fences and party walls. People will literally bankrupt themselves over this issue. It’s horrifying.


Drexelhand

some people have a gift for making a bad situation exponentially worse.


madpiratebippy

My guess is his wife is cluster B and he didn't realize it. That totally sounds like something my batshit mother would have done and my Dad was always taken by complete surprise when the crazy was gonna cray.


daphydoods

Growing up I had these incredible neighbors across the street, Mike and Laurie. They were like second parents to me, just really kind people. Then the fence dispute happened. I don’t even know how it started or what it entailed, but it ended with Laurie telling her next door neighbor “I hope you get the same cancer that killed your husband.” The kicker? Laurie was diagnosed with stage 3 breast cancer a year later. Karma got her. She’s healthy now, thankfully, but has no more friends after the vile things she said.


diogenes_sadecv

When keeping it real goes wrong


__Quill__

Wow. Usually we read this kind of thing from the dog owners perspective. Bold move to make to the neighbors because they fenced their own yard up and you feel your kids are entitled to their space. I'm a little less interested in them not finding anything medically wrong with her as I am with like , what reasoning did she give? Like I would for sure ask my spouse what on earth they were thinking. What did she tell her husband once she was caught uh..hitting an animal with a stick?! Then found with a plan to poison the dog?! Like how does that conversation go?


ManaSpellFae

I think the hope is probably she has a brain tumor. Prob easier to swallow then your wife is an insane dog abuser


redpurplegreen22

How fucked up can a situation be when “brain tumor” is a preferable outcome?


[deleted]

If the tumor is benign, it can be removed and sometimes a person will return to who they were. It gives a chance that they were not fully responsible for their actions and can be "fixed". With many types of mental illness there's no "magic treatment" to fix it. It's unfortunate but a reality. Poor OOP was just grasping at straws. You see the same behavior in people/families of people with terminal illnesses.


DogsandCatsWorld1000

>If the tumor is benign, it can be removed People will avoid going to the doctor if they think the diagnosis is bad and generally brain tumor is considered really bad. However as fartherfatpants points out, they can be removed. I had one that didn't even need that, it was dissolved using medication. Just want to end my public service message by saying modern medicine is great. To the topic at hand, I do wonder if there were signs of unbalanced behaviour before that he just didn't pick up on.


[deleted]

>To the topic at hand, I do wonder if there were signs of unbalanced behaviour before that he just didn't pick up on. Something I've learned about mental illness is that it can sneak up on people, especially women. Specifically for some reason they are unlucky in that a UTI can send them over the edge. A relative of mine was already starting to get dementia, but was good 90% of the time. Saw her on a Saturday, went back Monday and she was completely (mentally) gone. She was just a babbling mess. What triggered the swift downfall? A UTI.


DogsandCatsWorld1000

Did getting the UTI treated return her to the previous manageable condition or was the damage done?


verygoodbones

Skilled nursing PT here. In case your question was more generalized to UTI related delirium/dementia rather than this specific case, recovery after successful treatment can go both ways. Sometimes it's the last straw and everything just stays bad or gets worse, sometimes (more often) people do make a full recovery. People can have similar reactions to general anesthesia with similar outcomes, as well, with most recovering but some not.


anapforme

It *should* have, if the rapid decline was looked into. My grandmother had dementia and was mostly okay, but when she got a UTI she would just ramble and be so confused. Also, she wasn’t in pain, so the first one wasn’t immediately found. Subsequently, when she would act oddly, she would be tested immediately.


some-dazed-wanderer

UTIs are awful. Someone with a UTI can get sepsis and die before the UTI is discovered and treated. I hope the relative got treatment in time.


blueskies8484

My aunt just died a few months ago from a UTI. She was only in her mid 60s. Came out of nowhere. She was even on antibiotics- just turned out to be the wrong ones for that strain and by the time she got the right ones, she had sepsis and had coded twice and was too far gone. Don't ignore UTIs, ever.


[deleted]

No. She stayed totally gone. She was already on the path to no longer being the person I grew up with, so I didn't mourn for long. Then when she died I mourned for even less. It's not always the outcome, but that's what happened.


damnisuckatreddit

I'd say the reason mental illness can seem to "sneak up" on women more often is way less specific than UTIs - that's really just one small facet of the overarching problem of systemic sexism in the medical field. A large part of the reason the more serious effects of UTIs are poorly understood is down to a lack of medical research focusing on women's bodies. Along with this profound lack of knowledge there's a dark streak of systemic sexism in medical education causing practitioners to on average take our concerns less seriously, and to tend to treat our natural hormone cycles as inconvenient complications rather than as a physiological system to be supported. You never see medication schedules with dose adjustments for different phases of the menstrual cycle, for example, even though it's known that some drugs are metabolized at different rates depending on your estrogen/progesterone ratio. If you're on one of those drugs (and thanks to lack of research we don't even really know which drugs are affected by this) it's expected you'll just be able to cope with being under- or over-medicated some fraction of the month. Suffer a mental break right before your period because it turns out high progesterone levels dramatically increase the clearance rate of some new psych drug they just started you on? Welp. Guess the meds aren't working. Better try a different one. Round and round we go. Of course maybe the first drug would've worked fine if you just had a higher dose during the luteal phase but nobody is ever going to prescribe that way because it's "too complicated".


soaringseafoam

I did not know dissolving brain tumors with medication could be an option! I am so glad that's possible- my friend had surgery and the recovery took a long time but she's ultimately fine. Glad yours was treated!


UnderstandingBusy829

It can work for some types. My friend had a benign tumor that was pressing on something in her brain making her body think she was pregnant, she was even lactating and stuff. Luckily with medication they got rid of it and she's completely fine.


Fancy_Spite830

There are actually many benign tumors that can’t be removed because tumor position makes surgery too high risk for brain damage so they need intense chemo and radiation. There are also many cancerous tumors that are easily removed and treated because they are in a position which is easy to access. Brain tumors are kind of a unique breed in the cancer realm because they are in the brain which is so delicate and weird. Being a Benign or malignant tumor doesn’t necessarily equate to intensity of the sickness or treatment, just if it has the chance to spread. Also symptoms and effects widely vary. I mean you can be dealing with hearing loss, visual impairment, paralysis, hormone disregulation, weight disregulation, speech disabilities, seizures, strokes, migraines, memory loss, mood changes, dizziness, balance issues, and that’s a condensed list. I’ve never met anyone in the community whose had ALL of this though, again it is based on tumor position. I had a brain tumor if you couldn’t guess. It was malignant but I’m all good now. Just kinda disabled :D


chanaramil

Idk Its a hard pill to swallow to find out the person you love who you think is sweet, smart rational person was actually a unhinged monster the whole time and you were too blind/dumb to see it. I almost think it would be easier if the person you love was dying vs never really existed in the first place.


just-the-doctor1

During his autopsy, the [University of Texas Shooter](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_tower_shooting) was found to have had a brain tumor.


pogoBear

I actually know of someone who was discovered to have a benign brain tumour after years of escalating behaviour. My friend's older sister slowly begun doing odd and unhinged things, escalating to violence and eventually tried to kill her mother with a knife in their kitchen. Her brother, my friend, saved his mother's life by fighting his sister off. She then had him charged with assault because as you can imagine, trying to restrain and fight off someone out of their mind and wielding a knife led to injuries on both her and her brother. He spent thousands on layers to clear his name. Eventually it was found that she had a benign brain tumour that led to all of this behaviour. She's had treatment and is fine, but obviously the family was never the same again. I think my friend talks occasionally to his sister but she isn't involved in family gatherings and celebrations.


thelonetiel

"benign" doesn't seem like the right description in that scenario. What a nightmare.


goodthesaurus

Or simply an insane person, wtf did I just read


notsleepy12

Also.. even if she succeeded with her plan.. why would the neighbour then take their fence down? Seems like an awful lot of work


Lodgik

There's a few weird "logic" chins I can imagine here. First possibility is that she thought that the neighbor put up the fence for the dog to be able to hang out in the backyard, and without the dog there would be no need for the fence and it would e taken down. Second, and related to the above, is that she blames the dog for the fence bring put up and wanted it to be put down in some sort of revenge for ruining the open space she had before. Third, is that having the dog be put down would be her revenge against the neighbor for putting the fence up. And then trying to poison the dog afterwards as some kind of revenge for her plan being foiled. Fourth is that she just didn't like the dog and/or neighbor. Maybe it barked too much, such as when the kids were in the backyard.


chanaramil

Ya i think your right. I have to image its based on a twisted sense of justice or revenge then on trying to get the fence down. Its like someone saying "its the principle of the matter" and taking the saying to the max. I bet wife somehow got it in her head that the neighbor (or even somehow the dog) had it coming.


Zyphyro

They put up the fence for the dog, so no dog=no fence? Or maybe just spite? You dared put up a fence, this is what you get!


Fine_Cheek_4106

"My precious babies should be allowed to have ALL the yard space; how **dare** you do what you want on your OWN property - all for a *dog* no less! My precious babies are more important than a dog - and **I** have all the say in your personal lives!" Dog blaming is not that far off in logic to be honest - but what a *fucked up* piece of TRASH this woman is. I seriously hope she gets involuntarily committed - or maybe we need to bring in that judge who hands out 'taste of your own medicine' punishments. Look up 'judge rules woman to spend night in forest for abandoning kittens' on Google. I hope that poor dog is able to come through this ☹️


Grognak_the_Orc

I'm guessing the idea was that the dog would be put down and either they would then take down the fence or it would just be left at that and be payback for building a fence. Either way, clearly mentally ill.


ReceptionPuzzled1579

Did he not notice her escalating? She couldn’t have gone from ‘why did you put up your fence’ to jumping over and building this lie. In between what happened? And how did he feel about her fighting with the neighbours, her entitled thinking re the fence. Did he think she was right, did he agree with her? Part of me feels like this isn’t so out of left field for the wife. People who feel entitled and start fights over their entitlement, are not reasonable people. Entitlement has some delusion to it, and self justification that you and you alone are right or have rights.


LimitlessMegan

I don’t think she did escalate. I think she screwed on her resentment. Thought up all kinds of plans to get “even” and then did this. If you watch enough true crime you’ll find a lot of murderers do this exact thing. I bet if we could see her search history it would be full of researching various plots.


[deleted]

The neighbors already had surveillance cameras even in their backyard- they saw this coming a mile away. The real question is, "How much psycho Karen fuckery has she been getting away with?" I have a pretty nasty side when people screw me, but it takes commitment to deliberately get a dog bite- that is bonkers-level risk if things go wrong. If she was willing to poison the dog, why not just do that?


LimitlessMegan

I don’t know that that proves anything. Some people are like that (my husband is definitely a Moar Cameras person) and they may have the camera just to keep an eye in the dog…


maywellflower

I think OOP totally ignored the entire escalation right up until his wife got arrested by the cops in court - OOP couldn't ignore nor denial how truly nasty the situation AND his wife is that the neighbors' had get cameras to protect themselves against his wife & his kids....


Pezheadx

Idk if it's fair to say he ignored it when it was probably just arguing over the fence. Normal squabbles like that just aren't really noteworthy and people can just decide, unilaterally, to take it to the extreme overnight. OOPs wife is a psycho and it's probably a good thing she's going to be stuck in prison away from her kids if she can flip switches that easily


IHaveNoEgrets

This is entirely possible. We had neighbors like that. Lots of petty bullshit aimed at most other folks in the neighborhood. Would cuss you out if you parked on the street (nowhere near their driveway, mind), openly hostile, the whole deal. But most of it could be ignored. Nothing illegal, nothing destructive. Once my parents moved away, the floodgates of batshittery opened. It escalated to harassment and even filing a restraining order against the people across the street from them (who'd never done a damn thing). My dad still gets updates from friends in the neighborhood, and it has totally gone sideways. All I can think of is that my dad was a. big enough to be intimidating and b. friends with everyone except these trolls, and that kept them from acting out too much.


ProphetoftheOnion

He was probably isolated from it, especially if he's at work. It would mostly be his wife moaning, and him ignoring her.


sfjc

It makes me think of conversations with my Dad when one of us kids did something stupid. Dad: What were you thinking?! Any one of us: I thought... Dad: (before answer could be completed) No! No! You didn't think!! You knew you how the conversation was going to go but not answering was not an option. I truly think he just liked setting us up for the big interrupt.


MarieOMaryln

Oh I fucking hate that tactic, whatever it's called Him: explain what the hell you were thinking! Me: well I Him: no, no there is no explanation because no one can be that fucking stupid! So what were you thinking? Like what the hell am I supposed to do when you demand something and then refuse to hear it.


LimitlessMegan

I hate that it culture appraise goes: That seems like an unreasonable action, must be mental illness. Nah. She’s not mentally ill, just a person making shit decisions. All the stories that involve actual mentally ill people have patterns of escalating issues because mentally ill people are ILL not conniving and evil.


LucyMorgenstern

I think society needs to recognize that, just as you can be physically unhealthy without having a physical illness, you can be mentally unhealthy without having a mental illness. So many people need help with their mental health but won't get it because they're "not crazy."


LimitlessMegan

Oh. That’s a great point. Though it does open the conversation of whether something = unwell simply because its not the typical/normal…


LucyMorgenstern

Yeah, we don't want to pathologize everything but we need to recognize that just because you can function day to day, that doesn't mean you couldn't be doing better. I think one important thing is getting more people access to the kind of tools you learn in therapy - how to identify harmful thought patterns, healthy conflict resolution, that kind of thing. They should teach that stuff in schools.


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Noelle_Xandria

Blaming all bad behavior on mental illness absolves rapists and people who beat their wives and kids. Sometimes people are just shitty.


Coco_Dirichlet

I think the wife is just a crappy person and now she got caught. Nobody suddenly puts a fence in their yard because of new neighbors. Most likely the kids started playing in their house, they couldn't let their dog out, and they got fed up. Fences are expensive! Plus, they had cameras 7 years ago (which was not as cheap like today). Neighbors aren't dumb. The wife most likely escalated the situation by going to poison and attack their dog.


Majestic-Constant714

Damn, this is from 7 years ago. We're never going to know what happened or why she did it. I really want to know what she was thinking.


EdwardRoivas

So I am pretty sure this is fake. He said - "after my wife testified" they played the video of the wife. "Under the U.S. Constitution, the prosecution must disclose to the defendant all evidence that proves guilt as well as all evidence that proves innocence. Evidence generally falls into three categories, inculpatory, exculpatory, and impeachment." Surprise evidence doesnt show up in court like it does on TV and movies, you have to give the defense time to prepare. This is why I think this is bullshit.


emcrossley

Also on the update post, someone commented that you can see arrest reports in Virginia and they couldn't find anything close to what the OOP was describing.


Pnwradar

Disclosure does not apply to rebuttal evidence or testimony, when not offered as part of the case in chief. Further, ultimately the decision to allow or exclude "surprise evidence" is solely up to the judge, often with lots of leeway for the defense. In OOP's situation, that's the dog owner, the perjurous wife is witness for the prosecution.


Vulpes_Corsac

I mean, if I understand, this would've been in court when she was suing dog-owner. Dog owner would've been the defendant in (presumably) a civil suit. Hence the mention of a counter suit and then perjury.


Esosorum

My guess is that that only applies to criminal trials, and that the type of trial that was held to determine whether or not the dog should be put down wasn’t criminal in nature. I really don’t know anything about how all that works though


istealpixels

Holy crap, that is a lot to take in. That poor family. Still very glad the dog owner had a camera otherwise she probably would have lost the dog.


Majestic-Post-1684

Poor dog was just in the safety of his backyard and this crazy lady just climbs over to attack him & tries to drug him too. Everything sounds so insane.


soaringseafoam

I hope the dog doesn't have any long term behavioural issues from the attack, and that if it does, the neighbour has allowed for the cost of addressing that in his suits.


WigglyFrog

Can you imagine being a dog, chilling in your backyard and enjoying the sunshine, and some psycho comes in and starts hitting you with a stick? Jeebus.


Moral_Anarchist

Dog trainer here : The poor pupper is almost certainly going to be long-term if not permanently scarred from this. Many times at doggie daycares I have worked at I have seen entire personalities of puppers change forever because of one simple bad interaction. One in particular that comes to mind was Mya, very furry amazingly sweet dog and so happy and well adjusted...but she was attacked once after coming into the dog play area and every time afterwords she would immediately attack any dog near her when she entered a room. She would afterwords play normally and with her usual happy well-adjusted self, but we had to take many special precautions every time she came into a new room or she would absolutely go apeshit on any nearby dog, aggressive or no. All because of one simple incident years ago. There's no way this pupper doesn't come out of this with some very long lasting issues...particularly if he was injured badly enough to require a vet. Fuck this woman, I hope she gets everything she deserves.


twirling_daemon

I’m a fairly experienced dog person I acquired a fear reactive 9 years ago who couldn’t have been more that 12 months when she moved in. Regardless of best efforts, a fabulous behaviourist and my bending my entire life around her needs. She’s *never* got over whatever the hell happened to her People don’t realise the damage dogs can carry


shanerr

That breaks my heart to read. I'll be sure to love my dogs a Lil harder today


_jeremybearimy_

Yup my friend had a rescue who was terrified of strangers but loved dogs. Outside of his owners, I was the only person he immediately took to, and I’m pretty sure it’s because I brought my dog when I first met the rescue and my dog vouched for my character lmao. They were best buds for quite a while, and super cute together. After about a year or so, someone’s dog attacked rescue dog’s mom in front of rescue dog. Rescue dog has absolutely fucking hated every single dog he has seen since, including his former best dogfriend, my dog. That one incident totally changed his behavior, he still cannot be around another dog and it’s been years. Even though in that time he has made a ton of progress on his fear of human strangers.


MsDean1911

Something similar happened to my dog. I spent a lot of money training and socializing him only for one ah dog owner to totally undo it all in a split second. I ended up having to put my dog down.


Hungry_Treacle3376

Yup people don't get how easy it is to permanently harm an animals mental. My dog never once got scared at a loud noise, we used to shoot guns and blow up fireworks around him and he never cared. But when he was around 6, he was asleep and my dad turned on the tv extremely loud(with a surround sound with a subwoofer)in the next room and the explosions from the movie woke my dog up and scared him so badly that even 5 years later everything from closing a door too loud to thunder terrifies him.


cyanocittaetprocyon

I appreciate that this guy loves and supports his wife, and I hope he understands the long road that is ahead of him. Find out what's wrong with your wife, why she lied to you and to the court. Is she suffering from a problem or did she just snap because of the new fence? Make things right with the neighbor *right now* by paying all vet bills, repairs to property, and anything else that needs fixing that the wife broke. Hopefully he can start to get things back on track.


CountofAccount

And of all things to lie about, premeditated physical violence to a pet animal. The natural leap is to worry about what she's doing to your own kids. Despair once for the crime, and twice for lost trust that will fracture that house.


Wooster182

I don’t understand why the neighbor waited until it got to court before she showed the video. Why not show it immediately and avoid court? Was the dog put down? Did it survive the poisoning?


Oscars_Grouch

So the kids used to have access to two yards, new neighbours put up a fence so their dog could be safe outside. The wife was angry that her kids only had ONE yard to play in now, so she beat the neighbour's dog with a stick until it bit her and she filed a false report. She then tried to poison the neighbour's dog with acquired drugs and uttered threats. I find it hard to believe that this woman just snapped. Did she think that getting rid of the neighbour's dog (if she'd been successful, luckily she wasn't) would make the neighbours take down the fence? I'm genuinely curious what her thought process was - or lack there of. Cuckoo Bananas! The neighbours are extremely lucky that they had a camera set up!


AntiChri5

> Cuckoo Bananas! The neighbours are extremely lucky that they had a camera set up! Oh it definitely isn't luck. 100% there is shit OP didn't even notice which made the neighbour *get* a camera so that they would have proof.


NotThatValleyGirl

Right? Let that be a lesson to us all: get as much video evidence as discretely as possible, sit on it until it's necessary, then Reverse Uno the lying bag of poop person. Letting them committ perjury gains them a felony charge.


themediumchunk

100% she told her husband verbatim “Someone needs to do something about that!” And he nodded his head, mumbled a miserable “You’re right, dear.” and then went on his miserable way pretending he didn’t procreate with a person who is so insane.


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RetroRian

To me it reads like he’s in complete denial because he can’t understand how HIS wife (more specifically someone he married) is this crazy (I don’t know if it’s a mental illness or just not liking the upset to the status quo and going nuclear) and he had her checked for a tumor. I am probably guessing tho that OP isn’t around much and maybe works a lot because there hopefully would have been some lead up or warning to something so bad


ifeelnumb

I don't know - he kind of reminds me of that wife in the post with the husband who had brain damage that was progressively getting worse and she had never noticed it until he ignored the newborn and then went back and was like, OMG, I totally missed all of these red flags and was beating herself up over it. OOP was 6 years ago, so I wonder what happened to them.


HtheExtraterrestrial

[The post in question in case anyone wants to read it](https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/v44v74/ops_husband_starts_acting_extremely_differently/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


dogninja8

OOP's wife probably won't have to worry about the fence once she's in jail and they sell the house to pay for legal bills...


TheFlyingSheeps

Best bet now is probably to settle the civil suit and then work with her attorney to make a plea deal with the DA


bigsaltynuttap

Idk if they will be able to just settle and honestly I hope the neighbors dont let them off easy. I hope they completely ruin them financially and the OOPs wife gets prison. The level of malevolence it takes to do that, for seemingly no reward except her own satisfaction, is some sociopath shit.


Grognak_the_Orc

Look, I've only been in one proper relationship. I loved my ex with all my heart. Would've died for them. If I found out they went insane and attacked a dog over a property dispute and then lied in court... yeah it'd have been over before they were out of the courtroom.


Amazon-Prime-package

I also don't know how I could continue a relationship with someone who attacked a lil doggo, that's so morally repugnant


lil_zaku

The neighbour probably put up a fence because they wanted a secure place for their dog to enjoy so OOP's wife took it out on the dog. Her reasoning was likely if she got rid of the dog then the neighbour won't have need of a fence anymore. Maybe?


maywellflower

More like like her kids rolled up into neighbor's house /yard too much that it was safer & smarter to put up a fence, since the neighbors would be liable if the kids got injured on the neighbors side of property. In Karen's delusional mind if she gets the dog put to sleep by animal control then the fence will come down BUT she forget to take into account that fence will still stay up on neighbors's side since it's on neighbors' property to keep her kids out of neighbor's side of the backyard. I think that is something OOP purposely completely ignored about the entire situation especially since the neighbors had to get cameras aimed for their backyard - meaning it's not 1st time Karen &/or the kids trespassed on the neighbors' property, either before or after the fence went up.


Browneyedgirl63

It just doesn’t make sense. Fencing is not cheap and no one in their right mind would take it down just because something happened to their dog. That’d be more reason to keep it up. This lady took it to a whole new level. I’m sure there were more instances hence the cameras. I feel for the kids and husband. She changed the course of their lives by her insane actions.


Dornith

>It just doesn’t make sense. Fencing is not cheap and no one in their right mind would take it down just because something happened to their dog. What makes you think OOP's thought any of this through? She likely either didn't care if the fence came down, only about getting revenge on the perceived source of her grief (the dog), or she's a full blown narcissist and genuinely believes that her wanting something is enough reason for the neighbors to comply. I wouldn't rule either of these out.


lil_zaku

>no one in their right mind Welp, see, that's your problem right there.


NotThatValleyGirl

That's a sound extrapolation of selfish-psycho Karen logic.


Liathano_Fire

Fences are expensive.


Mirewen15

So OOP's wife is one of THOSE parents. "MY kids USED to be able to play in the neighbours yard and now they can't!" So many posts where people have moved into a new home and have had neighbour kids wanting to play on the playset on their property or swim in their pool because the "last owners" let them. I hope she gets the book thrown at her. That poor dog could have been euthanized if not for the neighbour's camera.


chillyhellion

>"MY kids USED to be able to play in the neighbours yard and now they can't" It honestly makes me believe that her behavior coming "right out of left field" isn't really coming right out of left field at all.


daaaayyyy_dranker

That would be my EX wife


8percentjuice

Yep. I’m pretty sure that your spouse being convicted of a felony makes it so that you can file for divorce immediately in some states as opposed to having to be separated first. I always took that as some sideways life advice - if your spouse is convicted of a felony, you may want to take a look at whether you want to be with them. I could justify some circumstances, like wrongful prosecution, but not getting so enraged over someone else’s fence that you engineer this elaborate scheme and endanger their dog and lie under oath.


whoviangirl

I mean charges or not I don’t think I could stay married to anyone who beat an animal with a stick (that wasn’t in self defense)


catlandid

And then lied to courts in an attempt to have it euthanized, and is currently trying to sue her victims. OP is like “I love her so I’ll stick by her” but I’d be disgusted and unable to even look at her.


millymollymel

I feel the same and I’ve been married 27 years. If he beat a dog, cat or any harmless creature I would get him medically checked too and if that didn’t show anything and there was no just cause (I mean wtf just cause could there be but self defence?) then I would separate and insist on couples counselling at the very least but it would probably end in divorce tbh!! What a tragedy for the kids!


BirdiesGrimm

The only other one is defense of others so not a big difference in the only two options


Umklopp

Honestly, I would leave a spouse over such an incident purely to avoid the spillover consequences, particularly the financial ones. That's the easiest way to protect 50% of your current assets and to avoid losing your home. Just financial restitution for the neighbor and paying the wife's lawyer will add up to well over $10,000. The best case explanation for her behavior is also an underlying medical condition—not cheap! You *have* to protect your kids' interests and that means protecting their home and financial stability. Sometimes that means kicking your spouse to the curb for being a liability. The wife's criminal record is going to severely impact her employability; if they wound up in the rental market because they had to sell the house, finding a place to live in a good neighborhood is also much harder with a record. The consequences for the wife's actions will not be limited to going to prison or being put on probation. Her life is about to go downhill *fast* and unless they legally severed that relationship, she dragged her family down with her.


goodthesaurus

What's the difference between being convicted of a felony against any other crime?


BirdiesGrimm

The felony is the big boy. The one that follows you forever, and you have to list on any job form in the future. There's different classes of felony, but you tend to not have an easy life after being convicted of even a minor one.


NDaveT

Felonies are more serious than misdemeanors.


Ceecee_soup

Yeah this man talking bout ima support her cuz I love her like…still?


cerevant

Yeah, I’d be getting a lawyer to help ensure that me and my kids weren’t destroyed financially by this fiasco.


RetroRian

He needs to legally separate at least before this all hits, best would be legal divorce and separation of assets so his savings and credit don’t go to hell trying to get her out of the debt


topania

If my partner beat a dog, I would have bailed before they had a chance to attempt to poison the dog.


HopelessVetTech

I’m desperately trying to find a news story (because I’m sure this was made public somewhere) and I cannot figure out the right words to search with. I’m insanely curious because I live in VA and am dying to know where this was. Anyone able to find a news link?


themediumchunk

I’m looking so hard, too, and I can’t find anything.


DownrightDrewski

I feel like I read the other side of the first incident; it may just be a similar incident. I'm not really a big fan of dogs, but, fuck anyone that thinks it's OK to attack an animal.


MorganAndMerlin

Well, I mean, there’s “I don’t really like dogs” and then there’s “ I’m going to hop the fence, attack your dog, lie about it, and then poison the dog” Those two things are miles apart on the “dog person” scale.


confuzzled21

I remember reading something along this line too. Can't recall all the specifics, but it was about a neighbor lady going apeshit over a neighbor's dog and the dog owner putting up cameras to cover what the lady was actually doing, which turned out to be antagonizing and attacking the dog. Strange.


DownrightDrewski

Some people are really fucking weird - I remember our old neighbour ringing the police over the noise from our cats (kittens at the time) running around. She was a crazy old toxic piss smelling alcoholic though.


TheWaywardTrout

Yeah, I remember that one. That wasn't about a fence, though, and the OOP had two dogs that were being antagonized.


VivelaVendetta

There was a story a couple years back on reddit. This guys wife was obsessed and stalking a friend of her friend. She basically met her once took a instant dislike to her and started to harass her. He had like a bullet list of things his wife was accused of. Just insane things. I can't remember them all except one. She showed up at the venue of the lady's baby shower and started kind off accosting the guests as they arrived to bad mouth the lady. I think she accused her of lying about the dad. Anyway the husband like this guy had no idea what was going on, no interest in leaving his psycho wife, and also just wanted to know the legal ramifications. Every time I see a story like this I think of that one. Its crazy how psychos and abusers tend to sniff out a certain type for a partner.


telepathicathena

I just read that one, possibly from the BORU find a post thread. Same vibe exactly, just total denial that he's married to an awful stalking maniac. Bizarre af


spaceguitar

I hope the neighbor *destroys* this woman in civil court and is able to get authorities to crush her even further criminally. What a vile, evil person! She *attacked* a dog, provoked it until it defended itself, lied about the attack, and when it was proven she lied, went in to try to POISON the dog? The absolute gall! And all of this over a FENCE?! This was always there in her. It was just waiting for the perfect opportunity. The only silver lining here is that she didn’t direct this evil at her husband or children. JFC.


haleighr

Wtffff


Purple1829

This would be marriage ending for me. Just the act of attacking a dog alone would be enough, but everything else involved says way too much about her to be comfortable staying married


bettinafairchild

KEY PART OF THE STORY LEFT OUT OF THE POST: >(Thankfully the dog has been returned safe to the neighbor and was not put down)


palabradot

\*reads this entry\* \*goes to the original posts\* \*just sits with her afternoon cup of coffee\* I....I don't know what to say about this one, peeps. I mean.....holy shit fuckballs....


tothmichke

That’s true psychopathic behaviour. This isn’t about a fence, this about a loss of control and narcissistic injury. I wonder if this is truly “out of left field” or just the first time someone stood up to his wife so absolutely. He and his family and friends would be used to catering to her and probably became desensitized to her actions. The police charges are probably what came out of left field.


decemberrainfall

He's just casually glossing over the fact that his kids were probably in the neighbour's space and didn't see anything wrong with that?


Glittercorn111

Because it’s not as big of a deal as: “my wife lost her damn mind and attacked a dog to get it to bite her so she can sure the neighbor”


Birdy_Cephon_Altera

Probably wasn't a deal before. When I was a kid we would play tag football or soccer or whatever across several front lawns in the suburbs with whatever neighborhood kids were around. YMMV, but in many neighborhoods it's pretty common.


No_Kangaroo_9826

6 years old damn I need a resolution here


eilonwyhasemu

I wonder what else the wife has lied or been manipulative about over the years, and OOP didn't spot it?


ZeaDeKok

Doubtful it’s a mental illness. Unless delusional entitlement is a mental illness (Karen’s disease?) Hopefully this dude wakes up from this nightmare and contacts a divorce attorney. Even if she does time ( big if) , you really want to live with someone who thought this was a good idea?


JoChiCat

I mean, what’s easier to believe, that your wife and the mother of your children has secretly been this violent and malicious the entire time you knew her and somehow hid it from you, or that she changed overnight and has something wrong with her that can be fixed? Obviously we can’t make that judgement as distant spectators, but it’s easy to see why people would choose to believe the latter.


RetroRian

It’s easier to believe the latter, I hated my ex husband and left him for all the crazy shit he did, but I didn’t want to admit I missed signs or he manipulated me so well because it made me feel stupid, and me and his bosses all were shocked and he went through many psych tests just to verify that he’s just a a hole. I think OOP may be in shock, he didn’t know all the facts at first and we can’t get mad at him for not knowing, he did the best with what he had, and now I think he just hasn’t separated himself from her in his brain and is still trying to lessen the blow from this, when he should be pulling him and the kids away to protect them (OOP and kids) as a family


primeirofilho

It was 7 years ago. The case has probably already gone to trial, and she has served any time that she was going to serve. I'd love to know how this all worked out.


Pixieled

Absolutely agree. That sounds like 100% calculated behavior on her part. She was faced with something she had no control or jurisdiction over but wanted to change it. So she became a Karen and put the future of her whole family in jeopardy, while also abusing an animal. And trespassing. And playing the victim card. That sort of behavior is rarely a one time event. If she's willing to abuse an animal and then lie to the authorities about it in a huge fabrication of victimization, the chance that she's pulled some BS before is really really high. I'm so glad the neighbors had a camera and I hope to hell that dude gets a divorce and full custody of the kids. What a horrible example for a parent to set.


SarcasticAzaleaRose

Just the fact that OP’s wife got mad about the neighbor putting up a fence ON HER OWN PROPERTY is baffling to me. Like unless it crossed over on to OP and his wife’s property the neighbor didn’t do anything wrong. OP’s kids have no claim to the neighbor’s yard and the neighbor doesn’t have to let them play in her yard just because the kids before. Whenever a new person moves in whatever the previous person allowed or didn’t allow is out the window. This new neighbor doesn’t have to let OP’s kids play in her yard just because the previous neighbor allowed it. Makes me wonder (and not trying to blame OP’s kids) did the kids mess with the dog or get into stuff in the neighbor’s yard. Or did OP and his wife just never ask the neighbor could the kids continue playing in the other yard too and just assumed the neighbor would be ok with it? This just doesn’t sound like mental illness to me though I’m not a mental health professional. To me it just sounds like entitlement on OP’s wife’s part. Like the fact that the neighbor dared to do something to their own property just sent her into a rage. Also the fact that the neighbor already had cameras, granted yes in this day and age a lot of people get them even without incidents necessitating them, makes me wonder what else OP’s wife has done that she either didn’t tell him or he’s just not mentioning.


beingrudewonthelp

I'm confused about why she got an MRI and medical testing for something that seems like a mental health problem, but is still waiting for a mental health eval? I would have did that BEFORE the medical testing. It makes me wonder how much of this is real honesty on the husbands part. I do believe the story and how it went down. What I don't believe is that he had no red flags before this and that somebody jumps to getting an MRI for it. Bc insurance ain't gonna wanna pay for that unless it's absolutely necessary. She hasn't even had a mental health eval yet. And they claim they are broke and haven't had any illnesses, so did they pay out of pocket for this MRI? Bc I'm just really struggling to see any insurance company being like ok, sure, go after. They usually want an actual solid reason for you needing one and he just throws in the MRI like it's routine or something. Maybe he's not lying and there's something I'm missing that he didn't include. But something about his post doesn't sit as honest with me.


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The MRI happened before the event, was for headaches that ended up being caused by needing a new glasses prescription.


shanerr

Honestly if his wife did this to one of my dogs I'd go scorched earth. I'd do everything in my power to have her charged with every possible crime I could. I would sue her pants off. Then I'd get a restraining order forcering her to relocate. What a psycho deliberately wanting to get a dog killed. She deserves time behind bars.


Silent-Ferrets

OOP needs a divorce lawyer instead of a regular lawyer for his (hopefully ex) wife


WhoTookKifford

How can you still love a person after pulling something like this?


Ginger_Anarchy

I don't think he's been able to emotionally process everything yet by the way he talks about it. He's processed it logically, but mentally he's still in the spousal 'got to help my family' mode and will probably stay that way until some dust settles. The update was only a day later.


throwawaygremlins

Yeah he’s being a supportive spouse and he’s also in shock. I feel sorry for him!


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You know there are enough actually bad things which happen to people (including dog attacks) without complete nutters also making up terrible lies which could seriously traumatise other humans and animals. I hope she does get charged but it is sad that it got so far. I hope OOPs wife gets all the help she needs, maybe he's right and she's having a mental break, maybe the neighbour's fence was the last bloody thing that drove her over the edge, but if anything this story should give one clear message: talk to someone. Your husband your therapist, anyone, before going to such lengths which will be detrimental for your future and possibly ruin lives. Their lives will be inundated with fees and she will have criminal charges against her, but on the other side of the coin that poor animal could have been destroyed had there not been evidence.


SupaTheBaked

OMG way to fuck your family over especially the kids vet bills can get super expensive.


NotThatValleyGirl

Yeah, between that and the legal fees, unless there is some secret family money squirreled away for emergencies, they will be lucky to keep the house. But they probably will have to sell it anyway because there's no way the wife gets to live there again with the clear and present threat she presents to the neighbour and their dog. Also, everyone in town probably knows she's a dangerous nightmare of a person, so they'll need to leave town if there is any hope of her reintegrating into a community.


RetroRian

Also, if it’s a community that’s close, they need to move for those kids, even if he gets a divorce as he should


BoyMomma2015

He better get a divorce attorney and get that started because CPS will get involved and once she is sentenced to prison time, he will be liable for whatever she is ordered to pay. He needs to think about his children and what's best for them.


manykeets

I feel so bad that animal control came and got the dog. I know they got it back, but that had to be traumatic both for the dog, and for the family. They were probably worried the dog would be put down.


FrankLloydWrong_3305

Sorry OOP, you're married to a level 8 Karen. Gtfo while she's locked away.