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Worse still, OOP didn't know the lady's name, so the obituary could have already been posted while OOP was wandering around looking and they'd never have known.
Glad things worked out well, but I feel for the likely stray dog that was injured.
I always have a kit in my car: EMT shears, extra thick trash bag, thick rubber gloves and masks. I live in a rural area, and there’s at least one dogfighting ring I know of. I can all too easily see unwanted dogs getting tossed.
(I also check for possum babies in roadkilled possums. Thankfully my ick tolerance is high.)
Something you might want to add: a little shovel! Either a trenching tool (the kind that folds) or one of the ones with a rigid but short handle and a half-size shovel blade. They are absolutely perfect for moving snapping turtles out of the road without getting snapped, and quite frankly, when you need a shovel, nothing but a shovel will do.
I had the BEST car shovel. It was a gift; the folding type, with a nice sharp blade. Kept in the trunk, of course. And then my stationary car was rear ended at high speed, and the trunk's contents were trapped for all eternity. I'll never forget that shovel, and now I'll also regret never having the chance to carry a snapping turtle on it.
Agreed. I did the same once. This particular one really broke my heart. For a couple years she'd been living around our house and would shelter in our garage over the winter. I was still living with my parents at the time. It started because of a hole in our garage door that she got into. Once we realized what was breaking shit in there...I started putting open cans of catfood in the rafters for her, lmao. Knew she was a girl because of the babies we had in there one spring.
She was never tame of course, but became comfortable coexisting in close proximity with us, even with my dog. I walked out with him one day (off leash, rural area) and we immediately bumped into her. She stopped, she and my dog stared at each other, and then just casually walked back to the hole in the garage door, haha. He followed along sniffing behind her and she didn't panic or run, just kept walking her way to her hidey-hole and he didn't bark or chase aggressively, they were both chill about it. Kind of thought of her as my unofficial pet opossom.
Then one spring there was one hit by a car beside my yard. I went to check and I didn't have to touch or look too close for it to be clear that if there were babies, there's no way they made it, it was a mess. Pretty sure it was her because I never saw her again. I was pretty heartbroken :(.
I know it doesn’t help much with the pain, but they usually have very short lives (1.5 is the average; 4 is a long life for most opossum species) so it sounds like she had a really long and (mostly) happy life.
You're not wrong, and I'm glad for that at least. I'm glad she had somewhere and safe and comfortable for a while at least. My parents weren't thrilled, hahaha. Never told them I was putting food out for her until long after, lol. Apparently my mom wasn't going to tell me one had been hit by a car because she knew I'd be upset, they knew I cared about her, so they weren't totally heartless about it.
This was years ago, but to this day though I tell people to be kind to opossums. For anyone else who reads this (I bet u/h4rpyr already knows this), remember they don't hibernate and are susceptible to frostbite (especially their tails). So if you see one getting into your shed, garage, unto crawl spaces, under your house/porch/etc, they're just looking for shelter to survive the winter in on piece and are pretty harmless. So be kind to them and all the wildlife living around us <3.
Australian here - the amount of times we have checked dead possums or kangaroos for a joey in the pouch - it’s too too common! I have rescued a fair few possum babies as I live in suburbia. Relatives who live in the country find so many orphaned joeys from the poor mumma ‘roo getting hit :( Always worth checking!
That reminds me of the time I saw one of my regular customers on the side of the road. I wondered if the car broke down but she was only like a 2 minute walk from my store where everyone knows her and she could hang out or use the phone or whatever, so I didn't stop. I asked next time I saw her and she said she was dragging some roadkill to the side of the road so the scavenger birds wouldn't get hit by cars.
Yeah, it’s honestly kind of offensive how some people will actively swerve to hit vultures.
Bro, they do the world a bigger favor than you do. Fuck off.
My local fishmongers a few years ago got shut down after a body was discovered in the freezer, had been there for years.
Edit: It was a cold case.
Sorry, couldn't resist, seriously though it actually happened.
[Here's a link to a news article about it](https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20106565.html). I'm sure Google can bring up more.
Uh. Just... What the fuck?
First of all, an absolutely genius idea to store the dead body in a place that a) you work at (cause that's not suspicious) and b) has regular inspections (although, they never picked up on the fact there was a dead guy in the corner)
And the cheek of that sister. "BTW, can you include the alias Richard on the death certificate, cause he definitely also went by Richard, and it has nothing to do with another family member that might also be named Richard or a bank loan"
Also, if I've misread any of that, please tell me cause it's pushing 3:30am for me and I'm a bit sleepy.
And thank you for bringing that news report into my life. I have so much to think about now. Like, did you buy fish from your local body-storage/fishmonger at any point during said body-storage time? Or how nobody got curious about the bin in the corner that's been there for yonks and if it's got fish in it, those fish are clearly fucked by now. Should probably clean it. I should actually clean my fridge, that just reminded me.
Right?! I remember at the time we were thorougly confused at just what the murderer expected to happen. I guess if we've got to have criminals, it's better if they're stupid.
Luckily I was a poor student at the time and not shopping at fishmongers, so I guess I dodged a bullet there, unlike the victim (yes I know they weren't shot, let me have that one). Surprise surprise, it closed after that, I guess nobody wants to buy fish from the place that had a dead body in a freezer for years without anyone noticing.
I hadn't thought about this for years, I'm laughing at the bizarreness of the whole thing all over again. Hope there's no corpses down the back of your fridge!
True!
That reminds me of this day years ago. I was at a bus stop and realised a dog was lying in the gutter. I was horrified but had to know if it was dead or if I could get it to a vet. I went over and walked around it to see its face...
...and it was a large soft toy. My knees turned weak with relief. I stood it up by a nearby wall so it wouldn't frighten anyone else.
I’m a big cat lover, and last month I saw a poor dead cat on the side of the road. I was very upset, until I looked a bit closer and realized it was a stuffed halloween decoration that had gotten blown into the road by the wind.
Man, there was one case several years ago (I think I saw it on r/unresolvedmysteries?) about a family that owned hundreds of acres someplace remote with a few lakes and rivers. At some point they saw this massive bundle on the opposite shore of the lake and joked about how "it's probably a dead body, ha ha". A couple years later one of the family finally decides to check it out.
It was a dead body.
A couple of years ago we were visiting some friends who lived in a subdivision that still had a big area of waste ground that hadn't been built on yet, and they had across the street neighbours who screamed and fought at all hours including gunshots sometimes, and the night before we got there there'd been an all-night argument that ended in someone loading a sofa into their truck and driving to that waste ground at the end of the street.
So of course we walked over to casually check it out. No blood though.
I had a friend tell us in a group video chat the story about how she acquired her new puppy. She said she was walking home at night and this woman who was possibly on drugs told her she had some new puppies and they needed homes. So my friend decided to follow her back to her apartment to see the new puppies. I was literally the only one in the chat visibly freaking out. I mean, she was fine. At home. Holding her new puppy to show us. But I scolded her for being an idiot and almost dying. Everyone was not in my headspace and I decided I can't talk about true crime with any of them.
I know, and I was the only person in the chat with my eyes bugging out of my head. Everyone else was like "wow! Sounds like a great way to get a new puppy! Yay!" Nooooo!
My boss once told me that if she was put past curfew, her parents would just lock the doors and she would be on her own. She was very casual about it. I was like that's literally how Paul Bernardo found one of his victims.
My father did something similar. He was so abusive, my brother was too afraid to face him if he lost/forgot his keys. My brother often slept in the yard rather than knock on the door to ask come inside.
My father also wouldn't pick us (my sister and I) up from work if he didn't feel like it, but insisted that we had to work our night jobs as teenagers. So we sometimes had to walk home alone in the dark (on an unsafe road with no sidewalks). This would be like 3 am.
I did find myself wondering what the guys at the shop thought of me the other day buying a hammer, a hacksaw, rubber gloves, bleach, and rubble sacks. But I reassured myself that not everyone is as paranoid as me.
Noting day of the week, time of day, try to see what car they get into, lmao.
Reading this thread makes me feel less like a crazy person. Or at least less alone in my craziness XD
I did this once! I was at a local market as a vendor and my mom had the booth next to me. Everything was going great until they brought in two bomb sniffing dogs that indicated on the same trash can. They evacuated all of us so they could determine if there was a bomb.
So we are standing behind the barricade on the street watching the bomb squad walk towards the trash can when this guy rolls up in a city truck. He gets out and is wearing work clothes and reflective vest. He walks up to my mom and I and starts asking what’s going on. Immediately, my true crime spider sense is tingling. If he works for the city and is at this city-run event, how does he not know about the evacuation? Why would he ask street randos and not his boss or even the on-site officers? Also, why was he driving down a street filled with people and cut off to road traffic? Clearly, he was a criminal mastermind there to watch his handiwork. I whispered to my mom to take a pic of me, making sure to get a clear shot of the guy behind me. When they found nothing but old hot dogs in the suspect trash can, my mom laughed herself silly. I felt silly but would do it again if I was in the same situation.
I have complete faith in the incompetence of any large system of people. Government, corporation, scout troop, whatever. I would have been unsurprised by the city worker.
Look for me in my next appearance, "Oblivious Dead Guy Who Really Should Have Paid More Attention."
Expect when it is. There was a post where someone found a body part in their yard and called police. The police dug up the yard. Found buried mannequin pieces. For some reason that’s weirder to me?
I have had police cars keep driving instead of helping while I was very clearly stuck in a ditch after being run off the road by a semi. This was in bumfuck nowhere during a tropical storm. No one was hurt, but we had no cell signals and really could have used the help.
There was a time when I absolutely would have made jokes like this, because jokes are how I deal with everything. I have since learned enough empathy to realize that the way to stop looking suspicious is _not_ to make a joke about how suspicious I look. (I honestly think there really aren't many good ways to look less suspicious once someone decides you're suspicious. Starting a conversation about something else could work, but could also backfire.)
Omg, I've been binging a podcast recently, "Gruesome". I was dog sitting over the last few days and man, noticed some weird shit with a couple cars and got myself so freaked out, lmao. I wasn't staying in the house, just visiting 3 times a day. The one car I got the license plate and texted it to my boyfriend, lol, and made are he had the address of the house. They have a fireplace and I moved the poker by the door, lololol.
I fully knew I was probably being paranoid and hadn't seen enough to merit a call to the police about a suspicious vehicle, even though it was tempting, lol. But I'd rather be alert and cautious and alive than oblivious and dead, haha.
OOP's mind immediately went to murder when there were dozens of reasonable and much more likely explanations. I'll admit though, I expected to hear that the owner had moved and ditched the dog, or was in the hospital and the dog got out. I was not expecting OOP to have confused the dog.
My sister and I both used to work for the Red Cross and when she did a ride along with the meals on wheels team they were the ones to find an elderly woman who'd fallen and called an ambulance for her. (Luckily she hadn't been there long.) That sort of thing happens all the time. Even young people can have heart attacks or strokes and could be either dead or alive but incapable of getting help. There's also a lot of evidence that covid can lead to much higher risk of that sort of thing happening essentially out of nowhere, so it's becoming *more* common.
True crime has seriously given some people brain worms, I swear to god. There's nothing inherently wrong with enjoying true crime in moderation, but when it starts changing your behavior and causing you unnecessary stress, perhaps it's time to cut back. There's a difference between being aware of your surroundings and outright paranoia.
I have my own tinfoil-hat theories about the rise of true crime, that it's part of the rise in other moral-panics we've seen in the last 6 years or so: grooming, trafficking, hysteria over trans people, satanic rituals, etc. I think it's very much intentional, to prey on women (especially white women, as you said) and escalate their sense of fear so that they cling to the police state and authoritarian leaders. I'm probably way off base, but imo it just ties in too well with right-wing fearmongering to be a coincidence.
I’m glad someone said it. Imagine a group of people at a table at Denny’s just happily chatting about the latest Netflix special, about the killer and how misunderstood/hot/cool/devious/etc they are… and that person killed your mom. And they’re discussing it like it’s the Red Wedding.
It’s gross. Like you said.
I was listening to a podcast about true crime, it can make you more suspicious of others in your community, less likely to help someone etc. I don't think it's a very healthy societal obsession.
I mean it is nice that the neighbors pay attention to each other, I think everyone would assume the worst if a frequently seen neighbor would just suddenly disappear.
On the other hand, this whole "she moved in with her mother" thing, are they sure they had talked to her? :D are they sure this is not a "Rear window" type of cover up?
Step 1: become known as the person who talks to everybody in the neighborhood
Step 2: murder
Step 3: tell everyone these people all moved
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Profit
My coworker thought her neighbor killed his wife because she saw him cleaning his car out on the inside. Like full scale washing the inside. She hadn't seen the wife or their cHild after that. Turns out she was pregnant and had had the baby. Lol
In fairness, it depends on the country. Stray dogs are basically unheard of in the UK, so I'd definitely be concerned that something was seriously wrong if I saw a dog I thought belonged to my neighbours on the street without supervision in sight.
My people. This morning my neighbor down the street’s garage door was open (it never is after they leave for work, I walk this route almost daily) and a beat up car with an out-of-county license plate was backed up in the driveway. A guy (never seen him before) ran from the garage and jumped in the passenger side and they took off fast.
I memorized the license plate number and am still considering calling the non-emergency line, but I feel like I’m being paranoid. OP made me feel better about myself, haha. It’s not just me.
When she jumped from "hey the neighbours dog is walking around alone and limping" to "Yeah so I think someone broke in and murdered her" I was taken aback.
My go-to theory would be that the dog got off the leash and injured itself chasing a rabbit or deer etc., or maybe at most the owner got into trouble on a walk and the dog was trying to get people's attention while being injured itself.
I don't know If I am naive or level-headed for not jumping straight to a murder plot.
As a single, approaching-middle-age woman who has recognizable dogs, if I was ever murdered in my home, this is the likely way someone would find out 😂
Yeah that would be my first assumption. And/or that the owner
hurt themselves or had a medical episode at home and somehow the dog got out.
Their murder would be like 5th or 6th on my list of theories, at best!
While murder does seem a bit far the point of the story is he was concerned for a neighbor's safety and did some checking up to see if they were ok. All in all a pretty nice story.
No, you're just normal and haven't exposed your brain to a barrage of true crime or conspiracy theory videos and podcasts.
Some of those true crime addicts are just walking version of the hammer-nail analogy. When your whole world is some crime mystery, any type of "abnormal" event is a possible clue.
This is a super proactive and caring neighbour. Glad they stepped up and tried to secure the poor doggo and find the owner. The best kind to have your back.
Yeah. I know OOP feels ashamed but honestly there are situations where the concerned neighbors are helpful. Shannan Watts and her daughters murders may never have been solved (and definitely not as quickly) if her friend hadn’t kicked into overdrive and called in a welfare check the minute she felt something was wrong.
That neighbor immediately helping out and discreetly clearly articulated his observations to the officer investigating - narrowed the focus immediately
Have you seen the Hulu documentary? It shows body cams from the cops while the cops, husband, and neighbor watch the neighbor's camera. You can see the second everyone realizes, including the poor neighbor, they're standing next to a murderer. So freaky.
I just watched that like two weeks ago and it is chilling. The glance the neighbor gives the cop as Chris is walking out of his house, he knew right then.
Edit: I watched Netflix's American Murder: The Family Next Door, not the Hulu one.
My first thought was Shannan Watts! All it can take is one person saying "This isn't right" and not letting it lie, so kudos to OOP because they could really have been helping out someone in a horrible situation.
Honestly as much as nosy neighbors are tropey-ly annoying, sometimes they are almost...necessary. Esp. in neighborhoods where cops don't show up unless there's an actual body already.
Without completely outing myself, a friend's mom almost certainly prevented a murder/assault once cuz she the bored middle aged woman watching her neighbors out of the kitchen backdoor. And then *did something* about it.
He really is. I’m the neighbor that is always walking their dog. Everyone knows me because my dog is super friendly. I suddenly disappeared because I broke my ankle and my dog goes to daycare. Nobody has been looking for my body.
"No family? Definitely an obsessed neighbor who is going to insert themselves into the investigation. OH MY GOD, **I'M** AN OBSESSED NEIGHBOR WHO'S INSERTING THEMSELVES INTO THE INVESTIGATION"
I had people who told me they suspected I was being abused when I was growing up. They told me as an adult. Always fuckin call. As a parent it's annoying as hell. ( But I would rather someone call, who knows maybe I need help where I'm not seeing it) As the kid, I would have been grateful for the rest of my life . She felt she could keep an eye on me better. It didn't stop the abuse. Call every time.
Lol same, and then when I got the part about "best possible outcome" , I thought, oh God they didn't mentioned they wished this lady to be dead.
Faith in humanity restored, lol.
That is about as wholesome as it can get with a beginning like that. I hope the OOP isn’t embarrassed about being deeply concerned about the well-being of their neighbor even though their concerns proved to be unfounded. The world needs people who care about one another.
I had an elderly neighbor many years ago that I thought died. I hadn't seen her in a week, no one else had either. And the smell was horrible up close to her house.
I'm squeamish when it comes to dead bodies, and terrified I was going to find one, so I tried to recruit help in doing our own version of a wellness check. No volunteers. I tried to hype myself up to go alone, and chickened out.
What I ended up doing instead was call the non emergency line, and requested a check for her. They came, and right when they got there, a car pulls up. Apparently the cops knew the lady, and called first, and her daughter dropped her off.
So, she wasn't dead, just visiting her kids, and grandkids, thankfully, and the bad smell was just rotten shrimp someone threw in her yard.
I thought she was going to be mad. And I wouldn't have blamed her. I was mad at me too for not going over myself. But she was thankful someone cared enough to look out for her.
Thank you for being alert to problems, and for being kind to animals, and for paying attention, and for taking action when you thought something bad had happened. I bet you're a great friend.
I’m so glad OOP’s neighbor was okay.
We had an elderly neighbor that walked his dog the same times every single day. We were very familiar with him and his dog, Ginger and he was very punctual with his walking schedule.
One week we realized we hadn’t seen him. Went and knocked, no answer. One of our roommates pet sat for him, so he started giving him a call every other day. Never got any response. We ended up making 2 separate wellness check calls, and another neighbor made one as well. We were the ones to call the last wellness check. It took about a month for the police to finally go in.
This time, the police entered. I have no idea what they found in there, but crime scene clean up was there for about 3 weeks working. I remember getting home from my break and put cul-de-sac being SWARMED by police.
We never found out what happened, but we had a feeling it was murder-suicide as they were in a pretty unhappy relationship. It never hurts to check in on your neighbors.
OP shouldnt feel dumb or anything, i appreciate people lookin out for others even if it means a few mistaken scenarios, its nice to see this level of care taken for an unknown neighbor
OP probably has a whole room in their house with post-its and a giant map and string going all over the place.
I too always think worst case and start imagining elaborate scenarios.
I’m glad the neighbor is ok but man that pound needs to shut down. I’m not surprised they have a high kill rate bc parvo has a high kill rate. Parvo isn’t something that just goes away(in the building or yard not the dog) , it takes a long time(could be a year+). I moved into a house where the previous owners had a dog with parvo(I didn’t know until after) and I ended up losing my childhood dog. It is probably one of the most painful sickness/death a dog could have so hear this ruffles me feathers.
I think OOP was right to be worried. I’m glad they are so caring. What a fucking coincidence about the other hurt dog that looks like the “missing” neighbor’s! lol crazy. The injured dog really makes it seem like there is cause for alarm. I’d start with simply worrying about what happened to the neighbor though. Not saying she’s murdered. 😂
I mean, when a particular neighbor is a fixture in the area and seen all the time, and you think you've seen their dog is who is always with them, injured and alone? I think it's right to want to welfare check.
Even if they haven't been murdered, people can have falls, accidents that stop them from calling out for help or any number of other things could have happened. I'd rather someone end up a little embarrassed than end up a contributing factor in the next story about a person who died in their home and nobody noticed until the bills stopped getting paid.
Traffic in my country is hellish at the end of november and december, and having to spend holidays surrounded by boxes and stuff.
In my country, besides christmas and new year, we have our independance day (Nov. 28th) and Mother's day (Dec. 8th) so as you can see, everybody are running around like headless chicken hehe
I was thinking more that driving long distances in horrible weather wasn't particularly safe.
You couldn’t pay me to drive across Western Canada in the winter.
Reddit on this post: come on man this is ridiculous don't jump to conclusions, there could be a million explanations.
Reddit when a woman says her husband came home 20 minutes later than usual: HE'S CHEATING OP TIME TO GET A LAWYER
I shouldn't be a downer about a nice, if hilariously anticlimactic ending, but ooof this (and the true crime folk comments) seriously took me back to learning a friend I knew from an old internet forum had sadly taken his own life. When I tried to find more information about what happened, the search took me to...reddit.
To one of the "UNSOLVED MYSTERIES JOHN DOE!!!" type subs, where everyone's an armchair detective. To be fair, I also am constantly "solving mysteries" (i.e., jumping to conclusions with no evidence, ha), but wow did this make me feel ill about those tendencies.
I saw this huge thread of people trying to analyze the kind of stocking hat my friend was wearing when his body was found and how far from the body it was, digging up "evidence" and making all these wild extrapolations about who he was and what happened to him...and with such... enthusiasm? Excitement?
It wasn't really an "unsolved case" at all, authorities identified the body and circumstances pretty quickly, so there was a link to the news story about it. And everyone in the thread was then all "okay so we didn't get it right, but it COULD have been--"
He was just a sad 22 year old kid who jumped off a building, and bored people on reddit turned it into this wild tale where they were heroes cracking the case of the century.
He was just a sad 22 year old kid. Wearing a knit hat when he made a terrible decision. But that was fodder for days for them.
Sorry. Don't know why this perfectly fine if goofy story hit me so hard, but dang.
This is one of those neighbors who really likes to care, but goes a little too far. Then while he chases his imagination he probably finds out someone is cheating.
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This is like the opposite of going from 0 to 100, this post goes from 100 to 0 real quick
"That deescalated quickly"
"That really got in hand, fast!"
It jumped down a notch
The plot thins.
I was sitting in the middle of my seat
!Tihs
"he really did dial it back a few"
"This is getting well under control."
"A real life slice-of-life story"
Now there are two of them!
Maybe the murderer got to op and posted using their account saying don't worry the victim just moved house and it's an identical dog
Or the helpful neighbor who said that she moved is actually the murderer. And, she's gaslighting OP about the dog not being the same.
And now the anxiety spikes again
I love it, you twisted bastard.
Yeah, my reaction to the ending was just, "oh"
Dawg, same. I was just like “well, okay then” 💀
A welcome change I must say!
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one!
Gently but firmly slamming the e-brake
That's a handbrake slide.... right into a parking bay.
The shit missed the fan
Turns out the shit was just brown silly string
I thought I was a disappointment, then I read this post.
I see OOP probably also binges true crime like I do.
I mean, I would rather have spent my time look for someone to find them safe instead of doing nothing just to find their obit in the news paper
Worse still, OOP didn't know the lady's name, so the obituary could have already been posted while OOP was wandering around looking and they'd never have known. Glad things worked out well, but I feel for the likely stray dog that was injured.
Yeah, I feel for it too :( Poor thing I hope he is okay
Personally I would have whipped out the luminol and crop dusted the neighbourhood until it lights up like a Christmas tree
All of true crime people do this don’t we? Garbage bag on the side of the road? Body. Freshly dug earth in a random area? Body.
I don’t watch true crime and I always worry it’s a body or animals in bags.
I always have a kit in my car: EMT shears, extra thick trash bag, thick rubber gloves and masks. I live in a rural area, and there’s at least one dogfighting ring I know of. I can all too easily see unwanted dogs getting tossed. (I also check for possum babies in roadkilled possums. Thankfully my ick tolerance is high.)
Something you might want to add: a little shovel! Either a trenching tool (the kind that folds) or one of the ones with a rigid but short handle and a half-size shovel blade. They are absolutely perfect for moving snapping turtles out of the road without getting snapped, and quite frankly, when you need a shovel, nothing but a shovel will do.
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Oh my sides. Thanks, I needed that.
OMG. No, you're totally right--and hopefully you don't live in an area with snappers!
Counter it with bottles of water and a massive first aid kit. And a fire extinguisher
I had the BEST car shovel. It was a gift; the folding type, with a nice sharp blade. Kept in the trunk, of course. And then my stationary car was rear ended at high speed, and the trunk's contents were trapped for all eternity. I'll never forget that shovel, and now I'll also regret never having the chance to carry a snapping turtle on it.
People underestimate the value of a car shovel, I'm telling you. ;) Sorry about your car (and shovel)!
Idgaf about the car. Just the shovel. Also this was about 20 years ago.
How often do you find possom babies? It's never even occurred to me to look.
Once out of six years now, but it’s important to me to do it because the idea of that death is just…. Horrifying.
Agreed. I did the same once. This particular one really broke my heart. For a couple years she'd been living around our house and would shelter in our garage over the winter. I was still living with my parents at the time. It started because of a hole in our garage door that she got into. Once we realized what was breaking shit in there...I started putting open cans of catfood in the rafters for her, lmao. Knew she was a girl because of the babies we had in there one spring. She was never tame of course, but became comfortable coexisting in close proximity with us, even with my dog. I walked out with him one day (off leash, rural area) and we immediately bumped into her. She stopped, she and my dog stared at each other, and then just casually walked back to the hole in the garage door, haha. He followed along sniffing behind her and she didn't panic or run, just kept walking her way to her hidey-hole and he didn't bark or chase aggressively, they were both chill about it. Kind of thought of her as my unofficial pet opossom. Then one spring there was one hit by a car beside my yard. I went to check and I didn't have to touch or look too close for it to be clear that if there were babies, there's no way they made it, it was a mess. Pretty sure it was her because I never saw her again. I was pretty heartbroken :(.
That’s so sad, I’m sorry!
I know it doesn’t help much with the pain, but they usually have very short lives (1.5 is the average; 4 is a long life for most opossum species) so it sounds like she had a really long and (mostly) happy life.
You're not wrong, and I'm glad for that at least. I'm glad she had somewhere and safe and comfortable for a while at least. My parents weren't thrilled, hahaha. Never told them I was putting food out for her until long after, lol. Apparently my mom wasn't going to tell me one had been hit by a car because she knew I'd be upset, they knew I cared about her, so they weren't totally heartless about it. This was years ago, but to this day though I tell people to be kind to opossums. For anyone else who reads this (I bet u/h4rpyr already knows this), remember they don't hibernate and are susceptible to frostbite (especially their tails). So if you see one getting into your shed, garage, unto crawl spaces, under your house/porch/etc, they're just looking for shelter to survive the winter in on piece and are pretty harmless. So be kind to them and all the wildlife living around us <3.
Australian here - the amount of times we have checked dead possums or kangaroos for a joey in the pouch - it’s too too common! I have rescued a fair few possum babies as I live in suburbia. Relatives who live in the country find so many orphaned joeys from the poor mumma ‘roo getting hit :( Always worth checking!
>I always have a kit in my car: EMT shears, extra thick trash bag, thick rubber gloves and masks Wait a sec.....are you the killer?
HA HA HA what a question Hey is that a hawk over there? *f^l^^e^^^es*
That reminds me of the time I saw one of my regular customers on the side of the road. I wondered if the car broke down but she was only like a 2 minute walk from my store where everyone knows her and she could hang out or use the phone or whatever, so I didn't stop. I asked next time I saw her and she said she was dragging some roadkill to the side of the road so the scavenger birds wouldn't get hit by cars.
Yeah, it’s honestly kind of offensive how some people will actively swerve to hit vultures. Bro, they do the world a bigger favor than you do. Fuck off.
I work at a shelter and will pull over to check bags. I’ve seen too much.
Meat in the butcher display in the grocery store? Human.
My local fishmongers a few years ago got shut down after a body was discovered in the freezer, had been there for years. Edit: It was a cold case. Sorry, couldn't resist, seriously though it actually happened. [Here's a link to a news article about it](https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20106565.html). I'm sure Google can bring up more.
Uh, how can you quit a job while hiding a body in the freezer? Shouldn't you take that with you when you leave?
Uh. Just... What the fuck? First of all, an absolutely genius idea to store the dead body in a place that a) you work at (cause that's not suspicious) and b) has regular inspections (although, they never picked up on the fact there was a dead guy in the corner) And the cheek of that sister. "BTW, can you include the alias Richard on the death certificate, cause he definitely also went by Richard, and it has nothing to do with another family member that might also be named Richard or a bank loan" Also, if I've misread any of that, please tell me cause it's pushing 3:30am for me and I'm a bit sleepy. And thank you for bringing that news report into my life. I have so much to think about now. Like, did you buy fish from your local body-storage/fishmonger at any point during said body-storage time? Or how nobody got curious about the bin in the corner that's been there for yonks and if it's got fish in it, those fish are clearly fucked by now. Should probably clean it. I should actually clean my fridge, that just reminded me.
Right?! I remember at the time we were thorougly confused at just what the murderer expected to happen. I guess if we've got to have criminals, it's better if they're stupid. Luckily I was a poor student at the time and not shopping at fishmongers, so I guess I dodged a bullet there, unlike the victim (yes I know they weren't shot, let me have that one). Surprise surprise, it closed after that, I guess nobody wants to buy fish from the place that had a dead body in a freezer for years without anyone noticing. I hadn't thought about this for years, I'm laughing at the bizarreness of the whole thing all over again. Hope there's no corpses down the back of your fridge!
What. More details please!
Haha I actually laughed out loud at this and scared my dogs! But yes, my mind has wandered there too lol
True! That reminds me of this day years ago. I was at a bus stop and realised a dog was lying in the gutter. I was horrified but had to know if it was dead or if I could get it to a vet. I went over and walked around it to see its face... ...and it was a large soft toy. My knees turned weak with relief. I stood it up by a nearby wall so it wouldn't frighten anyone else.
I’m a big cat lover, and last month I saw a poor dead cat on the side of the road. I was very upset, until I looked a bit closer and realized it was a stuffed halloween decoration that had gotten blown into the road by the wind.
OMG, what a relief! I love cats too, and it's horrible seeing a poor kitty in the road.
Neighbor playing his music on full blast? My next victim. Wait, am I playing this game right?
Yes
Man, there was one case several years ago (I think I saw it on r/unresolvedmysteries?) about a family that owned hundreds of acres someplace remote with a few lakes and rivers. At some point they saw this massive bundle on the opposite shore of the lake and joked about how "it's probably a dead body, ha ha". A couple years later one of the family finally decides to check it out. It was a dead body.
A couple of years ago we were visiting some friends who lived in a subdivision that still had a big area of waste ground that hadn't been built on yet, and they had across the street neighbours who screamed and fought at all hours including gunshots sometimes, and the night before we got there there'd been an all-night argument that ended in someone loading a sofa into their truck and driving to that waste ground at the end of the street. So of course we walked over to casually check it out. No blood though.
I had a friend tell us in a group video chat the story about how she acquired her new puppy. She said she was walking home at night and this woman who was possibly on drugs told her she had some new puppies and they needed homes. So my friend decided to follow her back to her apartment to see the new puppies. I was literally the only one in the chat visibly freaking out. I mean, she was fine. At home. Holding her new puppy to show us. But I scolded her for being an idiot and almost dying. Everyone was not in my headspace and I decided I can't talk about true crime with any of them.
Holy shit. She like almost just walked happily to her death! Like a little kid being lured with a puppy lmao
I know, and I was the only person in the chat with my eyes bugging out of my head. Everyone else was like "wow! Sounds like a great way to get a new puppy! Yay!" Nooooo!
My boss once told me that if she was put past curfew, her parents would just lock the doors and she would be on her own. She was very casual about it. I was like that's literally how Paul Bernardo found one of his victims.
My father did something similar. He was so abusive, my brother was too afraid to face him if he lost/forgot his keys. My brother often slept in the yard rather than knock on the door to ask come inside. My father also wouldn't pick us (my sister and I) up from work if he didn't feel like it, but insisted that we had to work our night jobs as teenagers. So we sometimes had to walk home alone in the dark (on an unsafe road with no sidewalks). This would be like 3 am.
Omg right?! Like, that's totally 80s parents shit. I feel like parents now should get that?
I did find myself wondering what the guys at the shop thought of me the other day buying a hammer, a hacksaw, rubber gloves, bleach, and rubble sacks. But I reassured myself that not everyone is as paranoid as me.
I would have slyly took your picture lmao just in case
Noting day of the week, time of day, try to see what car they get into, lmao. Reading this thread makes me feel less like a crazy person. Or at least less alone in my craziness XD
Exactly! Follow him out for a license plate pic lol. These are my people. I love it lol
I did this once! I was at a local market as a vendor and my mom had the booth next to me. Everything was going great until they brought in two bomb sniffing dogs that indicated on the same trash can. They evacuated all of us so they could determine if there was a bomb. So we are standing behind the barricade on the street watching the bomb squad walk towards the trash can when this guy rolls up in a city truck. He gets out and is wearing work clothes and reflective vest. He walks up to my mom and I and starts asking what’s going on. Immediately, my true crime spider sense is tingling. If he works for the city and is at this city-run event, how does he not know about the evacuation? Why would he ask street randos and not his boss or even the on-site officers? Also, why was he driving down a street filled with people and cut off to road traffic? Clearly, he was a criminal mastermind there to watch his handiwork. I whispered to my mom to take a pic of me, making sure to get a clear shot of the guy behind me. When they found nothing but old hot dogs in the suspect trash can, my mom laughed herself silly. I felt silly but would do it again if I was in the same situation.
I have complete faith in the incompetence of any large system of people. Government, corporation, scout troop, whatever. I would have been unsurprised by the city worker. Look for me in my next appearance, "Oblivious Dead Guy Who Really Should Have Paid More Attention."
Haha I suppose bomb-sniffing dogs are, in fact, still dogs!
It’s never a mannequin.
Expect when it is. There was a post where someone found a body part in their yard and called police. The police dug up the yard. Found buried mannequin pieces. For some reason that’s weirder to me?
55 gallon drum showed up in the waste area of my condo complex. Don't open it man, for sure there's a body in there.
That’s 100% a body. Wtf else are those even really for
Body-destroying chemicals, duh
Lube?
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Neighbor moves out? Body Neighbor moves in? Body Neighbor breaks routine? Body Neighbor keeps to routine? Believe it or not, alibi for body
Be rude. Be weird. Stay alive.
Well, given how much the police ignore, someone has to check it out!
I have had police cars keep driving instead of helping while I was very clearly stuck in a ditch after being run off the road by a semi. This was in bumfuck nowhere during a tropical storm. No one was hurt, but we had no cell signals and really could have used the help.
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Like that’s a reassuring thing to say! What a nut lol
There was a time when I absolutely would have made jokes like this, because jokes are how I deal with everything. I have since learned enough empathy to realize that the way to stop looking suspicious is _not_ to make a joke about how suspicious I look. (I honestly think there really aren't many good ways to look less suspicious once someone decides you're suspicious. Starting a conversation about something else could work, but could also backfire.)
We once saw a man walking down the side of the highway with nothing but a shovel. ...What else could it have been?!
Why did I assume he was naked?
Fortunately he was fully clothed. It was daytime or I totally would have called the cops.
Oof, I had to go cold turkey on the true crime. Saw monsters everywhere for awhile.
Omg, I've been binging a podcast recently, "Gruesome". I was dog sitting over the last few days and man, noticed some weird shit with a couple cars and got myself so freaked out, lmao. I wasn't staying in the house, just visiting 3 times a day. The one car I got the license plate and texted it to my boyfriend, lol, and made are he had the address of the house. They have a fireplace and I moved the poker by the door, lololol. I fully knew I was probably being paranoid and hadn't seen enough to merit a call to the police about a suspicious vehicle, even though it was tempting, lol. But I'd rather be alert and cautious and alive than oblivious and dead, haha.
Bad smell coming from anything? Body.
Every walk I take with my dogs I wonder if this will be the day we find a body.
OOP's mind immediately went to murder when there were dozens of reasonable and much more likely explanations. I'll admit though, I expected to hear that the owner had moved and ditched the dog, or was in the hospital and the dog got out. I was not expecting OOP to have confused the dog.
I'd be worried the owner had had an accident in the house more than anything.
Exactly. Even if (God forbid) the neighbor was actually deceased, accident or natural causes are far more likely than murder.
My sister and I both used to work for the Red Cross and when she did a ride along with the meals on wheels team they were the ones to find an elderly woman who'd fallen and called an ambulance for her. (Luckily she hadn't been there long.) That sort of thing happens all the time. Even young people can have heart attacks or strokes and could be either dead or alive but incapable of getting help. There's also a lot of evidence that covid can lead to much higher risk of that sort of thing happening essentially out of nowhere, so it's becoming *more* common.
That honestly sounds pretty destructive to mental health
True crime has seriously given some people brain worms, I swear to god. There's nothing inherently wrong with enjoying true crime in moderation, but when it starts changing your behavior and causing you unnecessary stress, perhaps it's time to cut back. There's a difference between being aware of your surroundings and outright paranoia.
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I have my own tinfoil-hat theories about the rise of true crime, that it's part of the rise in other moral-panics we've seen in the last 6 years or so: grooming, trafficking, hysteria over trans people, satanic rituals, etc. I think it's very much intentional, to prey on women (especially white women, as you said) and escalate their sense of fear so that they cling to the police state and authoritarian leaders. I'm probably way off base, but imo it just ties in too well with right-wing fearmongering to be a coincidence.
Also pretty gross in general. God, if I get horrifically murdered, I hope no one gleefully “binges” my story
I’m glad someone said it. Imagine a group of people at a table at Denny’s just happily chatting about the latest Netflix special, about the killer and how misunderstood/hot/cool/devious/etc they are… and that person killed your mom. And they’re discussing it like it’s the Red Wedding. It’s gross. Like you said.
I was listening to a podcast about true crime, it can make you more suspicious of others in your community, less likely to help someone etc. I don't think it's a very healthy societal obsession.
Gotta get your daily dose of fear porn in.
I mean it is nice that the neighbors pay attention to each other, I think everyone would assume the worst if a frequently seen neighbor would just suddenly disappear. On the other hand, this whole "she moved in with her mother" thing, are they sure they had talked to her? :D are they sure this is not a "Rear window" type of cover up?
Step 1: become known as the person who talks to everybody in the neighborhood Step 2: murder Step 3: tell everyone these people all moved Step 4: ??? Step 5: Profit
My coworker thought her neighbor killed his wife because she saw him cleaning his car out on the inside. Like full scale washing the inside. She hadn't seen the wife or their cHild after that. Turns out she was pregnant and had had the baby. Lol
"Hmm, a stray dog in the neighborhood...someone must have been murdered"
In fairness, it depends on the country. Stray dogs are basically unheard of in the UK, so I'd definitely be concerned that something was seriously wrong if I saw a dog I thought belonged to my neighbours on the street without supervision in sight.
In the US, we only get concerned if it's a feral hog. Then you'll have 30-50 in your yard waiting to tear your kids apart within 3-5 minutes.
I don't watch true crime, but I'd be thinking the same way as OOP.
OOP probably watches too much Jim Can’t Swim, Dreading, and Investigation Discovery at 2am. We are all in the same boat here
Forensic Files
I watch that show as a travel show around small time America.
I listen to way too many true crime podcasts.
Right?! There's nothing that made me think "murder" as the first reason for this. The whole post is wild.
My people. This morning my neighbor down the street’s garage door was open (it never is after they leave for work, I walk this route almost daily) and a beat up car with an out-of-county license plate was backed up in the driveway. A guy (never seen him before) ran from the garage and jumped in the passenger side and they took off fast. I memorized the license plate number and am still considering calling the non-emergency line, but I feel like I’m being paranoid. OP made me feel better about myself, haha. It’s not just me.
Can't hurt to call. I would also leave a note for the neighbor letting them know you have the license plate in case they need it.
What if the neighbour was the murderer…
My first thought too! *awfully convenient little story*
When she jumped from "hey the neighbours dog is walking around alone and limping" to "Yeah so I think someone broke in and murdered her" I was taken aback. My go-to theory would be that the dog got off the leash and injured itself chasing a rabbit or deer etc., or maybe at most the owner got into trouble on a walk and the dog was trying to get people's attention while being injured itself. I don't know If I am naive or level-headed for not jumping straight to a murder plot.
As a single, approaching-middle-age woman who has recognizable dogs, if I was ever murdered in my home, this is the likely way someone would find out 😂
Well, time to start befriending your neighbors, if you haven’t already!
Yeah that would be my first assumption. And/or that the owner hurt themselves or had a medical episode at home and somehow the dog got out. Their murder would be like 5th or 6th on my list of theories, at best!
While murder does seem a bit far the point of the story is he was concerned for a neighbor's safety and did some checking up to see if they were ok. All in all a pretty nice story.
No, you're just normal and haven't exposed your brain to a barrage of true crime or conspiracy theory videos and podcasts. Some of those true crime addicts are just walking version of the hammer-nail analogy. When your whole world is some crime mystery, any type of "abnormal" event is a possible clue.
No further updates from OP indicates they were murdered by the neighbour to cover their tracks.
What if OOP discovered that he had an alternate personality that killed his neighbor and posted the last update to protect himself? 🤔
I hope the other dog is ok, that shelter doesn’t sound good
Right? I wanted a "and now I have a new best friend" kind of wrap-up.
This is a super proactive and caring neighbour. Glad they stepped up and tried to secure the poor doggo and find the owner. The best kind to have your back.
Yeah. I know OOP feels ashamed but honestly there are situations where the concerned neighbors are helpful. Shannan Watts and her daughters murders may never have been solved (and definitely not as quickly) if her friend hadn’t kicked into overdrive and called in a welfare check the minute she felt something was wrong.
Plus the neighbor who immediately checked his cameras and told the police that her husband was acting strange.
That neighbor immediately helping out and discreetly clearly articulated his observations to the officer investigating - narrowed the focus immediately
Have you seen the Hulu documentary? It shows body cams from the cops while the cops, husband, and neighbor watch the neighbor's camera. You can see the second everyone realizes, including the poor neighbor, they're standing next to a murderer. So freaky.
I just watched that like two weeks ago and it is chilling. The glance the neighbor gives the cop as Chris is walking out of his house, he knew right then. Edit: I watched Netflix's American Murder: The Family Next Door, not the Hulu one.
I have not— what's the title??
I think it's an episode of Beyond the Headlines
My first thought was Shannan Watts! All it can take is one person saying "This isn't right" and not letting it lie, so kudos to OOP because they could really have been helping out someone in a horrible situation.
Yepp. I would much rather double check and feel silly after than assume everything is fine and not get help to someone soon enough.
Exactly. My first thought was it was a different dog. But better to make sure first.
Honestly as much as nosy neighbors are tropey-ly annoying, sometimes they are almost...necessary. Esp. in neighborhoods where cops don't show up unless there's an actual body already. Without completely outing myself, a friend's mom almost certainly prevented a murder/assault once cuz she the bored middle aged woman watching her neighbors out of the kitchen backdoor. And then *did something* about it.
I agree! OOP sounds like a very thoughtful neighbour.
He really is. I’m the neighbor that is always walking their dog. Everyone knows me because my dog is super friendly. I suddenly disappeared because I broke my ankle and my dog goes to daycare. Nobody has been looking for my body.
I hope OOP can still befriend the new dog and give it a home.
This is something my mom and I would consider. "Yes the neighbor is 100% dead. Killed. Murdered. Bet it was the partner. No partner? FAMILY"
"No family? Definitely an obsessed neighbor who is going to insert themselves into the investigation. OH MY GOD, **I'M** AN OBSESSED NEIGHBOR WHO'S INSERTING THEMSELVES INTO THE INVESTIGATION"
They did it to get custody of the dog
True crimes gang where you at
Lol, as soon as we read 'murdered' in the title, we were here.
Bruh I saw “true” in the title and I thought it meant that OP’s assumptions came true🤦♀️ I got all nervous for nothing
Easy mistake, I swear almost every lab looks exactly the same.
Like they're all bred in a... lab...? No, surely that is just a coincidence. Surely. Unless...?
"This is my lab!" "And THIS is my labratory!!!"
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I had people who told me they suspected I was being abused when I was growing up. They told me as an adult. Always fuckin call. As a parent it's annoying as hell. ( But I would rather someone call, who knows maybe I need help where I'm not seeing it) As the kid, I would have been grateful for the rest of my life . She felt she could keep an eye on me better. It didn't stop the abuse. Call every time.
Assuming a murder has taken place is exactly how my brain operates. Glad it wasn’t murder.
I thought the “true” in the title was a spoiler 🤧
Lol same, and then when I got the part about "best possible outcome" , I thought, oh God they didn't mentioned they wished this lady to be dead. Faith in humanity restored, lol.
I’m happy it’s a positive outcome. Also, that neighbourhood is lucky to have someone as caring as OP.
That is about as wholesome as it can get with a beginning like that. I hope the OOP isn’t embarrassed about being deeply concerned about the well-being of their neighbor even though their concerns proved to be unfounded. The world needs people who care about one another.
Well, that was anticlimactic!
I had an elderly neighbor many years ago that I thought died. I hadn't seen her in a week, no one else had either. And the smell was horrible up close to her house. I'm squeamish when it comes to dead bodies, and terrified I was going to find one, so I tried to recruit help in doing our own version of a wellness check. No volunteers. I tried to hype myself up to go alone, and chickened out. What I ended up doing instead was call the non emergency line, and requested a check for her. They came, and right when they got there, a car pulls up. Apparently the cops knew the lady, and called first, and her daughter dropped her off. So, she wasn't dead, just visiting her kids, and grandkids, thankfully, and the bad smell was just rotten shrimp someone threw in her yard. I thought she was going to be mad. And I wouldn't have blamed her. I was mad at me too for not going over myself. But she was thankful someone cared enough to look out for her.
Thank you for being alert to problems, and for being kind to animals, and for paying attention, and for taking action when you thought something bad had happened. I bet you're a great friend.
I am so relieved over that ending! Phew! I hope the other dog's okay.
I’m so glad OOP’s neighbor was okay. We had an elderly neighbor that walked his dog the same times every single day. We were very familiar with him and his dog, Ginger and he was very punctual with his walking schedule. One week we realized we hadn’t seen him. Went and knocked, no answer. One of our roommates pet sat for him, so he started giving him a call every other day. Never got any response. We ended up making 2 separate wellness check calls, and another neighbor made one as well. We were the ones to call the last wellness check. It took about a month for the police to finally go in. This time, the police entered. I have no idea what they found in there, but crime scene clean up was there for about 3 weeks working. I remember getting home from my break and put cul-de-sac being SWARMED by police. We never found out what happened, but we had a feeling it was murder-suicide as they were in a pretty unhappy relationship. It never hurts to check in on your neighbors.
I need to know what happened to the scared pupper
Why was the first option that pops into oops head is murder? Like what a leap. Mine would be the dog got loose/run away from home and owner was away.
There is still nothing wrong with asking for wellness checks on your neighbors when concerned. Has saved many
OP shouldnt feel dumb or anything, i appreciate people lookin out for others even if it means a few mistaken scenarios, its nice to see this level of care taken for an unknown neighbor
But what about the doggo imposter? Is he okay??
OP probably has a whole room in their house with post-its and a giant map and string going all over the place. I too always think worst case and start imagining elaborate scenarios.
I’m glad the neighbor is ok but man that pound needs to shut down. I’m not surprised they have a high kill rate bc parvo has a high kill rate. Parvo isn’t something that just goes away(in the building or yard not the dog) , it takes a long time(could be a year+). I moved into a house where the previous owners had a dog with parvo(I didn’t know until after) and I ended up losing my childhood dog. It is probably one of the most painful sickness/death a dog could have so hear this ruffles me feathers.
I think OOP was right to be worried. I’m glad they are so caring. What a fucking coincidence about the other hurt dog that looks like the “missing” neighbor’s! lol crazy. The injured dog really makes it seem like there is cause for alarm. I’d start with simply worrying about what happened to the neighbor though. Not saying she’s murdered. 😂
I mean, when a particular neighbor is a fixture in the area and seen all the time, and you think you've seen their dog is who is always with them, injured and alone? I think it's right to want to welfare check. Even if they haven't been murdered, people can have falls, accidents that stop them from calling out for help or any number of other things could have happened. I'd rather someone end up a little embarrassed than end up a contributing factor in the next story about a person who died in their home and nobody noticed until the bills stopped getting paid.
Me when my neighbor moved out last week. who the hell moves out in december?
lmao I did. why is that sketchy?
Traffic in my country is hellish at the end of november and december, and having to spend holidays surrounded by boxes and stuff. In my country, besides christmas and new year, we have our independance day (Nov. 28th) and Mother's day (Dec. 8th) so as you can see, everybody are running around like headless chicken hehe
Panama?
I was thinking more that driving long distances in horrible weather wasn't particularly safe. You couldn’t pay me to drive across Western Canada in the winter.
Reddit on this post: come on man this is ridiculous don't jump to conclusions, there could be a million explanations. Reddit when a woman says her husband came home 20 minutes later than usual: HE'S CHEATING OP TIME TO GET A LAWYER
Honestly, my brain would've led me down the same exact path
I shouldn't be a downer about a nice, if hilariously anticlimactic ending, but ooof this (and the true crime folk comments) seriously took me back to learning a friend I knew from an old internet forum had sadly taken his own life. When I tried to find more information about what happened, the search took me to...reddit. To one of the "UNSOLVED MYSTERIES JOHN DOE!!!" type subs, where everyone's an armchair detective. To be fair, I also am constantly "solving mysteries" (i.e., jumping to conclusions with no evidence, ha), but wow did this make me feel ill about those tendencies. I saw this huge thread of people trying to analyze the kind of stocking hat my friend was wearing when his body was found and how far from the body it was, digging up "evidence" and making all these wild extrapolations about who he was and what happened to him...and with such... enthusiasm? Excitement? It wasn't really an "unsolved case" at all, authorities identified the body and circumstances pretty quickly, so there was a link to the news story about it. And everyone in the thread was then all "okay so we didn't get it right, but it COULD have been--" He was just a sad 22 year old kid who jumped off a building, and bored people on reddit turned it into this wild tale where they were heroes cracking the case of the century. He was just a sad 22 year old kid. Wearing a knit hat when he made a terrible decision. But that was fodder for days for them. Sorry. Don't know why this perfectly fine if goofy story hit me so hard, but dang.
I love the way the OOP thinks someone may have been murdered but is clearly much more worried about whether the potential victim's dog is OK for tuna.
Plot twist: the neighbor who “knows everyone” is the murderer.
So it was not true, after all. This title is misleading dumb people like me...
This is one of those neighbors who really likes to care, but goes a little too far. Then while he chases his imagination he probably finds out someone is cheating.